View Full Version : Bringing back the high lighting of titles
James Bond
September 5th, 2013, 10:44 PM
So I found that feature extremely helpful, like, a lot helpful. It made posts much easier to see and very organized, with this system gone, I've clicked on the same old thread 2x thinking there was something new.
Is there any way VT can remove a different feature and bring back the high lighted title feature?
xXl0sth0peXx
September 5th, 2013, 10:52 PM
Unfortunately, per this announcement (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=190896), we had to disable that feature, for at least the time being. Hopefully, it will come back in the future, but for now, it can't.
You can always use the new posts (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/search.php?do=getnew) search, and base things off of whether you've replied or not (black dot on the leftmost side).
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September 5th, 2013, 10:56 PM
I'm confused, what has been changed?
xXl0sth0peXx
September 5th, 2013, 11:01 PM
I'm confused, what has been changed?
All threads are now marked read, even if you have not read them. And any threads you do read and then get new replies will be bold, however once you log out (or idle out after 30 minutes), they will all be marked read again.
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September 5th, 2013, 11:12 PM
I haven't even noticed a change :lol:
britishboy
September 6th, 2013, 01:28 AM
wouldnt it help if old members accounts was deleted?
James Bond
September 6th, 2013, 02:08 AM
wouldnt it help if old members accounts was deleted?
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Like, delete all the accounts that haven't been accessed for a year or so.
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September 6th, 2013, 02:13 AM
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Like, delete all the accounts that haven't been accessed for a year or so.
They can't do that because what if someone decides to come back but can't?
James Bond
September 6th, 2013, 02:14 AM
They can't do that because what if someone decides to come back but can't?
Chances are they wont come back after being inactive for a full year. If they do decide, they can just recreate another one.
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September 6th, 2013, 02:18 AM
Chances are they wont come back after being inactive for a full year. If they do decide, they can just recreate another one.
Even for a former admin? I think not ...
James Bond
September 6th, 2013, 02:22 AM
Even for a former admin? I think not ...
It's what the admins think, not what you think. So good thing your "I think not" isn't worth a whole lot.
It's a good idea deleting accounts that haven't been used once for a year or more, they'll likely never use it, and who knows maybe Mike will use that idea.
Emerald Dream
September 6th, 2013, 02:35 AM
It's what the admins think, not what you think. So good thing your "I think not" isn't worth a whole lot.
It's a good idea deleting accounts that haven't been used once for a year or more, they'll likely never use it, and who knows maybe Mike will use that idea.
So - for the person who registers when they are 14-15 years old and spends three years or so here at VT getting help and helping others, and making some friends along the way...
Suppose -
a) they decide to take an extended break from VT
b) something major happens in their life which forces them to not be able to be here
c) they go to college for a year or two and are extremely busy
or any number of reasons. Are you saying that someone should who is 18-20 years old (just as an example) should not be able to still have their account here? I'm pretty sure that each of the cases listed above has happened in the past. I don't think any member should have to lose their account. It would be pretty heartless trying to explain that to people.
I totally disagree with your idea.
Gumleaf
September 6th, 2013, 02:49 AM
For many years this feature didn't exist and in all honesty, it wasn't needed and made the site easy to follow. Admittingly, it was a little annoying if you only logged on briefly and didn't look at all the new posts/threads that you wanted to before logging out, but balancing things out I find the old way, the current way, to be much better. I found it annoying having all these threads highlighted when I had no intension of ever going in them.
Harley Quinn
September 6th, 2013, 05:14 AM
It's what the admins think, not what you think. So good thing your "I think not" isn't worth a whole lot.
You do realise everyone can post here, right? Which therefore means everyone is entitled to their opinion, you don't have to like it but what is with the attitude. No one appreciates it.
As for the read/not read thing, it doesn't bother me either way. It takes a lot of pressure off the server load when it's removed. I mean, I love having a cp full of threads, usually I do have at least 130 threads there and to be honest, seeing it empty is a really good feeling.
TheMatrix
September 6th, 2013, 07:55 AM
wouldnt it help if old members accounts was deleted?
The problem we were having was the memory usage. Highlighting threads used a HUGE amount of memory and simply wasn't feasible. But unused accounts take no memory, I assume*: they just take up disk space instead. If that was an issue, we would have seen problems long ago.
* I wouldn't know for sure, since I've never looked at vB's source code.
xXl0sth0peXx
September 6th, 2013, 09:27 AM
I can assure you we will not delete accounts. The ONLY way we would possibly delete accounts is if they are from the early 2000s and have no posts. Accounts with posts or banned users will never get deleted. It would help a little bit to do this, HOWEVER, it would help so little it's not really worth it.
Believe it or not, we do have users come back after more than a year. You'd be surprised.
James Bond
September 6th, 2013, 09:31 AM
You do realise everyone can post here, right? Which therefore means everyone is entitled to their opinion, you don't have to like it but what is with the attitude. No one appreciates it.
As for the read/not read thing, it doesn't bother me either way. It takes a lot of pressure off the server load when it's removed. I mean, I love having a cp full of threads, usually I do have at least 130 threads there and to be honest, seeing it empty is a really good feeling.
I know. But he stated it like his opinion was the only one that mattered when he said "I think not". That's what I had a problem with.
Magenta
September 6th, 2013, 09:47 AM
Believe it or not, we do have users come back after more than a year. You'd be surprised.
*waves* Yeah, um, I wouldn't be too happy if my account had been deleted just 'cause I had been gone for a year due to personal reasons. Thought I'd point out that it isn't all that unlikely for people to return.
Camazotz
September 6th, 2013, 10:18 AM
*waves* Yeah, um, I wouldn't be too happy if my account had been deleted just 'cause I had been gone for a year due to personal reasons. Thought I'd point out that it isn't all that unlikely for people to return.
:yes: I've had my share of downtime over the years. Deleting accounts has never been a good idea, and still has its issues. It's not worth it.
Jess
September 6th, 2013, 10:21 AM
wouldnt it help if old members accounts was deleted?
That would be a bad idea. Very bad.
ImCoolBeans
September 6th, 2013, 11:38 AM
Activated accounts will pretty much never be deleted. Before we were sure what the issue with the server exactly was I deleted a bunch of accounts which were never activated, had 0 posts and hadn't logged in since their first visit, from before 2012. I was hoping that it would fix the issue, but it did not.
As Thomas said, we're having an issue with our memory usage. Memory and disc space are two very different things. Memory stores actively running programs on the server and disc space stores information such as user profiles, posts, avatar photos, etc. We have plenty of space, so deleting accounts (like I did) didn't really end up doing anything but throwing a few bites disc space back at us, which will likely be used again within the next week between posts, new users and photos being uploaded to the site.
The reason why I disabled this feature is because it's a program that is constantly running for each user and as the site grows it continues to take up more memory to run. We now have over 2,000,000 posts which is why it uses so much memory. I'd like to say that it won't be gone forever, but I can't say for sure right now. I personally like this feature a lot and it's also an inconvenience for myself, along with the rest of the staff too, so if possible I'd like to get it back up and running, but we have to play it by ear and see how things go in the coming days/weeks.
Allain1996
September 6th, 2013, 02:42 PM
Activated accounts will pretty much never be deleted.....I deleted a bunch of accounts which were never activated, had 0 posts and hadn't logged in since their first visit, from before 2012.
Just out of curiosity, Mike, why aren't "Banned" user's accounts deleted after they've been given fair time to appeal their ban?
There seems to be so many people that were dumb and got themselves banned and now have completely idle accounts that are literally just sitting and taking up space that it seems to me removing those old dead accounts would free up a lot of disc space, even if it isn't needed currently.
Jess
September 6th, 2013, 02:44 PM
Just out of curiosity, Mike, why aren't "Banned" user's accounts deleted after they've been given fair time to appeal their ban?
There seems to be so many people that were dumb and got themselves banned and now have completely idle accounts that are literally just sitting and taking up space that it seems to me removing those old dead accounts would free up a lot of disc space, even if it isn't needed currently.
They might have made a lot of posts and if those get deleted it'll create a lot of holes in threads and all that
Allain1996
September 6th, 2013, 02:48 PM
They might have made a lot of posts and if those get deleted it'll create a lot of holes in threads and all that
I get that, but what about the idiots that only made an account to solicit people to "cam" or "picture trade" with and therefore only had like 10 posts before their real goal on the site was reported and they were banned?
DerBear
September 6th, 2013, 02:58 PM
I get that, but what about the idiots that only made an account to solicit people to "cam" or "picture trade" with and therefore only had like 10 posts before their real goal on the site was reported and they were banned?
We can't delete them for security reasons as if we delete them then we don't have their information stored any more so we can't catch duplicate accounts made by these people.
Plus as Mike said, deleting those accounts didn't really free up much space at all.
xXl0sth0peXx
September 6th, 2013, 04:10 PM
Just out of curiosity, Mike, why aren't "Banned" user's accounts deleted after they've been given fair time to appeal their ban?
There seems to be so many people that were dumb and got themselves banned and now have completely idle accounts that are literally just sitting and taking up space that it seems to me removing those old dead accounts would free up a lot of disc space, even if it isn't needed currently.
The Last of Us summed this up nicely. We will have no record of their IP address(es), for dupe purposes, and for the sake of bots, their IPs or emails they use, to stop other bots from using similar emails. Upfront, it does make sense to get rid of banned users or bots, but we need the record of them.
Allain1996
September 6th, 2013, 04:40 PM
The Last of Us summed this up nicely. We will have no record of their IP address(es), for dupe purposes, and for the sake of bots, their IPs or emails they use, to stop other bots from using similar emails. Upfront, it does make sense to get rid of banned users or bots, but we need the record of them.
Now that does make perfect sense.
A lot of banned people probably try to make another account, so having a record of their previous info. makes sense.
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