Girls having the wrong idea.

[Derryck]

Why do meany of you girls find it fun to exploit a guy's feelings for u and make him your slave?! That's not building a strong relationship, that's using someone! Do u know how much u could hurt someone doing that?! What happens when he finds out that u don't like him for him?! U R manipulating another human being! Making them think that there feelings are returned when you are just making them your god damn puppet, that's worse than rejection! I want this to be answered by girls who think they have a good excuse to why this is funny! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Body odah Man]

Why do meany of you girls find it fun to exploit a guy's feelings for u and make him your slave?! That's not building a strong relationship, that's using someone! Do u know how much u could hurt someone doing that?! What happens when he finds out that u don't like him for him?! U R manipulating another human being! Making them think that there feelings are returned when you are just making them your god damn puppet, that's worse than rejection! I want this to be answered by girls who think they have a good excuse to why this is funny! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hear you brother. I've had that happen to me ALOTT!! Hell it's happening to me right now and I'm OK with it :(
Girls are just REALLY REALLY good at manipulating your soul and being and dominating you very very subtly. It's awful and I support this thread

[Harley Quinn]

I think you're forgetting that boys also do the same thing back to girls, it isn't a one way street. Both genders are pretty bad when it comes to things like this.

[vLiinx]

Why do meany of you girls find it fun to exploit a guy's feelings for u and make him your slave?! That's not building a strong relationship, that's using someone! Do u know how much u could hurt someone doing that?! What happens when he finds out that u don't like him for him?! U R manipulating another human being! Making them think that there feelings are returned when you are just making them your god damn puppet, that's worse than rejection! I want this to be answered by girls who think they have a good excuse to why this is funny! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Who says its a bad thing? It just shows you they aren't the one for you. I guess it depends on how much you actually care for the person.
But guys do it a lot as well.

[Body odah Man]

I think you're forgetting that boys also do the same thing back to girls, it isn't a one way street. Both genders are pretty bad when it comes to things like this.

True only when boys do it they're messed up and rlly mean. However many girls that are quite nice and sweet are manipulative (a girl in my Ancient Greek class has turned me into her dog/slave completely) and yet she's super nice. also girls just seem to be far better at it than guys

[TommyTom]

It is wrong and it is as wrong when guys do it... end of!

[Special K]

I think you're forgetting that boys also do the same thing back to girls, it isn't a one way street. Both genders are pretty bad when it comes to things like this.


This...

And she can only do to you what you allow her to. If she is doing you wrong confront her about it. If it continues then leave her. Don't stay around and be emotionally manipulated for the sake of having a chick.

[teen.jpg]

I'm pretty sure it's a stretch to say "many girls" do that, as it is to say many guys do.

[Luminous]

Not every girl does that. And some guys do it too. It's not fair to blame every girl when only a percentage of us will actually do something like that. I am not a part of that percentage and never will be.

[SkootuGurl]

True only when boys do it they're messed up and rlly mean. However many girls that are quite nice and sweet are manipulative (a girl in my Ancient Greek class has turned me into her dog/slave completely) and yet she's super nice. also girls just seem to be far better at it than guys

There are girls who behave this way without realizing it's 'bad' behaviour because as a society we still haven't abandoned the gender stereotypes that have been with us for centuries.

Most people don't even think twice about the fact that it's normal for girls to play with dolls, and for boys to play with soldiers, but the message that gets indoctrinated along with these toys is that males can use force to get what they want and girls can just get away with being pretty. As we get older we start to think for ourselves and can get over this, but it takes some people longer than others.

[teen.jpg]

Not every girl does that. And some guys do it too. It's not fair to blame every girl when only a percentage of us will actually do something like that. I am not a part of that percentage and never will be.

For obvious reasons seeing as though this post mentions guys :P

[James Bond]

Some girls are like that, in fact, some people are like that, guy or girl.

When you're young, a relationship isn't really supposed to be serious, so don't get too hung up over different relationship issues. Young love is basically trial and error before you go off into real relationships which may go somewhere like marriage.

[CharlieHorse]

I think a person's treatment to someone else isn't affected by gender. That's stereotyping. It depends on the individual and their values, morals, and personality.

But hey, i wouldn't mind being a girl's slave for a bit ;)

[Body odah Man]

I think a person's treatment to someone else isn't affected by gender. That's stereotyping. It depends on the individual and their values, morals, and personality.

But hey, i wouldn't mind being a girl's slave for a bit ;)

By slave we're not referring to getting special, awesome privileges. You get used as a servant/slave because the girl (or guy) is lazy, abusive, dominating, etc.

[Austins]

Well honestly, it is partly your fault that you are being pushed around, not just the female who did this. If you do not have enough back bone or self respect to set up boundaries for anyone you will always be walked on. Self acceptance is key to not being used.

[Body odah Man]

Well honestly, it is partly your fault that you are being pushed around, not just the female who did this. If you do not have enough back bone or self respect to set up boundaries for anyone you will always be walked on. Self acceptance is key to not being used.

I have self acceptance (pretty sure the OP does as well) but if you like a girl she can just tell you to do something and you'll do it without thinking. Think thats what he's referring to. That and how those girls do it more to play with you than out of respect for your feelings for them.

[Austins]

I have self acceptance (pretty sure the OP does as well) but if you like a girl she can just tell you to do something and you'll do it without thinking. Think thats what he's referring to. That and how those girls do it more to play with you than out of respect for your feelings for them.

Well sure you will do it, if you are that weak to female charm o.o
I will do when I want how I want. It's quite easy to tell if a girl wants to be more than friends with you, just by asking them out

[Synyster Shadows]

People are like this, regardless of gender. But not everyone is like that. If they control you, that just means that they don't deserve you. A healthy relationship should definitely be fair for both people with no controlling of one another.

[CharlieHorse]

By slave we're not referring to getting special, awesome privileges. You get used as a servant/slave because the girl (or guy) is lazy, abusive, dominating, etc.

yeah i know what you mean...

... but dyaknow what i mean? :D


again it honestly depends on the person. It's in a girl's nature to test their guy's loyalties to them by seeing how much they'll do for them. It's a good instinct because it promotes a better relationship in a way. It makes her trust you.
But if it comes to too much, then talk to her. Sit down with her and have a serious talk about it.

[Cygnus]

I believe guys do that more to girls than the other way around. But yes, there are people that play around with others, and those people are assholes.

[MoonMan]

This is why you should've stopped being a pussy and asked the girl out before you started running errands for her. If she would've said no then you could've just moved on instead of slaving away because you didn't know if she liked you back or not.

[Poisonberry]

Why do meany of you girls find it fun to exploit a guy's feelings for u and make him your slave?! That's not building a strong relationship, that's using someone! Do u know how much u could hurt someone doing that?! What happens when he finds out that u don't like him for him?! U R manipulating another human being! Making them think that there feelings are returned when you are just making them your god damn puppet, that's worse than rejection! I want this to be answered by girls who think they have a good excuse to why this is funny! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Are you talking about a specific incident or just in general?

In some ways what you're describing is the normal "negotiation" that occurs in a relationship. If a guy really likes me and wants to take me shopping and I reciprocate by giving him sex that's each of us getting what we want. Did I make him my slave?

I've never had a relationship with someone I wasn't genuinely interested in, at least at the time, so I don't know if your part about them finding out I don't like them for them applies or not. I'm not sure I understand how any of it is funny.

You do seem to have some issues with girls, I think a closer examination of why that is and where it comes from would probably benefit you. Perhaps you just have some skewed expectations.

[Body odah Man]

Are you talking about a specific incident or just in general?

In some ways what you're describing is the normal "negotiation" that occurs in a relationship. If a guy really likes me and wants to take me shopping and I reciprocate by giving him sex that's each of us getting what we want. Did I make him my slave?

I've never had a relationship with someone I wasn't genuinely interested in, at least at the time, so I don't know if your part about them finding out I don't like them for them applies or not. I'm not sure I understand how any of it is funny.

You do seem to have some issues with girls, I think a closer examination of why that is and where it comes from would probably benefit you. Perhaps you just have some skewed expectations.

The thing about negotiations is you get something in return i.e. he does shopping, he gets sex. HOWEVER what Derryck and me are referring too is girls that make you do stuff for them by manipulating you but DON'T give anything back in return. That's not negotiating.

[Derryck]

Are you talking about a specific incident or just in general?

In some ways what you're describing is the normal "negotiation" that occurs in a relationship. If a guy really likes me and wants to take me shopping and I reciprocate by giving him sex that's each of us getting what we want. Did I make him my slave?

I've never had a relationship with someone I wasn't genuinely interested in, at least at the time, so I don't know if your part about them finding out I don't like them for them applies or not. I'm not sure I understand how any of it is funny.

You do seem to have some issues with girls, I think a closer examination of why that is and where it comes from would probably benefit you. Perhaps you just have some skewed expectations.

At the time I was mad because this subject came up in chat, this is where all my anger went. :(

[Poisonberry]

The thing about negotiations is you get something in return i.e. he does shopping, he gets sex. HOWEVER what Derryck and me are referring too is girls that make you do stuff for them by manipulating you but DON'T give anything back in return. That's not negotiating.

Well, unless she's holding a gun to your head you ARE getting something. You're getting the pleasure of her company and perhaps the promise of some future reward. The bottom line is you MUST be getting something out of it or you're admitting you're just her little puppet that she can make to anything.

I'll admit I've had guys in this kind of situation before. It's amusing for a while but eventually it gets boring and you have to scrape them off the bottom of your shoe. :)

[Cece14]

I have never treated a guy that way! No one should!

[Derryck]

I have never treated a guy that way! No one should!

oh, we're going to get along quite nicely :cool:

[Cece14]

Really??:) Thats good then:P

[Derryck]

Well, unless she's holding a gun to your head you ARE getting something. You're getting the pleasure of her company and perhaps the promise of some future reward. The bottom line is you MUST be getting something out of it or you're admitting you're just her little puppet that she can make to anything.

I'll admit I've had guys in this kind of situation before. It's amusing for a while but eventually it gets boring and you have to scrape them off the bottom of your shoe. :)

Do u care about the guys feelings? Do u like to see him heartbroken?!

[Poisonberry]

Do u care about the guys feelings? Do u like to see him heartbroken?!

Other people are responsible for their feelings, I can't be responsible for something I can't control. I also never break any promises. If they believe they're going to get something out of the relationship that I haven't promised that's not my fault either.

The thing here is that I and no one I know of goes looking for these guys they find me, and often won't take a hint that they won't be getting anything. They seem to think if they just try harder it's going to work, but I don't do anything to encourage that. It's really not my fault if they're deluded.

[Body odah Man]

Other people are responsible for their feelings, I can't be responsible for something I can't control. I also never break any promises. If they believe they're going to get something out of the relationship that I haven't promised that's not my fault either.

The thing here is that I and no one I know of goes looking for these guys they find me, and often won't take a hint that they won't be getting anything. They seem to think if they just try harder it's going to work, but I don't do anything to encourage that. It's really not my fault if they're deluded.

There's truth in that. Some people are just SOO deluded and dense that sometimes they have to face utter humiliation to realize they're deluded and dense. It can't be fun for a girl I suppose

[Poisonberry]

There's truth in that. Some people are just SOO deluded and dense that sometimes they have to face utter humiliation to realize they're deluded and dense. It can't be fun for a girl I suppose

Hard to tell how sarcastic you're being, so I'll try again.

Maybe turn it around and imagine you're the object of such unrequited affection. Turning them down does no good, being distant and somewhat cold does no good. Now what? Ok, you want to be my pet, fetch! Oh my God he did it. Well let's make it a little harder. OMG, he did that too. On and on and on.

I really don't think it's my responsibility, beyond letting a guy know I have no interest, to take care of his feelings. If he wants to drive himself to "utter humiliation" it's his business and maybe he'll learn, or maybe not. Either way, not my problem.

[The Trendy Wolf]

I think you're forgetting that boys also do the same thing back to girls, it isn't a one way street. Both genders are pretty bad when it comes to things like this.

Much agreed! :yes:

[Body odah Man]

Hard to tell how sarcastic you're being, so I'll try again.

Maybe turn it around and imagine you're the object of such unrequited affection. Turning them down does no good, being distant and somewhat cold does no good. Now what? Ok, you want to be my pet, fetch! Oh my God he did it. Well let's make it a little harder. OMG, he did that too. On and on and on.

I really don't think it's my responsibility, beyond letting a guy know I have no interest, to take care of his feelings. If he wants to drive himself to "utter humiliation" it's his business and maybe he'll learn, or maybe not. Either way, not my problem.

I don't use Sarcasm damnit. What I say I mean so please stop giving meaning to my words that they don't have. What I said was I agreed with you and could see your point not that I was trying to mock you.

[LouBerry]

Why do meany of you girls find it fun to exploit a guy's feelings for u and make him your slave?! That's not building a strong relationship, that's using someone! Do u know how much u could hurt someone doing that?! What happens when he finds out that u don't like him for him?! U R manipulating another human being! Making them think that there feelings are returned when you are just making them your god damn puppet, that's worse than rejection! I want this to be answered by girls who think they have a good excuse to why this is funny! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Okay, this is just dumb. Having a bad experience with a girl does not mean that we are all just like her. That would be like me getting my heart broken by some guy and complaining about how all men are sleazy assholes.

Also, we don't want to date every guy we meet. Get this, sometimes, we just want to be friends. Crazy right? So yeah, maybe this girl did want you to do things for her and like her, but maybe she just wants you to do it because you're friends, not because you want to date her.

Sometimes, it's nice to just hang around guy friends. It's easier to be yourself than with girls, because guys are less nit-picky about shit. It's not nessicarily the girls fault that you developed feelings for her that she didn't return.

[Derryck]

Okay, this is just dumb. Having a bad experience with a girl does not mean that we are all just like her. That would be like me getting my heart broken by some guy and complaining about how all men are sleazy assholes.

Also, we don't want to date every guy we meet. Get this, sometimes, we just want to be friends. Crazy right? So yeah, maybe this girl did want you to do things for her and like her, but maybe she just wants you to do it because you're friends, not because you want to date her.

Sometimes, it's nice to just hang around guy friends. It's easier to be yourself than with girls, because guys are less nit-picky about shit. It's not nessicarily the girls fault that you developed feelings for her that she didn't return.

please understand a couple things 1.) I don't usually think like this, the subject came up in chat and I spattered it on the the forum and it became this post. And 2.) I mean when a girl uses her looks and charm to make guys do whatever you want. My argument is that when you do this, you don't rlly care about him do you. There's a fine line between following the gender roles and getting used. when the guy figures this out, ur gonna hav a hurt soul on ur hands.

[Body odah Man]

@^
I agree

[Body odah Man]

any one else going to comment?

[Derryck]

any one else going to comment?

Yes :P

[Body odah Man]

I kindof meant other girls. I want an explanation or reasoning at the least from one person

[SkootuGurl]

There are a ton of reasons. Some people do it because it's what their friends do, some people do it because they enjoy having power over others, some people do it simply because they're malicious.

Try looking up schadenfreude

[Saint of Sinners]

Actually, most girls I've met don't actually do that. It's not fair to assume a few black sheep represent most girls.

[Miri]

Everyone is different, and both girls and guys do stuff like this. It's just the way it is, and some people tolerate it, and others don't. Wether you let yourself be controlled or not is up to you.

Then again, you can't let a few bad experiences represent the entire female population. Guys don't always make the best boyfriends either.

Everyone does things for different reasons. Maybe they're insecure, maybe their parents taught them or they learned from friends, or maybe they don't even realize that they're doing it.

[PinkFloyd]

You can't make such huge accusations. Not every girl does that. There are like 4 or 5 in my school that I can think of right now.

[Body odah Man]

Fair enough I suppose. And I suppose your reasoning is right Miri

any1 else gunna post?

[sqishy]

It goes both ways. Both ways are wrong.

[Derryck]

It goes both ways. Both ways are wrong.

You speak in riddles. :cool:

[sqishy]

You speak in riddles. :cool:

Boys can be unfair on girls and girls can be unfair on boys. I see both as wrong, not good.

[Body odah Man]

There is some truth in that.