View Full Version : Best Long Range Rifles (Sniper,DM, Battle?)
Twilly F. Sniper
August 27th, 2013, 04:03 PM
I see all these best guns threads, and I thought what are you guys' favorite longer range rifles? I've been an M14 fan. More specifically one of the more recent adaptations, the Mk 14 EBR. It has a sufficient range, (about the range of an M40, not any A3's or A5's though)
It weighs about 9 lbs, and is quite modular. It's also got decent firepower using 7.62 NATO ammunition.
thatcountrykid
August 27th, 2013, 09:53 PM
The m14 or the remington 700 or the m4oa3
EddietheZombie
August 27th, 2013, 10:25 PM
Dragonov with quick Ak-47 conversion, incase you get into a tight spot.
Professional Russian
August 28th, 2013, 08:03 AM
The McMillan TAC-338 for long range. The 338 lapua is good for around 1.5-2 miles. The RSASS(Remington Semi Automatic Sniper System) its good for about 800 yards with the 7.62 NATO cartridge.
Sir Suomi
August 28th, 2013, 09:54 PM
I'll stay American, and say the M40's, especially the current A5. It's built off an already outstanding rifle, the Remington 700, and they add little components here and there, and make it a damn good rifle.
And just for the hell of it, just to show size matters, I'd like to shoot the .950 JDJ. The largest centerfire rifle in existence, it's $40 bucks each time you fire. But I'd say it'd be worth every penny.
The Flash
August 29th, 2013, 08:41 AM
The m14 or the remington 700 or the m4oa3
Agreed.
Strongly agree with the Rem 700
Twilly F. Sniper
August 31st, 2013, 07:47 AM
The m14 or the remington 700 or the m4oa3
I never really liked the R700. M40a3/Mk14 EBR (implying you mean this variant) is a little difficult.
M400a3 has better range and firepower.
Mk14 EBR is lighter, has a higher mag cap, and uses a sniper round in a DMR.
M14 wins.
Professional Russian
August 31st, 2013, 08:15 AM
I never really liked the R700. M40a3/Mk14 EBR (implying you mean this variant) is a little difficult.
M400a3 has better range and firepower.
Mk14 EBR is lighter, has a higher mag cap, and uses a sniper round in a DMR.
M14 wins.
You can't say any Maquette had more range or power any of the others. They were all the same caliber, 7.62X51mm
Twilly F. Sniper
August 31st, 2013, 08:50 AM
You can't say any Maquette had more range or power any of the others. They were all the same caliber, 7.62X51mm
Longer barrel? Supporting larger magnification scopes?
Professional Russian
August 31st, 2013, 08:54 AM
Longer barrel? Supporting larger magnification scopes?
That longer barrel don't mean dick. All it does is give some mor velocity against wind. Magnification isn't a factor . The marines have always used the basically the same scope.
Twilly F. Sniper
August 31st, 2013, 09:17 AM
That longer barrel don't mean dick. All it does is give some mor velocity against wind. Magnification isn't a factor . The marines have always used the basically the same scope.
And you are QUITE incorrect. That's pretty much saying you can make the longest shot in history with a rifle without any optics? It SIGNIFICANTLY changes. (I thought you actually knew more about guns than this, pretty saddening you seem not to.) But the first part actually is correct, a M4 and an Mk14 fired with the same optics both semi-auto could go the exact same distance. But as said, it supports larger magnifications, and that's why you don't see snipers using M4 rifles.
Professional Russian
August 31st, 2013, 09:42 AM
And you are QUITE incorrect. That's pretty much saying you can make the longest shot in history with a rifle without any optics? It SIGNIFICANTLY changes. (I thought you actually knew more about guns than this, pretty saddening you seem not to.) But the first part actually is correct, a M4 and an Mk14 fired with the same optics both semi-auto could go the exact same distance. But as said, it supports larger magnifications, and that's why you don't see snipers using M4 rifles.
Obviously you didn't read my post. The marines have used the same leupold scope. And no an M4 won't go as far as an M14. The M4 is 5.56 as to where the M14/M21 is 7.62. The M14 has more range than the M4 just to let you know and more knock down power too
Twilly F. Sniper
August 31st, 2013, 10:14 AM
Obviously you didn't read my post. The marines have used the same leupold scope. And no an M4 won't go as far as an M14. The M4 is 5.56 as to where the M14/M21 is 7.62. The M14 has more range than the M4 just to let you know and more knock down power too
Nope. Not without *hm hm* optics. WITHOUT optics, both of they're effective ranges are about 500 yards. But M14's main difference is a higher ACCURACY at those ranges due to barrel length, and also the fact that holds a larger magnnification however. But in that case, range is nearly the same when fired at the same rate because the bullet's both are made with similar aerodynamics, but one is only a little smaller so it fits easier in the magazine, is cheaper, but has less firepwer singularly. It only wouldn't there because I know that nobody uses an M4 in semi-auto because it's pointless. an M14 has much more stopping power, because it has a larger round.
The bullet really doesn't make a difference there at all. the differences in range are because of longer barrels (lengthening their accurate but not effective range), and in fire rates, because the M4 was specifically designed (originally, M16) for HIGHER fire rates, also lowering it's accuracy, but technically not it's effective range.
Professional Russian
September 1st, 2013, 06:28 AM
Nope. Not without *hm hm* optics. WITHOUT optics, both of they're effective ranges are about 500 yards. But M14's main difference is a higher ACCURACY at those ranges due to barrel length, and also the fact that holds a larger magnnification however. But in that case, range is nearly the same when fired at the same rate because the bullet's both are made with similar aerodynamics, but one is only a little smaller so it fits easier in the magazine, is cheaper, but has less firepwer singularly. It only wouldn't there because I know that nobody uses an M4 in semi-auto because it's pointless. an M14 has much more stopping power, because it has a larger round.
The bullet really doesn't make a difference there at all. the differences in range are because of longer barrels (lengthening their accurate but not effective range), and in fire rates, because the M4 was specifically designed (originally, M16) for HIGHER fire rates, also lowering it's accuracy, but technically not it's effective range.
The M14 has a long range than the M4 because its a bigger more powerful round. The 5.56 is good to 500 yards optics or not. The M14 is good to 800 optics or not. Optics just make the object your shooting at bigger. It has nothing to do with effective range. If you it does you either don't much about guns or play to much call of duty.
Harry Smith
September 1st, 2013, 06:38 AM
As said above you can put a 16x sight on .22 snub nose revolver- it doesn't mean that it will have a longer range. It doesn't matter what optics you put on top of the gun it's about the gun itself
Twilly F. Sniper
September 1st, 2013, 07:01 AM
The M14 has a long range than the M4 because its a bigger more powerful round. The 5.56 is good to 500 yards optics or not. The M14 is good to 800 optics or not. Optics just make the object your shooting at bigger. It has nothing to do with effective range. If you it does you either don't much about guns or play to much call of duty.
I was saying actually as said here that it becomes more effective at that long of a range, due to what you said, but it's accuracy at the gun's original potential range is heightened due to the effect stated. You seem to have slightly misinterpreted what I said and ironically retorted my point in the least complex terms possible. Well the round does have some contribution to the range but not because of it's firepower. Which would have a lengthier range a .308 or a .44 magnum? I would say .308 because the round is longer and much more aerodynamic. What you say is partially correct it's just that caliber doesn't influence range. Length does however. But you are still wrong about barrel length has no influence on range. Just using simple logic, an M14 with a CQC barrel would not have the same range as one with a heavier and lengthier barrel.
So apparently we both look like COD players if we don't think before we type.
Professional Russian
September 1st, 2013, 08:40 AM
308 has a lot more powder than a 44. And again all barrel length does is ad more velocity to help against the wind. that's all it does. Nothing more nothing less.
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