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Camazotz
August 26th, 2013, 07:02 PM
Hello VT,

I’d like to share a story with you that, perhaps, some of you can relate with, and hopefully you leave here with a feeling of confidence and understanding.

First you should know about me: I grew up in a Roman Catholic household- my mom’s parents were from Italy and my dad’s parents were from the Philippines (if you didn’t know, those countries are among the most Catholic countries in the world). I went to mass practically every Sunday of my childhood, I went through CCD (basically a Sunday school to learn about God and the Church), and I grew up in a town that was primarily Christian.

Around 8th grade (14 years old), I started learning about atheism from friends and the internet. I began questioning what I was taught and what my beliefs were. I was shaky though, as most agnostics/atheists are when they first start questioning their faith. If you’ve never been through this experience, just know that it’s a scary thought that things that you’ve been taught by your parents and Church might be lies (such as an afterlife). I learned a lot about myself during this time trying to come to terms with what I did/didn’t believe in. But I wasn’t comfortable with telling anyone yet because I was afraid of how people would react to the news.

Over the next several months, I conferred with my atheist friends to see how they dealt with this period of their life- were they bullied? How did their parents react? Did they lose any friends? How were they treated? Ultimately, I decided to not to tell my family- not yet, at least. I didn’t think they were ready to hear that kind of news. I read stories of kids that were practically disowned by their parents. I wasn’t ready for that kind of risk.

Fast-forward several months: it was time for me to sign up for Confirmation, the final rite in the Catholic religion to becoming “a full-fledged Catholic.” Most of my friends were going through it, adults that I grew up with were in charge of the program, and it seemed like a rite of passage. I was required to write an essay on why I wanted to continue with my Catholic education and why I wanted continue with my future as a part of the Catholic Church. I pondered the question for weeks, and the pressure to finish by the deadline was on. I began writing it but it just didn't feel right. I was lying to the church, my parents, and most importantly, to myself.

You know, Matt, I read everything you post and am consistently impressed and amazed at how thoughtful, mature and introspective you are, and I'm not just blowing smoke here at you.

Religion aside, whatever your parents have done with you has resulted in a truly exceptional person. Even though they might be surprised or disappointed by your choice, somehow I think they will also tolerate your decision for these reasons.

Good luck, I suspect it will go better than you think.

Sam

I typed an essay (first draft found here (”http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50180”)) of why I was an atheist and gave it to my parents. With the support of my friends (including IAmSam from VT), I gathered the courage to give them the essay. They talked it over the next couple of days and then we all talked together. They tried to understand my stance, and although they didn’t agree with me, they told me they would always love and support me, no matter what. However, they wanted me to try and talk with people at the Church to try to convince me to try going through the Confirmation process; it turned out to be a failure (I was already an atheist), so we decided to leave it alone, and all has been well since.

Fin.
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Now I’d like to give some advice on dealing with atheism.

If you’re an atheist… Know that there are plenty of people out there just like you.

If you ever feel alone or isolated, don’t hesitate to form bonds with other atheists around the world. According to recent polls (http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotryprejudice/a/AtheitsHated.htm), atheists are the least trusted minority in America. There is a stigma that atheists are stuck-up, arrogant “know-it-alls”. (The stereotypes come from angsty teenagers that don’t know how to behave in public). Just treat everyone with respect, be careful what you say, and look up more tips (”http://www.weareatheism.com/resources/10-5-tips-for-coming-out/”) on how to act.

If you’re thinking about coming out… Do what feels best for you.

Some people are in a comfortable environment where they can feel free to share themselves. Other people don’t feel safe telling people close to them that they’re atheist, so don’t feel pressured that you have to tell someone. Your situation might be similar to gays coming out, so you might get better advice for “coming out” tips from them.

If you have a friend that is a(n) (closet) atheist… Be supportive of you friend.

Most people don’t want to be judged for what they do/don’t believe in. Respect their wishes of how they want to share themselves; not all atheists want to go public with their non-beliefs. As long as you’re respectful and compassionate, you’re doing a great thing for a friend.

If you want to learn more about atheism… (Politely) ask your atheist friends about their own non-beliefs.

Not all atheists are the same. There are different “types” of atheists, and each individual has their own perspective on life and religion, so the best thing to do is find out from people you know. But you can always find out more on the internet: Google always has the answer.
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Please feel free to share your own stories and advice to other Atheists, people trying to understand Atheism, and everyone else.

*Note: This is not a debate*

CharlieHorse
August 26th, 2013, 07:33 PM
Hey that's great :) I'm glad that everything worked out well. :)
I haven't experienced anything like this, major questioning of belief, but i can imagine what it'd be like. It sounds really hard. I marvel your strength and courage. :)

I myself have always been an agnostic atheist. My parents are atheist also, but my mom would take me to the local unitarian church every sunday in order to learn about it and meet other people that accept religion into their life and see if it would be something I wanted to do. It was also a great place to meet people and be part of a community. When I started with middle school, I stopped going because I didn't fancy it anymore. My parents let me choose my beliefs. They didn't force any beliefs on me like I know a lot of other parents do, And I'm very thankful that they did. I like having a clear mind to decipher things myself.
I decided that given all the material, I didn't need to have a religion in my life.
I'm completely open to talking to anyone struggling with questioning their beliefs. I am very open minded and I understand.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with this Matt :)

Croconaw
August 27th, 2013, 12:18 PM
Thanks for this! I'm an atheist and the only person that knows is my mom. I've decided to tell her because she is also an atheist. My grandmother is crazy and I'd rather never tell her. My dad, he sort of knows, but he thinks it's a phase...

Cygnus
August 27th, 2013, 10:16 PM
My story is quite similar to yours, my parents wanted me to go confess and then confirm, to which I said no because I am atheist, at the beginning they were a little sad however they do not care right now and still support me.

Marek1
August 31st, 2013, 10:20 AM
I'm atheist and I was raised as an atheist since my parents are atheists. In my opinion atheism is the only rational way to think about religions and other supernatural things.

byee
September 3rd, 2013, 12:26 PM
"Originally Posted by IAMSAM View Post
You know, Matt, I read everything you post and am consistently impressed and amazed at how thoughtful, mature and introspective you are, and I'm not just blowing smoke here at you.

Religion aside, whatever your parents have done with you has resulted in a truly exceptional person. Even though they might be surprised or disappointed by your choice, somehow I think they will also tolerate your decision for these reasons.

Good luck, I suspect it will go better than you think.

Sam"

Hello again, Matt...

I'm reposting this....with the perspective of many years after my original assessment of you. There was never any doubt in my mind that I was correct about you, and it really is gratifying to see that it worked out. You deserve this.

Life's a journey, my friend. And although you might not know the ultimate destination, you at least can take comfort in knowing that your inner compass will help you from going too far afield.

TommyTom
September 4th, 2013, 11:17 AM
Thats are really cool Story and i like it that ur parents are understanding :)

Body odah Man
September 4th, 2013, 01:28 PM
Hello VT,

I’d like to share a story with you that, perhaps, some of you can relate with, and hopefully you leave here with a feeling of confidence and understanding.

First you should know about me: I grew up in a Roman Catholic household- my mom’s parents were from Italy and my dad’s parents were from the Philippines (if you didn’t know, those countries are among the most Catholic countries in the world). I went to mass practically every Sunday of my childhood, I went through CCD (basically a Sunday school to learn about God and the Church), and I grew up in a town that was primarily Christian.

Around 8th grade (14 years old), I started learning about atheism from friends and the internet. I began questioning what I was taught and what my beliefs were. I was shaky though, as most agnostics/atheists are when they first start questioning their faith. If you’ve never been through this experience, just know that it’s a scary thought that things that you’ve been taught by your parents and Church might be lies (such as an afterlife). I learned a lot about myself during this time trying to come to terms with what I did/didn’t believe in. But I wasn’t comfortable with telling anyone yet because I was afraid of how people would react to the news.

Over the next several months, I conferred with my atheist friends to see how they dealt with this period of their life- were they bullied? How did their parents react? Did they lose any friends? How were they treated? Ultimately, I decided to not to tell my family- not yet, at least. I didn’t think they were ready to hear that kind of news. I read stories of kids that were practically disowned by their parents. I wasn’t ready for that kind of risk.

Fast-forward several months: it was time for me to sign up for Confirmation, the final rite in the Catholic religion to becoming “a full-fledged Catholic.” Most of my friends were going through it, adults that I grew up with were in charge of the program, and it seemed like a rite of passage. I was required to write an essay on why I wanted to continue with my Catholic education and why I wanted continue with my future as a part of the Catholic Church. I pondered the question for weeks, and the pressure to finish by the deadline was on. I began writing it but it just didn't feel right. I was lying to the church, my parents, and most importantly, to myself.



I typed an essay (first draft found here (”http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50180”)) of why I was an atheist and gave it to my parents. With the support of my friends (including IAmSam from VT), I gathered the courage to give them the essay. They talked it over the next couple of days and then we all talked together. They tried to understand my stance, and although they didn’t agree with me, they told me they would always love and support me, no matter what. However, they wanted me to try and talk with people at the Church to try to convince me to try going through the Confirmation process; it turned out to be a failure (I was already an atheist), so we decided to leave it alone, and all has been well since.

Fin.
______________________________________________________________________

Now I’d like to give some advice on dealing with atheism.

If you’re an atheist… Know that there are plenty of people out there just like you.

If you ever feel alone or isolated, don’t hesitate to form bonds with other atheists around the world. According to recent polls (http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotryprejudice/a/AtheitsHated.htm), atheists are the least trusted minority in America. There is a stigma that atheists are stuck-up, arrogant “know-it-alls”. (The stereotypes come from angsty teenagers that don’t know how to behave in public). Just treat everyone with respect, be careful what you say, and look up more tips (”http://www.weareatheism.com/resources/10-5-tips-for-coming-out/”) on how to act.

If you’re thinking about coming out… Do what feels best for you.

Some people are in a comfortable environment where they can feel free to share themselves. Other people don’t feel safe telling people close to them that they’re atheist, so don’t feel pressured that you have to tell someone. Your situation might be similar to gays coming out, so you might get better advice for “coming out” tips from them.

If you have a friend that is a(n) (closet) atheist… Be supportive of you friend.

Most people don’t want to be judged for what they do/don’t believe in. Respect their wishes of how they want to share themselves; not all atheists want to go public with their non-beliefs. As long as you’re respectful and compassionate, you’re doing a great thing for a friend.

If you want to learn more about atheism… (Politely) ask your atheist friends about their own non-beliefs.

Not all atheists are the same. There are different “types” of atheists, and each individual has their own perspective on life and religion, so the best thing to do is find out from people you know. But you can always find out more on the internet: Google always has the answer.
_________________________________________________________________

Please feel free to share your own stories and advice to other Atheists, people trying to understand Atheism, and everyone else.

*Note: This is not a debate*

I'm glad it worked out for you :)
I also feel that threads like these ( spreading tolerance of atheism and portraying it as a good thing) are quite needed. Kudos

sqishy
September 7th, 2013, 09:49 AM
Amazing story :D

I really like the tips you have made too, they are helpful for those who have problems with this sort of thing.

I have done communion and confirmation, and am in a Catholic school, but I have never really told myself that I am in this religion and believe what it says.

I have never said I was religious and my family (which is also non-religious) knows I am not. Some friends know too. So coming out full is something I can do easily, it's not a problem.

Cassius
December 1st, 2013, 01:45 AM
Curious... I grew up in a Christian household, not a 'Die-Hard Christian' house but a Christian house all the same. I always have believed but it wasn't until this year that I decided that I wanted to know the Lord.

I have doubts.

I question Him.

I get frustrated with the Lord.

But when I do doubt, when I question Him, I know, somehow, miraculously that I have no reason to doubt. I get a comforting, calming feeling that will seciate my worry. It isn't every time, because sometimes the Lord needs you to find things out for yourself.
If you respect my religion and ideas, I shall respect yours. I often find that my athiest friends try to shove their beliefs (or lack thereof) down my throat. I understand other religions also do that too but I don't understand: why can't people let others just live their lives?

In my prayers,
Blue

Jalinta
December 1st, 2013, 10:59 AM
I'm really glad things worked out for you, and your story is great. I've been an atheist for a while now, and whilst most of my friends know about it, and my sister too, I've always been afraid of telling my parents. I've decided I want to tell them, and I think this may help with a step in the right direction! ;) Thanks for sharing :)

Mikedamaniak
December 6th, 2013, 08:32 PM
Well done. If theres something that you really have to say, and by a deadline, but just can't bring yourself to say it, that writing is is often the best way to go. Around our age (13 and 14), we begin to question what our parents taught us, and thinks that our friends ways are better. Sometimes this makes you embarrassed to be part of your family, or smug at how you seem so superior to the rest of your family, but when your in your situation, this can turn into a big problem.