Mod Probs

[brandonggarcia1]

Some mods don't let peoples threads get to their full potential and lock them down. I believe that sometimes this isn't rational. None of my posts have had that problem, but many people's have. For example, I saw a post on Boys Puberty about what they like most in a girl like body wise that was locked for not being puberty related. Boy's hormones in this case is the basic idea about the forum... This also includes sexual desires that boys have in puberty.

I don't know, I just think mods aren't giving forums the chance to grow.

EDIT: Direct link to one of the many forums that serve as an example. http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=189677

[Jess]

Mods lock threads for a reason; if you want to know why just PM the mod that locked the thread......

[Mob Boss]

Well the forum runs extremely smoothly as it is, because of the hard work the mods put into it. I don't think anyone ever actually stops to think, "Hey, they're putting their time into this forum for free." They work hard at what they do. And I understand you made this thread with good intentions, but it comes off a bit rude. Mods don't close threads for any personal reasons -- every thread closed is so for a reason. What exactly would that be growing or helping expand? P101? There are plenty of other areas besides that, and some of the stuff that mods let slide in there are generous; as they know members are looking for answers. But, seriously, a somewhat demeaning "tits or butt" thread? i don't think that's a serious loss.

[Allain1996]

Moderator "Bacon" along with any other staff member has every right to lock a thread that they deem to be inappropriate, off topic, or just unnecessary.
If you have a question or problem regarding a decision by a staff member, you should take it up in private message or email with the staff member, not in public, per the forum rules.

[Mirage]

Mods have a right to lock threads that are against the rules. Whether the rules seem right to you is frankly irrelevant. I'm sorry if you don't agree with some of the rules but they were put in place to make this site a safe place.

[1_21Guns]

I don't think a thread about butts, boobs and legs is particularly relevant to anything, if you're not aware that many people have different preferences then it's a little silly really, a lot of threads like that have been around over the years, they're nothing more than trivial nonsense while everyone gawks over aspects of a female body, it's not going to be life changing to your puberty development if you don't know the preference of some random guys on a forum, threads like that aren't going anywhere to begin with..
Like people have said you can PM a mod if you disagree with a lock, but these things are locked for a reason.

[Camazotz]

It sounds like you have a problem with the rules or the interpretation of the rules. That particular question (and many like that in the P101 section) are irrelevant to puberty, the physical and emotional changes that teenagers go through. The P101 section is not for discussing sexual topics- those are inappropriate for this website, and are not allowed by the rules. If you have problems with the rules, find another site where those kinds of discussions are allowed.

[Harley Quinn]

Some mods don't let peoples threads get to their full potential and lock them down. I believe that sometimes this isn't rational. None of my posts have had that problem, but many people's have. For example, I saw a post on Boys Puberty about what they like most in a girl like body wise that was locked for not being puberty related. Boy's hormones in this case is the basic idea about the forum... This also includes sexual desires that boys have in puberty.

I don't know, I just think mods aren't giving forums the chance to grow.

EDIT: Direct link to one of the many forums that serve as an example. http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=189677
You could just PM me instead, wouldn't that save you the trouble of complaining about me or what another mod does?

[teen.jpg]

How is that related to puberty though? And who cares what random guys on the internet like about a girls body?

[Gumleaf]

You know, the puberty forums are about sex ed, and that's all really. They aren't about your sexual desires and fantasies, etc. Generally speaking, and the mods may allow a little bit of pushing the boundaries where appropriate, but sex ed means 'I'm 14 and my penis is 5", is that normal?', 'I'm 13 and my period hasn't started, is that normal?', 'I masturbate twice a day, is that normal?' Thos types of questions make up the vast majority of P101 threads and are the basis of what these forums exist for.

[DerBear]

Gumleaf makes an excellent point. Many threads that get locked are because they aren't sex ed or puberty related. Asking things like techniques on how to masturbate or what kind of fetishes/fantasies you have isn't puberty related and as such you'll find your thread being locked for that kind of content.

All this information is laid out in the puberty 101 guidelines which can be found in the puberty 101 forums.

[ImCoolBeans]

You're arguing that our mods are locking legitimate threads, but used a thread asking whether guys prefer to look at a girls breats, legs or her butt... You lost this one in the first post :P

What exactly aren't they letting the forums grow into? A porn site? Looking at a girls body features doesn't have anything to do with puberty, is not sex-ed and offers no help to anybody. P101 is a help section on a help site... Why should that be allowed?

[Steven1]

All the threads are locked for a reason, be that because they're inappropriate, have served their purpose, or for anything really. The thread about butt, boobs or legs is not in any way related to puberty. Staff have the right to close any thread they want, and if you disagree or are wondering why it was closed you're supposed to message the moderator that carried out the action, instead of making a public spectacle about it.

[kryptonite]

So could there be another place for this thread, such as a personal diary or one of the general discussion forums? I don't think there's anything wrong with that type of thread, but it did seem in the wrong place.

[DerBear]

So could there be another place for this thread, such as a personal diary or one of the general discussion forums?

For those kind of posts? No, simply because those posts technically violate the Virtual Teen rules.

If we allowed those inappropriate threads to spawn then we'd opening ourselves up to attract more malicious people.

[Axw_JD]

While the OP used a bad example, I do agree with him that more often than not mods lock threads based on their own agenda instead of actually what would or wouldn't be beneficial. I have seen threads locked in the Mental Crisis section! I highly doubt locking a thread of someone who is thinking about killing himself or freaking out about something will do anything other than further harm that person.

While sometimes necessary, most of the time is just mods abusing their ability to lock threads (to put it in other words, being "trigger happy").

Even on "inappropriate" threads like the example, there's hardly any reason for the lock, other than the mod's personal agenda. The thread doesn't seem to be completely offtopic or doing any harm (there are no flamewars going on or anything).

[xXl0sth0peXx]

While the OP used a bad example, I do agree with him that more often than not mods lock threads based on their own agenda instead of actually what would or wouldn't be beneficial. I have seen threads locked in the Mental Crisis section! I highly doubt locking a thread of someone who is thinking about killing himself or freaking out about something will do anything other than further harm that person.

While sometimes necessary, most of the time is just mods abusing their ability to lock threads (to put it in other words, being "trigger happy").

I can assure you that threads in the psych ward that get locked are either locked in accordance with the 2 month bump rule or if it breaks VT rules (i.e, suicide note). If you see otherwise, you can always send a moderator a PM, however I can assure you we don't go and just lock threads in the psych ward because we want to.

I can also assure you that we do lock in accordance to the rules in all sections. If you have an issue with a thread, as I said above, PM a staff member. Remember, we are human and we do make mistakes. I can assure you we do not get 'trigger happy' when it comes to locking threads.

[Axw_JD]

I can assure you that threads in the psych ward that get locked are either locked in accordance with the 2 month bump rule or if it breaks VT rules (i.e, suicide note). If you see otherwise, you can always send a moderator a PM, however I can assure you we don't go and just lock threads in the psych ward because we want to.

I can also assure you that we do lock in accordance to the rules in all sections. If you have an issue with a thread, as I said above, PM a staff member. Remember, we are human and we do make mistakes. I can assure you we do not get 'trigger happy' when it comes to locking threads.

The "2 month bump rule" is a very good example of a terrible idea for locking threads, specially in the psych ward, specially when the original user is the one bumping the thread instead of making a new one. In general I would much rather see a topic that's 2 months old bumped than 5 different threads about the exact same thing, which is what that rule and locking threads in general promotes.

[DerBear]

The "2 month bump rule" is a very good example of a terrible idea for locking threads, specially in the psych ward, specially when the original user is the one bumping the thread instead of making a new one. In general I would much rather see a topic that's 2 months old bumped than 5 different threads about the exact same thing, which is what that rule and locking threads in general promotes.

If the OP bumps their own thread then that's fine, we will leave it. If you have read our bump rules it states that the OP at any time can bump their thread. We won't lock it.

If you see a mistake being made in that regard then reporting the post or PMing the mod in question is a good way to solve the problem. Moderators are only human and we can make mistakes like this.

[Harry Smith]

While the OP used a bad example, I do agree with him that more often than not mods lock threads based on their own agenda instead of actually what would or wouldn't be beneficial. I have seen threads locked in the Mental Crisis section! I highly doubt locking a thread of someone who is thinking about killing himself or freaking out about something will do anything other than further harm that person.

While sometimes necessary, most of the time is just mods abusing their ability to lock threads (to put it in other words, being "trigger happy").

Even on "inappropriate" threads like the example, there's hardly any reason for the lock, other than the mod's personal agenda. The thread doesn't seem to be completely offtopic or doing any harm (there are no flamewars going on or anything).

If the thread is inappropriate then we have right to lock it, that's common sense- we don't want Puberty 101 turning into Horny Teenagers 101

[Allain1996]

we don't want Puberty 101 turning into Horny Teenagers 101

This is exactly right.
Without the hard work of our faithful H&A mods P101 would be a complete freaking mess!

[anonteen]

I have the same problem with mods and warnings, i am reading the rules and doing what thye are saying, but they are giving warnings, so far, as a new member, im not impressed.

[Allain1996]

I have the same problem with mods and warnings, i am reading the rules and doing what thye are saying, but they are giving warnings, so far, as a new member, im not impressed.

I had this same problem. The solution is to read all the site and forum rules and follow them to a tee. If the staff instructs you to do something, don't talk back and do exactly as they say, and you'll be fine.
By following these simple guidelines, I haven't had a problem with anyone for months and my experience on the forums has improved dramatically! :D

[James Bond]

It did seem to be a bit inappropriate, and it was in the wrong section. I'm pretty sure you're allowed to do a thread similar to that in the relationships forum without having it deleted, but I'm pretty sure it can't be about the pretty obvious things.

[LunarScorpio]

I have been here for about 4 months, and Never got any warnings or anything. I can also guarantee that others have been here longer, and not been infracted.

It is not difficult to stay out of trouble.

[Its Pretty]

I was kicked many times from the chat by anonymous hidden mods without reason and without bring warned or told why afterwards. It may be the case that some of the the mods may be abusing their power or have a mental disorder causing them to short-circuit. It may be a good idea to implement a 2mod 1ban system where 2 mods have to agree to ban a user, instead of one mod having absolute power. I don't know how this would be coded, but it's a good idea, M I rite?

[Castle of Glass]

I was kicked many times from the chat by anonymous hidden mods without reason and without bring warned or told why afterwards. It may be the case that some of the the mods may be abusing their power or have a mental disorder causing them to short-circuit. It may be a good idea to implement a 2mod 1ban system where 2 mods have to agree to ban a user, instead of one mod having absolute power. I don't know how this would be coded, but it's a good idea, M I rite?

no your not. mods live on different time zones. though usually there are 2 or more mods online, that is not always the case. The mods know when to ban. And if i remember correct, they follow some warning, major warning, kick, ban system. i have seen it happen before. and it works. anonymous mods are mods who are doing other stuff and modding chat(hence they are hidden). none of the mods will abuse their power(unless they are bored and then only they will just rename peoples name in chat) Aaaand finally, not really a good idea to say that the mods have a short-circuiting mental disorder. Just and FYI.

Mods and admins, feel free to correct me if i misexplained something.

[Its Pretty]

no your not. mods live on different time zones. though usually there are 2 or more mods online, that is not always the case. The mods know when to ban. And if i remember correct, they follow some warning, major warning, kick, ban system. i have seen it happen before. and it works. anonymous mods are mods who are doing other stuff and modding chat(hence they are hidden). none of the mods will abuse their power(unless they are bored and then only they will just rename peoples name in chat) Aaaand finally, not really a good idea to say that the mods have a short-circuiting mental disorder. Just and FYI.

Mods and admins, feel free to correct me if i misexplained something.

O hai you know that warning-majorwarning-kick or whatever system you were talking about? Yeah, that clearly didn't work because I was kicked without any pre or post explanation. Whoever kicked me did so criminally. Maybe a mod would have to become visible to kick, just to avoid corrupt sneaky pplz kicking for the lulz. As some dead philosopher guy said, absolute power (over the kick system) brings absolute corruption.

[ksdnfkfr]

I haven't had any problems so far. I just feel bad when I post to a new thread and then it gets locked and they give the reason. I feel like, whoops I should have seen why that thread was a problem. And I've learned to be careful about not posting to an expired thread that's been bumped by someone. I don't see any reason why we shouldn't know what not to post as much as the mods, since they are just following the rules that are there for all of us to read.

[Its Pretty]

Then you haven't used the chat where mods (human beings) have anonymous power and can kick whoever they want for teh lulzz. U need to get your lulz from somewhere.

[whywontthiswork]

I still don't understand the arguement. so the person who made this thread thinks its ok to ask a bunch of hormone filled testostrone filled teenagers about a girls butt and chest? Im a guy and a teenager with the same hormones and i find that thread disgusting and truely unacceptable. I like females to and have preferences but i dont flaunt it around. Though i have a question, how do i report a picture for being to showful and whats the extent of ok in a pic. Please qoute me so i can get the answer thanks

[Castle of Glass]

O hai you know that warning-majorwarning-kick or whatever system you were talking about? Yeah, that clearly didn't work because I was kicked without any pre or post explanation. Whoever kicked me did so criminally. Maybe a mod would have to become visible to kick, just to avoid corrupt sneaky pplz kicking for the lulz. As some dead philosopher guy said, absolute power (over the kick system) brings absolute corruption.

or it did. you just didn't see it. criminally? highly doubt it. wasn't there for the convo, so i have no idea what it was about, but if it was a couple of the mods who regularly ghost the chat, then i highly, very highly doubt you where kicked for no reason. Usually they enter chat if something is happening. but sometimes they don't. oh, and the thing about them kicking for lulz, doesn't happen. you have to understand, there are times when the mods have to do other stuff other than just babysit chat.

[Its Pretty]

or it did. you just didn't see it. criminally? highly doubt it. wasn't there for the convo, so i have no idea what it was about, but if it was a couple of the mods who regularly ghost the chat, then i highly, very highly doubt you where kicked for no reason. Usually they enter chat if something is happening. but sometimes they don't. oh, and the thing about them kicking for lulz, doesn't happen. you have to understand, there are times when the mods have to do other stuff other than just babysit chat.

it's not about what you don't think would happen, or what hasn't happened, it's about WHAT DID happen >:| Whether you like it or accept it or not, it happened.

[ksdnfkfr]

Then you haven't used the chat where mods (human beings) have anonymous power and can kick whoever they want for teh lulzz. U need to get your lulz from somewhere.

I'm sure the mods take their jobs very seriously and operate with a sense of morals. I bet if you re-read some of the stuff you got kicked for 2 or 3 years from now you'd understand why it was a problem.

[Castle of Glass]

it's not about what you don't think would happen, or what hasn't happened, it's about WHAT DID happen >:| Whether you like it or accept it or not, it happened.

mods always kick for a reason. so think about what you did that incident. then just don't do it again. and READ and reread the rules. and if you don't understand something, PM a mod

[Its Pretty]

mods always kick for a reason. so think about what you did that incident. then just don't do it again. and READ and reread the rules. and if you don't understand something, PM a mod

In human choices 'always' does not exist. Do not let me waste my time further. Anonymity corrupts. Action must be taken to ensure that corruption does not occur. As for the poster above you, I hope I do not have to explain why I shall label him as a troll.

[ksdnfkfr]

As for the poster above you, I hope I do not have to explain why I shall label him as a troll.

Good grief.

[Harley Quinn]

I still don't understand the arguement. so the person who made this thread thinks its ok to ask a bunch of hormone filled testostrone filled teenagers about a girls butt and chest? Im a guy and a teenager with the same hormones and i find that thread disgusting and truely unacceptable. I like females to and have preferences but i dont flaunt it around. Though i have a question, how do i report a picture for being to showful and whats the extent of ok in a pic. Please qoute me so i can get the answer thanks

You can PM a staff member and they will take a look at it for you. :)

[Professional Russian]

O hai you know that warning-majorwarning-kick or whatever system you were talking about? Yeah, that clearly didn't work because I was kicked without any pre or post explanation. Whoever kicked me did so criminally. Maybe a mod would have to become visible to kick, just to avoid corrupt sneaky pplz kicking for the lulz. As some dead philosopher guy said, absolute power (over the kick system) brings absolute corruption.

Oh my god. You got kicked from chat let's moan and complain about how bad mods are. Jesus Christ people its not like you were banned

[TheMatrix]

In conclusion, if you have a problem with any staff member, tell them or an administrator. But don't make a thread to complain about it, because then it turns into pointless debate like we had here.

:locked:

[ImCoolBeans]

I know this is locked but...

We don't have to warn you before we kick you, it's just something nice we do.