Criminals' Human Rights

[Tarannosaurus]

So this conversation started in another thread http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=186450&page=8

In your opinion, should criminals have the same rights as everyone else (human rights, the right to vote, etc)?
Does it depend on the severity of the crime?
Should prisoners have access to televisions, gyms, pool tables and other luxuries?
Does it depend on the situation?

What do you think?

[britishboy]

yes of course bit sometimes human rights are exaggerated for example the EU has told the UK that life sentences with no chance of realise illegal as its against their human rights

[JamesSuperBoy]

I think it depends on the situation/crimes committed but the UK is now trying to reduce the overall costs of prison so more and more are released or non custodial sentences.

Huge debate all round on this -

[Hypers]

Prison should be a punishment not a government housing program so prisoner rights should not be protected.

[kylem1229]

They should have the same rights. Give them TV, gym, outside time, ETC. Just make it limited.

[Kameraden]

Are you all stupid? Criminals.. murderers, rapists, child molesters.. should be housed by tax dollars, and given luxuries many free, law-abiding citizens don't have? Use your heads.

[Spook]

I say we send the prisoners to Syria and give the homeless shelter at the nice prisons we pay tax money for.

[tovaris]

Noone can deny a human human rights!
Some rights like that of free movement are restricted due to the proces of resocialisation.

[Gigablue]

All humans are entitled to human rights.
Prisoners are humans.
Therefore prisoners are entitled to human rights.

It's not that hard to understand. Everyone has the same basic rights, and nothing can make you lose them.

The question of luxuries is more complicated. We shouldn't give prisoners every luxury in the world, just due to the issue of cost, but we can't deprive them of everything, since that would constitute cruel and unusual punishment. I do think that we should give them reasonable comfortable lives, however. In general, countries with better living conditions in prison have much lower rates of reoffending.

[britishboy]

I say we send the prisoners to Syria and give the homeless shelter at the nice prisons we pay tax money for.

I agree

Noone can deny a human human rights!
Some rights like that of free movement are restricted due to the proces of resocialisation.

should you be able to give life sentences?

Are you all stupid? Criminals.. murderers, rapists, child molesters.. should be housed by tax dollars, and given luxuries many free, law-abiding citizens don't have? Use your heads.

I agree!

[tovaris]

should you be able to give life sentences?





If the law alowes it... a life sentenc does not wiolate rights, but raises moral questions since resocialisation may be sucsesful...

[Human]

I think that prisoners should have the same rights, even 'worse' ones. I don't think we should be giving them luxurious conditions but we need to rehabilitate them. Norway gives them great conditions, and they have the lowest re-offending rates in Europe.

[Mushin]

No, criminals who have committed severe crimes should not be granted the privileges of law abiding citizens. That's just ridiculous. Criminals should be granted the bare necessities to survive and stay healthy. Tv, pool tables, games, etc. are all luxuries that they should not have. They are in prison for a reason.

Prisoners who have committed minor crimes, however, should be granted more rights than someone who has committed a felony - for example.

They should have the same rights. Give them TV, gym, outside time, ETC. Just make it limited.

Sure, let's pay for prisoners to have an enjoyable sentence with our money for the crimes that they have committed. Man, that makes perfect sense! :rolleyes:

The prison system (specifically in america) really needs to be changed around.

[Jess]

They are humans, and are entitled to human rights. Luxuries, however, should not be given to the really bad ones, like murderers, rapists, etc.

[conniption]

Of course they should still have rights, they are still humans after all. But, luxuries like tv, gym, games, etc. they shouldn't have.

[LouBerry]

Of course they should have their rights. They are humans, no matter what they've done.

[Cygnus]

It all depends on the situation, if they are going to be executed then let them have nothing, if they just have to be there some years then give em human rights.

[Stronk Serb]

I say that they should work while in prison. There are roads, buildings, bridges and lots more that can be built. Instead of having the government hire another workforce, the prisoners will be able to do it, they just need the materials.

[Steven1]

I think it depends on the crime. Major crimes such as murder violate others human rights, so if they don't respect others human rights what on earth gives them the right to have any? As for conditions in prison, I think they're far too good. They're in there for a reason, so why should they be given TV's and such? There are some people who work and can't afford half the luxuries prisoners get. It's just wrong. I would share my full views but they're a bit controversial and would only end up causing a debate, which I can't be bothered with.

[Sugaree]

Are you all stupid? Criminals.. murderers, rapists, child molesters.. should be housed by tax dollars, and given luxuries many free, law-abiding citizens don't have? Use your heads.

My thoughts exactly. Prison is a punishment, not a luxury resort condo. Lock them up and hide the key until their sentences are done, don't shower them with free gifts out of "human rights".

When you commit a crime, such a murder, rape, molestation, or any crime which directly affects another person, you have no rights. Sure, you have the right to a speedy trial and due process, but if you're found guilty, you have no rights because you have failed to respect the human right of being sound in body and self from another human being.

Other crimes, such as robbery, are just as deplorable. If you have to rob someone because you have no other choice, such as stealing bread from the store because you need to eat, maybe I could understand. But there are other ways to go about getting food when you're not financially able to get it.

So no, "human rights" do not exist for criminals because those humans have failed to recognize and respect the rights of others.

[Kameraden]

I say that they should work while in prison. There are roads, buildings, bridges and lots more that can be built. Instead of having the government hire another workforce, the prisoners will be able to do it, they just need the materials.

As much as I would love to agree with this, I cannot. It would be very bad for the economy, especially in the United States, as it would raise the unemployment rate among law-abiding seasons, and instead give the work to criminals. Perhaps we could have criminals dig a hole and fill it again repeatedly.

[Stronk Serb]

As much as I would love to agree with this, I cannot. It would be very bad for the economy, especially in the United States, as it would raise the unemployment rate among law-abiding seasons, and instead give the work to criminals. Perhaps we could have criminals dig a hole and fill it again repeatedly.

I mean that government building projects should be done by criminals. Projects like road maintenance, building government buildings etc. Private projects should be done by law-abiding workers.

[QuantumPhysics]

So this conversation started in another thread http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=186450&page=8

In your opinion, should criminals have the same rights as everyone else (human rights, the right to vote, etc)?
Does it depend on the severity of the crime?
Should prisoners have access to televisions, gyms, pool tables and other luxuries?
Does it depend on the situation?

What do you think?

I really don't understand. Those people that enforce the Human |RightS (I forgot the name) are stupid. Most of the criminals have broken the human rights so why should they still receive them. Yes, they shouldn't be kept in a pit in the hole. But they shouldn't be able to get TV's and stuff. Its not a holiday home. I think that 'an eye for an eye' should be applied for criminals. If they stole something, we should steal something from them. If they killed we should kill them in the same way.