Religion and Family

[MrDrDude]

this is going to be long.

OK, so this morning, 8/18/13, i finally told my mom that i'm athiest. My family is very religious but when my mom heard that she went into "Rage Mode" and started threatening me, first with the normal video games an computer grounding threats just to get me to go to church today. Now, i'm no cathloc, i'm "methodost", with a father who was brought up as a cathloc. But anyway, my mom threatened me with the normal punishments, i keep up this act of rebellion(i think in this circumstance i can call my behavior rebellious), until my mother threatens me with the following: being unable to join the school swim team (i love being on the swim team), calling the police to "extract" me from the house, meaning out in cuffs (she doesn't trust me alone in the house for 2 hours), an put me into reform school (school for juvenile delinquents). Bit over the top, eh,? I still ended up going to get my father's opinion on this(he is the church organist). Well, i haven't discussed it with him yet and this happend 4 1/2 hours ago (10:30), but now everyone in my family is acting like it never happened. What do you think you would have done?, considering that i have been thinking of myself as an athiest for 4 years now.

[BandedKlepto]

If you are not 18 or close to that age, do not shoot yourself in the foot. Meaning don't make your parents hate you and make your life a living hell, overly religious parents are the most dense ignorant people on the planet, and if you "rebel" against them they will basically torture you regardless of the fact that you are their kid. That's why I say if you are not 18, go with the flow. Play along. Do not say a word to ruin it, then when you are old enough where they can't do a thing to you- scream it to the world if that is what you wish. That's the best advice I can give.

[uglyinsideandout]

LOL, you thought your post was long...

I think your mom was upset and didn't react very well to the news you told her. I don't know what normal parents do when presented shocking news but from what I hear it's kinda normal for them to flip out.

I don't know how your parents are, if they really follow through on punishments, and I don't know how important it is to you to make this stand.

I guess she can take away your toys and not let you be on the swim team, but the part with the cops sounds a little over the top. What would the charge be? Where would they take you? Reform school? Where do you live, Victorian England? Where I am they have the schools that they send the loser kids to, the ones that fight or get pregnant etc but your parents can't just decide to send you there.

I wouldn't have said anything, but that's just how I am, I very rarely ever stand up for myself, I'm not that important even to me that I need to do that. But FWIW, I was raised early on with religion and that all went away after my mom died. I spent a few years drifting away from God and thinking that he must not like me very much to let the things happen that were going on. Then when things were as bad as they had ever been I was thinking about killing myself and I asked God that if he was there and he cared to show me something that I could believe in. Well, he did, and now I'm very sorry I ever doubted God. Maybe you don't believe for some of the same reasons I didn't but I think God does care about us and I'm sorry I ever felt the way I did. it makes me sad to read the comment above about how ignorant I must be and how I would force you to do things you didn't want to do. I wouldn't. It also makes me feel a little sad that you don't think there is a God that loves you, but you can feel any way you want to I won't force anything on you. I just think that if you felt the presence of God you might reconsider. I can only tell you that it really changed alot of the way I see things and I'm trying more to help myself instead of just waiting around to die. Sure alot of things still upset me but I can get through them better now. Or maybe I'm just a stupid girl that believes in fairy tales and the joke is on me.

[teen.jpg]

Why would you do that! That's so not worth the effort. You could've just went to church with her, it's not that big of a deal. Pick your battles wisely.

But now you've got yourself into this mess. I wish you the best, because honestly I have no idea how this could work out for you.

[Stronk Serb]

By law, forced religious indoctrination is illegal, you can report them. If she goes ape shit on you, tell her that and that you will report her if she continues to threaten to you like that. Also, tell her that her God gave humans freedom, and that it is a sin to take away that freedom.

[pieman10]

Time for a quote from the good bible itself, shes going to love this one.

Timothy 2:11-12

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

If she loves and obeys the bible so much, she should take this to heart.

[Stronk Serb]

Time for a quote from the good bible itself, shes going to love this one.

Timothy 2:11-12

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

If she loves and obeys the bible so much, she should take this to heart.

xD I love it when you can turn a person's own religion against him. I did that several times, and the people I was debating were speechless.

[uglyinsideandout]

Time for a quote from the good bible itself, shes going to love this one.

Timothy 2:11-12

A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

If she loves and obeys the bible so much, she should take this to heart.

Are you addressing a man? Is this 'man' paying his own rent and buying his own food? Paying the light bill? No? Not a man, still a child. If I pulled some shit like this I'd get to see what being a grown up was really all about and be on my own fast.

[pieman10]

Are you addressing a man? Is this 'man' paying his own rent and buying his own food? Paying the light bill? No? Not a man, still a child. If I pulled some shit like this I'd get to see what being a grown up was really all about and be on my own fast.

The bible is clear in such affairs.
A woman is inferior to man and must submit and obey, to go against this command is to go against god the almighty himself.

You yourself are a young woman, the bible commands that you must wed and submit to man, do not go against the will of the almighty God

[uglyinsideandout]

The bible is clear in such affairs.
A woman is inferior to man and must submit and obey, to go against this command is to go against god the almighty himself.

You yourself are a young woman, the bible commands that you must wed and submit to man, do not go against the will of the almighty God

First, I bolded and italicized a portion of your above post. Do not quote Biblical at me with a book/chapter/verse reference, I haven't the time to act as your research assistant. If you "know" the Bible says something kindly provide the citation or have your claim dismissed as wishful male thinking.

Now then, you probably shouldn't open this 'Bible says...' can of worms with me. I am not a woman, I am a girl. The other guy in a not a man he is a boy. Now have a look at Exodus 20:12 and the follow up Ephesians 6:2. And you will see where CHILDREN fall in the pecking order with ADULTS, especially PARENTS.

Not enough?
Try http://christianfeminism.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/the-mistranslation-of-1-timothy-211-12/

For a full dismantling of the myth which you apparently subscribe to.