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Sir Suomi
August 12th, 2013, 02:33 PM
As a frequent visitor to ROTW section of this forum(Actually, it's really the only place I post :P), it's been obvious that many people on this forum are very political. So I thought of possibly having a "VT Presidential Election". The "President" could be made an honorary Mod for the ROTW section. There would be a maximum amount of candidates(3-5?), each candidate needing to be nominated for a party, which at minimum must consist of 10 other people. You could "campaign" for a short amount of time(A month or two?), and then on the day of the elections, everyone on VT could vote for who they think is the best candidate.

So what do you think?

project_icarus
August 12th, 2013, 02:40 PM
Honourary ROTW mod? I can see that going down well...

Meganium
August 12th, 2013, 02:52 PM
If he's putting emphasis on "honorary" then I don't see a problem with it. But there's really no point, since they don't have any moderator privileges.

Plus, someone who's just good on knowledge in politics shouldn't get privileges because of that. It proves nothing about them being capable of being a mod, real or not.

Now if they had some other title besides mod, and this is all in fun, then yeah, I can see this happening for active users in ROTW. Really, you can start it yourself if that's the case.

Jess
August 12th, 2013, 02:55 PM
Eh no thanks. I don't see the point. If anything, there doesn't need to be a special reward. I believe there were several "elections" held before, but the winners didn't get anything; it was just for fun.

The reward of being a mod is definitely not good; you have to earn that place, and it shouldn't be a reward of a pretend election

1_21Guns
August 12th, 2013, 02:57 PM
If you do it it should be for fun and the fact you enjoy a good debate, you don't really need to get anything out of it

Lost in the Echo
August 12th, 2013, 03:08 PM
There's a reason why moderators are chosen by the admin. All staff members are chosen due to them being qualified. If we had "elections" then the candidates might start PMing other members to vote for them, or the candidates' friends might vote for them. Which is extremely biased.
If we held these elections, the results would be skewed.

This does sound kinda cool, but honestly, there's too many flaws in this suggestion, and it isn't worth the risk.

Harry Smith
August 12th, 2013, 03:08 PM
As much as I like the idea of having a mock election, I really do but it will turn ugly. You'll have people pming people asking to vote and they will be slagging off other people.

The other problem is that just because someone is popular doesn't mean that their a good mod, the person would have to be given staff status and we want to be in control of who is in a positon of power.

Also if it is political your going to have a mod who holds highly politicized views and they could abuse to stop other's expressing their views.

I like the idea of an election, just not for a staff position

DerBear
August 12th, 2013, 03:16 PM
Did we not used to do a few years back a VT Presidential election where some of the members would get together and make up funny manifestos and we'd create voting threads etc?

Jess
August 12th, 2013, 03:19 PM
Did we not used to do a few years back a VT Presidential election where some of the members would get together and make up funny manifestos and we'd create voting threads etc?

Yep, we did. I remember. There was no reward; it was all just for fun.

DerBear
August 12th, 2013, 03:22 PM
Yep, we did. I remember. There was no reward; it was all just for fun.

Yeah I think people would be more up for this than creating one based off of how well you debate in ROTW.

StoppingTime
August 12th, 2013, 03:22 PM
Did we not used to do a few years back a VT Presidential election where some of the members would get together and make up funny manifestos and we'd create voting threads etc?

This. Adam (who's username I don't remember at this moment) used to hold "elections" in which VT users could "elect" a president and whatnot. It didn't really mean anything, and that's I can see again. There will be no "honorary mod" titles or anything like that, as it would certainly confuse users as to whether or not they were actually moderators.

Southside
August 12th, 2013, 06:10 PM
If it was just for ROTW then I dont really see the problem, I think it would be a fun activity....

Sir Suomi
August 12th, 2013, 06:11 PM
I was just trying to think of an interesting name for the victor, and "Honorary Mod" was the first thing that popped in my mind. I wasn't actually considering them to hold any real moderating power or the like. I just thought it was a neat idea.

Harry Smith
August 12th, 2013, 06:14 PM
I was just trying to think of an interesting name for the victor, and "Honorary Mod" was the first thing that popped in my mind. I wasn't actually considering them to hold any real moderating power or the like. I just thought it was a neat idea.

I do think it would be a fun idea to implement onto the forum as long as it doesn't get out of hand

Sir Suomi
August 12th, 2013, 06:16 PM
I do think it would be a fun idea to implement onto the forum as long as it doesn't get out of hand

I see. Well does anyone have any ideas on how to manage this?

1_21Guns
August 12th, 2013, 07:54 PM
I see. Well does anyone have any ideas on how to manage this?

I'd like to hope anyone who wanted to get involved in such a thing would be responsible and mature enough to handle the situation properly, but that might not be the case.

Sir Suomi
August 12th, 2013, 08:48 PM
I'd like to hope anyone who wanted to get involved in such a thing would be responsible and mature enough to handle the situation properly, but that might not be the case.

Well if they have enough supporters to even qualify for election, I'd have to guess that they'd be mature enough to handle the responsibility.

1_21Guns
August 12th, 2013, 09:04 PM
Well if they have enough supporters to even qualify for election, I'd have to guess that they'd be mature enough to handle the responsibility.

If this happens it may be more of a case of hoping that people are mature and respectful, which is the reason it could result in chaos. I'm sure it would get handled properly though, and I suppose anyone who doesn't act accordingly is simply removed from the election

teen.jpg
August 12th, 2013, 11:06 PM
No. Just no. I can just see it now .... the horror.

Camazotz
August 12th, 2013, 11:16 PM
No, the last thing anyone in the ROTW section is an ego and a title of "power", even if they don't actually hold any power.

Back in the good old days, the VT Awards included a "best debater" award, but other than that, there's really no reason for this.

StoppingTime
August 12th, 2013, 11:18 PM
No, the last thing anyone in the ROTW section is an ego and a title of "power", even if they don't actually hold any power.

Back in the good old days, the VT Awards included a "best debater" award, but other than that, there's really no reason for this.

We still do those, just wait until the holiday season ;) As you said, I think those are the only "awards" that will really be given out.

ImCoolBeans
August 13th, 2013, 10:44 AM
If you want to organize something like that it's not a problem at all, but I'll tell you now that no honorary mod position will ever really be given out for anything, bad idea :P

Sir Suomi
August 13th, 2013, 09:27 PM
If you want to organize something like that it's not a problem at all, but I'll tell you now that no honorary mod position will ever really be given out for anything, bad idea :P

Like I said, I was just trying to think of a title for the position. I guess that wasn't the best option to choose now was it? :whoops:

Laquifa
August 13th, 2013, 10:09 PM
I think that this is a good idea, just not with the mod title. I think that this would be better done in the Arcade, since it's more of a game than anything else.

ImCoolBeans
August 13th, 2013, 10:11 PM
I think TWPR is a better place than the arcade

Laquifa
August 13th, 2013, 10:24 PM
I think TWPR is a better place than the arcade

I was thinking the Arcade because the Arcade doesn't count towards post count (as well as this sounding like a game), and TWPR does add to a member's post count.

ImCoolBeans
August 13th, 2013, 10:26 PM
I was thinking the Arcade because the Arcade doesn't count towards post count (as well as this sounding like a game), and TWPR does add to a member's post count.

Why not count it towards post count? It always has in the past :P

Laquifa
August 13th, 2013, 10:27 PM
Why not count it towards post count? It always has in the past :P

I guess I wasn't here for that ._., this is my first time hearing of a VT president.