If you are found guilty of Terrorism, should your rights be taken away

[Sir Suomi]

I say yes. They deserve no rights. They no longer qualify for Human Rights when they attempt to kill innocent civilians just for some damned cause. We should have the right to torture and interrogate guilty individuals so we can extract as much information as possible. Why the hell are we sheltering them in prisons, when their goals were to kill innocent people? They should not have the right live a comfortable life. And once we are done extracting information, we should commence an immediate execution. They show no mercy towards us. And we shall show no mercy to them.

[Southside]

We created terrorism.

Every time we kill a innocent Arabian civilian and their family member gets angry, that's another terrorist

Every time the genocidal state of Israel kills a innocent Palestinian, that's another terrorist

Every time we drone strike on Yemen,Somalia, or Pakistan, that creates terrorist

The US government and the Israeli government are some of the biggest terrorist in the world, I don't see you complaining much about them..

[Walter Powers]

Of course they should have there rights taken away, just like any other criminal who plots mass murder. Recently there's been cases of terrorist being released and colleges hired them as professor, that's beyond crazy!

We created terrorism.

Every time we kill a innocent Arabian civilian and their family member gets angry, that's another terrorist

Every time the genocidal state of Israel kills a innocent Palestinian, that's another terrorist

Every time we drone strike on Yemen,Somalia, or Pakistan, that creates terrorist

The US government and the Israeli government are some of the biggest terrorist in the world, I don't see you complaining much about them..

We all know how you feel the big bad USA victimized these poor innocent Islamic extremists. Now can you answer the question at hand?

[Southside]

Of course they should have there rights taken away, just like any other criminal who plots mass murder. Recently there's been cases of terrorist being released and colleges hired them as professor, that's beyond crazy!



We all know how you feel the big bad USA victimized these poor innocent Islamic extremists. Now can you answer the question at hand?

I say we should send them back to their home country, after we gather information. You know a lot of people at Gitmo don't even have charges filed against them? A good amount of them are completely innocent. Innocent Taxi drivers have been held in Gitmo, innocent Europeans have been held in Gitmo. Why have kids our age been held at Gitmo? That's a violation of international law...

Now, answer my question, Why has Switzerland or Austria never been attacked by foreign terrorism?

[Harry Smith]

The key term is human rights.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

The US signed this back in 1948, I seem to recall that Nazi Germany called French Freedom fighters terrorists. You can't take away someone's rights, I'm not supporting terrorism or justifying it- I'm saying that we're all humans who should be ruled by the same rights

[tovaris]

Being found guilty of terorism doesnt mean one is a terorist!
And even if they are that is no reason to torture them etc... deny them human rights. They are stil human! Yust because they are criminals doesnt mean you can deny them basic human rights!
To torture them?! THAT IS UNHUMANE!!!
To kill them with mo mercy?! IS YOUR BRAIN WIRED WRONG!!! That is againced all morals and rights!

[Sir Suomi]

Being found guilty of terorism doesnt mean one is a terorist!
And even if they are that is no reason to torture them etc... deny them human rights. They are stil human! Yust because they are criminals doesnt mean you can deny them basic human rights!
To torture them?! THAT IS UNHUMANE!!!
To kill them with mo mercy?! IS YOUR BRAIN WIRED WRONG!!! That is againced all morals and rights!

Reread what you first said. Say it to yourself slowly. Then realize the mistake you made.

Inhumane? Isn't it inhumane of them to kill innocent men, women, and children? If they wish to deny others of their freedom of life, their lives should be taken as well. It is justice. Blowing yourself up in front of a group of school children seems against all morals to me.

[Harry Smith]

Reread what you first said. Say it to yourself slowly. Then realize the mistake you made.

Inhumane? Isn't it inhumane of them to kill innocent men, women, and children? If they wish to deny others of their freedom of life, their lives should be taken as well. It is justice. Blowing yourself up in front of a group of school children seems against all morals to me.

Whilst I agree with the emotion the death Penalty wouldn't solve anything. The right to life is outlined in the universal deceleration of human rights. It doesn't matter what you've done- we should all have the same rights. It's not a case of tit for tat.

[tovaris]

Reread what you first said. Say it to yourself slowly. Then realize the mistake you made.

Inhumane? Isn't it inhumane of them to kill innocent men, women, and children? If they wish to deny others of their freedom of life, their lives should be taken as well. It is justice. Blowing yourself up in front of a group of school children seems against all morals to me.

Just because someone is a criminal doesnt mean we need to be to!
No human can be denied basic rights by others!!!

[Sir Suomi]

Just because someone is a criminal doesnt mean we need to be to!
No human can be denied basic rights by others!!!

You're missing the point. They are denying others the right to live, and if they are allowed to live, there is always a good possibility that they shall do it again. Do you want to be held responsible for the deaths of innocent people, just because you think those pieces of shit deserve to live? No. We'll give them a quick and easy death. It's more than they deserve.

And Harry, they'd do the same to us. It's to the point where it's either us, or it's them. And I'd rather kill 100 Terrorists than see 1 innocent child killed due to an attack. Don't you agree? Don't you see why we need to stop them?

[Harry Smith]

You're missing the point. They are denying others the right to live, and if they are allowed to live, there is always a good possibility that they shall do it again. Do you want to be held responsible for the deaths of innocent people, just because you think those pieces of shit deserve to live? No. We'll give them a quick and easy death. It's more than they deserve.

And Harry, they'd do the same to us. It's to the point where it's either us, or it's them. And I'd rather kill 100 Terrorists than see 1 innocent child killed due to an attack. Don't you agree? Don't you see why we need to stop them?

My terrorist is someone else's freedom fighter.

You know the CIA had plans (operation mongoose) to use terrorist attacks to gain support for a war against Cuba.

I also have issues with the way the US defies a terrorist, many innocent men have been tortured by the CIA and in Gitmo based on their relgion or race. You try them in a civil court, if they're guilty you place them in a supermax prison for 60 years

[tovaris]

You're missing the point. They are denying others the right to live, and if they are allowed to live, there is always a good possibility that they shall do it again. Do you want to be held responsible for the deaths of innocent people, just because you think those pieces of shit deserve to live? No. We'll give them a quick and easy death. It's more than they deserve.

And Harry, they'd do the same to us. It's to the point where it's either us, or it's them. And I'd rather kill 100 Terrorists than see 1 innocent child killed due to an attack. Don't you agree? Don't you see why we need to stop them?


No you dont kill hem in cold blob but no sain person would let a real criminal walk around.
You trial them and sentenc them acording to the law that isnt biast, you give them a sentenc. And you do NOT desregard every singal basic right on the list!

They are crimilals like many others: murderers, „finance mam”,etc... (if they are truly terorists...)

My terrorist is someone else's freedom fighter.


in some countries cia is listed as a terorist grup

[Taryn98]

What rights are we talking about? And what people are we calling terrorists?

American citizens have rights under the Constitution, or are you referring to foreign individuals that are captured, because they don't have equal protection since they are not American citizens. That distinction plays a significant role in how they are treated in the justice system.

[Human]

Anyone has human rights, because they're still human, no matter what they've done.

[LouBerry]

No one should ever have their rights taken away. Two wrongs don't make a right. They should be punished, most likely condemned to death, but there is not reason to inflict unnecessary pain on another human being.

[MisterSix]

I say yes. Then you can publicly execute this person (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=185757) if they are found guilty.

[Jess]

Anyone has human rights, because they're still human, no matter what they've done.

This. Unfortunately, no matter how evil the crime, they are still human and therefore have rights.

[Walter Powers]

I say we should send them back to their home country, after we gather information. You know a lot of people at Gitmo don't even have charges filed against them? A good amount of them are completely innocent. Innocent Taxi drivers have been held in Gitmo, innocent Europeans have been held in Gitmo. Why have kids our age been held at Gitmo? That's a violation of international law...

Now, answer my question, Why has Switzerland or Austria never been attacked by foreign terrorism?

You are sidetracking.

We are talking about people here who have been FOUND GUILTY of terrorism, not these people Guantanamo who haven't been charged. Stay on topic.

As for Austria and Switzerland, that is also irrelevant.

Being found guilty of terorism doesnt mean one is a terorist!
And even if they are that is no reason to torture them etc... deny them human rights. They are stil human! Yust because they are criminals doesnt mean you can deny them basic human rights!
To torture them?! THAT IS UNHUMANE!!!
To kill them with mo mercy?! IS YOUR BRAIN WIRED WRONG!!! That is againced all morals and rights!

...says the communist.

Did anybody say anything about torture? I think he's more talking about being able to vote, being able to fly on an airline, that type of thing.

Being found guilty of terorism doesnt mean one is a terorist!

Yes it does, if you murder somebody are you a murderer? Of course you are!

Anyone has human rights, because they're still human, no matter what they've done.

Do you think they should be allowed to vote?
Do you think they should be allowed to fly?

[Southside]

You are sidetracking.

We are talking about people here who have been FOUND GUILTY of terrorism, not these people Guantanamo who haven't been charged. Stay on topic.

As for Austria and Switzerland, that is also irrelevant.



...says the communist.

Did anybody say anything about torture? I think he's more talking about being able to vote, being able to fly on an airline, that type of thing.



Yes it does, if you murder somebody are you a murderer? Of course you are!



Do you think they should be allowed to vote?
Do you think they should be allowed to fly?

Ok, I understand not being able to fly on a airplane or something like that. Why should they be restricted from voting? Why should they be denied human rights? That'd be against the core American values! :rolleyes:

The reason I brought up Austria and Switzerland is to show you that if we minded our own business and didn't go around being the world police, terrorism would not be a issue for our country.

[Walter Powers]

Ok, I understand not being able to fly on a airplane or something like that. Why should they be restricted from voting? Why should they be denied human rights? That'd be against the core American values! :rolleyes:

The reason I brought up Austria and Switzerland is to show you that if we minded our own business and didn't go around being the world police, terrorism would not be a issue for our country.

That is very debatable, how about you make another thread about it so we won't clutter up George's?

What human rights are we talking about here? Remember we ar BORN equal. If we do something bad, that nullifies the condition of equality In right.

As for voting, do you honestly trust a convicted terrorist to make an informed decision? I don't want members of the Muslim Brotherhood holding public office in my country, do you?

[Southside]

That is very debatable, how about you make another thread about it so we won't clutter up George's?

What human rights are we talking about here? Remember we ar BORN equal. If we do something bad, that nullifies the condition of equality In right.

As for voting, do you honestly trust a convicted terrorist to make an informed decision? I don't want members of the Muslim Brotherhood holding public office in my country, do you?

Whats wrong with the Muslim brotherhood?

I'll make a thread on the whole Islamic terrorism topic in the next few days if I get around to it.

[Human]

You are sidetracking.

We are talking about people here who have been FOUND GUILTY of terrorism, not these people Guantanamo who haven't been charged. Stay on topic.

As for Austria and Switzerland, that is also irrelevant.



...says the communist.

Did anybody say anything about torture? I think he's more talking about being able to vote, being able to fly on an airline, that type of thing.



Yes it does, if you murder somebody are you a murderer? Of course you are!



Do you think they should be allowed to vote?
Do you think they should be allowed to fly?

I don't think that they'd be allowed to fly seeing as they would be imprisoned, so that is kind of invalid, but afterwards, if they were spared execution, then they probably shouldn't be allowed as it would be an obvious safety risk.

Should they be allowed to vote, yes, why not, it's not like the very low percentage of terrorists could influence an entire countries votes

[Walter Powers]

Whats wrong with the Muslim brotherhood?

I'll make a thread on the whole Islamic terrorism topic in the next few days if I get around to it.

What's wrong with the Muslim Brotherhood? Are you kidding me? They want theocracies!

[Vocabulous]

as soon as a terrorist becomes a terrorist, they revoke their license to be human. same goes for certain criminals

[tovaris]

...says the communist.


What is that suposed to mean?!


Did anybody say anything about torture? I think he's more talking about being able to vote, being able to fly on an airline, that type of thing.


YES!

I say yes. They deserve no rights.
We should have the right to torture and interrogate guilty individuals so we can extract as much information as possible. They should not have the right live a comfortable life. And once we are done extracting information, we should commence an immediate execution.


Yes it does, if you murder somebody are you a murderer? Of course you are!


Being FOUND GUILTY doesn't necesarely mean its true.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Yes.

Animals like Bin Laden and Al-Zawahiri should be shot on sight. They've killed thousands. They shouldn't be allowed to live, let alone enjoy human rights. Those that have already been captured, like Khail Sheikh Mohammed should spend the rest of their lives rotting in Gitmo.

I don't like the CIA's religious and racial profiling and the fact that they keep people who haven't even been charged as prisoners, but they've done a hell of a job bringing the people responsible for 9/11 to justice. Al Qaeda is a shadow of what is used to be, thanks to them. We've done a show of force, now it's time to get out of the Middle East before we make things worse.

[randomnessqueen]

i didnt realise one had to qualify to recieve human rights. theyre called human rights for a reason. to say someone should just nolonger be considered humans is just as bad as being a terrorist.

[Harry Smith]

That is very debatable, how about you make another thread about it so we won't clutter up George's?

What human rights are we talking about here? Remember we ar BORN equal. If we do something bad, that nullifies the condition of equality In right.

As for voting, do you honestly trust a convicted terrorist to make an informed decision? I don't want members of the Muslim Brotherhood holding public office in my country, do you?

The Impression I got from the OP that it was the right not to be tortured which is outlined in both the US Constitution and the universal declaration of human rights.

As long as the Muslim brotherhood member reaches the criteria to stand for public office then you can't stop him based on his religious or political belief. If he wins enough vote's to be in congress or a state level position then he has a right to be there.

The Term terrorist is also very vague, what do you define it as? You've got homeland security going over to people's house because they googled pressure cooker and backpacks. The US have funded terrorism around the globe, just look at operation mongoose.