Can't we all agree that underage sex is a bad idea?

[Walter Powers]

I wouldn't usually post something regarding this topic but I'm fed up with my fellow teenagers.

I decided to venture out a bit into the puberty 101 forums. Sorting the through the mess of gentalia sizes and people masturbating with their family (eww), I noticed a common theme: underage teens having sexual intercourse. I mean, there are tons and tons of 13 and 14 year olds on there who claim to have already had sex.

I just wanted to make sure that all of us over in ROTW understand that sex under 18 can have dire consequences, such as pregnancy or Sexually Transmitted Diseases. Ultimately, having sex at such a young age can put you in the adult world before your ready for it, and could set you up for a life of poverty. If we could eliminate teen pregnancy, it would help the world's economy a lot. I'm sick of reading about 13 year olds talking about having sex like it was nothing. COME ON PEOPLE!

Can we all agree that having sex before your an adult is a very bad idea? I understand if you've made that mistake because you got caught in the moment, but right now in your totally conscious state can't you agree it's a bad idea?

[heroboy]

Hey let people be whores and worry about you just let them fuck up there lives.you just do you

[Obsidian]

The age of consent in my state, and I think in most others, is 16. And I think that that's a decent age to start having sex, but only if you are fully educated on the risks and you know how to be responsible. I think that it should depend more on maturity rather than on age. There are some 16 years old who are far too immature to have sex yet, but I think there are others who could be mature and handle themselves responsibly. But I think that any age below 16 is too young.

[LouBerry]

I have sex with my boyfriend. I'm not an idiot, I know about my body, and I'm protecting myself better then most adults do.

Now, if you're like fifteen and you're having a lot of sex, that's not good. But if you're old enough to understand it, and to be able to take care of your body, and aren't stupid about it, sex isn't bad.

Teenage pregnancy? Bad. Baaaaad. Babies are bad. STD's are bad. I think that having a ton of sexual partners is bad. At least at our age. But there are so many ways to be smart about those things, and honestly, teenage pregnancy is easier to prevent then people make it out to be. Get on birth control, and make your partner wear a condom. Simple.

[CharlieHorse]

The age is just a number.
I know stupid, immature 20 year olds that get or get someone pregnant every 3 months.
And I know responsible, mature, 15 year olds that are in legitimate relationships and have safe sex.

It really depends on the person.

[tovaris]

Many claim.... being the keevords.
Besides diferent countris have diferent age of consent (i believe its 14 in Hungary) 16 here etc...
18 would be a bit hy in my opinion.

The age is just a number.
I know stupid, immature 20 year olds that get or get someone pregnant every 3 months.
And I know responsible, mature, 15 year olds that are in legitimate relationships and have safe sex.

It really depends on the person.
Agre conpletly

[Trace]

Just because someone has underage sex doesn't mean they aren't taking the necessary precautions to prevent stuff like pregnancy/STDs. And not everyone underage "sleeps around." -post edited. -Emerald Dream

[Bougainvillea]

No it wasn't a bad idea for me. And no it wasn't a mistake, because I was and still am responsible.

Don't just throw everyone into that category. Just because you think it's a bad IDE!doesnt mean it really just is for everyone.

[conniption]

16 does seem like an appropriate age, but there are also many other factors to consider when you think you're ready to have sex. Sex is a huge responsibility and I wouldn't suggest having sex if you're not fully aware of the consequences.

[britishboy]

I wouldn't usually post something regarding this topic but I'm fed up with my fellow teenagers.

I decided to venture out a bit into the puberty 101 forums. Sorting the through the mess of gentalia sizes and people masturbating with their family (eww), I noticed a common theme: underage teens having sexual intercourse. I mean, there are tons and tons of 13 and 14 year olds on there who claim to have already had sex.

I just wanted to make sure that all of us over in ROTW understand that sex under 18 can have dire consequences, such as pregnancy or Sexually Transmitted Diseases. Ultimately, having sex at such a young age can put you in the adult world before your ready for it, and could set you up for a life of poverty. If we could eliminate teen pregnancy, it would help the world's economy a lot. I'm sick of reading about 13 year olds talking about having sex like it was nothing. COME ON PEOPLE!

Can we all agree that having sex before your an adult is a very bad idea? I understand if you've made that mistake because you got caught in the moment, but right now in your totally conscious state can't you agree it's a bad idea?

yep I'm in agreement but I think if your ready knowledgeable its OK not great or anything but those claiming to have that much sex are either fake oe stupid whoes! and you dont need to tell the internet either!

[Ethan15]

I think underage sex is fine, they teach sex education from 10 years old in Guernsey. So by 14 there is not much you don't know how to prevent from happening.

[TheDeepestDepths]

Age 16 does seem to be the best number. I don't agree with 13 and 14 year olds having sex simply because they're not old enough for the potential consequences (pregnancy, stds). Even if they're very responsible something could go wrong - the condom could come off, tear, etc. And they're not old enough to deal with the consequences of that. Granted, neither are 16 year olds but they've reached an age where they should be able to have responsible sex.

I think I'm alone in this but I've never believed that sex was a big deal. If it's a big deal for you, then fine, attach any emotional connections to it that you like. It's always been 'just sex' to me. I've never believed you have to be in love or you have to be in a steady relationship. Personally, it's just something I do for fun.

[Harry Smith]

There's nothing wrong with underage sex as long as protection is used and both sides are ready and consenting.

sex under 18 can have dire consequences, such as pregnancy or Sexually Transmitted Diseases.

This isn't exclusive to people under 18, you make it sound like the moment your 18 your suddenly ready for adult hood, there are risk from sex no matter how old you are. You can't just tarnish everyone with the same brush- I know many couples as mentioned above who are under 18 yet engage in sexual intercourse because they're responsible.

There have always been teen pregnancies, you can't tell people when or when not to get pregnant

[TheBigUnit]

You do realize half the kids in that thread is lying about something haha, most of them speak out their fantasies about it and some do get banned

[Azunite]

I am completely neutral on underage sex but I must say those "masturbating with family / trying stuff with siblings" thing is I must say extremely disgusting.

[HAYES]

Well i agree with you, i dont think anyone needs to be having sex under 18, or while in school for that marter. If your in school sex shouldnt even be an option. You have better things to worry about like that paper that was due last class and the project you havent touched yet. Now im not saying that theyre arnt many kids who are responcable enough to have sex- but just becuase i can doesnt mean i should. I can jump off a bride but i shouldnt. And teenage pregnacy is 100%. Preventable. Not by using condoms or birth controll becuase even thise methods of contraceptives can fail- but by not having sex.

[Synyster Shadows]

While I agree with some of those who say that there are some responsible teens and some less responsible teens, I think people should try to hold off until 18 at the least, older for less responsible people. I'm not saying change the age of consent but rather people should choose to lose their virginity at a later age. As mentioned, there are health risks, such as STDs and pregnancy but there are also emotional effects:

For the study, the students completed surveys every six months between 9th and 10th grade about the consequences they experienced from sex.

Overall, the teens reported positive consequences -- such as pleasure, popularity, and stronger relationships.

But a sizeable percentage noted negative consequences such as feeling used, getting pregnant, contracting a sexually transmitted infection, or feeling bad about themselves.

Girls were more than twice as likely as boys to say they felt bad about themselves. Girls were also more than three times as likely to say they felt used as a result of having sex.

Seriously, just don't do it. If we could just get people to stop listening to the media so much or get the media to change how they project the effects of sex, that would probably make a huge difference.

[Jean Poutine]

First time I had sex, I was 21.

What I did at that age to protect myself, I would have not done any differently at 13-14.

Sex isn't about age, it's about maturity.

If you feel used, you weren't mature enough to get a partner you fully trusted did it with you, for you.
If you get pregnant or diseased, you weren't mature enough to take precautions or react to unforeseen complications.
If you feel bad about yourself, you weren't mature enough to understand the purpose of sex.

Tons of young teens are mature enough to have sex. Age is just a number, but it's the only guideline we have, no matter how imperfect, and it's better than nothing.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

First off, I'm under the impression that most of the people posting in the Puberty 101 forums ( especially those with less than 50 posts ) are lying and just begging for attention, which is why I stopped going there.

On topic:
Underage sex is usually a bad thing. The reasons why have already been posted by a few people above me. But there are also teens who are very responsible, mature and can take care of themselves. If the two people know what they're doing, I see no reason why it shouldn't happen.

I'm totally OK with people starting to have sex at 15 at the earliest. Doing anything before that is irrational and irresponsible in my opinion.

[Human]

I believe that underage sex is fine, as long as sufficient protection is used. I think 15 is probably the youngest you should, because before then you don't know enough about the real side of sex as you aren't mature enough.

[Jess]

...It's fine as long as protection is used...it isn't 100% effective but it's better than nothing...

[TheBigUnit]

First off, I'm under the impression that most of the people posting in the Puberty 101 forums ( especially those with less than 50 posts ) are lying and just begging for attention, which is why I stopped going.

Please just copy and paste what I posted earlier

[Walter Powers]

The age is just a number.
I know stupid, immature 20 year olds that get or get someone pregnant every 3 months.
And I know responsible, mature, 15 year olds that are in legitimate relationships and have safe sex.

It really depends on the person.

But even if they are responsible, they'res no getting rid of the risks. Condoms and birth aren't totally effective. There is no point to having sex at age 15, if you think it's okay at that age I wouldn't classify you as "responsible".

Most people would call me responsible. I'm 15. But that doesn't eliminate the risk of pregnancy and STDs.

Also, so you're aware, in I believe all American states sex is illegal under age 16, and it carries a significant penalty. Responsible people don't break laws like that.

Just because someone has underage sex doesn't mean they aren't taking the necessary precautions to prevent stuff like pregnancy/STDs. And not everyone underage "sleeps around." -post edited. -Emerald Dream

Even if you take all the precautions, there's still a significant risk involved. And you do realize by all the precautions, I mean including getting tested for STDs. How many underage people do you think would do that?

No it wasn't a bad idea for me. And no it wasn't a mistake, because I was and still am responsible.

Don't just throw everyone into that category. Just because you think it's a bad IDE!doesnt mean it really just is for everyone.

I don't mean to get too personal, but how old where you when you first did it?

Evidence tells us it's bad. If your a younger teen and you get your girlfriend pregnant, that's bad. If you get an STD that's also bad. Do you disagree?

I think underage sex is fine, they teach sex education from 10 years old in Guernsey. So by 14 there is not much you don't know how to prevent from happening.

If you properly understood a good sex Ed curriculum you would understand that underage sex is bad and always has risks. You can prevent some things, but you can't eliminate the risk. Plus, sex is just an unneeded distraction at that point in your life. You should be focusing on school.

There's nothing wrong with underage sex as long as protection is used and both sides are ready and consenting.



This isn't exclusive to people under 18, you make it sound like the moment your 18 your suddenly ready for adult hood, there are risk from sex no matter how old you are. You can't just tarnish everyone with the same brush- I know many couples as mentioned above who are under 18 yet engage in sexual intercourse because they're responsible.

There have always been teen pregnancies, you can't tell people when or when not to get pregnant

It's true that you aren't suddenly responsible when you become 18. But before then, the consequences of sex could have an effect on your entire life.

Protection doesn't eliminate the risk of getting an STD or pregnancy. Man, for a help and advice moderator, you sure don't know much about this topic!

There have always been teen pregnancies, you can't tell people when or when not to get pregnant

Wait, do you not think teen pregnancy is a bad thing?

You can condemn underage sex and make it less of a part of the culture. I would hope that's what you do in the help and advice forums.

While I agree with some of those who say that there are some responsible teens and some less responsible teens, I think people should try to hold off until 18 at the least, older for less responsible people. I'm not saying change the age of consent but rather people should choose to lose their virginity at a later age. As mentioned, there are health risks, such as STDs and pregnancy but there are also emotional effects:



Seriously, just don't do it. If we could just get people to stop listening to the media so much or get the media to change how they project the effects of sex, that would probably make a huge difference.

I totally agree, man! Excellent post!

First time I had sex, I was 21.

What I did at that age to protect myself, I would have not done any differently at 13-14.

Sex isn't about age, it's about maturity.

If you feel used, you weren't mature enough to get a partner you fully trusted did it with you, for you.
If you get pregnant or diseased, you weren't mature enough to take precautions or react to unforeseen complications.
If you feel bad about yourself, you weren't mature enough to understand the purpose of sex.

Tons of young teens are mature enough to have sex. Age is just a number, but it's the only guideline we have, no matter how imperfect, and it's better than nothing.

As I said earlier regardless of how mature you are, you can't eliminate the risks.

A truly mature teen would understand this and hold off. That's why you should wait until you're an adult.

I believe that underage sex is fine, as long as sufficient protection is used. I think 15 is probably the youngest you should, because before then you don't know enough about the real side of sex as you aren't mature enough.

Again, in America sex under 16 is illegal, so 15 would be a bad idea.

But more importantly, regardless of how much protection is used, you can't eliminate the risks. And those risks are much greater as a teen.


...It's fine as long as protection is used...it isn't 100% effective but it's better than nothing...

Better then nothing...that doesn't sound very safe! Why do you think it's fine? Do you think it's okay for a 14 year old to have sex?

Well i agree with you, i dont think anyone needs to be having sex under 18, or while in school for that marter. If your in school sex shouldnt even be an option. You have better things to worry about like that paper that was due last class and the project you havent touched yet. Now im not saying that theyre arnt many kids who are responcable enough to have sex- but just becuase i can doesnt mean i should. I can jump off a bride but i shouldnt. And teenage pregnacy is 100%. Preventable. Not by using condoms or birth controll becuase even thise methods of contraceptives can fail- but by not having sex.

I 100% agree. Great post. Oh, and welcome to the forums!
yep I'm in agreement but I think if your ready knowledgeable its OK not great or anything but those claiming to have that much sex are either fake oe stupid whoes! and you dont need to tell the internet either!

Yeah they probably are!

I mostly agree Jack however I do want to point out that no matter how knowledgable/mature you are you can't eliminate the risk.

[Korashk]

I just wanted to make sure that all of us over in ROTW understand that sex under 18 can have dire consequences, such as pregnancy or Sexually Transmitted Diseases.
Those are potential consequences of all sex, not underage sex.

If we could eliminate teen pregnancy, it would help the world's economy a lot.
Teen pregnancy in America is down by 43% since 1990. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/01/most-americans-think-teen-pregnancy-is-getting-worse-most-americans-are-wrong/)

Can we all agree that having sex before your an adult is a very bad idea?
Nope. There's absolutely nothing wrong with consensual sex in any context.

[CharlieHorse]

But even if they are responsible, they'res no getting rid of the risks. Condoms and birth aren't totally effective. There is no point to having sex at age 15, if you think it's okay at that age I wouldn't classify you as "responsible".

Most people would call me responsible. I'm 15. But that doesn't eliminate the risk of pregnancy and STDs.

Also, so you're aware, in I believe all American states sex is illegal under age 16, and it carries a significant penalty. Responsible people don't break laws like that.



Even if you take all the precautions, there's still a significant risk involved. And you do realize by all the precautions, I mean including getting tested for STDs. How many underage people do you think would do that?



I don't mean to get too personal, but how old where you when you first did it?

Evidence tells us it's bad. If your a younger teen and you get your girlfriend pregnant, that's bad. If you get an STD that's also bad. Do you disagree?



If you properly understood a good sex Ed curriculum you would understand that underage sex is bad and always has risks. You can prevent some things, but you can't eliminate the risk. Plus, sex is just an unneeded distraction at that point in your life. You should be focusing on school.



It's true that you aren't suddenly responsible when you become 18. But before then, the consequences of sex could have an effect on your entire life.

Protection doesn't eliminate the risk of getting an STD or pregnancy. Man, for a help and advice moderator, you sure don't know much about this topic!



Wait, do you not think teen pregnancy is a bad thing?

You can condemn underage sex and make it less of a part of the culture. I would hope that's what your help and advice forums.



I totally agree, man! Excellent post!



As I said earlier regardless of how mature you are, you can't eliminate the risks.

A truly mature teen would understand this and hold off. That's why you should wait until you're an adult.



Again, in America sex under 16 is illegal, so 15 would be a bad idea.

But more importantly, regardless of how much protection is used, you can't eliminate the risks. And those risks are much greater as a teen.




Better then nothing...that doesn't sound very safe! Why do you think it's fine? Do you think it's okay for a 14 year old to have sex?



I 100% agree. Great post. Oh, and welcome to the forums!


Yeah they probably are!

I mostly agree Jack however I do want to point out that no matter how knowledgable/mature you are you can't eliminate the risk.

I could go ahead and argue, but honestly, I don't give a fudge why you think that there's an age where romantic embrace and sexual activity is "legal".
I'll do what I want, and I'll do it so that it only does me, and my partner good, and so that it doesn't do bad to anyone else. If you have a problem with making only good in the world, then you should rethink your priorities in life.

[Laquifa]

Nope. I'm going to be honest, I had sex for the first time at 13. I was responsible and protected myself so that I didn't contract anything from my partner that could be detrimental to my health. While it technically was under the age of consent, would I change it? No. I don't feel like it's a bad idea because once you connect with someone like that, everything changes, and you see things completely different. Making teenage sex (13-17) illegal may very well violate one's "pursuit of happiness", if it could be applied in this sense. Just because other members of my age group are not mature enough to protect themselves doesn't mean you should punish everyone in that age group. Also, how would that law be enforced if RESPONSIBLE teens protected themselves and nothing came out of it except two pleased teens? I highly doubt anyone would know, thereby making it as unenforceable as the sodomy laws that exist here.

By the way, how on Earth is the risk for something greater between a 17 year old and an 18 year old? The only difference may be a few months, but it's not like the risk for contracting an STD (or getting pregnant, for girls) is higher when a person is under 18.

[Bougainvillea]

I don't mean to get too personal, but how old where you when you first did it?

Evidence tells us it's bad. If your a younger teen and you get your girlfriend pregnant, that's bad. If you get an STD that's also bad. Do you disagree?

I was 16 when I lost my virginity. Of course I agree that getting an STD and becoming a teen parent is bad. Like you said there are risks, and me and my girlfriend (who's now my wife) accepted that risk, and took a chance. We were responsible about it (because that's possible). Condoms and birth control always.

Sure yeah, not always 100% effective in the books. But they were for us. Because we didnt skip out on it once just 'cause. If it happens to someone else, too bad for them. They took the chance, and if they weren't responsible then that's what happens.


Having sex before you're 18 can have really shitty consequences, but regardless its going to happen. It's best not to just classify it as "bad" because its very possible that people can make responsible decisions like using a condom, and birth control.

[PinkFloyd]

Everyone's different. Some people mature faster than others. I think that if two underage teenagers feel like they're ready, then they are ready. Someone that isn't them can't tell them they aren't ready for something as personal as sex.

I'm taking this so seriously because I myself had sex with a condom on my 14th birthday with a girl I have known now for 13 years of my life. Was this just in the heat of the moment? No, we had been planning it and talking through it with each other for months before we did it.

Am I worse off because I had sex when I and my partner were both physically and mentally ready? No. No I am not. I do agree that the bragging thing on this site is a bit annoying, but come on man... It's ultimately the couples' decision whether or not they are ready for sex.

We learned to accept the risks and just take the chance because we wanted to take things to the next level. Our relationship is still going strong. October 12th is our 3 year.

[Harry Smith]

It's true that you aren't suddenly responsible when you become 18. But before then, the consequences of sex could have an effect on your entire life.

Protection doesn't eliminate the risk of getting an STD or pregnancy. Man, for a help and advice moderator, you sure don't know much about this topic!

I never said they eliminate the risk,all you can do is ask your partner if they have any pre-existing STDs and wear a condom, there is nothing more you can physically, I think condoms have a 93% chance of preventing pregancy, from the sounds of it you want every to keep away from sex until they're magically 18 which would just not work. It also depends what type of sexual contact your having because I know that something like oral has much more of a risk.

So no from this we've shown not everyone agrees with you about underage sex

[teen.jpg]

Not exactly. Not if you're responsible.

[laurakoller0815]

each person should know what he/her doing. its always important to think about before doint it.

[Stronk Serb]

I am neutral. In Serbia which has population of almost 7 million people, there were only a dozen teen pregnancies in the last years, of which some got turned into a scandal. Sex where both are under the age of 18 is punishable as rape by the law (for the guy), so if the girl's parents report you, you (or your parents if you are a minor when reported) will be charged for rape. But children should educate themselves and use protection not just go around and have sex with a different partner every month. They should think about the consequences.

[Bougainvillea]

I am neutral. In Serbia which has population of almost 7 million people, there were only a dozen teen pregnancies in the last years, of which some got turned into a scandal. Sex where both are under the age of 18 is punishable as rape by the law (for the guy), so if the girl's parents report you, you (or your parents if you are a minor when reported) will be charged for rape. But children should educate themselves and use protection not just go around and have sex with a different partner every month. They should think about the consequences.

That's a really shitty law.

Man... I'd hate to piss a girl off there.


UGH THAT MAKES ME SO MAD. I guess if I were to get falsely accused of rape because she decided to be a bitch I would rape the shit out of her, and throw in a couple of good punches. Might as well if I'm going to get in trouble for it.

[saea97]

My boyfriend and I waited for 11 months, which is substantially more time (I'd imagine, anyway) than most 18+ couples. Neither of us regret a thing. That said, I don't know how valuable my testimony is compared to, say, couples who actually had a pregnancy risk.

Ultimately though, you'll find it pretty much impossible to justify such a blanket statement. Being mature and "ready" does not necessitate waiting until a fairly arbitrary age point is reached.

[Rina]

I personally don't think it's a "bad" thing, but I don't really like it. There's a reason why you're not considered an adult until you're 18, because most of the people under that age (whether you think you're mature or not) aren't the responsible people they make themselves out to be. If you mess up or if the condom breaks or the pill doesn't work, you are still a child and you could not raise one of your own--which would stick the parent with the responsibility or the child in the adoption system. Not saying this couldn't happen with those older couples, but essentially I would say the impact is greater when you're younger.

[britishboy]

it also should be noted that you cant financially support a child under the legal age

[1_21Guns]

I think it's only a bad idea if you make it one, people reach sexual maturity at different ages and yes some people do still have sex before they're ready to but there's plenty of people who still aren't mature enough to do it at the legal age, the only time it's wrong is if one person is considerable overage and the other is younger. Maturity doesn't always come with the number of years you've been on this earth, most of the time it comes through experience and sometimes you have to make mistakes and do stupid things to get the experience, at the end of the day you can't stop underage sex, although 13 year olds doing it does seem completely ridiculous to me but hey, that's just my two cents

And as far as supporting a child goes, why does it have to result in children? If we didn't treat it like such a taboo even if it is one perhaps more awareness and precaution would be taken if people under the age decide to have sex

[Sir Suomi]

Honestly, a lot of underage sexual intercourse happens "in the moment", as said, and most people can't help themselves. I mean, it's natural. But that does not mean I encourage having sex at a younger age, especially when the only reason they're doing it is just for the sexual part. Having sex is a special thing, and should not be done to the point where it becomes "casual". And you most definitely should be using birth control. No exceptions, unless you're attempting to get on MTV's "16 and Pregnant" show. And if that's your excuse, you don't deserve the right to have a child.

[Jean Poutine]

As I said earlier regardless of how mature you are, you can't eliminate the risks.

A truly mature teen would understand this and hold off. That's why you should wait until you're an adult.

That's like saying a truly mature teen would hold off driving even after he's got his license because there are risks.

[Harry Smith]

it also should be noted that you cant financially support a child under the legal age

What so when your 16 you suddenly stumble upon a pile of gold, heck the worst time to have a baby is probably when your in uni, due to the fact you have to pay for fees and rent. I don't understand this idea that the moment you reach the age of consent everything is perfect

[britishboy]

What so when your 16 you suddenly stumble upon a pile of gold, heck the worst time to have a baby is probably when your in uni, due to the fact you have to pay for fees and rent. I don't understand this idea that the moment you reach the age of consent everything is perfect

you have more power and responsibility then

[Harry Smith]

you have more power and responsibility then

I didn't, not one bit. I turned 16 last november, I woke up and went to school, I got the bus for free and I used some money my parents gave me to buy some food.

A 16 year old is not better at being a parent than a 15 year old, it's not about age- it's about character

[Trace]

you have more power and responsibility then

So when I turn 16 I'm going to instantly become more mature?

[britishboy]

I didn't, not one bit. I turned 16 last november, I woke up and went to school, I got the bus for free and I used some money my parents gave me to buy some food.

A 16 year old is not better at being a parent than a 15 year old, it's not about age- it's about character

but you have more legal power and can get a job

So when I turn 16 I'm going to instantly become more mature?

of course not

[Trace]

but you have more legal power and can get a job



of course not

That is what you implied.

[Harry Smith]

but you have more legal power and can get a job

Yes you can, but under the current laws you must be in school until your at least 17, so you would be able to work on the weekends with minimum wage which is what 4 quid, so at the most you'll be making 40 quid every weekend. Not that great is it?

The only legal power is the power to pay income taxes and the power to get married, that's going to help isn't it?

I know some people who were having sex when they were 15, they used protection and both people consented, there's not much more you can do. I know many adults who sleep around and don't use protection but the adults must be right mustn't they?

[britishboy]

That is what you implied.

no its really not, why are you always quoting me with nothing real to say?

Yes you can, but under the current laws you must be in school until your at least 17, so you would be able to work on the weekends with minimum wage which is what 4 quid, so at the most you'll be making 40 quid every weekend. Not that great is it?

The only legal power is the power to pay income taxes and the power to get married, that's going to help isn't it?

I know some people who were having sex when they were 15, they used protection and both people consented, there's not much more you can do. I know many adults who sleep around and don't use protection but the adults must be right mustn't they?

im not saying have a child then, I personally want children at around 25, everyone is different I just think it is better to have it as you get more legal power, over 18 would be ideal but you would also be busy with careers and clubs

[Trace]

no its really not, why are you always quoting me with nothing real to say?

I did say something. Was it fake?

[Obsidian]

While I agree with some of those who say that there are some responsible teens and some less responsible teens, I think people should try to hold off until 18 at the least, older for less responsible people. I'm not saying change the age of consent but rather people should choose to lose their virginity at a later age. As mentioned, there are health risks, such as STDs and pregnancy but there are also emotional effects:



Seriously, just don't do it. If we could just get people to stop listening to the media so much or get the media to change how they project the effects of sex, that would probably make a huge difference.

The more I think about it, I kind of agree with this. Having sex is more than just a physical thing. It can greatly affect your emotions too. I wish that there was more talk in the media or just in general about the emotional aspect of sex and not just the physical. Personally the idea of STD's or getting pregnant never scared me that much because I knew that if I was responsible about it I'd more than likely be okay. But if I had known that after losing my virginity the guy would hardly ever speak to me again, I wouldn't have had sex and I'd probably still be a virgin.

Everybody is educated on the importance of being responsible when it comes to sex, and how to protect yourself physically. But nobody ever talks about how it can affect you emotionally, and I wish that they did. Because nobody prepares you for the feelings of being used or for all the regret you could possibly feel from having sex at the wrong time or with the wrong person. You shouldn't just know how to protect yourself physically when it comes to sex; you should know how to protect your emotions as well. And if you're not prepared for the negative emotions that might result from having sex, then you're not ready. I know I wasn't.

[Harry Smith]

you have more power and responsibility then

it also should be noted that you cant financially support a child under the legal age

no its really not, why are you always quoting me with nothing real to say?

You have alluded to this magical realm of being 16 and suddenly holding all the cards for life

[britishboy]

I did say something. Was it fake?

what? was what fake?

[Trace]

You have alluded to this magical realm of being 16 and suddenly holding all the cards for life

That'd be my point as well.

[britishboy]

You have alluded to this magical realm of being 16 and suddenly holding all the cards for life

not at all

[Harry Smith]

not at all

Then why should it matter if you have sex at 15 or 16, as long as protection is worn and both people want it then I really can't see any harm in it

[britishboy]

Then why should it matter if you have sex at 15 or 16, as long as protection is worn and both people want it then I really can't see any harm in it

there is not, your responsible for yourself however I think people really should think things through, at 13,14 and 15 could you handle a kid? coulf you live with an abortion? if you got it all in your head, what can go wrong?

[Harry Smith]

there is not, your responsible for yourself however I think people really should think things through, at 13,14 and 15 could you handle a kid? coulf you live with an abortion? if you got it all in your head, what can go wrong?

I couldn't, but luckily when I have sex I don't tend to produce babies. You shouldn't avoid sex because of pregnancy fears, just wear a condom- it's not that hard is it. There is no perfect time to get pregnant

[britishboy]

I couldn't, but luckily when I have sex I don't tend to produce babies. You shouldn't avoid sex because of pregnancy fears, just wear a condom- it's not that hard is it. There is no perfect time to get pregnant

your very lucky! thats most teenagers worst nightmare and its impossible for you! condoms arent always effective so its important to be prepared and responsible and if you are, what have you got to lose?(apart from your virginity:D)

[Camazotz]

Can't we all agree that underage sex is a bad idea?

No, I don't agree. Unsafe, irresponsible sex is a bad idea. Age is just a number; an extraordinarily responsible, respectful fifteen year old deserves to have safe sex more than a stupid, unsafe twenty-eight year old.

[Walter Powers]

First I'd like to say I find it ironic how britishboy and I, 14 and 15 years old respectively, are telling 16+ year olds they should have waited to have sex!

Those are potential consequences of all sex, not underage sex.


Teen pregnancy in America is down by 43% since 1990. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/01/most-americans-think-teen-pregnancy-is-getting-worse-most-americans-are-wrong/)


Nope. There's absolutely nothing wrong with consensual sex in any context.

In ANY context? So you'd be completely okay if you had kids someday for them to be having sex at ANY age, as long as they're sexual partner agrees? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

I could go ahead and argue, but honestly, I don't give a fudge why you think that there's an age where romantic embrace and sexual activity is "legal".
I'll do what I want, and I'll do it so that it only does me, and my partner good, and so that it doesn't do bad to anyone else. If you have a problem with making only good in the world, then you should rethink your priorities in life.

Rethink my priorities in life? What? My life's in order, straight As and all of it. I'm just sick of reading these stories about completely negligent people having sex at 13, knowing I'm gonna be paying for their food stamps!

The only thing you gain from sex at this point in your life is pleasure. It's an unneeded distraction from the things that really matter, like school.

Do you really think sex "makes only good" in the world? Try telling that to the millions of people with HIV!

Nope. I'm going to be honest, I had sex for the first time at 13. I was responsible and protected myself so that I didn't contract anything from my partner that could be detrimental to my health. While it technically was under the age of consent, would I change it? No. I don't feel like it's a bad idea because once you connect with someone like that, everything changes, and you see things completely different. Making teenage sex (13-17) illegal may very well violate one's "pursuit of happiness", if it could be applied in this sense. Just because other members of my age group are not mature enough to protect themselves doesn't mean you should punish everyone in that age group. Also, how would that law be enforced if RESPONSIBLE teens protected themselves and nothing came out of it except two pleased teens? I highly doubt anyone would know, thereby making it as unenforceable as the sodomy laws that exist here.

By the way, how on Earth is the risk for something greater between a 17 year old and an 18 year old? The only difference may be a few months, but it's not like the risk for contracting an STD (or getting pregnant, for girls) is higher when a person is under 18.

First of all, making sex of minors illegal does not violate the "pursuit of happiness". That's a bunch of bologna! You still have a chance to have sex when your older, it's not taking away any of your rights! By that logic we should make it legal for teenagers to drink alcohol!

And again, no method of protection is foolproof, and unless these teens are getting tested themselves for STDs before going at it, they aren't doing everything they can to protect themselves! How many teens do you think do that? Maybe one in a hundred thousand, as a conservative estimate?

The point isn't that you suddenly become more mature at age 18. The point is that that's the MINIMUM age that most people could really handle it to reduce the risk pregnancy/STDs as much as possible, and should they have the misfortune of either of those things happening to them, the consequence will be less. They won't not graduate high school because of them.

And I'd like to see the data that says that teens are just as likely as the rest of the population to get an STD? It COULD be true, but I really doubt it.

I was 16 when I lost my virginity. Of course I agree that getting an STD and becoming a teen parent is bad. Like you said there are risks, and me and my girlfriend (who's now my wife) accepted that risk, and took a chance. We were responsible about it (because that's possible). Condoms and birth control always.

Sure yeah, not always 100% effective in the books. But they were for us. Because we didnt skip out on it once just 'cause. If it happens to someone else, too bad for them. They took the chance, and if they weren't responsible then that's what happens.


Having sex before you're 18 can have really shitty consequences, but regardless its going to happen. It's best not to just classify it as "bad" because its very possible that people can make responsible decisions like using a condom, and birth control.

It's not a guranteed "gonna happen" before age 18. It really isn't. I certainly don't plan on doing it, call me weird by I value a big house, nice car, hot wife, kids and a good life much more then 20 minutes of pleasure as a 15 year old!

Like I said, truly responsible people would know how stupid it is to have sex at 13!

Everyone's different. Some people mature faster than others. I think that if two underage teenagers feel like they're ready, then they are ready. Someone that isn't them can't tell them they aren't ready for something as personal as sex.

I'm taking this so seriously because I myself had sex with a condom on my 14th birthday with a girl I have known now for 13 years of my life. Was this just in the heat of the moment? No, we had been planning it and talking through it with each other for months before we did it.

Am I worse off because I had sex when I and my partner were both physically and mentally ready? No. No I am not. I do agree that the bragging thing on this site is a bit annoying, but come on man... It's ultimately the couples' decision whether or not they are ready for sex.

We learned to accept the risks and just take the chance because we wanted to take things to the next level. Our relationship is still going strong. October 12th is our 3 year.

underage teenagers feel like they're ready, then they are ready

Since when do teenagers know much about making smart decisions? They are the worst age demographic on that front, that's why they should wait until they're out of that demographic to make the decision.

We learned to accept the risks

That's not necessarily a good thing!

I never said they eliminate the risk,all you can do is ask your partner if they have any pre-existing STDs and wear a condom, there is nothing more you can physically, I think condoms have a 93% chance of preventing pregancy, from the sounds of it you want every to keep away from sex until they're magically 18 which would just not work. It also depends what type of sexual contact your having because I know that something like oral has much more of a risk.

So no from this we've shown not everyone agrees with you about underage sex

Most teens who have an STD don't know they do, they likely could just be a carrier and so they wouldn't know. It isn't as simple as asking your partner "hey, just checking you don't have an STD right?" You need to get tested. How many teens do you think would do that?

I think 18 is a good guideline minimum age. Just like 18 is the minimum age to smoke. You think underage smoking is okay, as long as the person is "responsible", too?

I am neutral. In Serbia which has population of almost 7 million people, there were only a dozen teen pregnancies in the last years, of which some got turned into a scandal. Sex where both are under the age of 18 is punishable as rape by the law (for the guy), so if the girl's parents report you, you (or your parents if you are a minor when reported) will be charged for rape. But children should educate themselves and use protection not just go around and have sex with a different partner every month. They should think about the consequences.

Wow that law sure is sexist, the guy is a rapist but but the girl is considered a victim of rape? Why does the law assume that it's guy is at fault. Serbia must be stuck in the 18th century!

My boyfriend and I waited for 11 months, which is substantially more time (I'd imagine, anyway) than most 18+ couples. Neither of us regret a thing. That said, I don't know how valuable my testimony is compared to, say, couples who actually had a pregnancy risk.

Ultimately though, you'll find it pretty much impossible to justify such a blanket statement. Being mature and "ready" does not necessitate waiting until a fairly arbitrary age point is reached.

It's best to err on the side of caution, though, it can't hurt can it? And as I mentioned before, it's also about what your risking at that point in your life, namely, your diploma.

I think it's only a bad idea if you make it one, people reach sexual maturity at different ages and yes some people do still have sex before they're ready to but there's plenty of people who still aren't mature enough to do it at the legal age, the only time it's wrong is if one person is considerable overage and the other is younger. Maturity doesn't always come with the number of years you've been on this earth, most of the time it comes through experience and sometimes you have to make mistakes and do stupid things to get the experience, at the end of the day you can't stop underage sex, although 13 year olds doing it does seem completely ridiculous to me but hey, that's just my two cents

And as far as supporting a child goes, why does it have to result in children? If we didn't treat it like such a taboo even if it is one perhaps more awareness and precaution would be taken if people under the age decide to have sex

Regardless of how much protection is used, there is still a risk of pregnancy, whether you want it to or not. So it is important underage sex remains taboo, as can result in children, whether your want them or not.

That's like saying a truly mature teen would hold off driving even after he's got his license because there are risks.

Okay this is a terrible analogy.

You aren't certified to have sex safely. You are however certified to drive safely. Also, the risks of sex are oftentimes much greater then those of driving. Finally, the only advantage of having sex at that point in your life is pleasure. Driving actually is productive; it get's you too school and work.

So when I turn 16 I'm going to instantly become more mature?

No, however some think it's a good minimum guideline age for it to be okay. I would say 18 is more like it, then your through high school and aren't forcing a child upon your parents of something goes wrong.

No, I don't agree. Unsafe, irresponsible sex is a bad idea. Age is just a number; an extraordinarily responsible, respectful fifteen year old deserves to have safe sex more than a stupid, unsafe twenty-eight year old.
Yes, but the problem with that is that there's no measurement whatsoever if they're ready. You might as well be cautious and wait until 18, if you tell people it's okay to have sex at 15 if your responsible do you no how many of them will do it because they think they're responsible and they're not? Like most of them!

At this point in our lives we need to focus on schoolwork, not sex. It's a distraction.

[Trace]

Well then I'm proud to say I don't have to worry about kids while I'm having sex with my boyfriend.

Of course given I get one before I magically become of mature age. Because I'll be less susceptible to STDs.. Or at least it's implied that age matters even when a condom is involved.

[CharlieHorse]

To mister Walter Powers, please reread my post and get the context and subjects correct in my statement. Your debating skills are terrible if you confuse what I communicated clearly.

Just a general tip for you.


peace __ im out

[PinkFloyd]

First I'd like to say I find it ironic how britishboy and I, 14 and 15 years old respectively, are telling 16+ year olds they should have waited to have sex!



In ANY context? So you'd be completely okay if you had kids someday for them to be having sex at ANY age, as long as they're sexual partner agrees? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???



Rethink my priorities in life? What? My life's in order, straight As and all of it. I'm just sick of reading these stories about completely negligent people having sex at 13, knowing I'm gonna be paying for their food stamps!

The only thing you gain from sex at this point in your life is pleasure. It's an unneeded distraction from the things that really matter, like school.

Do you really think sex "makes only good" in the world? Try telling that to the millions of people with HIV!



First of all, making sex of minors illegal does not violate the "pursuit of happiness". That's a bunch of bologna! You still have a chance to have sex when your older, it's not taking away any of your rights! By that logic we should make it legal for teenagers to drink alcohol!

And again, no method of protection is foolproof, and unless these teens are getting tested themselves for STDs before going at it, they aren't doing everything they can to protect themselves! How many teens do you think do that? Maybe one in a hundred thousand, as a conservative estimate?

The point isn't that you suddenly become more mature at age 18. The point is that that's the MINIMUM age that most people could really handle it to reduce the risk pregnancy/STDs as much as possible, and should they have the misfortune of either of those things happening to them, the consequence will be less. They won't not graduate high school because of them.

And I'd like to see the data that says that teens are just as likely as the rest of the population to get an STD? It COULD be true, but I really doubt it.



It's not a guranteed "gonna happen" before age 18. It really isn't. I certainly don't plan on doing it, call me weird by I value a big house, nice car, hot wife, kids and a good life much more then 20 minutes of pleasure as a 15 year old!

Like I said, truly responsible people would know how stupid it is to have sex at 13!





Since when do teenagers know much about making smart decisions? They are the worst age demographic on that front, that's why they should wait until they're out of that demographic to make the decision.



That's not necessarily a good thing!



Most teens who have an STD don't know they do, they likely could just be a carrier and so they wouldn't know. It isn't as simple as asking your partner "hey, just checking you don't have an STD right?" You need to get tested. How many teens do you think would do that?

I think 18 is a good guideline minimum age. Just like 18 is the minimum age to smoke. You think underage smoking is okay, as long as the person is "responsible", too?



Wow that law sure is sexist, the guy is a rapist but but the girl is considered a victim of rape? Why does the law assume that it's guy is at fault. Serbia must be stuck in the 18th century!



It's best to err on the side of caution, though, it can't hurt can it? And as I mentioned before, it's also about what your risking at that point in your life, namely, your diploma.



Regardless of how much protection is used, there is still a risk of pregnancy, whether you want it to or not. So it is important underage sex remains taboo, as can result in children, whether your want them or not.



Okay this is a terrible analogy.

You aren't certified to have sex safely. You are however certified to drive safely. Also, the risks of sex are oftentimes much greater then those of driving. Finally, the only advantage of having sex at that point in your life is pleasure. Driving actually is productive; it get's you too school and work.



No, however some think it's a good minimum guideline age for it to be okay. I would say 18 is more like it, then your through high school and aren't forcing a child upon your parents of something goes wrong.


Yes, but the problem with that is that there's no measurement whatsoever if they're ready. You might as well be cautious and wait until 18, if you tell people it's okay to have sex at 15 if your responsible do you no how many of them will do it because they think they're responsible and they're not? Like most of them!

At this point in our lives we need to focus on schoolwork, not sex. It's a distraction.

Okay man, Whatever. I don't regret our decision. It wasn't just random sex between to horny teenagers. That was like a tenth of why we did it. It made us closer than ever. There were no negative impacts whatsoever. Let's just agree to disagree.

[Bougainvillea]

First I'd like to say I find it ironic how britishboy and I, 14 and 15 years old respectively, are telling 16+ year olds they should have waited to have sex!


It's not a guranteed "gonna happen" before age 18. It really isn't. I certainly don't plan on doing it, call me weird by I value a big house, nice car, hot wife, kids and a good life much more then 20 minutes of pleasure as a 15 year old!

Like I said, truly responsible people would know how stupid it is to have sex at 13.



Wow good for you guys.

And good for you for making that decision for yourself. I considered myself ready, and was aware of the consequences that would come with it if I wasn't responsible.

It's a decision, and granted not a very smart one, but things happen. And you're either ready for them, or not.

There really isn't a point debating. Because its just something that happens or doesn't. I don't know why I can't get what I want to say out right now, but my point is its a decision amongst two people, and if you don't want to do it out of fear of pregnancy or STDs then great. Good for you for protecting yourself. Some people don't care, or they take a chance. It can be bad, or not. And in my case it wasn't. At that time in my life, I felt myself to be really mature, and to be honest I was, and still am. It didnt ruin my life, and pretty much everyone I know who has had sex before they were 18 don't have problems. The ones who are dealing with those shitty consequences are usually stupid. That or they weren't careful because they werent ready.

I dont see too much risk with sex anymore since its a normal, healthy part of my life now. But good for you for waiting. Just don't shoot down everyone who did it and say "that was a bad decision" because until you know them, you can never really tell.

And for the record, I do have a hot wife, a nice house, and a nice car. But that's another story.

[Stronk Serb]

[B]
Wow that law sure is sexist, the guy is a rapist but but the girl is considered a victim of rape? Why does the law assume that it's guy is at fault. Serbia must be stuck in the 18th century!

It doesn't even matter. The closest age of you having sex is probably 18-22. In our society we do not have sex as soon as we feel horny.

[1_21Guns]

Regardless of how much protection is used, there is still a risk of pregnancy, whether you want it to or not. So it is important underage sex remains taboo, as can result in children, whether your want them or not.

Well of course.. I was the product of a split condom I'm fully aware nothing is foolproof, and of course it shouldn't be encouraged, but what should be encouraged is proper precautions and information about it, you can't stop people doing it it's physically impossible, what are you going to do? Lock people up for having sex? Lock them up for choosing to do something with their own body? Yes it's stupid, yes people do it before they should, but people have this funny thing called free will, they can do it because they can and in my opinion the more you tell people not to do something the more they will. Sex is a taboo in itself in most places when it shouldn't be, it's nature. No I don't think 13/14 year olds should be at it (the legal age here is 16), but you can't control the actions of others, bad idea or not it clearly sounds like a good idea at the time to them and nobody is going to change that *shrug*

[STEALTHy]

The average American looses their virginity at the age of 16. I think sex under that age is iffy but past it floats the boat just fine for me. I just think kids should be getting smart and use condoms. Teenagers in other countries have no problem with getting those and the teen pregnancy is nothing. Compared to the USA though we bes poppings babys likes its Christmas.

[saea97]

[B]

It's best to err on the side of caution, though, it can't hurt can it? And as I mentioned before, it's also about what your risking at that point in your life, namely, your diploma.



I don't think the fact that it "can't hurt" to wait really applied in our situation. There was no pregnancy risk and it was both of our first times, so the STD risk was minimal (nonetheless, we used a condom). On the positive side, it massively strengthened our relationship and remains a very special thing (we've done it twice in an 18 month relationship). You have to appreciate that for some teens, quick as you may be to brand them immature, there are genuine positives.

As for my school life, having sex did not cause me to magically disregard working towards a future. I still know that that's the most important thing, but teens are capable of having extra components to their life, like sex. If anything, it may have eased my hormones and allowed me to concentrate more. :P It's "results day" over here in two weeks, and I'm not worried.

[Laquifa]

First of all, making sex of minors illegal does not violate the "pursuit of happiness". That's a bunch of bologna! You still have a chance to have sex when your older, it's not taking away any of your rights! By that logic we should make it legal for teenagers to drink alcohol!

There is a reason I never want to argue with you. No it's not because I don't have sufficient evidence (I was on the debate team for three years, I know how to pull my evidence and I can reformulate my evidence with citations if you want), it's because you refuse to listen to, respect, and see the validity in anyone's argument that doesn't agree with you. I can respect your feel that we all should wait to have sex until the magical age of 18, where EVERYTHING gets SOOO much better, but I do not agree with it because you're trying to regulate people that have done absolutely nothing wrong, even if they did not use protection. Accidents happen, and you shouldn't chastise people that make mistakes. I KNOW you're not perfect, just like no one else on this planet was, is, or ever will be. I'm done here, I'm not dealing with this thread anymore.

[cheerbaby13]

if you are ready then you are ready

[Harry Smith]

First I'd like to say I find it ironic how britishboy and I, 14 and 15 years old respectively, are telling 16+ year olds they should have waited to have sex!

I think 18 is a good guideline minimum age. Just like 18 is the minimum age to smoke. You think underage smoking is okay, as long as the person is "responsible", too?

At this point in our lives we need to focus on schoolwork, not sex. It's a distraction.

I'm happy that the British Government disagrees with you, over here we can have sex at 16. But sure you must be right.

Smoking and sex are very different, smoking kills you directly by causing mutations of the lung, at worse you may get a back strain during sex.

I don't understand your whole crusade, people have sex, people enjoy sex and if they use protection who are you to tell them to stop. If it's not sex teens will be thinking about sports, cars, tv, drugs, smoking, xbox or many other popular teenage actives.

I've had 3 months of school after my exams, I haven't started my new A level courses so I don't have school work to be doing

[freakyindiangurl]

When you are ready to you are ready. as long as no one is forced or hurt and protection is used.

[randomnessqueen]

sounds like you just got out of public school sex ed.

people should wait to have sex, but if they dont they only cause personal problems.

[Ryhanna]

There's nothing wrong with it if you're responsible.

You could get a disease or wind up pregnant by having sex at any age. Sure, you might be financially and mentally/emotionally unprepared for a child, but if you're having sex, you'd likely know the risks. If you're willing to take the risks, you have to be willing to deal with the consequences. It's about maturity rather than age.

[RoseyCadaver]

You know, as long as both (or more) parties in the sexual activity are safe, and ready for sex I see no problem with it.

I'm also for public schools offering condoms, comprehensive sex education in health class, and people having consensual sex- but that's for another thread.

[Walter Powers]

Okay, I'm gonna have this thread closed. I may post a new thread similar but more difined regarding this topic in the future, but I don't know.

A lot of people brought this up, yes they're isn't really a point debating it. I was just sick of hearing stories about teens doing something as serious sex is and not giving a second thought about it. Thank you for your responses, and I hope everyones voice has been heard.

[Skyline]

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