NHS in USA?

[AlexanderTheGreat]

What are your opinions of an NHS equivalent in the USA?

(The NHS is a free health service funded by the government in the UK)

[britishboy]

nope, great for us but impractical to be applied to the USA

[EvanGr]

Even being a greek, I think that an american NHS would be very helpfull. At least the ones who are homeless or unemployed should deserve free health. As you may know, in 80's the greek government introduced the NHS, which was based on the british one. I think that if the greek doctors (in this case, unfortunately there are more corrupted individuals) wouldn't be such corrupt, then the whole system would be great. So yes I am all for!:yes:

[Walter Powers]

Even being a greek, I think that an american NHS would be very helpfull. At least the ones who are homeless or unemployed should deserve free health. As you may know, in 80's the greek government introduced the NHS, which was based on the british one. I think that if the greek doctors (in this case, unfortunately there are more corrupted individuals) wouldn't be such corrupt, then the whole system would be great. So yes I am all for!:yes:

No offense, but seriously, if you are arguing in the favor of a socialist porgram, why, of all nations would you bring up the GREEKS? Programs like this are killing that countries economy.

[britishboy]

No offense, but seriously, if you are arguing in the favor of a socialist porgram, why, of all nations would you bring up the GREEKS? Programs like this are killing that countries economy.

exactly this, also it taken years to build the NHS and was formed when Britain had real problems, considering how fragile modern economies are, the US dosen't need the multi billion pound monster, and thats just the cost in the UK!

[EvanGr]

First of all I AM A GREEK. And my opinion is that it is better to spend millions of euros on an NHS rather than needing to have a private insurance for a family or a single person. And this section is to express our personal opinion. If you don't agree then I don't have any problem and I like others' commends to my opinion but please c a l m d o w n.

[Harry Smith]

No offense, but seriously, if you are arguing in the favor of a socialist porgram, why, of all nations would you bring up the GREEKS? Programs like this are killing that countries economy.

It's a socialist program which allows anyone no matter their age or their condition to live. It's also a socialist program which provides a higher standard of medical care then the US one

exactly this, also it taken years to build the NHS and was formed when Britain had real problems, considering how fragile modern economies are, the US dosen't need the multi billion pound monster, and thats just the cost in the UK!

It didn't take years to build the NHS, it only took about 3 months to get the policy started. The US already has a multi billion pound monster that targets the poor

[Southside]

No offense, but seriously, if you are arguing in the favor of a socialist porgram, why, of all nations would you bring up the GREEKS? Programs like this are killing that countries economy.

Why do countries such as UK,Norway,Belgium,France that have "socialist" universal healthcare programs have higher ranked health systems than America?Please answer that for me..

It works, I dont know why your against a program that would give the homeless man on the street or the low income family access to healthcare systems...

[EvanGr]

That's my opinion too. And I can't understand why it is referred as a socialist/communist programm. It's one of the first things a state should introduce.

[Zach4110]

Why do countries such as UK,Norway,Belgium,France that have "socialist" universal healthcare programs have higher ranked health systems than America?Please answer that for me..

It works, I dont know why your against a program that would give the homeless man on the street or the low income family access to healthcare systems...

Overregulation over here in the US. It's gotten to the point where we have 12 different codes for injury from a duck.

[Stronk Serb]

That's my opinion too. And I can't understand why it is referred as a socialist/communist programm. It's one of the first things a state should introduce.

It was first implemented in socialist/communist countries, so it got branded too "red" to have in the United States. That's at least what our friend Walter here thinks.

[Harry Smith]

It was first implemented in socialist/communist countries, so it got branded too "red" to have in the United States. That's at least what our friend Walter here thinks.

It's a prime example of how the cold war brainwashed america. They've literally come to brand anything socialist bad, look at the Mccarthy trials- the Americans were happy to get rid of civil liberties because a couple of professors were socialists

[Stronk Serb]

It's a prime example of how the cold war brainwashed america. They've literally come to brand anything socialist bad, look at the Mccarthy trials- the Americans were happy to get rid of civil liberties because a couple of professors were socialists

And those socialist professors and students were not all radical pro-Soviets, many communist parties outside the Warsaw Pact had diferent viewpoints then the Soviet communist party. But I am still amazed that Walter dislikes universal healthcare, a healthy society is more productive and thus brings in more money, which in the book of capitalism is very good. Instead of paying for insurance policies, people will spemd money on trinkets, and thus bring more money to the state through taxes.

[Harry Smith]

And those socialist professors and students were not all radical pro-Soviets, many communist parties outside the Warsaw Pact had diferent viewpoints then the Soviet communist party. But I am still amazed that Walter dislikes universal healthcare, a healthy society is more productive and thus brings in more money, which in the book of capitalism is very good. Instead of paying for insurance policies, people will spemd money on trinkets, and thus bring more money to the state through taxes.

Exactly this, not only does it provide better healthcare but it doesn't restrict people. You hear about people how have payed insurance their whole life and then go to the doctors to be told that their insurance doesn't cover it.

It works for profit, medicine shouldn't be about making money for CEO's

[Stronk Serb]

No offense, but seriously, if you are arguing in the favor of a socialist porgram, why, of all nations would you bring up the GREEKS? Programs like this are killing that countries economy.


Norway, France, Sweden, Finland, the United Kingdom, they are doing very good with universal healthcare programs they have. It's not the problem in the program, but in the general corruption of all government institutions.

Exactly this, not only does it provide better healthcare but it doesn't restrict people. You hear about people how have payed insurance their whole life and then go to the doctors to be told that their insurance doesn't cover it.

It works for profit, medicine shouldn't be about making money for CEO's

Not to mention policies which do not cover some of the basic needs, and many services are overpriced. My friend who lives in the US said that for a simple surgical procedure his (his father's) insurance had to pay 90,000 dollars. That's almost 13 average annual salaries for doctors in Serbia.


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[EvanGr]

Not to mention policies which do not cover some of the basic needs, and many services are overpriced. My friend who lives in the US said that for a simple surgical procedure his (his father's) insurance had to pay 90,000 dollars. That's almost 13 average annual salaries for doctors in Serbia.

Both you and Harry are right to what are you saying. Personally I prefer a multi billion pound monster, this was the characterism of britishboy to the NHS, than owning insurances from companies. And that's because not all of us can afford it. So there are two options: To have a NHS and make the spendings that are essensial, so that each resident can enjoy free health and secondly not to have an NHS, make the individuals to have their own insurance, so that some people can make a lot of money and from the money that the state earns, the most would go to the companies. I firmly believe that the first one is the best option. It's better for the state to give money that are usefull rather than giving these money to a useless aim. You can call me a communist or whatever you want, but I don't care, because I am not and also because I believe, as most people do, the existense of a NHS is vital to the residents' everyday life.

[Stronk Serb]

No offense, but seriously, if you are arguing in the favor of a socialist porgram, why, of all nations would you bring up the GREEKS? Programs like this are killing that countries economy.


Medical aid is not something on which corporations should capitalize on. It should be available to everyone with highest possible standards. And the corruption is killing the economy of Greece, not the universal healthcare program.

[EvanGr]

Medical aid is not something on which corporations should capitalize on. It should be available to everyone with highest possible standards. And the corruption is killing the economy of Greece, not the universal healthcare program.


You are completely right. Especially, it's the political corruption, because there is a constant lending from the foreigners with exorbitant rates.

[Kasp]

I know that Americans find it hard to accept socialist ideas, but a state health care system needs to happen there.
If they can have state funded schools and Police Service, why not healthcare?

[gabzas331]

Btw, the USA still spends a higher % of its GDP on its healthcare system than Britain does. I don't know how but having an 'NHS' would actually cost less - then the Americans could go shoot a load more innocent civilians in the Middle Eastern 'War on Terror'.