Your Opinion on whats going on in Syria

[Party256]

What so you think should be done about it(intervention/non intervention, cooperation of middle eastern neighbors) , what do you think of president Bashar al-Assad , what do you think the future hold for the people in Syria.

[Emerald Dream]

I'm going to move this over here :)

VT Daily Chronicle :arrow: Ramblings of the Wise

[Walter Powers]

I think we should stay out of it unless Israel or another ally is threatened.

And I think Asaad looks a lot like Hitler, both figuratively and literally.

[Sir Suomi]

Let them deal with it. We've got our own problems to deal with. They started this. Let them finish. I'll be damned to see more U.S soldiers put into another damned Middle Eastern conflict.

[tovaris]

It is a civil war, a war inside the country betveen its people and should not be meddled in by foreighn powers.

[MrDaniel2K13]

There should only be Military Intervention if Asad used Chemical Weapons

[britishboy]

Let them deal with it. We've got our own problems to deal with. They started this. Let them finish. I'll be damned to see more U.S soldiers put into another damned Middle Eastern conflict.

I think we should stay out of it unless Israel or another ally is threatened.

And I think Asaad looks a lot like Hitler, both figuratively and literally.

agreed

[Left Now]

Syrian civil war is only for Syrians,they themselves will deal with it and no foreign intervention is allowed to happen.

[britishboy]

Syrian civil war is only for Syrians,they themselves will deal with it and no foreign intervention is allowed to happen.

exactly as long as it doesn't threaten us, why should we get involved, wasting billions and troops lives:)

[Left Now]

exactly as long as it doesn't threaten us, why should we get involved, wasting billions and troops lives:)

Not only billions of money,also a lot lives.

[Life's Like This]

The US must remove their involvment in the politics of the Arab world. Point.
They don't help, they just get things aggravated.
Though all countries must help the refugees in Jordan and Lebanon.

[Southside]

Stay out of it though we do need to provide humanitarian aid to the people in the refugee camps. No one asked America to be the world police all the time...

[Harry Smith]

Syrian civil war is only for Syrians,they themselves will deal with it and no foreign intervention is allowed to happen.

Then why is Iran training Assad's forces and providing him with weapons to kill civilans

[Kameraden]

Then why is Iran training Assad's forces and providing him with weapons to kill civilans

For the same reason we helped you against the Germans in WWI and WWII.

[Left Now]

Then why is Iran training Assad's forces and providing him with weapons to kill civilans

First of all,your reliable sources of news are just against IRI politics and completely biased,so as what logic says,they are not reliable.

Second,there is a complete Iranian group in Syria with the name of MEK which is a terrorist group and is helping Syrian rebels against Assad,so we will help Syria government against them,but not with gun and training their soldiers,with giving them information about main camps of MEK and Syrian rebels.

Third,CIA and MI.6 and MOSAD are helping rebels against Assad and US is supporting rebels with guns,so first of anything,CIA and US is doing the wrong thing,as a superpower and as a symbol of international laws.

CIA is training Syrian rebels in fight against Assad - CBS News Video

UK Minister: Don't Worry, Syrian Rebels Will Give Us The Guns Back After The War.


Fifth,more Palestinian Civilians died by Israel in Gaza and West Bank than in Syrian civil war and by Assad forces;While persons like you just supported them.

Sixth,even if there is any supporting by military from Iran to Assad,i am against it but as an ally,we can help him with information and medical aids.

[Southside]

Then why is Iran training Assad's forces and providing him with weapons to kill civilans

Why are there CIA teams on the ground in Syria? Why are Western weapons coming in by the plane load from the Gulf states, Western corperations, Western countries? Why are we secretly training rebel factions in Jordan? Why have I seen rebel videos with Western Anti-Tank systems? Dont be a hypocrite! It's a proxy war, both sides have blood on their hands, both of the sides are pretty shady, most of those rebel groups do in fact have radicals among their factions. If Assad does fall, it's going to be a mess like Iraq or Libya...

It's no good guys over there...

[Harry Smith]

First of all,your reliable sources of news are just against IRI politics and completely biased,so as what logic says,they are not reliable.

Second,there is a complete Iranian group in Syria with the name of MEK which is a terrorist group and is helping Syrian rebels against Assad,so we will help Syria government against them,but not with gun and training their soldiers,with giving them information about main camps of MEK and Syrian rebels.

Third,CIA and MI.6 and MOSAD are helping rebels against Assad and US is supporting rebels with guns,so first of anything,CIA and US is doing the wrong thing,as a superpower and as a symbol of international laws.


Fifth,more Palestinian Civilians died by Israel in Gaza and West Bank than in Syrian civil war and by Assad forces;While persons like you just supported them.

Sixth,even if there is any supporting by military from Iran to Assad,i am against it but as an ally,we can help him with information and medical aids.

We're not supporting a international leader who's committed war crimes are we, I've got unbiased sources with evidence but sure everyone knows that Iran are always honest about their military affairs.

[Left Now]

We're not supporting a international leader who's committed war crimes are we, I've got unbiased sources with evidence but sure everyone knows that Iran are always honest about their military affairs.

Israeli leaders are the great war criminals aren't they?But US and UK are supporting them.

1.Bombing civil areas
2.Massacring Palestinian refugees in camps
3.Using of white phosphor while it is forbidden
4.Building Jewish towns in West Bank while it is under rule of one of the Palestinian government and make Palestinians to leave their own lands...

*Yes,Israel is completely legal then because none of the things above is illegal,so UK and US are not wrong to support them.

~War crimes which happened in Syria since 2 years ago:

Assad's war crimes(supported by East outright): 37%
Rebels' war crimes(supported by West outright): 63%

Assad's army foreigners: 24%
Rebels' army foreigners: over 40% including Al-Qaeda,Salafit and Jihadist groups.

Democratically,better to side with Assad for now than Rebels right?Assad's ages are over,but it doesn't mean that west will once again come back to the area.

[Harry Smith]

Israeli leaders are the great war criminals aren't they?But US and UK are supporting them.

1.Bombing civil areas
2.Massacring Palestinian refugees in camps
3.Using of white phosphor while it is forbidden
4.Building Jewish towns in West Bank while it is under rule of one of the Palestinian government and make Palestinians to leave their own lands...

*Yes,Israel is completely legal then because none of the things above is illegal,so UK and US are not wrong to support them.

~War crimes which happened in Syria since 2 years ago:

Assad's war crimes(supported by East outright): 37%
Rebels' war crimes(supported by West outright): 63%

Assad's army foreigners: 24%
Rebels' army foreigners: over 40% including Al-Qaeda,Salafit and Jihadist groups.

Democratically,better to side with Assad for now than Rebels right?Assad's ages are over,but it doesn't mean that west will once again come back to the area.

Under international law the rebels have only committed civil offenses, Assad has been bombing civilians who simply want democracy. Assad has used chemical weapons on his people, he's broken the Hague convention numerous amounts of time

Iran is opposed to democracy isn't it?

Please don't even mention Israel, your own leader has called for a holocaust and denies that the ww2 holocaust happened. Israel has been in state of war for the last 50 years as a result of the other Arab countries

[Left Now]

Under international law the rebels have only committed civil offenses, Assad has been bombing civilians who simply want democracy. Assad has used chemical weapons on his people, he's broken the Hague convention numerous amounts of time

Iran is opposed to democracy isn't it?

Please don't even mention Israel, your own leader has called for a holocaust and denies that the ww2 holocaust happened. Israel has been in state of war for the last 50 years as a result of the other Arab countries

Please do not say what my leader has said while i can hear him better than you;It is not my problem that your media doesn't know Farsi good to translate his speeches in the correct way.

Second,these accusations are just accusations not truths;UN still hasn't said these rumors are right,only some agencies in UK,France(arch enemy of Syrians) and US claimed that Assad has used chemical weapons so your accusations are easily deniable.

I do not know what will you call heart eaters,seekers of democracy?What about head cutters,defenders of democracy?Experience showed me to not believe a country as a defender of democracy while it will overthrow a democratic government only for its own national interests,so do not tell me UK is a democracy defender;there is no doubt in that which UK even doesn't know what is democracy when its own national interests are in threat,like what happened in Iran.

However still UK is supporting a government which gained power by a coup and by overthrowing a people-elected president;I think you can understand which country i am talking about.

If you want to compare UK with Iran truly,your results will be something like this:

Iran services to democracy: 2/10
UK services to democracy: 2/20

[EternalSadness]

The US must remove their involvment in the politics of the Arab world. Point.
They don't help, they just get things aggravated.
Though all countries must help the refugees in Jordan and Lebanon.

That's good. I agree. The interventions of the US and European powers is destabilising and keeps things that way. Look at Egypt, I thought that was settled by intervention and the US friendly president but no, the people there were saying its bad and it's obvious when there is no tourism at the pyramids. Libya is unstable too now and terrorist groups were actually being helped by our intervention. I say let them do what they want, and potentially Assad in Syria is better than terrorist groups in power or such, even for the people I would say. In Syria there are chemical weapons too, and lets face it, that's bad news if it gets into unstable hands. Also, look at the cancer rates in Basra, Iraq, you can't say that the weapons the US uses have no side effects on the battlefield when cancer rates have skyrocketed for no apparent reason.

[Sugaree]

I think we should stay out of it unless Israel or another ally is threatened.

Lord forbid our pimp is ever threatened. Israel and the US don't need to be allies. It would be best of the United States stays OUT of the Middle East instead of interfering with it. If Israel gets wiped off the map, it isn't our problem (other than the fact that we would pretty much have wasted a couple billion dollars on them).

The situation in Syria is becoming more and more like the Rwanda genocide 20 years ago. This might be an almost identical situation that this generation is going to have to bear witness to, and that's sad. But there's nothing, figuratively, that we can do. We can send weapons to these rebels, but we know that there are many al-Qaeda members who are among their ranks. We can't risk giving weapons to an enemy like we did with the Zetas in Mexico.

On the other hand, I think we should stay out of it. We've been fucking with the Middle East for damn over 20 years and it's high time we left. They don't want us there, we have no true business to be there, and we shouldn't be wiping their asses with billions of dollars a year. It's wasteful, it's useless, and it should be a source of shame on any congressman or public official who supports it.

[Walter Powers]

Lord forbid our pimp is ever threatened. Israel and the US don't need to be allies. It would be best of the United States stays OUT of the Middle East instead of interfering with it. If Israel gets wiped off the map, it isn't our problem (other than the fact that we would pretty much have wasted a couple billion dollars on them).

The situation in Syria is becoming more and more like the Rwanda genocide 20 years ago. This might be an almost identical situation that this generation is going to have to bear witness to, and that's sad. But there's nothing, figuratively, that we can do. We can send weapons to these rebels, but we know that there are many al-Qaeda members who are among their ranks. We can't risk giving weapons to an enemy like we did with the Zetas in Mexico.

On the other hand, I think we should stay out of it. We've been fucking with the Middle East for damn over 20 years and it's high time we left. They don't want us there, we have no true business to be there, and we shouldn't be wiping their asses with billions of dollars a year. It's wasteful, it's useless, and it should be a source of shame on any congressman or public official who supports it.

See, the reason I think we still need a prescense there is for a wartime emergency. The Middle East is a very strategic region; it is home to lots of oil and many important waterways. Say we end up going to war with Russia for some reason. I'd much rather we have a prescene over there so the war is being fought in Israel or Kuwait, not Alaska or California!

And for the record, I don't support arming the rebels. Anybody who is allied with the people who caused 9/11 is not our friend.

[Harry Smith]

See, the reason I think we still need a prescense there is for a wartime emergency. The Middle East is a very strategic region; it is home to lots of oil and many important waterways. Say we end up going to war with Russia for some reason. I'd much rather we have a prescene over there so the war is being fought in Israel or Kuwait, not Alaska or California!

And for the record, I don't support arming the rebels. Anybody who is allied with the people who caused 9/11 is not our friend.

I seem to recall that America are very good friends with Pakistan, a country which has some very strong links to terrorism.

Why do Americans always assume that war with Russia is certain? Russia may have horrible domestic policies but that doesn't matter one bit- there are many pro western dictatorships or countries with numerous human rights abuse.

America already has a pretty big presence in the middle east, you've got Nato Bases in turkey and Italy allowing staging posts and you've got bases littered in Iraq, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia.

You shouldn't support Israel purely because it allows strategic advance

[Life's Like This]

See, the reason I think we still need a prescense there is for a wartime emergency. The Middle East is a very strategic region; it is home to lots of oil and many important waterways. Say we end up going to war with Russia for some reason. I'd much rather we have a prescene over there so the war is being fought in Israel or Kuwait, not Alaska or California!

And for the record, I don't support arming the rebels. Anybody who is allied with the people who caused 9/11 is not our friend.

So you would kill people in my country and destroy my homeland? The US has lots of oil, let them use it. Let each country benefit from its resources. Why should the US interfere with the countries supposedly to fight "autocracy" but in reality, to invade oils?

That's good. I agree. The interventions of the US and European powers is destabilising and keeps things that way. Look at Egypt, I thought that was settled by intervention and the US friendly president but no, the people there were saying its bad and it's obvious when there is no tourism at the pyramids. Libya is unstable too now and terrorist groups were actually being helped by our intervention. I say let them do what they want, and potentially Assad in Syria is better than terrorist groups in power or such, even for the people I would say. In Syria there are chemical weapons too, and lets face it, that's bad news if it gets into unstable hands. Also, look at the cancer rates in Basra, Iraq, you can't say that the weapons the US uses have no side effects on the battlefield when cancer rates have skyrocketed for no apparent reason.

Thank you for saying this! Even though he is a bad person, but I prefer Assad over masked terrorists raising the AL Quaeda flag.

The US is just pretending to make peace in every country of the middle East. They crave for our oils and petroleum.

-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[Southside]

See, the reason I think we still need a prescense there is for a wartime emergency. The Middle East is a very strategic region; it is home to lots of oil and many important waterways. Say we end up going to war with Russia for some reason. I'd much rather we have a prescene over there so the war is being fought in Israel or Kuwait, not Alaska or California!

And for the record, I don't support arming the rebels. Anybody who is allied with the people who caused 9/11 is not our friend.

Our foreign policy caused 9/11...

[TheBigUnit]

This war is equivalent to picking up a handful of shit and throwing it at a fan

[Harry Smith]

This war is equivalent to picking up a handful of shit and throwing it at a fan

Isn't all warfare like that?

[Stronk Serb]

Stay out of it. This has become a proxy war, and the sides waging it are using the rebels and Assad as tools and scapegoats.

[TheBigUnit]

Isn't all warfare like that?

True but its not clear cut at all and theres really no good guy

[Harry Smith]

True but its not clear cut at all and theres really no good guy

I think the good guys are the Syrian civilians who originally protested but ended up getting strafed by fighter planes

[TheBigUnit]

I think the good guys are the Syrian civilians who originally protested but ended up getting strafed by fighter planes

Harsh but most likely true