Both men AND women should be required to register for the draft.

[Walter Powers]

I know there's been a lot of debate about gender equality on here lately. Currently, only men have to register for the selective service system. Should World War III begin and the draft be required to save the country, only men would be called up. Whether or not you agree with the draft, this is totally blatant sexism and needs to be updated. Women should have to register for the Selective Service system, as well, for equalities sake. What do you think?

[Nomad_X]

I think if the US did reinstate the draft, the new lesgislation for it would no doubt make it for both men and women.

[tundravortex]

no we should only sign up when it becomes nessisary

[Adam17]

I disagree with the who selective service act but think they should have to sign up because after all the years where they fought to be in the armed forces they cant just pick the responsibilities that they want and dont want. It isn't fair at all that men are forced to do it and women are not.

[foxtrot.12]

i agree if we are to allow women into all branches of the military then there exists a certain amount of responsibility to answer to the same call as those men they so loudly proclaim they are equal to! power to all

[Gigablue]

While I disagree with the idea of a draft, I do think that as long as it exists it should be fair. Making only men sign up is just absurd.

[Korashk]

You don't fix an awful thing by making it worse.

[ovoxo23]

I know there's been a lot of debate about gender equality on here lately. Currently, only men have to register for the selective service system. Should World War III begin and the draft be required to save the country, only men would be called up. Whether or not you agree with the draft, this is totally blatant sexism and needs to be updated. Women should have to register for the Selective Service system, as well, for equalities sake. What do you think?

I'm all about gender equality, but there's some things that I think men should do that women shouldn't and vice-versa. Some girls really aren't made to do that kind of stuff and they have like periods and stuff like that they have to deal with that men don't. Again, I'm not sexist at all, but that's just what I think. I'm open to opinions though.

[TheDeepestDepths]

I was flicking through this and realised that no girls had replied. So here it is.

When you talk about drafting, you're talking about conscription, right? I think that if there isn't enough people to fight that they have to draft people then of course they should draft women as well.

I am all for absolute equality but on the other hand, there is a reason there are far less females than males in the army and that's because females are physically weaker and are less likely to pass the tests such as hand-to-hand combat. If you conscript females, they are more likely to die in duty than males are.

Someone mentioned periods and it's actually a valid point as quite a proportion of girls suffer fairly debilitating pain once a month. I know a girl who had it so bad she ended up in the A&E on the type of pain medication that they give to cancer patients. She has it particularly bad but the point still stand: what if a woman comes down with cramps in the line of duty? She's in danger herself and a liability to her fellow soldiers.

I don't know what the Selective Services are. Are they specifically American?

[britishboy]

I was flicking through this and realised that no girls had replied. So here it is.

When you talk about drafting, you're talking about conscription, right? I think that if there isn't enough people to fight that they have to draft people then of course they should draft women as well.

I am all for absolute equality but on the other hand, there is a reason there are far less females than males in the army and that's because females are physically weaker and are less likely to pass the tests such as hand-to-hand combat. If you conscript females, they are more likely to die in duty than males are.

Someone mentioned periods and it's actually a valid point as quite a proportion of girls suffer fairly debilitating pain once a month. I know a girl who had it so bad she ended up in the A&E on the type of pain medication that they give to cancer patients. She has it particularly bad but the point still stand: what if a woman comes down with cramps in the line of duty? She's in danger herself and a liability to her fellow soldiers.

I don't know what the Selective Services are. Are they specifically American?

if you want the benefits of being equal to men, you should have the drawbacks as well! sure no women in the special forces is a valid argument but theres nothing wrong with women on the front line.

why should women be givern all the good stuff when they coward out in times of war and leave men to deal with it?

there is few women in the forces because most prefer other jobs or to be housewifes, they dont want to be manly but tough luck, thats true equality

While I disagree with the idea of a draft, I do think that as long as it exists it should be fair. Making only men sign up is just absurd.

completely agree!

[ovoxo23]

I was flicking through this and realised that no girls had replied. So here it is.

When you talk about drafting, you're talking about conscription, right? I think that if there isn't enough people to fight that they have to draft people then of course they should draft women as well.

I am all for absolute equality but on the other hand, there is a reason there are far less females than males in the army and that's because females are physically weaker and are less likely to pass the tests such as hand-to-hand combat. If you conscript females, they are more likely to die in duty than males are.

Someone mentioned periods and it's actually a valid point as quite a proportion of girls suffer fairly debilitating pain once a month. I know a girl who had it so bad she ended up in the A&E on the type of pain medication that they give to cancer patients. She has it particularly bad but the point still stand: what if a woman comes down with cramps in the line of duty? She's in danger herself and a liability to her fellow soldiers.

I don't know what the Selective Services are. Are they specifically American?

Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with every word.

[Harry Smith]

why should women be givern all the good stuff when they coward out in times of war and leave men to deal with it?

there is few women in the forces because most prefer other jobs or to be housewifes, they dont want to be manly but tough luck, thats true equality

Women don't coward out of war, this once again just shows how stupid you are. Millions of women signed up to fight in the WRENS, WAAF and many other forces organizations during the war. I'm going to ignore your rather bigoted out of date ideas about being 'manly' to be in the armed forces.

Also the Draft when it was last used in the 1960's had a very high amount of men refusing to enter service based on the situation in vietnam. Women don't cower out of war any more than men do- grow up

[britishboy]

Women don't coward out of war, this once again just shows how stupid you are. Millions of women signed up to fight in the WRENS, WAAF and many other forces organizations during the war. I'm going to ignore your rather bigoted out of date ideas about being 'manly' to be in the armed forces.

Also the Draft when it was last used in the 1960's had a very high amount of men refusing to enter service based on the situation in vietnam. Women don't cower out of war any more than men do- grow up

okay then?... harry... fewer and fewer if your posts are reinvent or make sence, im ignoring you now, your embarrassing yourself

[Harry Smith]

okay then?... harry... fewer and fewer if your posts are reinvent or make sence, im ignoring you now, your embarrassing yourself

I'm embarrasing myself? Haven't you got a post to report? Sure ignoring a argument is the hallmark of intelligence isn't it, your a joke

You stated and to quote that

why should women be givern all the good stuff when they coward out in times of war

You stated that women get all the good stuff, this is very vague and shows your lack of debating skills. You also stated that women coward out in times of war, I stated that in both WW1 and WW2 millions of women served in the armed forces to support both the Axis and Allies. It's ignorant to believe that women cower out of warfare

[britishboy]

I'm embarrasing myself? Haven't you got a post to report? Sure ignoring a argument is the hallmark of intelligence isn't it, your a joke

You stated and to quote that



You stated that women get all the good stuff, this is very vague and shows your lack of debating skills. You also stated that women coward out in times of war, I stated that in both WW1 and WW2 millions of women served in the armed forces to support both the Axis and Allies. It's ignorant to believe that women cower out of warfare

it would be nice if you read the thread, the thread is about when conscription on military draft is in affect, should women be called up with the men?

my response was yes, for true equality women must get the good (money and respect) as well as the bad (war and tough jobs) do you see where im standing now?

[Jess]

I hate drafts, but yes women should also be required (I hope though no drafts, calling for both men and women, ever happens. I would die first thing -_-)

[TheDeepestDepths]

if you want the benefits of being equal to men, you should have the drawbacks as well! sure no women in the special forces is a valid argument but theres nothing wrong with women on the front line.

Read the post properly. You just focused on me saying why not and got immediately defensive about it without actually paying attention to what I was actually saying.

I was merely trying to point out both sides of the argument. I very clearly stated that women should be conscripted as well as men but I'm also pointing out how having conscripted women in the army could be a liability. Having and wanting absolute equality is wonderful but not at the cost of losing sight of the fact that men and women are different. And those differences are very important when talking about things like fighting in a war when your physical abilities have a big affect.

why should women be givern all the good stuff when they coward out in times of war and leave men to deal with it?

Having an actual reason for not joining the army is not "cowarding out". It's not wanting to put fellow soldiers in danger through your liability. "Given the good stuff" give an example of the "good stuff" women are privy to now.

there is few women in the forces because most prefer other jobs or to be housewifes, they dont want to be manly but tough luck, thats true equality

There's so much wrong with this. Your levels of ridiculousness have climbed so high, I'm not going to go near it.

[britishboy]

Read the post properly. You just focused on me saying why not and got immediately defensive about it without actually paying attention to what I was actually saying.

I was merely trying to point out both sides of the argument. I very clearly stated that women should be conscripted as well as men but I'm also pointing out how having conscripted women in the army could be a liability. Having and wanting absolute equality is wonderful but not at the cost of losing sight of the fact that men and women are different. And those differences are very important when talking about things like fighting in a war when your physical abilities have a big affect.



Having an actual reason for not joining the army is not "cowarding out". It's not wanting to put fellow soldiers in danger through your liability. "Given the good stuff" give an example of the "good stuff" women are privy to now.



There's so much wrong with this. Your levels of ridiculousness have climbed so high, I'm not going to go near it.

if a women meets minimum standards she should be enlisted just like any man as this is equality

[Harry Smith]

it would be nice if you read the thread, the thread is about when conscription on military draft is in affect, should women be called up with the men?

my response was yes, for true equality women must get the good (money and respect) as well as the bad (war and tough jobs) do you see where im standing now?

It would be nice if you wouldn't call all women cowards wouldn't it?

Women shouldn't be called up to the Draft, men shouldn't be called for the Draft. No-one should be called up to the Draft.

Only one country in the world uses women in a full-time role- that's good old Israel. They also use blind and deaf people in the armed services.

Women don't even have a full combat role yet, something many republicans support

[britishboy]

It would be nice if you wouldn't call all women cowards wouldn't it?

Women shouldn't be called up to the Draft, men shouldn't be called for the Draft. No-one should be called up to the Draft.

Only one country in the world uses women in a full-time role- that's good old Israel. They also use blind and deaf people in the armed services.

Women don't even have a full combat role yet, something many republicans support

oh I dont support any kind conscription however if ut us deemed men must be called up, women should as well.

I wouldnt dare call all women cowards, I'm sorry if I came across that way. what I ment was they demand the good stuff but avoid the bad stuff.

I don't support conscription at all

[Sir Suomi]

Gender Equality goes both ways. If women want the ability to serve in combat roles, they should also become required to be drafted. Simple as that. Besides, we'd double our effective fighting force, which, according to Lanchester's Law, can almost always guarantee victory.

[TheDeepestDepths]

what I ment was they demand the good stuff but avoid the bad stuff.

But they don't. Where is your basis for this?

[Human]

While I disagree with the idea of a draft, I do think that as long as it exists it should be fair. Making only men sign up is just absurd.

Yeah I also don't agree with a draft, but even if they don't want women fighting on the front lines they could at least draft them into another sector of the army

[britishboy]

But they don't. Where is your basis for this?

read what I have been saying, if you truly want to be equal you should accept the good and the bad, not only want one

[Harry Smith]

read what I have been saying, if you truly want to be equal you should accept the good and the bad, not only want one

What's the bad that comes with Equality? Women have the bad of lower wages, sexualisation and a opression across all areas of the world.

We shouldn't even be discussing this, a draft not only produces bad quality troops with bad morale but it's un-needed for America, along with reserve personal and the national guard they have 2 million plus soldiers.

Women can't serve in combat so how can they be drafted? What about the millions of children? Who will look after them if both their parents are serving aboard?

The US doesn't need a draft for women, it doesn't need more canon fodder

[tovaris]

You stil have to register for the draft? That is just sad...
But yes full equalety

[Sir Suomi]

What's the bad that comes with Equality? Women have the bad of lower wages, sexualisation and a opression across all areas of the world.

We shouldn't even be discussing this, a draft not only produces bad quality troops with bad morale but it's un-needed for America, along with reserve personal and the national guard they have 2 million plus soldiers.

Women can't serve in combat so how can they be drafted? What about the millions of children? Who will look after them if both their parents are serving aboard?

The US doesn't need a draft for women, it doesn't need more canon fodder

Just going to add something here, as I previously stated, that according to Lanchester's Law, the more troops that you are able to put on the board, the higher your odds of success are. So there would be a positive side to having women available for draft, militaristically speaking, so that we can double our effective fighting strength. And the draft is a good thing to have. Although we do have a very substantial armed forces, if we were to enter a major war, such as a war against a large coalition of enemies, the draft would be a good backup plan to have.

[Harry Smith]

Just going to add something here, as I previously stated, that according to Lanchester's Law, the more troops that you are able to put on the board, the higher your odds of success are. So there would be a positive side to having women available for draft, militaristically speaking, so that we can double our effective fighting strength. And the draft is a good thing to have. Although we do have a very substantial armed forces, if we were to enter a major war, such as a war against a large coalition of enemies, the draft would be a good backup plan to have.

Lanchasters law is very abstract, I mean look at the Battle of France and many other early WW2 battles, I think there were 95 french divsions, 13 British divisions and 8 Belgium army divisions and they were defeated by a german army of about 90 million.

Look at how the draft went in Vietnam you had 18 year men taking drugs, killing civilians and senior officers because of the shock of going from a relaxed US life to the jungle of Vietnam.

I can't see an example of how the US would ever need the draft, ever

[TheDeepestDepths]

read what I have been saying, if you truly want to be equal you should accept the good and the bad, not only want one

That is not what I asked. I asked what your basis was for saying that women 'demand the good stuff' but 'avoid the bad'.

[Taryn98]

I agree everyone should register

[Walter Powers]

no we should only sign up when it becomes nessisary

But if it does, don't you think women should have to, too?

You don't fix an awful thing by making it worse.
Say we are in WWW III and a draft is the only option to save the free world. Don't you think that it should be applied equally to both men & women?

I'm all about gender equality, but there's some things that I think men should do that women shouldn't and vice-versa. Some girls really aren't made to do that kind of stuff and they have like periods and stuff like that they have to deal with that men don't. Again, I'm not sexist at all, but that's just what I think. I'm open to opinions though.

By that logic we should prohibit women from servicing in the military altogether. Either they shouldn't serve at all, or be allowed to serve but have to register for the draft. It's unfair for women to get the best of both worlds, and that's why I support the latter option.

What's the bad that comes with Equality? Women have the bad of lower wages, sexualisation and a opression across all areas of the world.

We shouldn't even be discussing this, a draft not only produces bad quality troops with bad morale but it's un-needed for America, along with reserve personal and the national guard they have 2 million plus soldiers.

Women can't serve in combat so how can they be drafted? What about the millions of children? Who will look after them if both their parents are serving aboard?

The US doesn't need a draft for women, it doesn't need more canon fodder

Harry, say we find ourselves in World War III. Russia and China are on one side. The US, the UK, and the rest of the commonwealth are on the other. A draft would be required to preserve the existence of the free world. I wish I had more faith in my fellow Americans to step up to the plate volunterilly, but I don't. I'm saying that if we find ourselves in such a situation, the same should be expected of women as men. Do you disagree? Why?

[TheBigUnit]

You don't fix an awful thing by making it worse.

^^^great post



Anyway all you hypocrites that support equality for everything better support this too

[LouBerry]

Why should there have to be drafts at all? If you are like me, and you don't believe in war, why should you be forced to go?

Plus, if women and men are supposed to go, what happens to the kids? Both parents gone? And like someone pointed out on the gender equality thread, the majority of teachers are women. Do we just throw education to the wind for war? Who stays behind to keep things going here?

[MisterSix]

Why should there have to be drafts at all? If you are like me, and you don't believe in war, why should you be forced to go?

Plus, if women and men are supposed to go, what happens to the kids? Both parents gone? And like someone pointed out on the gender equality thread, the majority of teachers are women. Do we just throw education to the wind for war? Who stays behind to keep things going here?

So with your logic, if I don't believe in taxes or juries, I shouldn't have to pay them or have jury duty.

People can be classed as too important, unfit for war or the military could reach its quota of people

[LouBerry]

So with your logic, if I don't believe in taxes or juries, I shouldn't have to pay them or have jury duty.

People can be classed as too important, unfit for war or the military could reach its quota of people

Taxes and Jury Duty don't fucking kill people. I don't believe in taking human life, under any circumstances. If you gave me a million dollars or put a gun to my head, I would not going the military. Am I grateful for the people who do? Hell yes. I love my country, but I don't want to die for it, I'm sorry, and more then that, I'm not going to kill some man/woman that I don't even know.

[Laquifa]

You're absolutely right. I think there are stipulations the go into effect with the draft, like if you're the youngest or an only child you can't be drafted? But then again, that could be speculation.

[uglyinsideandout]

I know there's been a lot of debate about gender equality on here lately. Currently, only men have to register for the selective service system. Should World War III begin and the draft be required to save the country, only men would be called up. Whether or not you agree with the draft, this is totally blatant sexism and needs to be updated. Women should have to register for the Selective Service system, as well, for equalities sake. What do you think?

When you get it fixed so that women can have any job in the military come back and we can have this discussion. Until then it doesn't make much sense.

[Tree96]

I feel like that many of you are forgetting that women helped just as much during WWII. True, they weren't in battle and dying everyday but without many of them taking "men's" jobs and helping out with the manufacturing process during WWII as well taking care of home...the war could've been a lot worse for us. The fact is, everyone pretty much helped in any way they could whether or not they were drafted and whether or not they were a man or woman. I feel like it would be similar if the same thing were to happen today.

Of course there will be at least one of you that just says everything I said is wrong or inaccurate but that's no surprise. History is history, whatever your political views are, it doesn't just change.

[Harry Smith]

Harry, say we find ourselves in World War III. Russia and China are on one side. The US, the UK, and the rest of the commonwealth are on the other. A draft would be required to preserve the existence of the free world. I wish I had more faith in my fellow Americans to step up to the plate volunterilly, but I don't. I'm saying that if we find ourselves in such a situation, the same should be expected of women as men. Do you disagree? Why?

The commonwealth won't be on our side at all, it's nothing more than a dinner club. I really can't see a war at all where you would need that much manpower. I mean say if Russia attack you've got a massive buffer zone created by Poland, Germany, France and Turkey who all belong in NATO. If the US or UK came under threat the I reckon it would go Nuclear, I really can't see a limited war being waged.

On the issue of the draft, it's stupid. I support using reserves and the national guard but do you really want to send 18 year olds to die? Look at Vietnam, you had 18 year old boys from poor inner city areas being sent to a country they hadn't heard of. This was followed by US soldiers being used as cannon fodder, taking drugs and killing civilians.

[britishboy]

The commonwealth won't be on our side at all, it's nothing more than a dinner club. I really can't see a war at all where you would need that much manpower. I mean say if Russia attack you've got a massive buffer zone created by Poland, Germany, France and Turkey who all belong in NATO. If the US or UK came under threat the I reckon it would go Nuclear, I really can't see a limited war being waged.

On the issue of the draft, it's stupid. I support using reserves and the national guard but do you really want to send 18 year olds to die? Look at Vietnam, you had 18 year old boys from poor inner city areas being sent to a country they hadn't heard of. This was followed by US soldiers being used as cannon fodder, taking drugs and killing civilians.

Canada, Australia and New Zeland? they will be on our side, for conscription to happen today, it will only be if our sovereignty is actually at threat, do you want to be at the mercy of another Hitler? a Communist? I do agree with you on Vietnam though, it wasn't justified to conscript soilders for that

and i thought you was against nukes?

[Harry Smith]

Canada, Australia and New Zeland? they will be on our side, for conscription to happen today, it will only be if our sovereignty is actually at threat, do you want to be at the mercy of another Hitler? a Communist? I do agree with you on Vietnam though, it wasn't justified to conscript soilders for that

and i thought you was against nukes?

That's not all the commonwealth, Canada didn't follow us or the yanks into Iraq did they. The problem is that we say we need to build up our armed forces to defend us from China, China build up to defend against us. It's a cycle which only ends in death.

We don't need conscription to defend our-self, we don't have enough uniforms, weapons or training facilities to get everyone into the Army. With the power of our air force and navy along with the US we will never need a large standing army. We didn't need it in the Falklands, we didn't need it in Korea

[britishboy]

That's not all the commonwealth, Canada didn't follow us or the yanks into Iraq did they. The problem is that we say we need to build up our armed forces to defend us from China, China build up to defend against us. It's a cycle which only ends in death.

We don't need conscription to defend our-self, we don't have enough uniforms, weapons or training facilities to get everyone into the Army. With the power of our air force and navy along with the US we will never need a large standing army. We didn't need it in the Falklands, we didn't need it in Korea

the commonwealth love us, if we're in real trouble im sure they will help, and most of the commonwealth are islands but the commonwealth is a story for another day

war is shit, but if we don't build up, and they build up we lose the edge and could lose

very true, we didn't even have America helping and we kicked Argentine ass!:D

I think conscription should only be considered if a another situation happens that puts Britain's back against the wall and its our ONLY hope

[Harry Smith]

the commonwealth love us, if we're in real trouble im sure they will help, and most of the commonwealth are islands but the commonwealth is a story for another day

war is shit, but if we don't build up, and they build up we lose the edge and could lose

very true, we didn't even have America helping and we kicked Argentine ass!:D

I think conscription should only be considered if a another situation happens that puts Britain's back against the wall and its our ONLY hope

The commonwealth don't love us, in fact a commonwealth country was invaded by America, Grenada that was. Another one has committed genocide and mass war crimes, the commonwealth is nothing to be proud of.

Russia have no need to attack us, China have no need to attack us. We don't need to spend billions on a potential war when we can't even keep our hospitals open.

All that would do is kill innocent people with no training, for conscription to work you need to train people who have never used a gun how to fight the enemy. You would need a surplus of about 1 million rifles, about 10 million rounds of ammunition, 1 million uniforms. Do you think we can afford that along with the rest of our defense bill?

If our country ever does have it's back against the wall we will simply go nuclear

[britishboy]

The commonwealth don't love us, in fact a commonwealth country was invaded by America, Grenada that was. Another one has committed genocide and mass war crimes, the commonwealth is nothing to be proud of.

Russia have no need to attack us, China have no need to attack us. We don't need to spend billions on a potential war when we can't even keep our hospitals open.

All that would do is kill innocent people with no training, for conscription to work you need to train people who have never used a gun how to fight the enemy. You would need a surplus of about 1 million rifles, about 10 million rounds of ammunition, 1 million uniforms. Do you think we can afford that along with the rest of our defense bill?

If our country ever does have it's back against the wall we will simply go nuclear

so now your pro nuke? and we must be careful to still be successful in current and likely future wars. while I agree the big countries don't want war, Argentina still does and we cant nuke them if they invade the Falklands

[Harry Smith]

so now your pro nuke? and we must be careful to still be successful in current and likely future wars. while I agree the big countries don't want war, Argentina still does and we cant nuke them if they invade the Falklands

I don't support Nuclear weapons, we should get rid of them as soon as I just know that our government would use them if we really were at risk. We don't need conscription to defend the Falklands

[britishboy]

I don't support Nuclear weapons, we should get rid of them as soon as I just know that our government would use them if we really were at risk. We don't need conscription to defend the Falklands

our government would only use them if we was really at risk, we could have wiped out the Taliban in 5 minutes if we wanted to with them.

and we dont need conscription for anything, lets hope a time that we do never comes

[Harry Smith]

our government would only use them if we was really at risk, we could have wiped out the Taliban in 5 minutes if we wanted to with them.

and we dont need conscription for anything, lets hope a time that we do never comes

No we couldn't, the Taliban are in a mountain range that spans about 500 miles along with assests spread across the world. Nuclear weapons wouldn't help in defeating such a vast enemy

[Korashk]

Say we are in WWW III and a draft is the only option to save the free world. Don't you think that it should be applied equally to both men & women?

.....

Harry, say we find ourselves in World War III. Russia and China are on one side. The US, the UK, and the rest of the commonwealth are on the other. A draft would be required to preserve the existence of the free world. I wish I had more faith in my fellow Americans to step up to the plate volunterilly, but I don't. I'm saying that if we find ourselves in such a situation, the same should be expected of women as men. Do you disagree? Why?
If you're drafting people into the military then the world is no longer free anyways. The draft is just fancy talk for military slavery.

[Walter Powers]

If you're drafting people into the military then the world is no longer free anyways. The draft is just fancy talk for military slavery.

Sometimes you have to forfeit a little freedom for a lot of freedom. I'd rather be drafted into the military then be living in China or Russia, I can assure you.

[Sir Suomi]

very true, we didn't even have America helping and we kicked Argentine ass!:D


That's a first :P

[uglyinsideandout]

Sometimes you have to forfeit a little freedom for a lot of freedom.


“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

I bet the founding fathers would be really proud of your stance.

[Camazotz]

Neither gender should be required to register for the draft. No one (not men, not women) should be forced by their government to fight for something they don't agree with. Their shouldn't be a gender equality issue concerning the draft because the draft is the issue in the first place.

It's 2013, we should have robots that do the fighting for us by now.

[Party256]

I agree

[randomnessqueen]

noone should have to register for the draft
the draft is a terrible idea
and i think they get that now, so i doubt the draft will really come back

[Walter Powers]

Neither gender should be required to register for the draft. No one (not men, not women) should be forced by their government to fight for something they don't agree with. Their shouldn't be a gender equality issue concerning the draft because the draft is the issue in the first place.

It's 2013, we should have robots that do the fighting for us by now.

I'm talking a World War 3 scenario here.

[uglyinsideandout]

I'm talking a World War 3 scenario here.

We all die in that one, so who cares if you're drafted?

[Walter Powers]

We all die in that one, so who cares if you're drafted?

We won world wars I and II, what makes you think we don't have a chance in III?

[uglyinsideandout]

We won world wars I and II, what makes you think we don't have a chance in III?

Probably the nuclear weapons that are enough to kill us all several times over. I mean, I hope it never happens, but if it does I'm not going to hide in a hole in the ground I'm going to go stand in the open and just be done with this place.

[Walter Powers]

Probably the nuclear weapons that are enough to kill us all several times over. I mean, I hope it never happens, but if it does I'm not going to hide in a hole in the ground I'm going to go stand in the open and just be done with this place.

I think even China sees enough value in human life not to use nukes. However, if they don't, we have the best nuclear defense system in the world to take down incoming missles.

[deadpie]

Kind of liked don't ask don't tell. I don't want to be in a fuckin war killing people! I'll keep my gay ass at home and do what I always do. If a WW3 did start and I was getting drafted I would probably kill myself immediately, like literally on the spot of finding out. I'm not dying for anyone other than my family. Spare me that "bla bla troops died for you fuck muslim terrorist scum" shit. I didn't ask for anyone to come and "protect" me. Go ahead and blow my face off with a sub machine gun. Have seen what authority here in Texas does for people like me who have been hurt by others - absolutely nothing! I don't ask to be protected! Kill me! Let me die if some so called terrorists are planning on doing so!

Nobody should have to sign up for some dumb fuck draft for a stupid fucking nuclear war that will last less than a three month span. All that would happen in a WW3 is big fucking bombs dropping everywhere around the planet and new hi tech drones blowing shit up. Nobody would win. WW3 isn't about America's safety. WW3 is meant to be known as that moment when WE ALL FUCKING DIE of a NUCLEAR WAR. If anyone would survive the numbers would be extremely low and humanity would NEVER be the same. Seriously no point in doing a draft for something as insanely bleak as that. The best we can do is do our best to prevent a global nuclear war from ever happening.

Also I'm quite sure once you turn 18 you have five years(?) to enter registration information for a draft or else you get a spankin from the Government.

[uglyinsideandout]

I think even China sees enough value in human life not to use nukes. However, if they don't, we have the best nuclear defense system in the world to take down incoming missles.

I'm glad you're not worried about what China or any of the other countries that have nuclear weapons now I can sleep better at night.

What did you think of the Ben Franklin quote I gave you?

[Camazotz]

I think both men and women should do their best to dodge a draft, whether that means fleeing the country, civil protests, declaring themselves pacifists, claiming religious exemptions, etc. No one should be required to register for the draft. Ever. Not for World War III, not for a war against zombies or aliens, not against terrorism. Nothing.

If you can dodge the draft, you can dodge a dodgeball.

[trimm_tom]

neither shouldit should be an all volunteer force

[Stronk Serb]

I am against any kind of conscription. You just get told to keep your head down, get issued with a weapon and get sent to the front to die very quickly, you are lucky if you get rushed through training.


But if it does, don't you think women should have to, too?


Say we are in WWW III and a draft is the only option to save the free world. Don't you think that it should be applied equally to both men & women?



By that logic we should prohibit women from servicing in the military altogether. Either they shouldn't serve at all, or be allowed to serve but have to register for the draft. It's unfair for women to get the best of both worlds, and that's why I support the latter option.



Harry, say we find ourselves in World War III. Russia and China are on one side. The US, the UK, and the rest of the commonwealth are on the other. A draft would be required to preserve the existence of the free world. I wish I had more faith in my fellow Americans to step up to the plate volunterilly, but I don't. I'm saying that if we find ourselves in such a situation, the same should be expected of women as men. Do you disagree? Why?

That is ridiculous. You think a handful of countries have freedom? You would be surprised how much freedom African countries, Asian countries and many European countries have, Russia included. Anyways, IF a both-gender conscription is to be instated, women should be put in places away from the close-quarters fighting, so their liabilities will not matter,they should serve like pilots, engineers, medical personnel, tank crews, logistics operators, communication operators etc. Of course, women who have the strength to handle a grunt in hand-to-hand should be allowed to go be in the infantry.

Sometimes you have to forfeit a little freedom for a lot of freedom. I'd rather be drafted into the military then be living in China or Russia, I can assure you.

Russia gains nothing from invading the UK and the US. China, despite it's manpower cannot beat the US and the UK. If the US is occupied by Russia, you will have the same freedom as in the UK. It is not like the Soviet Union anymore, you can actually make a political joke against the ruling parties and not get arrested.

I'm talking a World War 3 scenario here.

You better be worried by other countries, not Russia and China. They are stable enough and their leaders know they gain nothing from an invasion of the NATO countries, which you define as the "free world" as if all other countries are oppressing their populations.

We won world wars I and II, what makes you think we don't have a chance in III?

The fact that Russia has 2 times more nuclear warheads then the US? I am bringing this up since you are rambling about China and Russia enslaving the "free world".

I think even China sees enough value in human life not to use nukes. However, if they don't, we have the best nuclear defense system in the world to take down incoming missles.

Not all missiles will be taken down. Some will slip. Especially if Russia launches theirs. What makes you think your nuclear missile defense system is the best? Did it ever have 20,000 nuclear warheads heading and destroyed all of them? You cannot guarantee it will keep you safe if no actual warheads were launched and the system destroyed them.