Gender Equality

[TheDeepestDepths]

How many of you believe the men are equal to women at the moment?

I'm not talking about just on the surface but in terms of who has higher paying jobs, who has more powerful jobs, how both genders are treated in places like court and how both of them are treated socially. Try find evidence to back up your claims.

[QuantumPhysics]

The only thing different about men and women is that they have a slightly larger hypothalamus and they have a slightly different concoction of hormones.

[britishboy]

were exactly the same, the only differences now are those women create

[Rina]

I think women are still seen as unequal to men. They are still paid less for the same job and they are still not taken seriously in jobs that are particularly "male dominated".

[Yugen]

It really depends on the place you live. There's a lot of places where they're equal, some where men are still on top, and some cultures even have women on top.

[Watta Tem]

Most presidents and powerful people are men. Women and men are equal, but men deserves this kind of jobs.

[Human]

I think in the West women are equal at the moment. Maybe in Africa, places where there is a lot of poverty, women are less equal as the man is expected to go and work.
However, I think even in the West it is still not completely equal. People (even women) still say 'don't hit girls' for example!

[Plasma]

In the United States, women are completely equal to men, maybe even treated better. I personally get offended when women claim to not have as many rights. Especially if they pull the "not as high paying job" card. Hmm, ever stopped to think that if you want to be equal, and get paid the same as a man, that you should have to do the exact same job that they do? Theres some things that a man's body does better than a woman's, and vice versa. Also, women don't propose or usually ask a man out, etc. So to sum it up, I believe women are equal, but create more problems then there needs to be.

[Jess]

For the most part, in the West at least, women are equal to men but I don't think we've completely reached 100% equality.

In other parts of the world, women are definitely not as equal to men

[Croconaw]

Men are definitely seen as superior, and it pisses me off.

[Sir Suomi]

The only problem I have is the fact that their is an unfair bias with the treatment of women. For example, in a show where a woman slaps/hits another man, it's accepted, and can even be considered funny. Now flip it around, and have a man slaps/hits a woman, he's a monster. See what I mean?

[britishboy]

Men are definitely seen as superior, and it pisses me off.

theyre not

[Yolo98]

In the west,yes, but in the rest of the world no.

[britishboy]

In the west,yes, but in the rest of the world no.

very true! and btw love the sig:P long live the queen!

[Harley Quinn]

theyre not

Can you state why?

[britishboy]

Can you state why?

if anything its the other way around! girls can have topless waiters and its a bit of fun, men do it and its male supremacy. and there is actually more women in education

[Harry Smith]

if anything its the other way around! girls can have topless waiters and its a bit of fun, men do it and its male supremacy. and there is actually more women in education

You say long live the Queen, the Queen is in the head of a religion and organisation which is in fact highly sexist. Women can't became Bishops, not only is that breaking the 1975 employment law but it also shows the gender inequality is still present in your beloved Monarchy

[TheDeepestDepths]

were exactly the same, the only differences now are those women create

Women create? What do you mean by that? Examples?

The only problem I have is the fact that their is an unfair bias with the treatment of women. For example, in a show where a woman slaps/hits another man, it's accepted, and can even be considered funny. Now flip it around, and have a man slaps/hits a woman, he's a monster. See what I mean?

Yes, that's something that drives me mad. Often the media (http://www.udel.edu/comm245/readings/GenderedMedia.pdf), television in particular, falls back on gender stereotypes even when trying not to.

if anything its the other way around! girls can have topless waiters and its a bit of fun, men do it and its male supremacy. and there is actually more women in education

Waiters? You mean people who serve food? Because if so, what sort of restaurants have you been going to? I don't know any that would allow the staff to go around half naked.

Yes, there are more females than males in third level education, so why are males paid more on average than females (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14721839)?
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55050000/gif/_55050632_pay_gap_464.gif

You say long live the Queen, the Queen is in the head of a religion and organisation which is in fact highly sexist. Women can't became Bishops, not only is that breaking the 1975 employment law but it also shows the gender inequality is still present in your beloved Monarchy

Religion is another way men and women are unequal - both in employment and the social aspects. The book He's a Stud, She's a Slut. is great for pointing out gender inequalities.

[kiddo67]

I believe that we need to have the same rights but that we should be treated differently, woman are able to do different things that guys do so why be treated the same when we are all different like I'm not saying that just about woman every man is different too. You have to be nice to everyone but you can't treat two different people the same way

[britishboy]

You say long live the Queen, the Queen is in the head of a religion and organisation which is in fact highly sexist. Women can't became Bishops, not only is that breaking the 1975 employment law but it also shows the gender inequality is still present in your beloved Monarchy

I said long live the queen, not the church:P

[TheDeepestDepths]

I believe that we need to have the same rights but that we should be treated differently, woman are able to do different things that guys do so why be treated the same when we are all different like I'm not saying that just about woman every man is different too. You have to be nice to everyone but you can't treat two different people the same way

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Example?

[britishboy]

Women create? What do you mean by that? Examples?


men must pay dor dates, men must ask the girl out and to marry them, men must be the protector, men must be financialy responsible and men must earn more than the women. some are more apparent than others though

[TheDeepestDepths]

men must pay for dates, men must ask the girl out and to marry them, men must be the protector, men must be financialy responsible and men must earn more than the women. some are more apparent than others though

Can I just say that you sound like you hate all women? You come across as saying that it's all women's fault. That women have everything on equal grounds with men and all gender inequality issues are there from women complaining and whinging about how life is so unfair and that they have to be looked after. Fair enough, if that's your view, I just feel sorry for your girlfriend if that's the case. I disagree with you and if you look at the rest of my post you'll see that I have examples and evidence why. Having debated with you before I can tell that nothing, even solid statistics, will change your mind and opinion that women are outrageous harpies.

[Moondust]

I think they're still considered different in society, which I hope stops soon. Anybody can dress, act and talk as they please.
My family thinks that girls should dress girly act feminine, which they can, but only if THEY want to. I guess because of the way my mom was raised, she still thinks there's a huge difference and, I don't mean to be disrespectful of her but, that is just dumb.

[britishboy]

Can I just say that you sound like you hate all women? You come across as saying that it's all women's fault. That women have everything on equal grounds with men and all gender inequality issues are there from women complaining and whinging about how life is so unfair and that they have to be looked after. Fair enough, if that's your view, I just feel sorry for your girlfriend if that's the case. I disagree with you and if you look at the rest of my post you'll see that I have examples and evidence why. Having debated with you before I can tell that nothing, even solid statistics, will change your mind and opinion that women are outrageous harpies.

I think thats a overreaction? I said its not a problem, I have nothing at all against women, every women is different and what you have to remember is that women have babies and many stay home to look after the baby so will on average get paid less

what about male equality? why if a guy acts feminine is he automatically gay? why must he be richer than hes partner? why must he know everything? why must he ask the girl out? give the girl his coat when its cold? whilst as a guy im fine with doing all of this, its as much as a problem as female inequality, neither are a problem in the UK or USA, your American right?

[Harry Smith]

I said long live the queen, not the church:P

The Queen is the church

men must pay dor dates, men must ask the girl out and to marry them, men must be the protector, men must be financialy responsible and men must earn more than the women. some are more apparent than others though

Women have to deal with men like you, that seems bad enough doesn't it? Women have to deal with childbirth, women have to deal with the sexualisation from an earlier age, women have to deal with a rape culture, women have to deal with lower wages, women have to deal with a society that doesn't treat them as equals.

Also I hope you know there is no coat law, your talking about what's expected in a relationship.

Not every woman is straight, not every woman is in a relationship. I hate to tell you but women are not made for your pleasure

[britishboy]

The Queen is the church

shes the head of it and im soryy but you cant force your views on religion, I know your gay and like most gay men hate Christianity and religious politics is nothing to do with the Queen, I just was happy to see his signature praised the Queen, its a bit of fun.


Women have to deal with men like you, that seems bad enough doesn't it? Women have to deal with childbirth, women have to deal with the sexualisation from an earlier age, women have to deal with a rape culture, women have to deal with lower wages, women have to deal with a society that doesn't treat them as equals.

Also I hope you know there is no coat law, your talking about what's expected in a relationship.

Not every woman is straight, not every woman is in a relationship. I hate to tell you but women are not made for your pleasure

okay then? the point of that was?

[TheDeepestDepths]

I think thats a overreaction? I said its not a problem, I have nothing at all against women, every women is different and what you have to remember is that women have babies and many stay home to look after the baby so will on average get paid less

what about male equality? why if a guy acts feminine is he automatically gay? why must he be richer than hes partner? why must he know everything? why must he ask the girl out? give the girl his coat when its cold? whilst as a guy im fine with doing all of this, its as much as a problem as female inequality, neither are a problem in the UK or USA, your American right?

I apologise that I came across overly bitchy but to say that it's not a problem is to ignore the fact that inequality is there or to say that you acknowledge that inequality is there and you think that's the way it should be.

Yes, women have babies but the man is a parent too. Why is it that there is so much more housewives than househusbands? If there was equality, the fact that stay-at-home people exist wouldn't matter because the same percentage of both genders would stay at home. It's neither genders fault for this, but society's. Women feel they should stay at home and men feel that they should be the breadwinner.

Of course equality is just as important for both genders but the simple fact of the matter is that women are more oppressed. Men are in some ways, but women overall and especially in the more Eastern countries.

Why is it that if a girl acts masculine she's automatically a lesbian? Why must she wait to be asked out? All those questions can be flipped to show inequality for both genders.

You just listed ways inequality exists in the Western world. No, I'm not American, I'm Irish.

[Yolo98]

If you want to have a look at gender equality in afghanistan under the taliban, theres a 2001 dispatches documentary on it . Its on the 4od website.

[britishboy]

I apologise that I came across overly bitchy but to say that it's not a problem is to ignore the fact that inequality is there or to say that you acknowledge that inequality is there and you think that's the way it should be.

Yes, women have babies but the man is a parent too. Why is it that there is so much more housewives than househusbands? If there was equality, the fact that stay-at-home people exist wouldn't matter because the same percentage of both genders would stay at home. It's neither genders fault for this, but society's. Women feel they should stay at home and men feel that they should be the breadwinner.

Of course equality is just as important for both genders but the simple fact of the matter is that women are more oppressed. Men are in some ways, but women overall and especially in the more Eastern countries.

Why is it that if a girl acts masculine she's automatically a lesbian? Why must she wait to be asked out? All those questions can be flipped to show inequality for both genders.

You just listed ways inequality exists in the Western world. No, I'm not American, I'm Irish.

I know its there, but its on both sides

the women may want to look after her baby, women who go back to work are respected however a man will be gay so I think thats why the women takes time off work, I dont see the need for either, hire cleaners and a nanny.

I 100% agree with the fact its societys probablem, few men or women are sexist
however must act in accordance to our culture and I think Ireland is similar to us? you used to be in the UK so we must have similar cultures, however forgive me if im wrong, the only thing I know about Ireland is the IRA, a struggling economy and crap weather like England:P thats all because of the news, I have never visited

[Laquifa]

I think women are still seen as unequal to men. They are still paid less for the same job and they are still not taken seriously in jobs that are particularly "male dominated".

I see a lot of this going on in where I live. It's honestly quite sad that women have to work in order to get the favors that men are granted. I'm absolutely NOT being racist here, but this is an observation as a person of color. I see nothing fair with a woman of color not being able to have the same oppurtunities as a Caucasian man, or even a man of color for that matter.

It really depends on the place you live. There's a lot of places where they're equal, some where men are still on top, and some cultures even have women on top.

This is true as well.

[TheDeepestDepths]

I know its there, but its on both sides

the women may want to look after her baby, women who go back to work are respected however a man will be gay so I think thats why the women takes time off work, I dont see the need for either, hire cleaners and a nanny.

I 100% agree with the fact its societys probablem, few men or women are sexist
however must act in accordance to our culture and I think Ireland is similar to us? you used to be in the UK so we must have similar cultures, however forgive me if im wrong, the only thing I know about Ireland is the IRA, a struggling economy and crap weather like England:P thats all because of the news, I have never visited

What about men who want to look after the baby? Women, fair enough, would have to take time off work for a week or two to recover from giving birth but after that there should be no difference. You clearly didn't know that the main reason someone will decide to stay at home is because they don't have the money to hire cleaners and a nanny. Staying at home and not working will save more money than working and hiring several people.

Yes, we have a fairly similar culture to you. More similar to yours than to America's anyway.

[britishboy]

what about men who want to look after the baby? Women, fair enough, would have to take time off work for a week or two to recover from giving birth but after that there should be no difference. You clearly didn't know that the main reason someone will decide to stay at home is because they don't have the money to hire cleaners and a nanny. Staying at home and not working will save more money than working and hiring several people.

Yes, we have a fairly similar culture to you. More similar to yours than to America's anyway.

there is no difference no, but in our society its expected for the women to do the stuff and if you cant afford them, dont hire them, I wasnt saying thats what should be done. this could be seen as worse for men because we are expected to work no matter what

and really? I thought you hated everything about the UK? god you irish are confusing:P

[TheDeepestDepths]

there is no difference no, but in our society its expected for the women to do the stuff and if you cant afford them, dont hire them, I wasnt saying thats what should be done. this could be seen as worse for men because we are expected to work no matter what

That's my point! I was trying to establish that gender inequality is still an issue because it still exists. Women are expected to be the one to stay at home and men are expected to be the one to work. This is not a discussion on which gender has it worse as it depends on your point of view whether staying at home or working is worse. This is a discussion on how both men and women are still being oppressed under the radar, with a thin veneer of so-called "equality" thrown on top.

and really? I thought you hated everything about the UK? god you irish are confusing:P

Don't stereotype.

[StoppingTime]

the women may want to look after her baby, women who go back to work are respected however a man will be gay so I think thats why the women takes time off work, I dont see the need for either, hire cleaners and a nanny.


I tried for some time to decipher this, but to no avail.


I 100% agree with the fact its societys probablem, few men or women are sexist

Yet you said it's not an issue in most developed countries.

however must act in accordance to our culture

So if a culture says kill women who dress immorally, "tempt" men, don't take full care of their child, etc, that's acceptable?

[LouBerry]

men must pay dor dates, men must ask the girl out and to marry them, men must be the protector, men must be financialy responsible and men must earn more than the women. some are more apparent than others though

That is absolute shit.

Financially responsible? Do you know how many fucking single mothers there are out there? My mom worked hard every single day of her life to take care of me and my baby sister. Do you think she didn't deserve to be paid as much as a male coworker?

[Harry Smith]

shes the head of it and im soryy but you cant force your views on religion, I know your gay and like most gay men hate Christianity and religious politics is nothing to do with the Queen, I just was happy to see his signature praised the Queen, its a bit of fun.

What? Politics is nothing to do with the Queen? What? She's head of State. That can't be politics can it.

When did I force my view on religion, I merely stated that the Church of England is sexist.

Also in regards to your other posts- thanks for making this so much easier, your debating is just terrible- you don't know the difference between law and society, you go back on yourself after about post and you think that posting a smiley makes up for your often rude, bigoted views

[Wesl3y]

I feel that in society women are still seen as inferior to men, which bothers me. I live in a single parent home with my mother, and since the divorce rate is climbing it is safe to assume more children are in the same family situation as I am. With more and more single mothers out there it suprised me that women earn 23% less in wages then men according to www.iwpr.org. With my mother being the only provider in the house for most of my life, I am use to seeing women work and don't see or find it acceptable that any man would still say women belong in the home. Unfortunately we stil live in a generation where the elders witnessed their mothers staying at home and their fathers being the provider. As the younger generation transitions into to an older generation I hope to see women and men stand equally in all areas.

[britishboy]

Financially responsible? Do you know how many fucking single mothers there are out there? My mom worked hard every single day of her life to take care of me and my baby sister. Do you think she didn't deserve to be paid as much as a male coworker?

yes, in a relationship it is expected that the man is richer and takes care of things

[TheDeepestDepths]

yes, in a relationship it is expected that the man is richer and takes care of things

Did you honestly just say that you thought she didn't deserve to be paid as much as a man doing the same job? Because it was expected?

[britishboy]

Did you honestly just say that you thought she didn't deserve to be paid as much as a man doing the same job? Because it was expected?

society makes it look bad if the women earns more and looks after the guy. depending on the relationship and the wealth of the couple depends on what happens, you get women who are doctors and earn their money then you get women who live off their husbands, every couple is different but society makes men who live off women bad

[Harry Smith]

yes, in a relationship it is expected that the man is richer and takes care of things

You seem to have a rather out of date idea of the nuclear family, it's somethhing which is just so stupid.

1) Not all families have parents who live together.
2) Not every woman lives with a man
3) Not every woman is attracted to men.

You can't base gender Equality purely on relationships, that's mainly based on society. You just seem to base your argument on love actually and rather stupid stereotypes I wouldn't expect someone of your age to hold.

You fail to hold an opinion for more than a day.

I 100% agree with the fact its societys probablem, few men or women are sexist

In many other threads you say western society doesn't have a problem with sexism.

So I'll ask for the 3rd time, are you happy that our country have a sexist church? Doesn't that prove that sexism is still a problem?

[TheDeepestDepths]

society makes it look bad if the women earns more and looks after the guy. depending on the relationship and the wealth of the couple depends on what happens, you get women who are doctors and earn their money then you get women who live off their husbands, every couple is different but society makes men who live off women bad

Does society make it look bad if women earn more? I can understand that it used to but I'm not sure about nowadays. I haven't seen or heard of any evidence of such.

[britishboy]

Does society make it look bad if women earn more? I can understand that it used to but I'm not sure about nowadays. I haven't seen or heard of any evidence of such.

if a guy has a girlfriend who looks after him abd buys him everything he needs he will lose man pride:P also many women enjoy that role, society is changing naturally, you dont have to wurry

[Trace]

if a guy has a girlfriend who looks after him abd buys him everything he needs he will lose man pride

God yes. I hate the idea of man pride. It's just UGGGGGGH.

[britishboy]

God yes. I hate the idea of man pride. It's just UGGGGGGH.

I feel the same say, it's not good for men or women

[TheDeepestDepths]

if a guy has a girlfriend who looks after him abd buys him everything he needs he will lose man pride:P also many women enjoy that role, society is changing naturally, you dont have to wurry

If a girl has no issue with her being the breadwinner and the man does then it is the man's mentality that is at fault. A mentality that society has instilled in him. Although, I am of the opinion that in a dating relationship neither person should "look after" the other until they can be classed as more "partners" than boyfriend and girlfriend. But that's just me.

I'm not worrying, I'm just frustrated that things are unequal in my lifetime. That I have to live in an unequal society. Personally, I don't care much for the society three generations down the road.

[LouBerry]

yes, in a relationship it is expected that the man is richer and takes care of things

So, my Mom and her kids deserved to be poor and barely scraping by just because she didn't have a man in her life? No. She was the mother and father for us, and she deserved equal treatment.

[britishboy]

So, my Mom and her kids deserved to be poor and barely scraping by just because she didn't have a man in her life? No. She was the mother and father for us, and she deserved equal treatment.

thats completely unrelated? im talking about relationships

[LouBerry]

thats completely unrelated? im talking about relationships

Completely unrelated? Then what the fuck is this post about?

You said, "yes, in a relationship it is expected that the man is richer and takes care of things" Okay, well I asked you what about single moms. What about single women. College students, trying to pay off their loans. A 30 year old widow with three kids? Those women deserve to be paid just as well as a male employee, don't you think?

[britishboy]

If a girl has no issue with her being the breadwinner and the man does then it is the man's mentality that is at fault. A mentality that society has instilled in him. Although, I am of the opinion that in a dating relationship neither person should "look after" the other until they can be classed as more "partners" than boyfriend and girlfriend. But that's just me.

I'm not worrying, I'm just frustrated that things are unequal in my lifetime. That I have to live in an unequal society. Personally, I don't care much for the society three generations down the road.

im my opinion, it's their relationship, let them do what they like, doesn't matter if the women or the man does the cleaning, dosent matter who is richer, it's their business.

I dont think its effecting anyone that much in our countries and us debating on the internet will make no difference

Completely unrelated? Then what the fuck is this post about?

You said, "yes, in a relationship it is expected that the man is richer and takes care of things" Okay, well I asked you what about single moms. What about single women. College students, trying to pay off their loans. A 30 year old widow with three kids? Those women deserve to be paid just as well as a male employee, don't you think?

last time I checked, single people aren't in relationships? wtf?

[TheDeepestDepths]

im my opinion, it's their relationship, let them do what they like, doesn't matter if the women or the man does the cleaning, dosent matter who is richer, it's their business.

I dont think its effecting anyone that much in our countries and us debating on the internet will make no difference

Yes, it is their business but you brought it up in an attempt to show gender inequality on the males side. Now you're saying it doesn't affect anyone? Keep your posts straight.

Debates are there to challenge opinions and to find out what other people think, of course they're not going to change society. But when you say that unequal pay and job opportunities for males and females don't affect anyone you're just wrong. It does affects people, particularly single women and especially single mothers.

last time I checked, single people aren't in relationships? wtf?

You're completely misunderstanding. You said that men are of paid more because men have to be the ones to support the family and wife. This means that single mothers and women struggle because the money is going to the men for the same work and men are given jobs in a higher position over them.

[LouBerry]

I dont think its effecting anyone that much in our countries and us debating on the internet will make no difference



last time I checked, single people aren't in relationships? wtf?

First off, you wouldn't know would you? You're a man. You'll probably never have to worry about inequality.

And also, my initial question you were supposed to answer was, do single women deserve to be paid as much as men. Nothing about relationships.

But, I don't care if a woman is married to a rich doctor. She deserves to be paid as much as any man is.

[britishboy]

First off, you wouldn't know would you? You're a man. You'll probably never have to worry about inequality.

And also, my initial question you were supposed to answer was, do single women deserve to be paid as much as men. Nothing about relationships.

But, I don't care if a woman is married to a rich doctor. She deserves to be paid as much as any man is.

If your struggling for money, get a job, your gender is no excuse, and women have an advantage in the sence most teachers are women and is that another moan at my wealth? just because im higher class, doesn't make me an idiot!

[LouBerry]

If your struggling for money, get a job, your gender is no excuse, and women have an advantage in the sence most teachers are women and is that another moan at my wealth? just because im higher class, doesn't make me an idiot!

I don't even...What are you talking about?

Do you know what this is about? Gender. MothingFucking. Equality. That doesn't just mean in the workforce, first of all.

The point of our little debate here is that women should be paid as much as men in their jobs. If I'm a dentist, I should get paid as much as the other dentist, even if he's a man. That is that point. Now, qualify or defend that statement, stop going on about your high class status and whatever other nonsense you just drug in.

[britishboy]

I don't even...What are you talking about?

Do you know what this is about? Gender. MothingFucking. Equality. That doesn't just mean in the workforce, first of all.

The point of our little debate here is that women should be paid as much as men in their jobs. If I'm a dentist, I should get paid as much as the other dentist, even if he's a man. That is that point. Now, qualify or defend that statement, stop going on about your high class status and whatever other nonsense you just drug in.

if you have the same job you will be paid the same, thats wasn't being debated? I thought it was the fact that only 3 women are CEO's in the UK and similar figures in other countries which is because women have babies and giving them a disadvantage when looking for more senior jobs.

[LouBerry]

if you have the same job you will be paid the same, thats wasn't being debated? I thought it was the fact that only 3 women are CEO's in the UK and similar figures in other countries which is because women have babies and giving them a disadvantage when looking for more senior jobs.

I have no idea how to have a conversation with you, because you just throw in random statements that do not pertain to anything yet discussed.

So,
Just give me a yes or no, for these things, and explain why.

Do you think that women should be paid equal to men.

Do you think that women should hold government offices.

Do you think that there should be gender equality.

[britishboy]

I have no idea how to have a conversation with you, because you just throw in random statements that do not pertain to anything yet discussed.

So,
Just give me a yes or no, for these things, and explain why.

Do you think that women should be paid equal to men.

Do you think that women should hold government offices.

Do you think that there should be gender equality.

I thought that was what we was discussing? and sure.

Do you think that women should be paid equal to men. if doing the same job for the same employer, yes.

Do you think that women should hold government offices. yes, Margaret Thatcher was our strongest prime minister and was a women, the first women pm and nicknamed the iron lady, so as long as theyre qualified then why not?

Do you think that there should be gender equality. yes of course, there is little differences which is the fault if our sociey and culture which I dont recognize as a problem and I'm not going to be campaigning to change that

[LouBerry]

I thought that was what we was discussing? and sure.

Do you think that women should be paid equal to men. if doing the same job for the same employer, yes.

Do you think that women should hold government offices. yes, Margaret Thatcher was our strongest prime minister and was a women, the first women pm and nicknamed the iron lady, so as long as theyre qualified then why not?

Do you think that there should be gender equality. yes of course, there is little differences which is the fault if our sociey and culture which I dont recognize as a problem and I'm not going to be campaigning to change that

Okay, then good. You are for gender equality. We are on the same side of the debate.

[britishboy]

Okay, then good. You are for gender equality. We are on the same side of the debate.

always have been:) I just feel it's not that much of a problem compared to our other current problems but yeah ww should be equal.

[LouBerry]

always have been:) I just feel it's not that much of a problem compared to our other current problems but yeah ww should be equal.

I don't know that I agree with that, it's still a pretty big problem, for us anyway.

[Harry Smith]

If your struggling for money, get a job, your gender is no excuse, and women have an advantage in the sence most teachers are women and is that another moan at my wealth? just because im higher class, doesn't make me an idiot!

Higher class of what? Your not a higher class of intelligence at all, you've shown everyone that on this and many other threads.

Most teachers are woman? yes but male teachers still get paid more. It's alot harder for woman to break into the job market due to a number of reasons.

Also just because Maragret Thatcher became PM doesn't mean sexism is gone, when she became leader of the Conservatives it was still legal to pay woman less based on their sex.

And once again- how can you claim it's not an issue when our head of state is in charge of a sexist religion

[britishboy]

I don't know that I agree with that, it's still a pretty big problem, for us anyway.

we all support and feel passionate to different causes, your more for gender equality and im more for cancer research, I am of course for equality

[Harry Smith]

If your struggling for money, get a job, your gender is no excuse, and women have an advantage in the sence most teachers are women and is that another moan at my wealth? just because im higher class, doesn't make me an idiot!

Higher class of what? Your not a higher class of intelligence at all, you've shown everyone that on this and many other threads.

Most teachers are woman? yes but male teachers still get paid more. It's alot harder for woman to break into the job market due to a number of reasons.

Also just because Maragret Thatcher became PM doesn't mean sexism is gone, when she became leader of the Conservatives it was still legal to pay woman less based on their sex.

And once again- how can you claim it's not an issue when our head of state is in charge of a sexist religion

[Walter Powers]

I think women are still seen as unequal to men. They are still paid less for the same job and they are still not taken seriously in jobs that are particularly "male dominated".

Likewise, men are not taken seriously in jobs with more females.

[Walter Powers]

You say long live the Queen, the Queen is in the head of a religion and organisation which is in fact highly sexist. Women can't became Bishops, not only is that breaking the 1975 employment law but it also shows the gender inequality is still present in your beloved Monarchy

Woah, I didn't think you were THAT unpatriotic.

If you hate your queen so much, why are you a member of her appreciation social group?


Higher class of what? Your not a higher class of intelligence at all, you've shown everyone that on this and many other threads.

Most teachers are woman? yes but male teachers still get paid more. It's alot harder for woman to break into the job market due to a number of reasons.

Also just because Maragret Thatcher became PM doesn't mean sexism is gone, when she became leader of the Conservatives it was still legal to pay woman less based on their sex.

And once again- how can you claim it's not an issue when our head of state is in charge of a sexist religion

Move. But not to America; we have enough radicals as it is.

[drew6]

Can I just say that you sound like you hate all women? You come across as saying that it's all women's fault. That women have everything on equal grounds with men and all gender inequality issues are there from women complaining and whinging about how life is so unfair and that they have to be looked after. Fair enough, if that's your view, I just feel sorry for your girlfriend if that's the case. I disagree with you and if you look at the rest of my post you'll see that I have examples and evidence why. Having debated with you before I can tell that nothing, even solid statistics, will change your mind and opinion that women are outrageous harpies.

What is a harpie?

[Jess]

What is a harpie?

It's a half chicken half woman creature that likes to eat children. Greek mythological creature.

[drew6]

It's a half chicken half woman creature that likes to eat children. Greek mythological creature.

Thank you. Concerning your forum picture: What about a boy WITH a horse? :)

[Harry Smith]

Woah, I didn't think you were THAT unpatriotic.

If you hate your queen so much, why are you a member of her appreciation social group?

I don't hate the Queen personally, I've never attacked the Queen personally just the sexist organisation and out of date monarchy.

It's not unpatriotic to dislike having an unelected head of state, I love Britain and I'm fucking sick of people claiming that I'm unpatriotic purely because I want to vote for the head of state rather than giving gross power to someone who got it because of their father. When parliament fought the monarchy in the 17th Century they weren't unpatriotic, when people marched for voting rights in the 19th Century only to be slaughtered by the kings Cavarly at Peterloo they weren't unpatriotic. You know nothing of British Patriotism

[britishboy]

I don't hate the Queen personally, I've never attacked the Queen personally just the sexist organisation and out of date monarchy.

It's not unpatriotic to dislike having an unelected head of state, I love Britain and I'm fucking sick of people claiming that I'm unpatriotic purely because I want to vote for the head of state rather than giving gross power to someone who got it because of their father. When parliament fought the monarchy in the 17th Century they weren't unpatriotic, when people marched for voting rights in the 19th Century only to be slaughtered by the kings Cavarly at Peterloo they weren't unpatriotic. You know nothing of British Patriotism

so you would be happy if the CoE changed?

[Harry Smith]

so you would be happy if the CoE changed?

I would be more supportive if they allowed woman to became Bishops

[britishboy]

I would be more supportive if they allowed woman to became Bishops

that's a fair statement, such a watched women should be more careful of what she puts her name to

[TheDeepestDepths]

that's a fair statement, such a watched women should be more careful of what she puts her name to

What do you mean? What's a "watched woman"?

[britishboy]

What do you mean? What's a "watched woman"?

.....what do you think?

[Harry Smith]

.....what do you think?

I too didn't understand.

such a watched women should be more careful of what she puts her name to

What women? What is she putting her name to? It doesn't make any sense

[britishboy]

I too didn't understand.



What women? What is she putting her name to? It doesn't make any sense

-_- we was talking about the Queen and then tje CoE

[Harry Smith]

-_- we was talking about the Queen and then tje CoE

we was talking!

Yes we were talking about that, I'm not alone in falling to understand you. I still don't know what your going on about, if your saying about that the Queen puts her name to it your wrong.

The Queen has no choice but to be the head of the church, she didn't put her name to it like some sort of charity or investment fund

[britishboy]

we was talking!

Yes we were talking about that, I'm not alone in falling to understand you. I still don't know what your going on about, if your saying about that the Queen puts her name to it your wrong.

The Queen has no choice but to be the head of the church, she didn't put her name to it like some sort of charity or investment fund

-_- I seriously wunder what goes on in your head, I'm no longer posting about this? it's pathetic

[Sir Suomi]

Thank you. Concerning your forum picture: What about a boy WITH a horse? :)

Not trying to sound like a jerk, but try to keep all comments relevant to the topic. PM's works much better than trying to communicate over a thread :D

[Harry Smith]

-_- I seriously wunder what goes on in your head, I'm no longer posting about this? it's pathetic

Why is there a question mark after a statement? Your not asking a question, that's pathetic

[TheDeepestDepths]

that's a fair statement, such a watched women should be more careful of what she puts her name to

What do you mean? What's a "watched woman"?

.....what do you think?

I think I understand what you're saying. Your terrible grammar threw me off. If by ''watched women'' do you mean the Queen because she's constantly in the public eye?

And if by ''puts her name to'' you mean being the head of the Church of England then you're simply wrong. She is head of the Church of England simply because she was born. She had literally no choice in the matter.

[tovaris]

i am for full equalety, but unfortunatly it eint at the moment but that will change
when...