Does communism work??

[Yolo98]

Can communism actually work for the workers,and make them happy. It seems to me there are hardly any cases of this happening,maybe in the former Yugoslavia,but i cant think of any others. Are there any countries in which communism has benefited the workers? Examples?

[Nomad_X]

It works on paper.

[Cygnus]

Maybe with a proper leader it could work since most current leaders of communist countries are absolute incompetents

[removeddddd]

If everyone under the communist regime was happy and willing then i think it would.

[Hypers]

It won't work since humans always want more. And that creates inequality.

[Sir Suomi]

In theory, it seems great. Just it's never worked out in real-world scenarios.

[Hyper]

No it wouldn't.

Unless the Dear Leader found some way to rewire every communist workers brain then it wouldn't work the way it is supposed to on paper.

Because it isn't in human nature to share everything or simply want according to need or ''what is best for them''

In reality every so called communist rule so far in history has been the same shit as every other type of rule. A small group of people seizing power and abusing it for their own needs and that of a close circle of friends. In Ex USSR countries the word for that small elite is ''nomenklatura''

[britishboy]

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Winston Churchill

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Communism can't work, it just goes against human nature. Communism works on the principle of working as hard as you can, and getting as much as you need, right? How would I be motivated to work more if I get paid exactly the same?

Communism might seem like a good idea on paper, but it can never work in the real world. If anything, it makes matters worse. Just look at what happened in the USSR.

[tovaris]

There are no counteys with communism in the history...

And yes afcors it can work.

[Stronk Serb]

Can communism actually work for the workers,and make them happy. It seems to me there are hardly any cases of this happening,maybe in the former Yugoslavia,but i cant think of any others. Are there any countries in which communism has benefited the workers? Examples?

Except Yugoslavia, no other countries really worked. All European ones except Yugoslavia were the sattelites of the Soviet Union, and were under their control.

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Winston Churchill

Ahem, Yugoslavia had the best social standards, an it was a communist/socialist republic.

Communism can't work, it just goes against human nature. Communism works on the principle of working as hard as you can, and getting as much as you need, right? How would I be motivated to work more if I get paid exactly the same?

Communism might seem like a good idea on paper, but it can never work in the real world. If anything, it makes matters worse. Just look at what happened in the USSR.

It's an idea that great that humankind cannot implement it yet. I doubt we ever will if we continue like this.

[Hyper]

There are no counteys with communism in the history...

And yes afcors it can work.

Yeah maybe just maybe there is a reason for that.

[tovaris]

Yeah maybe just maybe there is a reason for that.

Afcors, the human race is made to work together towards a comon goal.

[britishboy]

I thought I would make this big because no one remembers this... THERE COULD NEVER BE TRUE EQUALITY

[TheDeepestDepths]

Communism is a wonderful idea when you don't take human nature into account. Human nature acts against the ideas of communism in both the workers and the overall leader. The workers will always want more and humans aren't equipped to have as much power as a communist leader would have. They'd go mad with it.

[Stronk Serb]

I thought I would make this big because no one remembers this... THERE COULD NEVER BE TRUE EQUALITY


It can, but some people do not wish it and will stop it.

[britishboy]

It can, but some people do not wish it and will stop it.

its theft thats why and ok who gets the houses with over 8 bedrooms, and a shack in kenya?

[Stronk Serb]

its theft thats why and ok who gets the houses with over 8 bedrooms, and a shack in kenya?

Call it whatever you wish. I remain strong to my beliefs.

[britishboy]

Call it whatever you wish. I remain strong to my beliefs.

you conveniently avoided my question, who gets the house's belonging to the higher class and who gets an African shack?

[tovaris]

you conveniently avoided my question, who gets the house's belonging to the higher class and who gets an African shack?

the ansver is simple no one gets ether... Whel not realy but in the esence someone living in the african plains requiers only a shak but those pesqy gigant houses will be devived

[britishboy]

the ansver is simple no one gets ether... Whel not realy but in the esence someone living in the african plains requiers only a shak but those pesqy gigant houses will be devived

Okay, who gets the marble staircases? The staff, the fine cars?

[Stronk Serb]

you conveniently avoided my question, who gets the house's belonging to the higher class and who gets an African shack?


Ah, so it was a question. So, if we were to have communist equality, everybody would have a nice home, a summer holiday house, a winter holiday house etc. There are enough materials, workforce is more then available, space is just too much, and we have tired workers wishing to have a vacation. This can be applied if we have a Socialist World Republic. But it will not succeed unless you remove greed, and introduce people to the idea of a SWP. It will take lots of time to do that.

[tovaris]

Okay, who gets the marble staircases? The staff, the fine cars?

Every case would be diferent but most gigant houses could be devided into multy apartment houses, this has been tried and tested usualy sucsesfuly. Tge staff will get other jobs, the burguazy does not own them you know... The cars hmmm, sold out of country or devided betveen the working nation, if realy old they would go to museum.

[Yolo98]

Every case would be diferent but most gigant houses could be devided into multy apartment houses, this has been tried and tested usualy sucsesfuly. Tge staff will get other jobs, the burguazy does not own them you know... The cars hmmm, sold out of country or devided betveen the working nation, if realy old they would go to museum.

The buildings created by the Soviet government looked grim and horrible. Even though they did provide shelter for people they were eyesoars.

[tovaris]

The buildings created by the Soviet government looked grim and horrible. Even though they did provide shelter for people they were eyesoars.

how on earth did you maie that conection, what do stalinists have to do with this?

[Yolo98]

how on earth did you maie that conection, what do stalinists have to do with this?

Im just making a point . I wouldnt have liked to be brought up in the soviet union, it was a grim place.

[tovaris]

Im just making a point . I wouldnt have liked to be brought up in the soviet union, it was a grim place.

stil dont get how you conected totalitarium soviet arhitecture with welth redistribution

[britishboy]

Ah, so it was a question. So, if we were to have communist equality, everybody would have a nice home, a summer holiday house, a winter holiday house etc. There are enough materials, workforce is more then available, space is just too much, and we have tired workers wishing to have a vacation. This can be applied if we have a Socialist World Republic. But it will not succeed unless you remove greed, and introduce people to the idea of a SWP. It will take lots of time to do that.
ok but everyone will want a nice view, who decides who gets the nice views? and unless you kill billions, 6.9 billion people can not have the 3 houses, unless theyre even smaller than poor people houses
Every case would be diferent but most gigant houses could be devided into multy apartment houses, this has been tried and tested usualy sucsesfuly. Tge staff will get other jobs, the burguazy does not own them you know... The cars hmmm, sold out of country or devided betveen the working nation, if realy old they would go to museum.
I thought you was making a world republic? sell them to who? and sure split them but there would still be marble staircases and if everyone was the same, this world will be boring

[Yolo98]

Look at Romania. They created a parliment which costed millions of pounds at the expense of the population. Do you call that redistribution of wealth?

[tovaris]

ok but everyone will want a nice view, who decides who gets the nice views? and unless you kill billions, 6.9 billion people can not have the 3 houses, unless theyre even smaller than poor people houses

I thought you was making a world republic? sell them to who? and sure split them but there would still be marble staircases and if everyone was the same, this world will be boring

when the final product(world republic) is deliverd there will be no more redistribution question, the original point is therefor eliminated

[britishboy]

when the final product(world republic) is deliverd there will be no more redistribution question, the original point is therefor eliminated

so who gets marble? fine wines? staff? the nice cars? the holidays? the holiday homes? you can't just give them away!

[tovaris]

so who gets marble? fine wines? staff? the nice cars? the holidays? the holiday homes? you can't just give them away!

ded people and inportant public hals get marble
fine wines are drunk by those who whis at ocasions that call for them
noone gets personal staf
everione has nice cars
everione goes on holydays in their holydayhome

[Yolo98]

ded people and inportant public hals get marble
fine wines are drunk by those who whis at ocasions that call for them
noone gets personal staf
everione has nice cars
everione goes on holydays in their holydayhome

It sounds like a perfect existence , but it can never be achieved.

[britishboy]

ded people and inportant public hals get marble
fine wines are drunk by those who whis at ocasions that call for them
noone gets personal staf
everione has nice cars
everione goes on holydays in their holydayhome

ok if I want a nice view, how do I get it? I cant out bid people so whats a fair way to decide?

[Harry Smith]

How many more threads do we need to establish that communism doesn't work in practice?

[tovaris]

ok if I want a nice view, how do I get it? I cant out bid people so whats a fair way to decide?

lotery

[Plasma]

People dont like communism, but I believe it works wonders.

[irishmaniac2000]

What "works" anf what doesnt is just based on popular belief

[Tree96]

No it can't. And it's not even a good idea ON paper. It is a crazy idea that goes against human nature.

[Thephantomllama]

It could work with a good leader and a willing public. The ussr didnt work because of its corrupt leadership, but until Chavez died Venezuela was communist and it seemed to work fine there

[Walter Powers]

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Winston Churchill

"The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money."
-Margaret Thatcher

Love those quotes.

lotery

Lottery! What, are we gonna start having a lottery is for life saving surgery too? No thank you!


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[tovaris]

Lottery! What, are we gonna start having a lottery is for life saving surgery too? No thank you!

The helth sistem works the atandard way with waiding lists.

[britishboy]

"The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money."
-Margaret Thatcher

Love those quotes.
love it:)
Lottery! What, are we gonna start having a lottery is for life saving surgery too? No thank you!
oh come on be realistic! there will be no surgeon because 10 years medical school to get the same pay as a brick layer oddly enough wont motivate him;):rolleyes:

[Walter Powers]

love it and very true!

oh come on be realistic! there will be no surgeon because 10 years medical school to get the same pay as a brick layer oddly enough wont motivate him;):rolleyes:

True, very true!

The helth sistem works the atandard way with waiding lists.

Waiting lists? Communism is terrible if you'd have to be put on a WAITING LIST for a life saving surgery! How can you not see that? If something bad were to happen to me to where I needed an emergency surgury, here in America they could be operating in 20 minutes! That's amazing, and shouldn't be changed!

[tovaris]

True, very true!



Waiting lists? Communism is terrible if you'd have to be put on a WAITING LIST for a life saving surgery! How can you not see that? If something bad were to happen to me to where I needed an emergency surgury, here in America they could be operating in 20 minutes! That's amazing, and shouldn't be changed!

Do you know at all how helth is organised? If you have your leg chopped of by a train you get right in no questions asked if you need a boob job you will never get it. That exists alredy and shouldent be changed only enproved

[britishboy]

Do you know at all how helth is organised? If you have your leg chopped of by a train you get right in no questions asked if you need a boob job you will never get it. That exists alredy and shouldent be changed only enproved

it will be changed when theres no doctors:rolleyes: and the surgeons who do boob jobs dont amputate/ sort out amputated legs;)

[EternalSadness]

I think that communism could work. Unfortunately it has been tried out in places full of corruption, war, or other things that just generally upset the balance of an economy and ultimately the success of communism itself. I feel that is the case for capitalism also, it is undermined by things which devalue the system as a whole, and add to the fact that capitalism is essentially a financial survival of the fittest, places need to succeed and fail, that's just how it works, but quantitative easing and bailouts screw it up and so that too doesn't work. It works on paper, but fails in practice I feel, like capitalism does.

[Vocabulous]

nothing works. somethings just work for longer.

[EternalSadness]

"The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money."
-Margaret Thatcher

Love those quotes.



Lottery! What, are we gonna start having a lottery is for life saving surgery too? No thank you!


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

You are aware that this is the same Margaret Thatcher who had a public funeral forced on to the taxpayer at £3.6million when they are forced to make tons of public workers redundant? Who sold off a LOT of oil, and other things, when it was clear they were only going to increase in price over time? Who destroyed most of the mining jobs which would've heavily benefitted our economy much like Germany's manufacturing industry? I wouldn't use her as an economic rolemodel...

[laurakoller0815]

yeah i heart about this at school last time. i think each kind of system has its adavantages and disadvantages. we saw that this system wont work. soviet union fall apart other countries fallowed. the history showed us which political system works and which not.

[Stronk Serb]

yeah i heart about this at school last time. i think each kind of system has its adavantages and disadvantages. we saw that this system wont work. soviet union fall apart other countries fallowed. the history showed us which political system works and which not.

It could work but after Lenin, the USSR stopped being socialist. Stalin laid the foundations of the Soviet downfall.