View Full Version : Bestiality: Is It Wrong?
PeterPanMan
July 26th, 2013, 04:55 PM
I want to know, is it morally wrong? What if the animal likes it? Haven't found any posts like this so I thought I'd make one.
Harley Quinn
July 26th, 2013, 05:25 PM
Well an animal has no consent so how can they like it?
DerBear
July 26th, 2013, 05:35 PM
Teen Sexuality :arrow: Ramblings of the Wise
This is a debate and should be place here.
I agree with Siobhan, animals have no method of consent and therefore we can't prove if they're willing and therefore it is wrong.
I do think however, bestiality is wrong even if animals did have a method of consent.
britishboy
July 26th, 2013, 05:39 PM
it's rape, and to be honest, if your sexually attracted to animals I would keep it quite.... you will get bullied
Harry Smith
July 26th, 2013, 05:43 PM
Would you have sex with someone if they passed out? It's the same as that, the animal cannot give consent. It's absolutely terrible I think, it can cause injuries for the animal and it's just a bit weird
TheDeepestDepths
July 26th, 2013, 05:52 PM
In most countries it's illegal under crimes against nature and animal abuse laws.
Personally I think it morally wrong because consent is not when there is no 'no' it's when there is a 'yes'. An animal cannot tell you yes, ergo there is no consent.
StoppingTime
July 26th, 2013, 05:55 PM
In most countries it's illegal under crimes against nature and animal abuse laws.
Personally I think it morally wrong because consent is not when there is no 'no' it's when there is a 'yes'. An animal cannot tell you yes, ergo there is no consent.
This. It isn't that animals won't or can't give consent, it's that animals do not know that consent exists (and can't), therefore it'd be impossible for one to give consent. As mentioned, consent is saying 'yes,' it isn't having the ability or wanting to say yes or no.
teen.jpg
July 26th, 2013, 06:28 PM
I agree with all you guys, but don't tell him he's weird or is going to be bullied. He doesn't need to be told that.
To the OP, don't act on these ideas because it's not worth the trouble.
Grand Admiral Thrawn
July 26th, 2013, 06:40 PM
Like the others have said, it's morally wrong because animals can't give consent. It's just...wrong, unnatural.
PeterPanMan
July 26th, 2013, 06:40 PM
To everyone so far: Thank you for your insight, reason I posted this was because I was curious about what people think about it. I'd like to say that I am recovering from severe attraction towards animals.
Thanks!
Trenton_
July 26th, 2013, 07:05 PM
I want to know, is it morally wrong? What if the animal likes it? Haven't found any posts like this so I thought I'd make one.
i think everyone should strive to have the best personality and can not imagine how that could be wrong.
Yolo98
July 26th, 2013, 07:08 PM
Of course it is. Im sure the animal involved would not consent either.
Jess
July 26th, 2013, 07:47 PM
Yes, because the animal didn't give consent and can't.
Moondust
July 26th, 2013, 11:38 PM
Are there not enough attractive humans? 0_o
Well, I'm a Christian and it clearly states that, unlike homosexuals who ARE human, if a guy or girl does it with an animal, they will burn in Hell :)
Sexual relations should not be had unless both members give clear consent, which animals can't, and even if they could, it would still be wrong in every sense of the word. Please, keep animals as pets and not relatives -_-
chrisf55
July 27th, 2013, 01:07 AM
Well if you can find an animal that will tell you he likes it, go right ahead.
freakyindiangurl
July 27th, 2013, 05:33 AM
It really comes down to the whole consent thing. animals can not consent to having sex yet they are able to perform sex with whatever and whoever regardless. so in the law yes it is illegal. but in honestly if humans and animals were able to communicate between each other it would be a completely different outcome and human animal relations would be a everyday occurrence.
Jon1903
July 27th, 2013, 06:02 AM
Just not ment to be...
Bobbybobby99
July 27th, 2013, 06:34 AM
While sex with animal is Gennerally traumatizing for the animal as a sort of rape, in the event that we find a way for an animal to give consent (translators or genetic engineering or something of that sort) I would have nothing against those who have sex with animals with said animals consent. In addition, I have absoulutely nothing against the marrying of a human and an animal, so long as there is no forced sexuality and the animal is reasonably intelligent(for an animal). You can love an animal romantically perfectly well, and if said animal gives emotional basic consent to the act of asexual marrage, then I am fine with that. (No I am not a beastaliac, I simply believe in equality.)
Jean Poutine
July 27th, 2013, 05:10 PM
I don't know man, if an orangutan tries to have sex with you and you let him, is that "bestiality"?
An animal can give consent, it's called trying to fuck you. Primates have been known to attempt to have sex with humans before, so are dolphins.
Taryn98
July 27th, 2013, 05:13 PM
This is disturbing to me
Cygnus
July 27th, 2013, 05:13 PM
It is wrong because animals don't actually feel attracted to people.
Tze-
July 28th, 2013, 12:11 AM
It is wrong because animals don't actually feel attracted to people.
Really? Did one tell you that?
Owait...
RoseyCadaver
July 28th, 2013, 01:01 AM
I don't find it disgusting,just not my cup of tea. However animals can't consent, so I think it's wrong in the sense you shouldn't have sex with things or people that don't or can't consent...if that makes sense...?
Jevon
July 28th, 2013, 01:04 AM
Yes I find it wrong and disturbing and just it's weird
Avatia
July 28th, 2013, 09:32 AM
To the majority of the posts before mine:
What is it about lack of consent that makes something morally reprehensible?
Harley Quinn
July 28th, 2013, 09:33 AM
Really? Did one tell you that?
Owait...
What animal do you know that's attracted to humans?
Bath
July 28th, 2013, 09:47 AM
Yes. Bestiality is morally wrong because the animal cannot consent to sex. It's rape and animal abuse.
What is it about lack of consent that makes something morally reprehensible?
Um maybe because if somebody/someone/something doesn't give consent then they don't want to do it?? You have no way of knowing. Sex is consensual. Always. It goes hand in hand. If it's not consensual, it's not sex, it's rape.
Avatia
July 28th, 2013, 10:07 AM
Yes. Bestiality is morally wrong because the animal cannot consent to sex. It's rape and animal abuse.
Um maybe because if somebody/someone/something doesn't give consent then they don't want to do it?? You have no way of knowing. Sex is consensual. Always. It goes hand in hand. If it's not consensual, it's not sex, it's rape.
Is it true that if some person does not want to do something then that something is morally wrong?
Furthermore, I may not give consent to something, but this does not mean necessarily that I don't want to do it.
Consent implies that I want to do something. Lack of consent doesn't imply anything.
Troy35216
July 28th, 2013, 10:10 AM
To the majority of the posts before mine:
What is it about lack of consent that makes something morally reprehensible?
why don't you ask some rape victims. or some kids who were molested.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9ee25f88c297e48ec5c8d0cc9e8d28f2/tumblr_mqnjfj8Sba1sb0cywo1_400.jpg
Avatia
July 28th, 2013, 10:12 AM
why don't you ask some rape victims. or some kids who were molested.
image (http://24.media.tumblr.com/9ee25f88c297e48ec5c8d0cc9e8d28f2/tumblr_mqnjfj8Sba1sb0cywo1_400.jpg)
I'm asking the people here. If any of them happen to be part of the above two, then their answers would be acceptable, too.
I also don't see why I'd hold the answers of rape victims or molested kids above anyone else's.
Troy35216
July 28th, 2013, 10:58 AM
you asked why failure to give consent makes it wrong. rape victims and molested kids didn't give consent. that's why I would think you would hold their answers higher--because they are directly related to your point. at least now I have the answer to my question. definitely trolling and I have better things to do than feed the trolls. on to the next thread for me.
Avatia
July 28th, 2013, 11:04 AM
you asked why failure to give consent makes it wrong. rape victims and molested kids didn't give consent. that's why I would think you would hold their answers higher--because they are directly related to your point. at least now I have the answer to my question. definitely trolling and I have better things to do than feed the trolls. on to the next thread for me.
They are entirely unrelated to the point.
Someone not giving consent and being raped has nothing at all to do with the explanation of why it would be wrong to do something without the consent of another.
As well, I'm sure it's the decision of only rational people to call someone a troll and run away just because they ask you questions that you're unable to answer.
Camazotz
July 28th, 2013, 11:16 AM
Someone not giving consent and being raped has nothing at all to do with the explanation of why it would be wrong to do something without the consent of another.
No consent=rape
Rape=wrong
Therefore...
No consent=wrong
Edit: User was banned while I made my response. No need to discuss this argument any further.
Human
July 28th, 2013, 04:08 PM
Although I have no problem with the actual idea of people urm... liking animals (I have no problems with furries for example), I think that carrying out the physical fantasy of bestiality would not only be hard, but could definitely be considered rape but there would be a few factors.
Tze-
July 29th, 2013, 02:39 AM
What animal do you know that's attracted to humans?
I don't, and I never said I did.
britishboy
July 29th, 2013, 06:42 AM
you can also do alot of harm to the animal
Sir Suomi
July 29th, 2013, 12:36 PM
No. Just no. I hate to sound rude, but that absolutely disgusts me. As others have stated, the fact that the animal cannot, in any way, consent to it, it's morally wrong. If you're having these urges, I'd suggest getting... Help.
Aajj333
July 30th, 2013, 12:06 AM
This sounds like a great way to create new STDs
CharlieHorse
July 30th, 2013, 12:22 AM
I asked this before, but didn't get a good answer.
What if an animal comes on to you? Like you're sleeping, and all of a sudden a horse is grinding your ass?
nice
July 30th, 2013, 12:46 AM
I asked this before, but didn't get a good answer.
What if an animal comes on to you? Like you're sleeping, and all of a sudden a horse is grinding your ass?
That's still fucked up and nasty. I honestly think anyone that'd have sex with an animal would have a screw or two loose.
Plasma
July 30th, 2013, 12:48 AM
I would think that people doing this would spread stds that are normally only in dogs
freakyindiangurl
August 2nd, 2013, 01:46 AM
I would think that people doing this would spread stds that are normally only in dogs
I don't think you can catch a std that is only in dogs as some stds are species specific. but there are infections called zoonoses you can catch. I think it is pretty low to get one though. otherwise can you imagine trying to tell the person you are with how you have a zoonoses disease lol.
tovaris
August 3rd, 2013, 03:39 PM
Afcors it is moraly wrong.
And i personaly fail to see why conpletly diferent species should interact in suck a way.
Mikeline16
August 3rd, 2013, 03:56 PM
Watch some and see if the animal is enjoying it or not
If they're receiving then probably not if they're giving and you consent it's weird as fuck but doesn't seriously affect anyone I guess
Slippers
September 5th, 2013, 03:11 PM
It's utterly wrong because as other people have alluded to, the animal is incapable of giving consent.
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