lesbian sex

[ArtistInNeed]

if two lesbians have sex..arent they still considered virgins? there was no penis to vagina contact sooo wat does it mean? doesnt that mean that they only foreplayed?

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Well, they would probably still be considered virgins, as their was no vaginal penetration with a penis, no "intercourse"

[Sapphire]

I would disagree. To be a virgin is to say that you have never had sex.
But to be sexual like that with another female is to have lesbian sex and therefore they would have lost their virginity. A lot of people, myself included, differentiate between virginity with females and with males.

[Sugaree]

well I would say that if it's lesbians then it would be considered sex since both of the sex organs are in contact correct? Then it would be considered sex.

[Gumleaf]

i would say yes and agree with carole. then you could argue that all lesbians are virgins.

[Sugaree]

Well I'm not saying they are. It's just very convincing that the definition of sex in the dictionary is "The joining of the male and female sex organs" It never said anything that when lesbians have sex doesn't mean they are still virgins.

[Sapphire]

Well I'm not saying they are. It's just very convincing that the definition of sex in the dictionary is "The joining of the male and female sex organs" It never said anything that when lesbians have sex doesn't mean they are still virgins.

If you take that definition then sex between gay males and lesbian females doesn't exist. But we all know that's wrong.

[Gumleaf]

lets just throw the dictionary out then.

[Underground_Network]

^^ If that was not sarcastic, I agree, if that was sarcastic...I think that if you have had "lesbian sex", you have technically lost your virginity. It really depends what you see virginity as. Do you see it as something you lose after a girl or guy has been penetrated, or as something that you lose after participating in any type of sexual activity with a guy or girl. Arguing that having lesbian sex is a way of losing your virginity, could also in a way show that oral sex is a way of losing your virginity. I think it all comes down to what you perceive virginity as.

[Sapphire]

The argument that lesbians don't have sex as per the definition in the dictionary don't technically have sex and as such don't lose any aspect of their virginity is a rather offensive thing to say.

[Glasgow]

Im sorry but I must ask, what exactly is lesbian sex and what does it consist of?

[Sapphire]

Lesbian sex can combine/cover any sexual activity other than penetration.

[Sugaree]

If you take that definition then sex between gay males and lesbian females doesn't exist. But we all know that's wrong.

Now I would like to say first off that I'm not saying that two males having intercourse or two females having intercourse is wrong. I never said that.

It's just that the dictionary says that sex is "the joining of the male and female sex organs"

Now on the base of virginity.......well, I'm just going to leave that for all of you to decide.

[Serenity]

And no one at all was suggesting that you implied it was wrong...what Carole was saying was wrong was the idea the lesbians and gays CAN'T have sex, not that they DO.

Virginity and the losing of it is different for everyone, it's just your belief. Does oral take away your virginity, does anal, do handjobs, etc. It's all about what you personally feel, with all the different sexual acts around there's no set definition for anything. There isn't even a set definition for 'male' or 'female' because so many people who don't fit those categories precisely are now choosing to remain as they were born, which is somewhere between the two and a specification they come up with for themselves .

[byee]

It depend on your definition of 'virgin'. If it means penis to vagina contact, then anything else leaves you technically a virgin.

If you define sex as contact between 2 people of a sexual nature, then, no, gays (or horny teenagers who have oral sex) are not virgins.

I think the important thing isn't so much the esoteric nature of the question, but the somewhat judgemental and demeaning implications of the emotional connotation of anything other than penis/vagina sex. If you look at the importance and value of emotional attachment as a primary purpose of being sexual, then contact between 2 loving people in a committed reltionship is both equal and of the same value, regardless of their gender.

[ArtistInNeed]

wow i didnt mean to cause such a controversy, i was only wondering XD thank you tho. i just wasnt sure if you would consider that "sex" instead of "foreplay"

[MoveAlong]

Yea I understand what you're saying, and I hope it's not too late to answer.

Personally I think virginity shouldn't be a rule. It should not be made to where you have to have a penis and a vagina in order to have real sex and therefore break virginity. I think that virginity is used in context with the person's sexual orientation.

Because see, with each sexuality (let's just take gay, straight and lesbian for instance), there are many ways to do things...oral, vaginal, anal, frot (aka scissoring and the male to male frot) and stuff like that. Since there's so many ways to do things, a couple can have individual sexual preferences based on oral, vaginal, anal, and frot. Gay couples may choose oral and anal, or oral and frot, or just frot, or just anal, etc. Out-of-the-ordinary straight couples may not like vaginal intercorse, maybe for contraceptive reasons. But if they have sex through any of the other ways, are they still considered to be virgins?

to me, sex is a very loving experience. In gay couples, you can have romance through oral or anal. With lesbians, same thing, somehow.:P I think it depends on the context. Whatever you do that is not masturbation and not foreplay with someone, I consider sex. Whether you've tried one thing or another is just defined as "I've never tried that"
ya im a confusing person

I agree very much so with IAMSAM

[ArtistInNeed]

thanks, that helps. um wat is frot tho?

[nelly]

nop i think theyre still considered virgins because scince there was no penis contact it like masturbating exept with a partner.............

[MoveAlong]

thanks, that helps. um wat is frot tho?

gential rubbing. it's the friction. Like two guys rub dicks, or two girls rub pussies. I know it sounds stupid but hey you hear about it all the time.

[ArtistInNeed]

do they cum? or is it just for stimulation? i dont quite understand..i can understand the rubbing together of pussies..but dicks? would that feel good?

[Serenity]

As with anything, whatever floats your boat. People are turned on and stimulated by different things.

[MoveAlong]

do they cum? or is it just for stimulation? i dont quite understand..i can understand the rubbing together of pussies..but dicks? would that feel good?

so i've heard, it's kinda of like a guy laying on the ground with a boner and rubbing back and fourth. It's stimulation. but HAHAHAHAHAHA cant get into details, if you want any more information then you will have to look it up

[hisfavgirl]

One of my closest friends is a lesbo, and there arent any other lesbos in our area. Im streight, but sometimes we have sex. Is that ok?

[Skittlez1313]

Hmmm..I would say...They aren't virgins. Who said they had to break they're hymens to be...Umm Un...virgin...ated? Good question though