Rich People

[Zelder]

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

[Hypers]

The reason why rich people are rich is that they have done something meaningful for people to give them money.

Society is unequal. Nothing can be done. Thats just how it is. There is a set amount of money in this world, and people who know how to make money generally get more and more and more.

[AyVannah]

I agree with Zelder :/
Most rich people I know just sit on their butts all day. But they're the kids of jerk-ish rich people. They shouldn't be so..mean!!! Yeah, they're popular and have a LOT of money. But why bring others down? Why make fun of the poorer and less fortunate? It is wrong and ticks me off. I had a rich boyfriend once and he was a douche. Really. He does nothing to get his money and stuff. He's spoiled. He thinks he owns everyone. He has no respect for women or others. It's okay if you're rich, I don't CARE about money! But if you flaunt it, have no respect because of it, you're overly-arrogant... That pisses me off! Their parents are smart enough to make money, so why aren't they smart enough to teach their kid(a) RESPECT?

[Harry Smith]

I have respect for someone who has earned their money, it does require hard work and skill. The one thing I can't stand is people who live off their parents wealth and try and act like it's theirs. Then there's the whole I'm better than you complex, well done you have of the most common things in the world

[Origami]

I have respect for someone who has earned their money, it does require hard work and skill. The one thing I can't stand is people who live off their parents wealth and try and act like it's theirs. Then there's the whole I'm better than you complex, well done you have of the most common things in the world

Essentially this. It's one thing to earn your wealth and be opposed to being taxed higher, I mean you worked your fucking ass off for it. People with a lot of inheritance however need to remember how much they themselves earned.

[Jenny jr]

I respect the self made millionaires but do not respect the ones that receive lots of money. I know you say they are aregent but if you were rich odds are you would be the same.

[Anton's Key]

If they have millions then it's more than likely that they earned that. Why shouldn't they enjoy their money? Their kids however didn't earn it and can definitely be annoying. Sometimes I think their thought process is- I have X item so i'm that much better than them- But who knows.

[Jasperf]

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

I feel like you are being extremely stereo typical here! I don't care if I get hate, I'm just gonna say it. My family is rich, and all of my family friends have money. None of them sit on there ass. All your comparing yourself too is the glitz and the glam of having money. If you want to bring ceo's into it, there is a reason that they are all mostly old, because they have worked there way up. Just because I have money in my pocket doesn't mean that I race out and buy what ever, infact I think that people with money have a greater respect for it then those without, because they have the opportunity to waste it like you dream about doing. You don't think that rich people help, the higher percentage of people with money donate more money to charity then you will see in your life.

[Seth.]

Rich people who are jerks are jerks period. I've known of rich people who are not like that. They don't think of themselves as better, just more fortunate and treat everyone the same. Plus they give a lot back that helps many more people than I ever could.

[TapDancer]

The reason why rich people are rich is that they have done something meaningful for people to give them money.

Society is unequal. Nothing can be done. Thats just how it is. There is a set amount of money in this world, and people who know how to make money generally get more and more and more.

I hate to agree, but, this is right. I am okay with people earning their money rightfully, but, I think rich people need more of an understanding of where most of other people come from. Having said that, not all rich people are snobs, and thats okay. I mean, take Bill Gates, if he dropped $100 it would literally not be worth his time to pick it up. I mean, I'm sure he has his own rich guilty pleasure, but he works for his money, never complains how much he gets taxed, lives comfortably, but never buys completely unnecessary things to show off his wealth. The fact that he gives away a good amount of money is credit to him as well.

[chrisawesome]

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

!!! WARNING, ENRAGED REPUBLICAN !!!
Ok, lets say that I make $10 an hour at McDonalds and you make $12 an hour at Jack-in-the-Box. You should give me the extra 2 dollars you earned because you didn't earn it!!! That is unfair. Just like how the democratic party determines taxes. What really pisses me off is when people ask,'' do millionaires really need that money?'' ---Those people who claim to ''work their butts off'' didn't spend 30 years trying to build a company from the ground up when there are thousands of competitors around the world that they try to get ahead of. Praying that the next day you wont be bankrupt!! Now that is harder work than watching a machine do all the work for you!!

About the private schools, you should have a choice to attend any kind of school you want, as long as you can afford it. Might I also add, there are people who live in shacks have 8 kids so they can save money by using foodstamps so they can buy their $65,000 Escalade. I have an aunt that makes around $100,000 and the most expensive car she can afford is a $60,000 car with 2 kids. So why take from the rich to give to the poor so they can have what we have.
Do they have a college education. NO
Do you need to spend 14 years in medical school to work at a fast food restraunt? NO
Does a bum deserve my money when I work hard N-O

Oh by the way, taking away from the rich because they make more than you. That sounds like Communism

Essentially this. It's one thing to earn your wealth and be opposed to being taxed higher, I mean you worked your fucking ass off for it. People with a lot of inheritance however need to remember how much they themselves earned.

Yeah, then they get taxed for inheritance!!! Why take from a dead person. The government is grave robbing :mad::mad::mad::mad:


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[Jasperf]

!!! WARNING, ENRAGED REPUBLICAN !!!
Ok, lets say that I make $10 an hour at McDonalds and you make $12 an hour at Jack-in-the-Box. You should give me the extra 2 dollars you earned because you didn't earn it!!! That is unfair. Just like how the democratic party determines taxes. What really pisses me off is when people ask,'' do millionaires really need that money?'' ---Those people who claim to ''work their butts off'' didn't spend 30 years trying to build a company from the ground up when there are thousands of competitors around the world that they try to get ahead of. Praying that the next day you wont be bankrupt!! Now that is harder work than watching a machine do all the work for you!!

About the private schools, you should have a choice to attend any kind of school you want, as long as you can afford it. Might I also add, there are people who live in shacks have 8 kids so they can save money by using foodstamps so they can buy their $65,000 Escalade. I have an aunt that makes around $100,000 and the most expensive car she can afford is a $60,000 car with 2 kids. So why take from the rich to give to the poor so they can have what we have.
Do they have a college education. NO
Do you need to spend 14 years in medical school to work at a fast food restraunt? NO
Does a bum deserve my money when I work hard N-O

Oh by the way, taking away from the rich because they make more than you. That sounds like Communism

Thank you!
P.s it also sounds like someone's a bit Jealous

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

The moral of the story is, some people are arrogant, rich or not.


Merged double post. ~StoppingTime

[Adam17]

!!! WARNING, ENRAGED REPUBLICAN !!!
Ok, lets say that I make $10 an hour at McDonalds and you make $12 an hour at Jack-in-the-Box. You should give me the extra 2 dollars you earned because you didn't earn it!!! That is unfair. Just like how the democratic party determines taxes. What really pisses me off is when people ask,'' do millionaires really need that money?'' ---Those people who claim to ''work their butts off'' didn't spend 30 years trying to build a company from the ground up when there are thousands of competitors around the world that they try to get ahead of. Praying that the next day you wont be bankrupt!! Now that is harder work than watching a machine do all the work for you!!

About the private schools, you should have a choice to attend any kind of school you want, as long as you can afford it. Might I also add, there are people who live in shacks have 8 kids so they can save money by using foodstamps so they can buy their $65,000 Escalade. I have an aunt that makes around $100,000 and the most expensive car she can afford is a $60,000 car with 2 kids. So why take from the rich to give to the poor so they can have what we have.
Do they have a college education. NO
Do you need to spend 14 years in medical school to work at a fast food restraunt? NO
Does a bum deserve my money when I work hard N-O

Oh by the way, taking away from the rich because they make more than you. That sounds like Communism
I like when someone who disagrees with other people immediately decides to label them. I would consider myself more of a Republican and I think that all people should be taxed a set percentage.That would mean a person making 10000 dollars a year with a 10% tax would pay 1000 and a person making 100,000 dollars a year would be taxed 10000 dollars. Yes that is taking more from a rich person but the person making only 10000 would take a bigger hit from it, now is that communism ? And yes services like foodstamps and unemployment are abused it doesn't make everyone on them a bum. What really bothers me was your "sad" story about your aunt who can only afford a 60,000 dollar car, I worked for 3 years to buy my truck for 2,000 and have worked to pay for everything I own. That is the arrogant attitude everyone on here said they hate.
And PS I actually work at McDonalds and make 7.25 a hour and my last check for 49 hours before taxes was 361 and after 297 dollars. Thats about a quarter of my pay I lost to taxes and that money has to last me two weeks because unlike some people I have to pay for my food, gas, and other stuff instead of living off my parents.

[chrisawesome]

I like when someone who disagrees with other people immediately decides to label them. I would consider myself more of a Republican and I think that all people should be taxed a set percentage.That would mean a person making 10000 dollars a year with a 10% tax would pay 1000 and a person making 100,000 dollars a year would be taxed 10000 dollars. Yes that is taking more from a rich person but the person making only 10000 would take a bigger hit from it, now is that communism ? And yes services like foodstamps and unemployment are abused it doesn't make everyone on them a bum. What really bothers me was your "sad" story about your aunt who can only afford a 60,000 dollar car, I worked for 3 years to buy my truck for 2,000 and have worked to pay for everything I own. That is the arrogant attitude everyone on here said they hate.

Ok, are you a straight A student and have a medical degree?

[Adam17]

Ok, are you a straight A student and have a medical degree?

No and honestly there are a lot of people who are stupid as shit and have millions.

[Jevon]

Most rich people work pretty hard for their money and not all of them are arrogant....there are plenty of arrogant lower class people out in the world

[Bougainvillea]

Ok, are you a straight A student and have a medical degree?

I don't see what you're trying to prove with that.

[Sugaree]

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

I don't harbor any ill will towards rich people. My family has never been in the classification of rich, but by the standards of the area we live in...we're considered rich.

I think its unfair to typify an entire class of people to be arrogant or self-centered. Not all rich people are assholes. Look at Bill Gates, who has donated most of his own personal fortune to fighting disease in the world. There's plenty more that go unnoticed, and it's good for them to realize that having money sitting around doesn't really equate to much. I know some people who make well over 250,000 a year, but only use what they need to get by.

Are they entitled to getting tax breaks? Yes, just like everyone else. But are they entitled to abuse the system to their liking and pay much less than is owed? Not at all. You see, this is where hatred for the rich comes from. It's not their perceived arrogance or self-centered attitude, it's the abuse of a few that ruins it for the many. Rich people IN GENERAL are not the enemy. It is the greedy and hoarders of money that are the enemy of the tax system. The tax system in the United States, as it stands, is fairly uneven towards the middle and lower classes. Sure, the upper class deserves just as much tax cuts as the middle class, but when it comes at the expense of the lower classes, those cuts need to go. That's why everyone should be in support of a flat tax system, such as Herman Cain's "9-9-9" plan.

Do I think some rich people are being treated on a more preferential basis? Most certainly. Money talks and it talks a big game in today's world. Wall Street and mostly everything else would crumble without it. Money is power, manipulation, everything all rolled up in a dollar bill. Unfortunately, due to human nature, we will never be rid of this greed and lust for money.

It's ingrained in all of us to succeed and make money, and how far we would go to get to a position of wealth is variable from person to person. But this is no excuse to harbor ill will towards all people who have gained a vast amount of wealth. If you've made a lot of money over the course of your life through smart investments and business, good for you. You definitely deserve some credit and kudos for it. Maybe a tax cut here and there for your profit making. But if you've made your money through manipulating the system, abusing the rights of your workers, and other evil practices, your wealth should simply be stripped and you should be ridiculed.

You see, part of being in America is making it for yourself. But there is a right way to make it and a wrong way to make it. Men like Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, hell, even Donald Trump have all gone about the right way of doing things (granted, Trump probably HAS done some bad practices, and these should not be forgiven just because he has mostly used the good path). What we should start off with, to get rid of the inequality of wealth in this country, is fix the tax system, replace it with a flat tax somewhere between 9 and 15%, and abolish organizations such as the IRS. Government has not made this problem any better, and the IRS has finally gotten too big for its own britches to continue on as a valid government organization. That is how we start making things fair.

[Walter Powers]

Right you are, Fisk.

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

Firstly, your initial statement isn't even a generalization, it's just plain incorrect. Most of the successful people I know, are very concerned people who want to leave this planet having made a positive impact.

Your mentality of lack of appreciation for success isn't just demeaning, it's downright unpatriotic. You said your from Chicago, correct? Well I know it can be a different world in that city, but come on, this goes against EVERYTHING we stand for as a country. Instead of trying to seek success, your resenting it. How is that going to get you anywhere in life?

Guess what, these "rich people" are largely responsible for nearly every single innovation that makes our lives great. Without people who would later or currently were wealthy to invest money and/or invent virtually every major advancement of importance wouldn't exist or would come decades later then it did. iPhones wouldn't exist without "rich people". Personal computers wouldn't exist without "rich people". Airplanes wouldn't exist without "rich people." Affordable yet good quality cars wouldn't exist without "rich people".

And as somebody else pointed out, taking money from all these people would be borderline communism, which if your not aware, has failed miserably and ruined and killed millions of people every time it's been implemented. If you took every penny of profit from the Fortune 500 corporations and every penny anyone made over $250,000, it wouldn't even pay America's bills for one year. And then after that year is up, you'd have economically crippled this country because we'd have no more world leading corporations or wealthy people who invest. It's proven in this YouTube video:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ

This idea that there are hordes of money hidden in the pockets of the wealthy that will solve all our problems is totally false.

The reason why rich people are rich is that they have done something meaningful for people to give them money.

Society is unequal. Nothing can be done. Thats just how it is. There is a set amount of money in this world, and people who know how to make money generally get more and more and more.

Actually, there isn't a set amount of money in this world. Wealth can be created. When I pump oil out of the ground, for example, suddenly there's an asset in the global economy that didn't exist before, and it's in my hands without anybody else having to lose it. That wealth was created.

I agree with Zelder :/
Most rich people I know just sit on their butts all day. But they're the kids of jerk-ish rich people. They shouldn't be so..mean!!! Yeah, they're popular and have a LOT of money. But why bring others down? Why make fun of the poorer and less fortunate? It is wrong and ticks me off. I had a rich boyfriend once and he was a douche. Really. He does nothing to get his money and stuff. He's spoiled. He thinks he owns everyone. He has no respect for women or others. It's okay if you're rich, I don't CARE about money! But if you flaunt it, have no respect because of it, you're overly-arrogant... That pisses me off! Their parents are smart enough to make money, so why aren't they smart enough to teach their kid(a) RESPECT?

Like I said to Zelder, this isn't even a huge generalization, it's just plain untrue for the vast majority of the wealthy. Something like 80% of American millionaires are self made. They certainly do not sit on their butts all day.

I'll say this: I've witnessed people attacking others because they are successful much more then the other way around. Just take one look at the "Occupy Wall Street" movement...unless there is an equivalent movement made up of successful people attacking not-so-successful people that I'm not aware of, this is true.

I'll also say that, in my experience, wealthy kids are more respectful then your average joe. One of my friends from school, his parents make $1 Million + a year from there business, he's one of the most sincere and caring kids my age I've ever met. Yet still once I witnessed him being bullied after his mom dropped him off at school in a Porsche.

[AyVannah]

I mean no disrespect towards the good rich folks out there..:/ I don't mean that all rich people are like that. Nor are all of rich people's kids. At my school, most of the rich people there are quite stuck up. Not to say that all are, but most of the ones I have seen are. My foster parents were rich. They sucked. All they cared about was money..:L so did their other foster kid, Amy. I didn't care. I wasn't the spoiled one, I was kind of just an...onlooker, I guess? Ignored. Anyways, I have seen that side of rich life first hand.
PLEASE know I am NOT trying to diss rich people! I know not all of em are like that. They do great things ^ ^ Most rich people are nice and smart and whatnot.
But so far I haven't met a nice rich person. I am not saying I won't, but I just haven't yet and I've had bad experiences. Sorry if I have offended anyone x:

[Manga]

How stupid.

All rich people are the same, blah blah cry cry. Rich people are just that, PEOPLE. None of them are alike, and the fact that you generalize them to all be ungenerous people is just ignorant. Not to mention, why should they give their money to you or anyone else? This is a free market. Do you try to reduce your taxes as much as possible (I doubt you actually have any bills of any kind tbh)? It is normal to want to keep your money. What did YOU do to earn THEIR money? You should be admiring them, not wallowing in jealousy. You seem more spoiled than they do to be honest. Do you need all of YOUR money? People in Africa, South America, and Asia live on much less than you do. Why aren't you giving all of your spare money to them?

[britishboy]

The reason why rich people are rich is that they have done something meaningful for people to give them money.

Society is unequal. Nothing can be done. Thats just how it is. There is a set amount of money in this world, and people who know how to make money generally get more and more and more.

I completly agree with this

How stupid.

All rich people are the same, blah blah cry cry. Rich people are just that, PEOPLE. None of them are alike, and the fact that you generalize them to all be ungenerous people is just ignorant. Not to mention, why should they give their money to you or anyone else? This is a free market. Do you try to reduce your taxes as much as possible (I doubt you actually have any bills of any kind tbh)? It is normal to want to keep your money. What did YOU do to earn THEIR money? You should be admiring them, not wallowing in jealousy. You seem more spoiled than they do to be honest. Do you need all of YOUR money? People in Africa, South America, and Asia live on much less than you do. Why aren't you giving all of your spare money to them?

and I agree with this

it also should be noted that not all rich men are the same, many devote their lives to charities

[Stronk Serb]

I like when someone who disagrees with other people immediately decides to label them. I would consider myself more of a Republican and I think that all people should be taxed a set percentage.That would mean a person making 10000 dollars a year with a 10% tax would pay 1000 and a person making 100,000 dollars a year would be taxed 10000 dollars. Yes that is taking more from a rich person but the person making only 10000 would take a bigger hit from it, now is that communism ? And yes services like foodstamps and unemployment are abused it doesn't make everyone on them a bum. What really bothers me was your "sad" story about your aunt who can only afford a 60,000 dollar car, I worked for 3 years to buy my truck for 2,000 and have worked to pay for everything I own. That is the arrogant attitude everyone on here said they hate.
And PS I actually work at McDonalds and make 7.25 a hour and my last check for 49 hours before taxes was 361 and after 297 dollars. Thats about a quarter of my pay I lost to taxes and that money has to last me two weeks because unlike some people I have to pay for my food, gas, and other stuff instead of living off my parents.

Agreed, a lot of people who are on welfare are having a job.

No and honestly there are a lot of people who are stupid as shit and have millions.

True. Especially politicians, at least in Serbia. One even said that he made a doctorare in 3 days, without graduating before. I'm pretty sure that many of them haven't finished elementary school.

[Gwen]

As long as they earnt it I don't really care. If someone wasted their life making a fortune and they left it to their jerk ass son/daughter who is an ass, then probably that son/daughter will lose it all without work. Amassing a fortune is one things but growing upon and sustaining it is another. A lot of rich people are kind and smart it's just the assholish ones who make a big deal of it who are known more.

[Hypers]

Actually, there isn't a set amount of money in this world. Wealth can be created. When I pump oil out of the ground, for example, suddenly there's an asset in the global economy that didn't exist before, and it's in my hands without anybody else having to lose it. That wealth was created.

There is the new asset, but the money that exists on earth is not increased to accommodate for that asset. In other words, money is not created, but transferred to whoever found that asset.

[Walter Powers]

There is the new asset, but the money that exists on earth is not increased to accommodate for that asset. In other words, money is not created, but transferred to whoever found that asset.

Either way, everybody's better off because that asset was found.

[Southside]

Either way, everybody's better off because that asset was found.

Can you give me your take about "rich people" who own "rich companies" shipping our American jobs overseas and raping 3rd world countries?

[Walter Powers]

Can you give me your take about "rich people" who own "rich companies" shipping our American jobs overseas and raping 3rd world countries?

Uh sure maybe in another thread. I did an entire 6 paragraph essay in school on how that can benefit our economy, I have plenty of ideas in that area.

And they aren't raping their world countries; they're giving them jobs! Butthat's a subject for another thread.

[Hyper]

There is a set amount of money in this world.

Lol what?

As for people who have money knowing how to make more money.

Funny thing about capital is that it responds amazingly well to the law of gravity

[comical]

!!! WARNING, ENRAGED REPUBLICAN !!!


Runnnnnnnnnnn! jk.. lol.

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I'd like to point out that there is a huge difference between rich people who work hard, and rich people who sit soft. If a person works hard and earned their wealth, through legal and unselfish means, I see no problem with it. If a person sits on their two cheeks all day and makes money off of other people, that's where I see a problem.

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

Both of my parents as well as a good portion of my family are successful. No, no one in my family has ever attended a private school. No, no one in my family avoids paying their taxes or tax hikes. No one in my family opposes helping the poor. My mom is even in charge of a NPO that creates job opportunities, entertainment functions, summer programs, etc for less fortunate inner-city teens. Your post is really an uninformed stereotype.

I'll also say that, in my experience, wealthy kids are more respectful then your average joe. One of my friends from school, his parents make $1 Million + a year from there business, he's one of the most sincere and caring kids my age I've ever met. Yet still once I witnessed him being bullied after his mom dropped him off at school in a Porsche.

I beg to differ. I think it all depends on the person. My school is full of rich kids, but due to it's rural location, lots of lower-class 'trailer park kids' attend the school too. Most of my classmates are very closeminded and disrespectful to the other kids, while the 'trailer park kids' are very humble and respectful. I've witnessed these kids get called 'white trash', 'trailer park trash', etc. So yeah, it really depends on the person and their morals/upbringing.

[Taryn98]

This sounds like an opinion from someone that doesn't understand economics, business, and has very limited exposure to the "rich".

[AyVannah]

This sounds like an opinion from someone that doesn't understand economics, business, and has very limited exposure to the "rich".

Or an opinion from someone who has had a bad experience with the rich. I know not all rich people are like that, so the person was somewhat wrong. But their are some pretty rude rich people. Some of the rich are really awesome! And then some are not so awesome. Just depends on their personality.

[Taryn98]

Or an opinion from someone who has had a bad experience with the rich. I know not all rich people are like that, so the person was somewhat wrong. But their are some pretty rude rich people. Some of the rich are really awesome! And then some are not so awesome. Just depends on their personality.

That could be said about any group of people though, rich, poor, black or white, men or women, gay or straight, republican or democrat, etc. That's why when you form an opinion based on a small group of people that isn't representative of the group as a whole, your conclusions are generally very skewed.

Imagine if I posted a thread where I made the same conclusion because I was robbed by a black person and therefore said all black people are bad. Everyone would claim racism or that I'm ignorant or a hate monger, which would be a fair assessment. Unless you have a broad understanding and experience with the subject you're talking about, your conclusions aren't very valid.

[tovaris]

Mo no person needs miliones, that is why i believe in the avantual redistribution of welth and a world witout money.

[AyVannah]

That could be said about any group of people though, rich, poor, black or white, men or women, gay or straight, republican or democrat, etc. That's why when you form an opinion based on a small group of people that isn't representative of the group as a whole, your conclusions are generally very skewed.

Imagine if I posted a thread where I made the same conclusion because I was robbed by a black person and therefore said all black people are bad. Everyone would claim racism or that I'm ignorant or a hate monger, which would be a fair assessment. Unless you have a broad understanding and experience with the subject you're talking about, your conclusions aren't very valid.

These are just OPINIONS! I, for one, am not saying that ALL rich people suck. I know that there are some AMAZING rich folks. Just like there are crappy ones. It depends on the PERSONALITY behind the person. And yes, I UNDERSTAND it could be said about any group of people. And I am not saying that I believe all rich people are mean and arrogant. My opinion is some are, some aren't. You know that there are some arrogant rich people out there who are just plain mean. And I know there are some amazingly sweet rich people out there who are awesome and nice. What I am saying is that the ARROGANT ones that I have experience with suck. So do the ones at my school. I know that there are nice rich people. Most of them probly are nice. But the ones I have met are mean and I do not like them as a person. I could generally care less about how much money you have. If you are a nice person, I will like you. But when you flaunt your money everywhere and get all cocky and arrogant because of money (like my ex and foster parents), ten that is when I start to get pretty ticked.
Again, I know that most of the rich are not like that and most earn their money fair and square. But the ones that are all mean and arrogant and so caught up with their money that they forget about their families or something are the ones I can not stand. Try to see what I mean. I am not sure if I made myself clear enough there. Explanations are not my strongest suit

[AyVannah]

Mo no person needs miliones, that is why i believe in the avantual redistribution of welth and a world witout money.

I disagree. The world needs it's classes and money. It's just how things work and it keeps order. Should their be as large of a gap as their is between classes? No. But there is no changing it, so the best thing to do is accept the facts.

[britishboy]

Mo no person needs miliones, that is why i believe in the avantual redistribution of welth and a world witout money.

with out consent taking peoples money is theft, and the classes are needed for progress

[tovaris]

with out consent taking peoples money is theft, and the classes are needed for progress

Why take the money when you can just take the walue? Class strugle only wastes energie and slows progres.

[britishboy]

Why take the money when you can just take the walue? Class strugle only wastes energie and slows progres.

no it doesn't! the rich have money and invest to get more money, the poor work hard as needed and the middle class may have more senior jobs or own small businesses, thats how we need it, everyone is needed

[AyVannah]

no it doesn't! the rich have money and invest to get more money, the poor work hard as needed and the middle class may have more senior jobs or own small businesses, thats how we need it, everyone is needed

I agree. THANK you!!

[tovaris]

no it doesn't! the rich have money and invest to get more money, the poor work hard as needed and the middle class may have more senior jobs or own small businesses, thats how we need it, everyone is needed

Ah what is the point i dont realy feen this is to mich on topic, so i might create one on class struggle. Deal? Lets now return to debating directly how usles the one per cent of worlds population that holds 80 per cent of its welth is useles.

[britishboy]

Ah what is the point i dont realy feen this is to mich on topic, so i might create one on class struggle. Deal? Lets now return to debating directly how usles the one per cent of worlds population that holds 80 per cent of its welth is useles.

have you herd of the google brothers? theyre one of the richest men on the planet, but theyre not lazy, theyre developing driverless cars (cars that drive themselves) , google glasses, android, great phones, dongles for TVs and online security!

[StoppingTime]

have you herd of the google brothers? theyre one of the richest men on the planet, but theyre not lazy, theyre developing driverless cars (cars that drive themselves) , google glasses, android, great phones, dongles for TVs and online security!

No, see, they hire people to do that ;)

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OT: This thread is a generalization (hark!!). Yes, there are rich people who simply inherit their family's money, win the lottery, whatever, and act like a stereotypical "rich" person; wear the designer clothes, act like snobs, whatever.

But before we go any further, I've noticed something that I do not believe anyone has specified (unless I skimmed over it which is entirely possible).

How do you define "rich?" Is someone rich if they're making six figures, but then spending a good amount of it to support charities, their own family, etc? Is the number on their salary what defines a "rich" person or is it how they act? I think most people in this thread simply call someone rich if they're wearing Gucci with their Mercedes S and driver. But really, is that fair? Is it fair to put that person on the same stereotypical level (since we're using stereotypes anyway, may as well make them fair ;)) as someone who works for their money (and it may be a lot) but uses it in a more 'responsible' way?



tl;dr: Don't be so quick to jump and call anyone who makes a certain amount of money 'rich' and therefore make assumptions about them - whether they make their own money or not.

[tovaris]

have you herd of the google brothers? theyre one of the richest men on the planet, but theyre not lazy, theyre developing driverless cars (cars that drive themselves) , google glasses, android, great phones, dongles for TVs and online security!

the guis who created google? They dont do much any more, i heard they hawe retreted to a quiet corner to try to mend the mental woonds the money inflicted them (discovery chanel +internet information junk pile)

[AyVannah]

the guis who created google? They dont do much any more, i heard they hawe retreted to a quiet corner to try to mend the mental woonds the money inflicted them (discovery chanel +internet information junk pile)

What mental *wounds?
And they still did/do a lot.

[Walter Powers]

Man. I thought I was done with pointless debates how communism will never work with radicals who can't spell. I guess not.

Why take the money when you can just take the walue? Class strugle only wastes energie and slows progres.

Actually "class struggle" is competition. Competition makes everybody work harder and increases progress. Have you ever been on a sports team? As well as competing with other teams, you probably also had a little internal competition to try to get varsity spots and stuff like that. I know that goes on in my cross country team. The same can be applied to life in general.

Ah what is the point i dont realy feen this is to mich on topic, so i might create one on class struggle. Deal? Lets now return to debating directly how usles the one per cent of worlds population that holds 80 per cent of its welth is useles.

That's not the topic.

the guis who created google? They dont do much any more, i heard they hawe retreted to a quiet corner to try to mend the mental woonds the money inflicted them (discovery chanel +internet information junk pile)

What?

I can recommend a fantastic free google product for you to use, and the google executives are paying to have it improved all the time. It's called google translate. You just type in something in your native language in the box, and you select what language you want to translate it to, and it translates it. If you use this method, will be able to understand you better. Here it is:

google.com/translate

Isn't it amazing? The wonders of free market innovation.::

[britishboy]

No, see, they hire people to do that ;)

____

OT: This thread is a generalization (hark!!). Yes, there are rich people who simply inherit their family's money, win the lottery, whatever, and act like a stereotypical "rich" person; wear the designer clothes, act like snobs, whatever.

But before we go any further, I've noticed something that I do not believe anyone has specified (unless I skimmed over it which is entirely possible).

How do you define "rich?" Is someone rich if they're making six figures, but then spending a good amount of it to support charities, their own family, etc? Is the number on their salary what defines a "rich" person or is it how they act? I think most people in this thread simply call someone rich if they're wearing Gucci with their Mercedes S and driver. But really, is that fair? Is it fair to put that person on the same stereotypical level (since we're using stereotypes anyway, may as well make them fair ;)) as someone who works for their money (and it may be a lot) but uses it in a more 'responsible' way?



tl;dr: Don't be so quick to jump and call anyone who makes a certain amount of money 'rich' and therefore make assumptions about them - whether they make their own money or not.

thats what I've always been saying! just because a man has alot of money in the bank, doesn't mean he act's a certain way

and no no one haa defined the term the rich and I agree with what your saying:)

the guis who created google? They dont do much any more, i heard they hawe retreted to a quiet corner to try to mend the mental woonds the money inflicted them (discovery chanel +internet information junk pile)

they still oversee it all, and who eles could fund such big projects? that's why rich men are needed

[Blackhawknut1]

I see what you mean, I come from money and my dad works his butt off but owns his own company. ßß

[AyVannah]

I don't mean they all act the same X.x I know that's not true and I don't mean to sound like I meant that, if I did. I'm just saying that it is the ones that don't have to do anything for their money that piss me off. Like SOME (probly only a handful or so) of the children of some people with a lot of money are rude. And THOSE are the people who tick me off. Arrogance in general ticks me off, so really it doesn't matter about money, to me but when one starts flaunting their money or whatever all cer, it annoys me. Do all of em do that? No. Have some done that? Yes. Do some still do that? Yes.
So, what I am against is not 'rich people' in general. No. it is against those who 'show off' their money or brag or are just plain RUDE about it. Like i said, not all of them are like that and most of em are fine.

[Yugen]

Not all rich people are like that. That's just being stereotypical and ignorant. My aunt who is very rich is the most down to earth person I've ever met.

[chrisf55]

You have a very stereotypical view of wealthy people. Most are very nice, and donate a percentage of their paycheck to charities. I don't know what kind of wealthy people you have met, if any at all, and you are just going on what you've heard.

[Hyper]

Interestingly some people here say that not all rich people are the same but bring out that some who simply inherit their money or win the lottery are often pompous jerks.

In my experience those who inherit money are often more careful in spending and using it than those who become rich on almost like a fluke i.e .com billionares, lottery winners etc.

But there are assholes everywhere regardless of monetary status. Though a rich asshole is just one type of asshole.

[LifeOfLove]

Rich people in general just come across as really arrogant to me. They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust, while they attend their high end private schools they cut funding to public ones and leave us in the dust. Just because you are rich does not make you more desearving of anything then anybody else. People are working their butts of and it's the CEOs and tycoons who are making most of the profits. That's not fair. What do you think?

First off, let me just say, I do not come from a family of money, however I live in a town where the average income is over $200,000 a year. I'm used to being around people who just throw around money like it's never a big deal while my family is struggling to figure out how to buy food for the week.

So, while it is true that some "rich" people are arrogant, but not all. When you say stuff about people working their butts off when only the CEO's and tycoons benefit, I ask the question how did they get there? Sure, some of them were handed the company by mommy and daddy, but many of them actually worked for it. My boyfriend's father started a company in 1996 and worked his ass off for it. Today that company employes over 600 people across all 50 states, as well as another 80 people between offices in London, Paris, and Sydney. So I ask you, would you risk everything you and your family have, take no salary for over a year. Work at least 100 hour weeks for that year, take no vacations, and even have to move back in with your parents just so that you could start your own business? Probably not, most people wouldn't. He did. Now, he works about 30 hours a week, and still makes way more money than I could imagine, and according to you he doesn't work for it. BS. He put in his time. He worked hard. He deserves what he is making.
Private schools and such are a given. The public school system has totally gotten to a point of failure, and one person is NOT going to make a difference, so if you could send your kids to the best school in town, would you not? As a parent you would just want the best for your kids, and if you could provide them with a better education you would! It isn't meant to leave those who can't afford it in the dust, it's just a matter of what is best for their kids. That funding doesn't make a very big difference when the government is cutting billions in education every year anyway...
Honestly, if you had that much money, you wouldn't want to give it all away either. We can all say that we would, and on paper and in our heads it is a great plan. But that means nothing until you actually hold the money in your hand. At that point it is much easier to keep what you have worked hard for than it is to give it away, unless you have the right mindset about it. You wouldn't want to pay a ton of money in taxes, so why would they?
As far as you working your butt off for a "rich person" Good. You should. They are the one doing YOU a favor. They are offering you a percentage of THEIR money to do some work for them. So yeah, maybe they are sitting around not doing much while you work your butt off. Have a problem with it? Quit. Start your own business. They can find somebody else who would gladly work for them. Like I said, they are doing YOU a favor by giving YOU THEIR money.

Let me also add this.
If there wasn't rich people, where does money for charity programs come from? My boyfriend's family runs a foundation that between them and a few others pumps over $2.5 million a year back into PUBLIC schools in a nearby town that is economically depressed. Rich people are terrible right?

[britishboy]

I think being higher class can actually be a bad thing, for example were stereotyped and most people are jealous

[Tree96]

I don't hate rich people or poor people. I strongly believe that if you work hard enough you can become just as financially secure and stable as others. That being said, some people are just dealt better cards. Being born into the right family in the right country at the right time is like winning the opportunity lottery. It doesn't automatically make you rich or successful but it does get you part of the way there.

I don't feel like rich people should be punished for having money though. If they earned it legally it's theirs. Why should they have to pay a higher tax % just because they have money? I agree it's wrong that there are so many tax cuts for the rich. Honestly, there should just be a flat tax. It's the most fair. Too many people think that the government or rich people owe them something. No one owes anyone anything. We all need to just focus on ourselves. There will always be those rich people that think they are better than the "working class" just like there will always be those poor people that think they are entitled to a ton of benefits just because they are poor.

At the end of the day we are all responsible for our own lives.

[Zach4110]

They outright oppose any tax hikes to help the poor, I mean do millionaires really need that much money? They seem to support leaving people less fortunate then them in the dust
I oppose tax hikes for the rich. I must be a rich, greedy bastard, except I'm not. So why do I?

In economics, there is a something known as redistribution of wealth, which distorts the economy and lowers the productivity of a society.