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Walter Powers
July 23rd, 2013, 06:28 PM
This is an excellent segment on the matter by Bill O'Reily.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2560422134001/president-obama-and-the-race-problem-/

He explains the real reasons for the racial deparities in the world and what we should be doing to combat them. What do you think?

comical
July 23rd, 2013, 10:22 PM
I'd like to quote a tweet on this..
Bill O'Reily is one the reason why white people get generalized as a racist ethnic group... Smh

lol.

"Blacks commit homicide at a rate of 10 times that of whites & Hispanics combined."

Dude, please. This is not true at all.

Also, he just seemed to say that Black girls need to stop having kids at young ages. And his hate for hoodies?

Lord, Bill O'Reilly needs Yeezus. Why is he still on television?

Walter Powers
July 23rd, 2013, 10:58 PM
I'd like to quote a tweet on this..


lol.



Dude, please. This is not true at all.

Also, he just seemed to say that Black girls need to stop having kids at young ages. And his hate for hoodies?

Lord, Bill O'Reilly needs Yeezus. Why is he still on television?

Bill O Reily's not raciest, if that's what your trying to say. The raciests are the limousine liberals and moderate Republicans who want to ignore the problems of the inner city.

Dude, please. This is not true at all.

You have conflicting stats? Because I wasn't sure about that 10 times figure either, so I went to the FBI's website for crime data. According to them, whites committed 32.5% of murders in 2011, and blacks committed 37.7% of them:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-3

Considering that, according to the CIA (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html) whites comprise about 80% of the country, and blacks only comprise 13%, yet they commit a higher percentage of total murders then whites, it seems reasonable to say they commit murder at about 10 times the rate of whites. Again, did you have conflicting data or something? Because my information here is from the CIA and the FBI, probably as reliable as it gets.

People like you are the reason why we can't fix these problems. Can't we talk about this without calling each other raciest?

Also, he just seemed to say that Black girls need to stop having kids at young ages. And his hate for hoodies?

What, you think it's okay for black girls or anyone for that matter to be teen mothers?

Lord, Bill O'Reilly needs Yeezus. Why is he still on television

Obviously his millions of viewers don't agree with you...the O'Reilly factor is the number one show on cable for like 8 years running!

TheBigUnit
July 24th, 2013, 01:20 AM
Actually pretty interesting I kinda agree with o reilly but disagreed with other points, the problem he stated is actually correct if you really think about it but he also did downplay the roles of guns and poverty to the mix

Camazotz
July 24th, 2013, 02:52 PM
The segment started out okay, looking at the issues objectively with some bias in there, which wasn't too glaring. Halfway through, however, O'Reilly begins using statistics to make assumptions and begins connecting variables that aren't relevant. The shift from fact to opinion is so clear, you can just read the note cards on the right, and as the video progresses, you can feel yourself start scratching your head. His use of ad hominem (limousine liberals) and other fallacies make his argument weak. His "solution" is to eliminate the hip-hop culture, which is totally bogus and unnecessary, and he barely even mentions the economic differences between "race," which is the main issue.

Meh, not like I expected anything better from Bill O'Reilly.

I dont know why people quickly connect race with crime. Yes it's true, in some countries some ethnicities/races have a higher statistic when it comes to crime, and law breaking. But to say, "oh well there's a higher chance he'll do something because he's X race" is stupid. It's a generalization that makes little sense, you'd think we'd be past that by now.

I agree with this!

Walter Powers
July 24th, 2013, 03:31 PM
The segment started out okay, looking at the issues objectively with some bias in there, which wasn't too glaring. Halfway through, however, O'Reilly begins using statistics to make assumptions and begins connecting variables that aren't relevant. The shift from fact to opinion is so clear, you can just read the note cards on the right, and as the video progresses, you can feel yourself start scratching your head. His use of ad hominem (limousine liberals) and other fallacies make his argument weak. His "solution" is to eliminate the hip-hop culture, which is totally bogus and unnecessary, and he barely even mentions the economic differences between "race," which is the main issue.

Meh, not like I expected anything better from Bill O'Reilly.



I agree with this!

Dude, every pundit uses figures of speech like that. Just watch MSNBC for three seconds.

What assumptions did he make?

You can't deny that the culture put out by Hollywood and the music industry is a very bad influence. Like O'Reily said, you get these kids listening to the songs full of swear words and with lyrics about cheating and doing other shameful things, and it can do some significant negative things to a person. It does not help them succeed one bit.

He talks about the economic differences, and he explains that they are an affect of these problems, not the cause. The reason poverty keeps recurring generation after generation is, quite frankly, the culture of addiction, underage sex, and dropping out that plagues the black community. It's not because their great great great great grandparents were slaves.

Camazotz
July 24th, 2013, 05:29 PM
Dude, every pundit uses figures of speech like that. Just watch MSNBC for three seconds.

I agree. It's a shame that when I look for news, there has to be a bias that goes along with it: so I ignore the parts the are, seek out what parts are opinionated, take note of the points they're making, and think about why it's bad reporting and why they're right/wrong.

...you get these kids listening to the songs full of swear words and with lyrics about cheating and doing other shameful things

Oh god, it's the END OF THE WORLD! Swear words?! Cheating?! Shameful things?! Next you're gonna tell me that videogames are getting more violent and the porn industry is taking over our good Christian values and blacks want to marry whites. Disgrace!

He talks about the economic differences, and he explains that they are an affect of these problems, not the cause. The reason poverty keeps recurring generation after generation is, quite frankly, the culture of addiction, underage sex, and dropping out that plagues the black community.

1. Put in a similar economic situation, whites/Hispanics/Asians/etc. would all suffer from a drugs, gangs, and failing education systems. The fact of the matter is, the "black community" that you're talking about has nothing to do with race; it's their economic disadvantages that are very difficult to overcome.

2. There's nothing culturally wrong from underage sex; that idea is a result of the Christian movements throughout the twentieth century; prior to Prohibition and all that jazz (pun intended), people were having children in their teens, and you know what, they turned out fine.

3. The "black community" isn't just inner-city kids that belong to gangs and are subject to gun violence; blacks can be successful, rich, and have professions in any field. Again, it's not race that's the problem. We've proven blacks can do anything that whites can; it's just the ones stuck in the inner-city with financial problems.

It's not because their great great great great grandparents were slaves.

Finally, something I can agree with.

Southside
July 24th, 2013, 06:06 PM
Dude, every pundit uses figures of speech like that. Just watch MSNBC for three seconds.

What assumptions did he make?

You can't deny that the culture put out by Hollywood and the music industry is a very bad influence. Like O'Reily said, you get these kids listening to the songs full of swear words and with lyrics about cheating and doing other shameful things, and it can do some significant negative things to a person. It does not help them succeed one bit.

He talks about the economic differences, and he explains that they are an affect of these problems, not the cause. The reason poverty keeps recurring generation after generation is, quite frankly, the culture of addiction, underage sex, and dropping out that plagues the black community. It's not because their great great great great grandparents were slaves.

So just because I listen to rap music with swearing I am already cut out to do negative things and not succeed in life? Please clarify.


Blaming anything but the actual problems, people will point to Hip Hop culture, underage sex, songs with "cuss words". Rappers(Atleast the ones I listen to) are inner city poets that truly rap about the struggle going on, not every rapper is like Lil Wayne or 2 Chainz. Poverty keeps recurring because of the lack of quality education and jobs in Inner city neighborhoods. This ties into the Welfare debate too, you take away welfare and what else do these people have, NOTHING.

They lie by say this is a equal country, not really, I can go on and on about the disadvantages we inner city Blacks & Hispanics have to deal with. You can say "Dont throw money at the problem", but I see it as investing.

marrisa
July 24th, 2013, 07:57 PM
OMG I watched that.Basically he was saying the basis for all poverty is children born out of wedlock.White or black.But 72% of black children are born into single parent households.That really opened my eyes.

comical
July 25th, 2013, 01:09 PM
You have conflicting stats? Because I wasn't sure about that 10 times figure either, so I went to the FBI's website for crime data. According to them, whites committed 32.5% of murders in 2011, and blacks committed 37.7% of them:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr...e-data-table-3

Considering that, according to the CIA (https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/us.html) whites comprise about 80% of the country, and blacks only comprise 13%, yet they commit a higher percentage of total murders then whites, it seems reasonable to say they commit murder at about 10 times the rate of whites. Again, did you have conflicting data or something? Because my information here is from the CIA and the FBI, probably as reliable as it gets.

People like you are the reason why we can't fix these problems. Can't we talk about this without calling each other raciest?

In what world is that 10 times?

He talks about the economic differences, and he explains that they are an affect of these problems, not the cause. The reason poverty keeps recurring generation after generation is, quite frankly, the culture of addiction, underage sex, and dropping out that plagues the black community.

Camazots response summed up what I was going to say. Why do people keep associating drugs with the black community when Whites consume drugs more than anybody?

You can't deny that the culture put out by Hollywood and the music industry is a very bad influence. Like O'Reily said, you get these kids listening to the songs full of swear words and with lyrics about cheating and doing other shameful things, and it can do some significant negative things to a person. It does not help them succeed one bit.

I wish people would understand there is a difference between Rap & Hip-Hop.

I also find it funny how people who've never spent a day in the Black community somehow know all of the solutions to the problems within the Black community.

Walter Powers
July 25th, 2013, 03:57 PM
I agree. It's a shame that when I look for news, there has to be a bias that goes along with it: so I ignore the parts the are, seek out what parts are opinionated, take note of the points they're making, and think about why it's bad reporting and why they're right/wrong.



Oh god, it's the END OF THE WORLD! Swear words?! Cheating?! Shameful things?! Next you're gonna tell me that videogames are getting more violent and the porn industry is taking over our good Christian values and blacks want to marry whites. Disgrace!



1. Put in a similar economic situation, whites/Hispanics/Asians/etc. would all suffer from a drugs, gangs, and failing education systems. The fact of the matter is, the "black community" that you're talking about has nothing to do with race; it's their economic disadvantages that are very difficult to overcome.

2. There's nothing culturally wrong from underage sex; that idea is a result of the Christian movements throughout the twentieth century; prior to Prohibition and all that jazz (pun intended), people were having children in their teens, and you know what, they turned out fine.

3. The "black community" isn't just inner-city kids that belong to gangs and are subject to gun violence; blacks can be successful, rich, and have professions in any field. Again, it's not race that's the problem. We've proven blacks can do anything that whites can; it's just the ones stuck in the inner-city with financial problems.



Finally, something I can agree with.

Let's start with this:

Oh god, it's the END OF THE WORLD! Swear words?! Cheating?! Shameful things?! Next you're gonna tell me that videogames are getting more violent and the porn industry is taking over our good Christian values and blacks want to marry whites. Disgrace!

I just find it silly when the Hollywood liberals who star in action films say they want an end to "gun culture"...talk about hypocritical.

What does religion have to do with it? Bottom line is these celebrities, who should be role models, are generally the worst of the worst in showing people how to lead a good life! And this demographic, who has a lot less parental involvement then most, is going to be looking at them and following their lead, as they are some of the only role models in their lives. Kids get the impression it's okay to swear in every sentence you say. Regardless of what anybody thinks about swearing, you won't get and retain a job if your employer sees you swearing all the time. My mother used to manage a fast food restaurant; she says she would fire somebody if they repeatedly used profanity. My uncle, who is president of an electrical contracting firm, would do the same thing. They may be be personally against it, but the bottom line is it'll hurt business if a customer sees them doing that.

Also these celebrities and rappers oftentimes addict themselves to drugs. You cannot deny that that's a terrible influence, and it can ruin lots and lots of lives. Nobody's going to hire a stoner. This hurts them economically.

Finally, cheating can cause a divorce and likely a child being raised by one parent. That is certainly not a good thing, either.

1. Put in a similar economic situation, whites/Hispanics/Asians/etc. would all suffer from a drugs, gangs, and failing education systems. The fact of the matter is, the "black community" that you're talking about has nothing to do with race; it's their economic disadvantages that are very difficult to overcome

True, but this is how the cards ended up falling and we need to address that reality. This is the segment of the population that's worst off; the first step toward helping them is identifying that they need help.

2. There's nothing culturally wrong from underage sex; that idea is a result of the Christian movements throughout the twentieth century; prior to Prohibition and all that jazz (pun intended), people were having children in their teens, and you know what, they turned out fine.

WOW. Of course there is something very wrong about underage sex both culturally and pratically. First, how would people in general react if they'd found out you, as a minor, had sex? If you think that it'd be a negative reaction, then yes, there is something culturally wrong with underage sex.

Practically, underage sex can have dire consequences. Have you ever had sex Ed? Your parents haven't told you about this? Well, the girl CAN GET PREGNANT. That would be very bad situation for the baby and the parents, especially the underage mother. Do you deny that teen pregnancy is a bad thing? Not to mention the fact that the likeliness that underage sexual partners have been tested for STDs is almost zero. SEX UNDER 16 IS ILLEGAL FOR A REASON.

3. The "black community" isn't just inner-city kids that belong to gangs and are subject to gun violence; blacks can be successful, rich, and have professions in any field. Again, it's not race that's the problem. We've proven blacks can do anything that whites can; it's just the ones stuck in the inner-city with financial problems.

Of course anyone of any race can be successful. And our goal should be to end to inner city culture of failure so that there's less of a racial disparity in success and as many people as possible can reach their potential.

So just because I listen to rap music with swearing I am already cut out to do negative things and not succeed in life? Please clarify.


Blaming anything but the actual problems, people will point to Hip Hop culture, underage sex, songs with "cuss words". Rappers(Atleast the ones I listen to) are inner city poets that truly rap about the struggle going on, not every rapper is like Lil Wayne or 2 Chainz. Poverty keeps recurring because of the lack of quality education and jobs in Inner city neighborhoods. This ties into the Welfare debate too, you take away welfare and what else do these people have, NOTHING.

They lie by say this is a equal country, not really, I can go on and on about the disadvantages we inner city Blacks & Hispanics have to deal with. You can say "Dont throw money at the problem", but I see it as investing.

So just because I listen to rap music with swearing I am already cut out to do negative things and not succeed in life? Please clarify.

No, of course not, but it can have an impact. See what I said above.

Poverty keeps recurring because of the lack of quality education and jobs in Inner city neighborhoods. This ties into the Welfare debate too, you take away welfare and what else do these people have, NOTHING

Exactly, many of them are addicted to welfare, on top of the drugs. And do you do when someone addicted to something? You slowly begin to take it away.

The schools suck because of lack of parental involvement and drugs and all the other issues. Solve those problems and test scores will go higher.

I just don't understand why people stay in the inner city though. I mean, if it's dangerous, you can't find work, and the schools suck for your kids, why in the world would you live there?

They lie by say this is a equal country, not really, I can go on and on about the disadvantages we inner city Blacks & Hispanics have to deal with. You can say "Dont throw money at the problem", but I see it as investing.

A black kid who has a single parent who lives off welfare and is addicted to drugs is just as bad off as a white kid person who has a single parent who lives off welfare and is an addict. Like I said, this is just how the cards fell.

Where would you suggest we "invest" money in? And who's money?

In what world is that 10 times?



Camazots response summed up what I was going to say. Why do people keep associating drugs with the black community when Whites consume drugs more than anybody?



I wish people would understand there is a difference between Rap & Hip-Hop.

I also find it funny how people who've never spent a day in the Black community somehow know all of the solutions to the problems within the Black community.

In what world is that 10 times?

I don't think your understanding what the data means. Let me break it down.

Whites commit 32.7% of all total murders. Blacks commit 37.7% of all total murders. Blacks make up 13% of the population; whites make up 80%

There are over 6 times as many whites then blacks in this country, and yet blacks commit significantly more of the TOTAL murders then Whites.

Understand? This makes the 10 times figure seem very reasonable if you were to further filter the demographic to young black men specifically, which is what O'Reily did.

Why do people keep associating drugs with the black community when Whites consume drugs more than anybody?

Do you have data to back that up?

I also find it funny how people who've never spent a day in the Black community somehow know all of the solutions to the problems within the Black community

Do you have any ideas? Because obviously whatever we're doing now isn't working.

Southside
July 25th, 2013, 06:27 PM
Let's start with this:



I just find it silly when the Hollywood liberals who star in action films say they want an end to "gun culture"...talk about hypocritical.

What does religion have to do with it? Bottom line is these celebrities, who should be role models, are generally the worst of the worst in showing people how to lead a good life! And this demographic, who has a lot less parental involvement then most, is going to be looking at them and following their lead, as they are some of the only role models in their lives. Kids get the impression it's okay to swear in every sentence you say. Regardless of what anybody thinks about swearing, you won't get and retain a job if your employer sees you swearing all the time. My mother used to manage a fast food restaurant; she says she would fire somebody if they repeatedly used profanity. My uncle, who is president of an electrical contracting firm, would do the same thing. They may have obviously be personally against it, but bottom like is it'll hurt business if a customer sees them doing that.

Also these celebrities and rappers oftentimes addict themselves to drugs. You cannot deny that that's a terrible influence, and it can ruin lots and lots of lives. Nobody's going to hire a stoner. This hurts them economically.

Finally, cheating can cause a divorce and likely a child being raised by one parent. That is certainly not a good thing, either.



True, but this is how the cards ended up falling and we need to address that reality. This is the segment of the population that's worst off; the first step toward helping them is identifying that they need help.



WOW. Of course there is something very wrong about underage sex both culturally and pratically. First, how would people in general react if they'd found out you, as a minor, had sex? If you think that it'd be a negative reaction, then yes, there is something culturally wrong with underage sex.

Practically, underage sex can have dire consequences. Have you ever had sex Ed? Your parents haven't told you about this? Well, the girl CAN GET PREGNANT. That would be very bad situation for the baby and the parents, especially the underage mother. Do you deny that teen pregnancy is a bad thing? Not to mention the fact that the likeliness that underage sexual partners have been tested for STDs is almost zero. SEX UNDER 16 IS ILLEGAL FOR A REASON.



Of course anyone of any race can be successful. And our goal should be to end to inner city culture of failure so that there's less of a racial disparity in success and as many people as possible can reach their potential.





No, of course not, but it can have an impact. See what I said above.



Exactly, many of them are addicted to welfare, on top of the drugs. And do you do when someone addicted to something? You slowly begin to take it away.

The schools suck because of lack of parental involvement and drugs and all the other issues. Solve those problems and test scores will go higher.

I just don't understand why people stay in the inner city though. I mean, if it's dangerous, you can't find work, and the schools suck for your kids, why in the world would you live there?



A black kid who has a single parent who lives off welfare and is addicted to drugs is just as bad off as a white kid person who has a single parent who lives off welfare and is an addict. Like I said, this is just how the cards fell.

Where would you suggest we "invest" money in? And who's money?





I don't think your understanding what the data means. Let me break it down.

Whites commit 32.7% of all total murders. Blacks commit 37.7% of all total murders. Blacks make up 13% of the population; whites make up 80%

There are over 6 times as many whites then blacks in this country, and yet blacks commit significantly more of the TOTAL murders then Whites.

Understand? This makes the 10 times figure seem very reasonable if you had slightly different data.



Do you have data to back that up?



Do you have any ideas? Because obviously whatever we're doing now isn't working.

You make it seem like these inner city people can just simple get up and move, 9 times out of 10 they live their because they dont have enough money to move.

Who's money? Our tax money, what if we could take the money that we give to the murderous state of Israel,Egypt, and Pakistan and invested it into areas that need it most? What if 30 billion dollars went to building new schools, putting resources such as new computers and other technology into these schools?

How do you feel that our tax dollars are going to bombing civilian infrastructure such as soccer stadiums and airports in the Gaza Strip? All I want is America to stop the bullshit, "World Police" policies that have costed thousands of American lives and caused 9/11. I hope you arent one of those Republicans who believe we were attacked due to our "freedom" and "liberty", biggest lie in American history....


Invest money in job programs, school infrastructure, more youth programs, recreational programs. Schools here suck due to 10 year old textbooks,schools suck here due to massive class sizes, schools here suck due to low quality educators, schools suck here due to old, dilapidated school buildings. It's not the parents, its lack of investment into inner city school.



I'll quote Tupac Shakur on the matter of drugs and race, "Both Black and White are smoking crack tonight"... You asked for data on what Comical said, 68% of Adult Cannabis marijauna users are White. Take a look at these government statistics on drugs and demographics.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/gov-t-stats-reveal-demographics-of-adult-marijuana-users#

Camazotz
July 26th, 2013, 10:18 AM
I just find it silly when the Hollywood liberals who star in action films say they want an end to "gun culture"...talk about hypocritical.

That's their job, conservative actors star in films that go against their political agenda. The movies don't have to reflect the beliefs of every actor, director, producer involved.

What does religion have to do with it? Bottom line is these celebrities, who should be role models, are generally the worst of the worst in showing people how to lead a good life! And this demographic, who has a lot less parental involvement then most, is going to be looking at them and following their lead, as they are some of the only role models in their lives. Kids get the impression it's okay to swear in every sentence you say. Regardless of what anybody thinks about swearing, you won't get and retain a job if your employer sees you swearing all the time. My mother used to manage a fast food restaurant; she says she would fire somebody if they repeatedly used profanity. My uncle, who is president of an electrical contracting firm, would do the same thing. They may be be personally against it, but the bottom line is it'll hurt business if a customer sees them doing that.

1. Actors should not be role models.
2. You're making an assumption; parents have been becoming less and less involved over the past few decades, in upper-class families, middle-class families, and lower-class families.
3. Swearing is one of the last reasons "the black community" is failing. Depending on where you get a job, swearing may or may not matter. If you work blue collar jobs, it doesn't matter if you swear, as long as you're not talking to customers. We have a need for blue collar workers, and it's easier for people in failing education systems to get these jobs, so it's hardly a big deal.

Also these celebrities and rappers oftentimes addict themselves to drugs. You cannot deny that that's a terrible influence, and it can ruin lots and lots of lives. Nobody's going to hire a stoner. This hurts them economically.

Finally, cheating can cause a divorce and likely a child being raised by one parent. That is certainly not a good thing, either.

I agree, drugs are bad, and celebrities that use them aren't role models. I don't think many celebrities are role models anyway. Cheating is not good either.

True, but this is how the cards ended up falling and we need to address that reality. This is the segment of the population that's worst off; the first step toward helping them is identifying that they need help.

This is not because they're black; it's because they're poor, and it's hard to become un-poor.

WOW. Of course there is something very wrong about underage sex both culturally and pratically. First, how would people in general react if they'd found out you, as a minor, had sex? If you think that it'd be a negative reaction, then yes, there is something culturally wrong with underage sex.

Practically, underage sex can have dire consequences. Have you ever had sex Ed? Your parents haven't told you about this? Well, the girl CAN GET PREGNANT. That would be very bad situation for the baby and the parents, especially the underage mother. Do you deny that teen pregnancy is a bad thing? Not to mention the fact that the likeliness that underage sexual partners have been tested for STDs is almost zero. SEX UNDER 16 IS ILLEGAL FOR A REASON.

1. They wouldn't care, because it's none of their business and it's not a big deal. It's 2013, not 1950.
2. Most school systems have some sort of sex ed. by fifth/sixth grade (10 or 11 years old), and go further into discussion when they reach middle school/high school. Kids know about condoms, birth control methods, and the likes; most are just too stupid/scared to follow through with what they've learned.
3. I do; but sex =/= pregnancy every time.
4. Oh yeah, and that gets enforced all the time.

Of course anyone of any race can be successful. And our goal should be to end to inner city culture of failure so that there's less of a racial disparity in success and as many people as possible can reach their potential.

It's not the culture that's the problem, it's the economic disadvantages.

Exactly, many of them are addicted to welfare, on top of the drugs. And do you do when someone addicted to something? You slowly begin to take it away.

The schools suck because of lack of parental involvement and drugs and all the other issues. Solve those problems and test scores will go higher.

I just don't understand why people stay in the inner city though. I mean, if it's dangerous, you can't find work, and the schools suck for your kids, why in the world would you live there?

The biggest issue is not parental involvement; it's the lack of money for the families who can't afford to get out. You act like people enjoy living there; news flash, they don't. They don't have enough money to buy a place outside the city, they can't uproot their family for financial reasons (the parents can't find a job anywhere else because they're already making minimum wage at two jobs). You're classifying every black person as a drug addict that only gets money from welfare; that's just a negative stereotype.

Where would you suggest we "invest" money in? And who's money?

I don't know enough about economics and how it works. But I'm not going to blame it on "the black community" and make them fix their own problems without help, because the past has shown us that it only leads to more failure.

I don't think your understanding what the data means. Let me break it down.

Whites commit 32.7% of all total murders. Blacks commit 37.7% of all total murders. Blacks make up 13% of the population; whites make up 80%

There are over 6 times as many whites then blacks in this country, and yet blacks commit significantly more of the TOTAL murders then Whites.

Understand? This makes the 10 times figure seem very reasonable if you had slightly different data.

The socioeconomic status of blacks are also significantly lower than whites, especially in the inner-cities, where gangs are predominant and blacks outnumber whites. Again, race is just a lurking variable; the reason behind the high crime rate is socioeconomic disadvantages.

I'm not going to pretend I have the solutions to these problems; I have absolutely zero experience in living in the inner-city and I'm not a professional economist. I haven't researched past attempts and how they worked out, and neither have political identities like Bill O'Reilly; they just say what they're told, or what they believe would be the best solution without much actual knowledge. But there are people who have the knowledge and ability to make it better, but political agendas and bias stand in their way.