Alcohol laws

[Jasperf]

What do you think on the alcohol laws, since most of the users are from USA, do you think 21 is to old?

Here in New Zealand there is no minimum drinking age

[LouBerry]

Personally, I think the stuff is horrid, and should be illegal. But, if we didn't have drinking laws, then it probably wouldn't be as abused as it is.

[Jasperf]

Personally, I think the stuff is horrid, and should be illegal. But, if we didn't have drinking laws, then it probably wouldn't be as abused as it is.

Did you know that America has no alcohol consumption age :o

[LouBerry]

What?

[Jasperf]

What?

There isn't one :o

[LouBerry]

There isn't one :o

In America? We have to be 21.

[Jess]

21 is not too old. I think it's a good age. I agree with Lou; I think alcohol is disgusting (I've smelled it), and will never drink any

Did you know that America has no alcohol consumption age :o

Where did you hear that? There is one.

[Sugaree]

Did you know that America has no alcohol consumption age :o

Uh, yes, we do. The age for a person to be LEGALLY allowed to drink is 21. Where did you hear that bullshit?

[Jasperf]

In America? We have to be 21.

Uh, yes, we do. The age for a person to be LEGALLY allowed to drink is 21. Where did you hear that bullshit?

21 is not too old. I think it's a good age. I agree with Lou; I think alcohol is disgusting (I've smelled it), and will never drink any



Where did you hear that? There is one.


Well I looked up on multiple websites that all quote the federal laws, and they say this

The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 (23 U.S.C. § 158) was passed on July 17, 1984 by the United States Congress as a mechanism whereby all states would become thereafter required to legislate the age of 21 years as a minimum age for purchasing and publicly possessing alcoholic beverages. Under the Federal Aid Highway Act


No where does it say it's illegal to drink alcohol under 21. Just illegal to purchase or have it in public.

[LouBerry]

It's also illegal to provide a minor with alcohol. So, I mean, yeah, if you find some on the street, you're fine.

[Jasperf]

It's also illegal to provide a minor with alcohol. So, I mean, yeah, if you find some on the street, you're fine.

Though it isn't illegal to provide your child with alcohol.

[LouBerry]

It is if your child is a minor.

[josh_9]

I'd hope when I can legally drink, I don't go overboard with it, but it seems like most do. In most countries that are similar to America (for example Canada), the age is 18. But in places like Europe, it's only 16. I plan to travel to France next spring where the drinking age is 16 and drink a few glasses of wine. But yes, I do think there should be some sort of law(s) in place to avoid early addictions.

[Jasperf]

It is if your child is a minor.

Nope

[LouBerry]

Yep. Unless that's just an Arkansas law, but I'm pretty dang sure, seeing as I live here and I'm a minor.

[Jasperf]

Yep. Unless that's just an Arkansas law, but I'm pretty dang sure, seeing as I live here and I'm a minor.

Na the federal law says it's legal for parents to purchase under 21's alcohol, unless state law aposes. And there are only a few states that apose

[LouBerry]

Like I said, here it's illegal.

[Jasperf]

Like I said, here it's illegal.

Must be the state (:

Yep. Unless that's just an Arkansas law, but I'm pretty dang sure, seeing as I live here and I'm a minor.

Hey (: just looked it up for you,
These are the states that have consumption banned underage, excluding some circumstances including religious reasons ect.
Alabama, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Vermont.

[Jevon]

In Texas you are aloud to share an alcoholic beverage with a parent at restraunts

[Jasperf]

In Texas you are aloud to share an alcoholic beverage with a parent at restraunts

That's against federal law??

[Jevon]

No it's aloud

[Jasperf]

No it's aloud

But no state law can overthrow a federal law. And the federal law says that under 21 cannot be in possession of alcohol in public, and restraunts are a public area...

[Jevon]

Technically the minor isn't in possession of it the parent is and the parent can allow their kid to drink some

[Jasperf]

Technically the minor isn't in possession of it the parent is and the parent can allow their kid to drink some

If you wanna be technical... The minor is in possesion, the alcohol is in the stomach...

Also while the child Is drinking it.

[Nomad_X]

In most countries that are similar to America (for example Canada), the age is 18.

Actually, In Canada each province set's it's own drinking age laws, which is 19 years of age in all provinces except Alberta, Manitoba and Quebec which are 18 years of age to purchase & consume alcohol.

[Jevon]

Well it just legal I don't fucking know how but it is

[Jasperf]

Well it just legal I don't fucking know how but it is

I dunno how either >.<

[Nomad_X]

I'd hope when I can legally drink, I don't go overboard with it, but it seems like most do. In most countries that are similar to America (for example Canada), the age is 18. But in places like Europe, it's only 16. I plan to travel to France next spring where the drinking age is 16 and drink a few glasses of wine. But yes, I do think there should be some sort of law(s) in place to avoid early addictions.


Actually, Um, Europe is not one country, but many. The drinking age in France is 18. Not 16. Actually in most European countries the drinking age is 18.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age

The above web page pretty much sums up the global drinking ages.

[Jasperf]

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I'd hope when I can legally drink, I don't go overboard with it, but it seems like most do. In most countries that are similar to America (for example Canada), the age is 18. But in places like Europe, it's only 16. I plan to travel to France next spring where the drinking age is 16 and drink a few glasses of wine. But yes, I do think there should be some sort of law(s) in place to avoid early addictions.

You can drink legally...
And perhaps you should learn about things before you say them...
Vvvvvv


QUOTE=Valcor_X;2394025]Actually, Um, Europe is not one country, but many. The drinking age in France is 18. Not 16. Actually in most European countries the drinking age is 18.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_drinking_age

The above web page pretty much sums up the global drinking ages.[/QUOTE]
My point exactly...

[germangirl]

In Germany it's different: we're allowed to consume alcohol as a minor, but it's illegal to sell alcohol to minors. it's legal when your parent buy you alcohol, even in public places. at the age of 16 we can buy/consum beer and wine only - for spirits the legal drinking age is 18 like in many other countries.
in my opinion this laws make sense. i think beer and wine are not as dangerous as spirits are, so it's better to drink beer at young ages (by the way: it's no prejudice that every german drinks beer - it's true).

[Stronk Serb]

In Germany it's different: we're allowed to consume alcohol as a minor, but it's illegal to sell alcohol to minors. it's legal when your parent buy you alcohol, even in public places. at the age of 16 we can buy/consum beer and wine only - for spirits the legal drinking age is 18 like in many other countries.
in my opinion this laws make sense. i think beer and wine are not as dangerous as spirits are, so it's better to drink beer at young ages (by the way: it's no prejudice that every german drinks beer - it's true).

Some people tend to abuse it by giving beer to babies. I can understand you give a glass of wine or a bottle of beer to your teenage child for some special celebration, but if the child is excessively consuming it, the alcohol can kill child growth, brain included, leaving them with smaller mental and physical capabilities.

[josh_9]

Actually, In Canada each province set's it's own drinking age laws, which is 19 years of age in all provinces except Alberta, Manitoba and Quebec which are 18 years of age to purchase & consume alcohol.

Alright, I am terribly sorry for my lack of research...it's a post on VT, not a research report...just trying to answer the person's questions. I am aware that Europe is a continent..and if you do ALL your research, many European countries just recently changed their drinking ages from 16 to 18...also Wikipedia is not a reliable source to prove someone wrong with. SO sorry for my lack of research

[josh_9]

Actually, In Canada each province set's it's own drinking age laws, which is 19 years of age in all provinces except Alberta, Manitoba and Quebec which are 18 years of age to purchase & consume alcohol.

AND I used to live in Quebec for summers, so I was using that as an example.

[Jasperf]

Alright, I am terribly sorry for my lack of research...it's a post on VT, not a research report...Wikipedia is not a reliable source to prove someone wrong with. SO sorry for my lack of research

Well actually in the ROTW thread it's a debating section, where people bring facts and research. Wiki is a viable means of reasearch if you use it properly.

[tovaris]

What do you think on the alcohol laws, since most of the users are from USA, do you think 21 is to old?

Here in New Zealand there is no minimum drinking age

I think 18 is perfectly exeptable. 21 is a bit old.

Did you say no minimum drinking age?

[Jasperf]

I think 18 is perfectly exeptable. 21 is a bit old.

Did you say no minimum drinking age?

Yup (: there is not federal law stoping under 21s drinking

[tovaris]

Yup (: there is not federal law stoping under 21s drinking

you mean under 18.
Interesting i dont realy get it thow... A youngster could just wald into a stor and buy a litre of vodka? Dont get it but hey...

[Jasperf]

you mean under 18.
Interesting i dont realy get it thow... A youngster could just wald into a stor and buy a litre of vodka? Dont get it but hey...

No, it's illegal to purchase, and to posses in public. But not illegal to consume.

[tovaris]

No, it's illegal to purchase, and to posses in public. But not illegal to consume.

Whel afcors it isnt elegal to consume. You cant realy make a law to make peopoe consume or not consume something.
Here its elegal to sell alcohol to someone under 18 but if the obtain it there is no oaw stopping them from drinking it.

[Jasperf]

Whel afcors it isnt elegal to consume. You cant realy make a law to make peopoe consume or not consume something.
Here its elegal to sell alcohol to someone under 18 but if the obtain it there is no oaw stopping them from drinking it.

Well yes you can make a law saying noone can consume something, if someone has meth in there system it's illegal... Because they consumed it.
Yeah that's the same. There is only law against purchase not to consume

[tovaris]

Well yes you can make a law saying noone can consume something, if someone has meth in there system it's illegal... Because they consumed it.
Yeah that's the same. There is only law against purchase not to consume

Its not elegal to gave drugs in your sistem, it is eoegal to poses tgem over a certan mas but mot to consum them. At oest here.... Dont know about NZ

[Jasperf]

Its not elegal to gave drugs in your sistem, it is eoegal to poses tgem over a certan mas but mot to consum them. At oest here.... Dont know about NZ

Lets get back on topics (:

[tovaris]

Lets get back on topics (:

anywhoo
ilegal to sel alcohol to minors full stop.
God day to you enjoy your beer

[Dark Blue]

I think 21 is an okay age.

[Rynokidd]

Imma just leave this here for anyone who thinks all alcohol should be illegal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

Since it worked so well the first time.

[Jasperf]

I think 21 is an okay age.

What about for consumption?

Uh, yes, we do. The age for a person to be LEGALLY allowed to drink is 21. Where did you hear that bullshit?

21 is not too old. I think it's a good age. I agree with Lou; I think alcohol is disgusting (I've smelled it), and will never drink any



Where did you hear that? There is one.

I at least expected a debate haha


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[Jess]

What about for consumption?

still 21.

[Jasperf]

still 21.

Nope. Not in 44 states, as I stated earlier.

[Capto]

It's complicated.

http://drinkingage.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=002591

Not a good source, but the gist gets through.

[Jasperf]

It's complicated.

http://drinkingage.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=002591

Not a good source, but the gist gets through.

Exactly, it's not outright illegal.

[anole25]

21 is too old. There should be no minimum drinking age!

[hihowisitgoin]

ya it should be illegal

[Jasperf]

21 is too old. There should be no minimum drinking age!

There isnt

[Jess]

There isnt

There should be. Alcohol shouldn't be drunk by minors, as their brains are still developing.

[Jasperf]

There should be. Alcohol shouldn't be drunk by minors, as their brains are still developing.

That's discriminating against religions and cultures

[pvanhouten]

If an adult gives alcohol to someone underage they could be charged with "contributing to the delinquency of a minor"

[Jasperf]

If an adult gives alcohol to someone underage they could be charged with "contributing to the delinquency of a minor"

Depending of which state, though if it were the child, in 44 states that wouldn't be the case

[Emerald Dream]

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