the royal baby!!

[britishboy]

ok do you think its right that the royal baby will be inline to the throne if its a girl? I think its fine because our current Queen is female and the great Queen Victoria was female! btw the baby is due on the 13th:P
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[Bougainvillea]

No one gives a shit because the baby is going to be an asshole just like the rest of the family

[britishboy]

No one gives a shit because the baby is going to be an asshole just like the rest of the family

actually most of Britain cares and they are a international celebrity, their wedding was viewed in 180 countries, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

[saea97]

I'm in no way a monarchist, but I don't see any problem with women being in line to the throne, or indeed being monarch. Elizabeth I and Victoria were some of the best monarchs in the history of this country.

Although it's almost certain that she'll reach the throne, her reign is likely to be fairly short (in relative terms) anyway, given how young the Duke of Cambridge is.

[britishboy]

I'm in no way a monarchist, but I don't see any problem with women being in line to the throne, or indeed being Queen. Elizabeth I and Victoria were some of the best monarchs in the history of this country.

Although it's almost certain that she'll reach the throne, her reign is likely to be fairly short anyway, given how young the Duke of Cambridge is.

yep, I think most monarchs will have shorter rains because theyre all old, the queens been on the throne for 60 years lol

[Jess]

I don't see a problem at all with it if it's a girl

[Walter Powers]

I really don't care.

PS Have you ever had a queen that isn't female? Just sayin...

And why does the gender matter? You Brits aren't sexist when it comes to the thrown, are you?

[SosbanFach]

I really don't care.

PS Have you ever had a queen that isn't female? Just sayin...

And why does the gender matter? You Brits aren't sexist when it comes to the thrown, are you?

Funnily enough, although all our queens have been female, a very large majority of our kings (I have heard estimates as high as 100%) were male.

The system with regards to becoming a monarch is in fact incredibly sexist. Although I'm not well versed in it, first in line is always the eldest son. Not daughter. Only if there are no sons does the crown move to the eldest daughter. This system has come under fire fairly recently (I don't remember if that got anywhere). Obviously, it's completely archaic; the crown ought to move to the eldest child, regardless of gender. However, 'tradition' will get in the way, as always, of any progress made with regards to gender equality within the royal family, and to many it just isn't that big a deal.

[Stronger]

I really want the baby to be a girl, just throwing that out there.

[Capto]

It's some variation of primogeniture, isn't it?

[Neptune]

I hope it's a boy. Only males deserve to have power. Females abuse it and they're just evil. /sarcasm.

Why does it matter? Future Queen or King, they won't be really ruling anything. A female can welcome guests and throw extravagant parties just as well as a guy can.

[FrostWraith]

Does it really matter? The British monarch has no real power anyway, and Britain seems to always have a queen on the throne, sexist inheritance rules or no.

[Stronger]

Does it really matter? The British monarch has no real power anyway, and Britain seems to always have a queen on the throne, sexist inheritance rules or no.

Not really? The super majority of the Monarchs were males.

[Nellerin]

ok do you think its right that the royal baby will be inline to the throne if its a girl? I think its fine because our current Queen is female and the great Queen Victoria was female! btw the baby is due on the 13th:P
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This is what is wrong with the World. People care WAY too much about things like this, they have virtually no power and are just like any other celebrity. Same thing as caring about Kanye's new baby, it does not actually matter.

No one gives a shit because the baby is going to be an asshole just like the rest of the family

This is very true.

actually most of Britain cares and they are a international celebrity, their wedding was viewed in 180 countries, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

Just because something is popular does not mean that we should pay more attention to it. I get that people like to be distracted by these celebrity topics for a little while, but we really need to use our collective brain power to think about other things.

Just my personal opinion, if the Royal Family actually had "power" in the Country, that might be a different story. But in 2013, they are just celebrities.

[Nomad_X]

The system in Britain, and pretty much all of the realms of the former British empire, the commonwealth of nations, have already changed the rules for Female heirs. So if it is a girl there will be no question if she will ascend to the thrown or not.

[Stronk Serb]

Agnatic-Cognatic inheritance system (assuming your royal family is using it) means that males are always on the throne, but if there are no males, a female can inherit.

[britishboy]

Agnatic-Cognatic inheritance system (assuming your royal family is using it) means that males are always on the throne, but if there are no males, a female can inherit.

we have just changed it so whatever gender the baby is, it will be our future monarch, were proud if our anti sexist stuff and considering our current queen is female, I dont see the harm

[Stronk Serb]

we have just changed it so whatever gender the baby is, it will be our future monarch, were proud if our anti sexist stuff and considering our current queen is female, I dont see the harm

It does not matter about it's abilities since the monarch today does not do any work compared to a monarch from let's say... 800-1453.

[britishboy]

It does not matter about it's abilities since the monarch today does not do any work compared to a monarch from let's say... 800-1453.

I think she works more hours but the pm runs the country, her power is more symbolic I believe

[Stronger]

I think she works more hours but the pm runs the country, her power is more symbolic I believe

Correct, she's only a figure head, but she does have a little power I believe, when it comes to Parliament and the Prime Minister, not too sure about the rest. A President of a Republic is almost mirrored that same as a Monarch

[Stronk Serb]

It's some variation of primogeniture, isn't it?

In primogeniture the heir to the throne takes all titles his predecessor held. That has nothing to do with the gender of the heir. The UK had/has the agnatic-cognatic law which means that females could inherit as long as there were no males. The eldest daughter/granddaughter would inherit. The UK might have used gavelkind succession also, since queen Marry was the queen of Scotland, but Elizabeth I was the queen of England. I am not exactly sure if queen Marry was a vassal of queen Elizabeth since both had the same titles, only diferent realms. Anyways, when you put it, the law that was most likely used is agnatic-cognatic gavelkind/primogeniture (if changed which probably happened)

[tovaris]

N because i am of the opinion there should be no monarchs.

[Harry Smith]

actually most of Britain cares and they are a international celebrity, their wedding was viewed in 180 countries, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

That's above ironic, even for you.

No one gives a shit because the baby is going to be an asshole just like the rest of the family

This 100%, you don't see people partying when someone gives birth to a child down at the local hospital. It's just going to be a baby which will grow up being posh, out of touch and arrogant

we have just changed it so whatever gender the baby is, it will be our future monarch, were proud if our anti sexist stuff and considering our current queen is female, I dont see the harm

Proud of our anti-sexist stuff? The Queen is head of the COFE, a church which denies women the chance to became Bishops. That's sexist

I think she works more hours but the pm runs the country, her power is more symbolic I believe

Oh yes well done for the Queen, do you think she's the only person who works in the country? Someone working more hours doesn't validate their job, many criminals work long hours

[Jasperf]

Does it really matter? The British monarch has no real power anyway, and Britain seems to always have a queen on the throne, sexist inheritance rules or no.

It has huge social power

[Sugaree]

I think I'll go with the sentiment in this thread of "Who the fuck cares?".

[Jasperf]

I think I'll go with the sentiment in this thread of "Who the fuck cares?".

Many people care about the English monarchy.

[Camazotz]

I respect your opinion to (not) care about this topic. If it's something that interests you, that's perfectly fine, and there's nothing wrong with that. If it's something that doesn't interest you, that's also perfectly fine, and you have every right to not care.

[Stronk Serb]

Who cares if the baby is getting born. When I was born, there was not even a party, my relatives just came, congradulated my parents and left. It all lasted for 30 minutes.

Many people care about the English monarchy.

Not really. Why would they be happy to have an unelected head of state? And the child will probably be spoiled since it will be the next king or queen. And many Brits will have to feed it and dress it out of there taxes, and when the queen dies, the heir might also refuse to pay the succession tax.

[britishboy]

Who cares if the baby is getting born. When I was born, there was not even a party, my relatives just came, congradulated my parents and left. It all lasted for 30 minutes.



Not really. Why would they be happy to have an unelected head of state? And the child will probably be spoiled since it will be the next king or queen. And many Brits will have to feed it and dress it out of there taxes, and when the queen dies, the heir might also refuse to pay the succession tax.

ok we can afford the taxes, she brings in alot more than she is given and SHE IS A BRITISH SYMBOL AND FIGURE not a monarch, 500 years ago and the last time I want to Australia everyone was so excited that they will have a new baby inline for the thrown, quit hating, the royal wedding was viewed in 180 countries and played on 300 networks, im assuming you hate the other European monarchs?

It has huge social power

ow yes! I forgot shes your queen as well!:D and yeah your right!

[Jasperf]

Who cares if the baby is getting born. When I was born, there was not even a party, my relatives just came, congradulated my parents and left. It all lasted for 30 minutes.



Not really. Why would they be happy to have an unelected head of state? And the child will probably be spoiled since it will be the next king or queen. And many Brits will have to feed it and dress it out of there taxes, and when the queen dies, the heir might also refuse to pay the succession tax.

1) many people look up to the English monarchy.
2) the English monarchy bring more money into the country by tourism alone then they spend.
3) the English monarchy is centuries old... Unlike you.



ow yes! I forgot shes your queen as well!:D and yeah your right!

Yeah, she's many countries queen.
#workingtogetheragain.

[britishboy]

1) many people look up to the English monarchy.
2) the English monarchy bring more money into the country by tourism alone then they spend.
3) the English monarchy is centuries old... Unlike you.




Yeah, she's many countries queen.
#workingtogetheragain.

lol mike is a communist he will disagree with everything sane and ikr! its like one massive family:)

[Jasperf]

lol mike is a communist he will disagree with everything sane and ikr! its like one massive family:)

I think mike is just Jealous because well their prices Katherine is, well lets just say nothing on our princess!

[britishboy]

I think mike is just Jealous because well their prices Katherine is, well lets just say nothing on our princess!

yeah think thats it:P we have the best monarchy in the world, it gets others mad:D

[Jasperf]

That's above ironic, even for you.



This 100%, you don't see people partying when someone gives birth to a child down at the local hospital. It's just going to be a baby which will grow up being posh, out of touch and arrogant



Proud of our anti-sexist stuff? The Queen is head of the COFE, a church which denies women the chance to became Bishops. That's sexist

Oh yes well done for the Queen, do you think she's the only person who works in the country? Someone working more hours doesn't validate their job, many criminals work long hours


Many people look up to the monarchy! Just like any other social symbol/ celeb
And it's any different if any other celebs give birth?

You can't single out the Church of England as being the only sexist church! In fact it gives more rights to women then many others. Plus, your pretty much saying that the church is anti women, and also saying that a female it at it's head...

Many celebs work a small amount of hours, some none at all! Doesn't stop them being celebs

[Stronk Serb]

ok we can afford the taxes, she brings in alot more than she is given and SHE IS A BRITISH SYMBOL AND FIGURE not a monarch, 500 years ago and the last time I want to Australia everyone was so excited that they will have a new baby inline for the thrown, quit hating, the royal wedding was viewed in 180 countries and played on 300 networks, im assuming you hate the other European monarchs?



ow yes! I forgot shes your queen as well!:D and yeah your right!

Not everyone can.

1) many people look up to the English monarchy.
2) the English monarchy bring more money into the country by tourism alone then they spend.
3) the English monarchy is centuries old... Unlike you.




Yeah, she's many countries queen.
#workingtogetheragain.

Yes, and it has a history of tyranny.

lol mike is a communist he will disagree with everything sane and ikr! its like one massive family:)

Why is it insane to dislike some royalty who are unelected heads of state? The decendants of our king do not have any authority in Serbia, nor are heads of state.

I think mike is just Jealous because well their prices Katherine is, well lets just say nothing on our princess!

No, I just dislike the fact that monarchy has ruled over yours and mine ancestors and mistreated them.

yeah think thats it:P we have the best monarchy in the world, it gets others mad:D

Other people are angry because you have an unelected head of state, but brand yourself as a democracy. You have to be specially stupid to believe that current UK is a democracy, but is ruled by a monarch, albeit with larege limitations.

Many people look up to the monarchy! Just like any other social symbol/ celeb
And it's any different if any other celebs give birth?

You can't single out the Church of England as being the only sexist church! In fact it gives more rights to women then many others. Plus, your pretty much saying that the church is anti women, and also saying that a female it at it's head...

Many celebs work a small amount of hours, some none at all! Doesn't stop them being celebs

The problem is, the queen does not do anything productive for the state, except tourism, while the prime minister does a lot more things.

[britishboy]

Not everyone can.


your so stupid your making me laugh! she saves us money on taxes!

[Jasperf]

Not everyone can.

Other people are angry because you have an unelected head of state, but brand yourself as a democracy. You have to be specially stupid to believe that current UK is a democracy, but is ruled by a monarch, albeit with larege limitations.


If the royal family was not bringing any money to the uk it would be costing them $1.10 usd, per person per year... But the thing is, the royal family brings 10s of millions of dollars in, making your first point rather unvalid.
Then if I really wanted to further disarm that point, the British royals own a huge amount of land, One set of land alone, the Crown Estates, is worth £6.2 billion, and makes profits of around £200m per year which are paid to the state.
Even if I do not continue on examples of how the royals are economically effecting the uk, they are costing the Brits a hefty -200 million pounds...


And on your second point, they are a democracy. What political effect can the queen actually have, nothing, she can just get out of a parking ticket..

[Harry Smith]

Many people look up to the monarchy! Just like any other social symbol/ celeb
And it's any different if any other celebs give birth?

You can't single out the Church of England as being the only sexist church! In fact it gives more rights to women then many others. Plus, your pretty much saying that the church is anti women, and also saying that a female it at it's head...

Many celebs work a small amount of hours, some none at all! Doesn't stop them being celebs

Did I mention anything about celebrities? Did I praise celebrities?

I know islam is worse, that doesn't justify the COFE denying women becoming Bishops does it, just because they have a female head doesn't mean that all sexism is removed, that's like saying that all Racism has gone from America now Obama is in office.

But the thing is, the royal family brings 10s of millions of dollars in, making your first point rather unvalid.

''The key figure is £150m, the estimated total cost for the maintenance and lifestyles of one family: 100 times the cost of the Irish presidency, 17 times the cost (per person) of members of parliament and without any return on our 'investment'.''

[Stronk Serb]

your so stupid your making me laugh! she saves us money on taxes!

Great I am the stupid one, at least I can spell right. And not everyone is born rich, there are homeless people who cannot pay anything.

If the royal family was not bringing any money to the uk it would be costing them $1.10 usd, per person per year... But the thing is, the royal family brings 10s of millions of dollars in, making your first point rather unvalid.
Then if I really wanted to further disarm that point, the British royals own a huge amount of land, One set of land alone, the Crown Estates, is worth £6.2 billion, and makes profits of around £200m per year which are paid to the state.
Even if I do not continue on examples of how the royals are economically effecting the uk, they are costing the Brits a hefty -200 million pounds...


And on your second point, they are a democracy. What political effect can the queen actually have, nothing, she can just get out of a parking ticket..

It is not a democracy, in a democracy the head of state is elected by the people. She is exempted of all taxes, she has not paid her inheritance tax, and is living off the working people. Those are minor effects with the money which is paid by her, hundreds of millions mean a lot to us, but in the government apparatus, it is a small amount.

[britishboy]

Great I am the stupid one, at least I can spell right. And not everyone is born rich, there are homeless people who cannot pay anything.



It is not a democracy, in a democracy the head of state is elected by the people. She is exempted of all taxes, she has not paid her inheritance tax, and is living off the working people. Those are minor effects with the money which is paid by her, hundreds of millions mean a lot to us, but in the government apparatus, it is a small amount.

I never said everyone was born rich, we want her and the people divide the stuff that happens, thats why were a democracy, the prime minister has the position of head of state, the queen has the title

[Stronk Serb]

I never said everyone was born rich, we want her and the people divide the stuff that happens, thats why were a democracy, the prime minister has the position of head of state, the queen has the title

Do you want her? Was it voted that you want her?

[britishboy]

Do you want her? Was it voted that you want her?

yep:) and theres not alot of people that dont want her, most that are gay hating all religions and stuff like that and communists or nazis. and the vast majority of the commonwealth want her, its not jist britians say

[Jasperf]

Not everyone can.



Yes, and it has a history of tyranny.



Why is it insane to dislike some royalty who are unelected heads of state? The decendants of our king do not have any authority in Serbia, nor are heads of state.



No, I just dislike the fact that monarchy has ruled over yours and mine ancestors and mistreated them.



Other people are angry because you have an unelected head of state, but brand yourself as a democracy. You have to be specially stupid to believe that current UK is a democracy, but is ruled by a monarch, albeit with larege limitations.



The problem is, the queen does not do anything productive for the state, except tourism, while the prime minister does a lot more things.

Great I am the stupid one, at least I can spell right. And not everyone is born rich, there are homeless people who cannot pay anything.



It is not a democracy, in a democracy the head of state is elected by the people. She is exempted of all taxes, she has not paid her inheritance tax, and is living off the working people. Those are minor effects with the money which is paid by her, hundreds of millions mean a lot to us, but in the government apparatus, it is a small amount.

None of what you just said has any relevance, as all those points have already been proven wrong.

[Harry Smith]

your so stupid your making me laugh! she saves us money on taxes!

She saves us money on taxes? The Duchy doesn't pay tax neither does it reveal it's financial records

I never said everyone was born rich, we want her and the people divide the stuff that happens, thats why were a democracy, the prime minister has the position of head of state, the queen has the title

The Prime minister does not have the position of head of state one bit, I thought you had 3 private tutors?

[Stronk Serb]

None of what you just said has any relevance, as all those points have already been proven wrong.

So she by the law cannot refuse to pay taxes? From a link britishboy sent me, she does not have to pay any tax, by law she can refuse. The whole Parliament is there to limit crown authority, not remove it. The UK by definition is a parliamentary monarchy. It has the monarch as the head of state. Face it, you have an unelected head of state, you are just obsessed with royalty that you have forgot the attrocities of the English monarchy, ordered by royalty itself.

She saves us money on taxes? The Duchy doesn't pay tax neither does it reveal it's financial records



The Prime minister does not have the position of head of state one bit, I thought you had 3 private tutors?

Good luck with convincing them. You have better chances convincing me to be a capitalist.

[Harry Smith]

Good luck with convincing them. You have better chances convincing me to be a capitalist.

What if a offer you the chance of a puppy? Would that make you want to be a capitalist?

[Jasperf]

So she by the law cannot refuse to pay taxes? From a link britishboy sent me, she does not have to pay any tax, by law she can refuse. The whole Parliament is there to limit crown authority, not remove it. The UK by definition is a parliamentary monarchy. It has the monarch as the head of state. Face it, you have an unelected head of state, you are just obsessed with royalty that you have forgot the attrocities of the English monarchy, ordered by royalty itself.

Well firstly my country does have an elected head of state.
Exept for the fact that the monarchy is recognised as being the head of state, it has almost no further palimentary value.
As for the taxes, how the fuck is someone meant to pay taxes when all of their earnings go straight back to the state. The monarchy gets £9.7m which comes fr the tax payers money. In return they bring In 10s of millions in tourism and 100s of millions from their estates. As for the huge amount spent on the upkeep of their abodes. That amount would be spent on the houses whether their was a royal family or not, because they are all historically listed buildings that English heritage would take care of.

[britishboy]

She saves us money on taxes? The Duchy doesn't pay tax neither does it reveal it's financial records



The Prime minister does not have the position of head of state one bit, I thought you had 3 private tutors?

he acts as head of state, when's the last time the queen has done politics?

[Stronk Serb]

What if a offer you the chance of a puppy? Would that make you want to be a capitalist?

I prefer cats, but puppies are cool, it depens on what kind? Labrador, retrieveor?

[Trenton_]

What happens if the kid is born gay or something?

[Harry Smith]

he acts as head of state, when's the last time the queen has done politics?

He doesn't act as the head of state...

The head of state appoints the head of government, how could Cameron appoint himself?

The queen does politics every 5 years, she calls the general election, she appoints the prime minister and she is the commander of chief. She is the head of state without doubt

And for you mike- A Labrador, who can't love them

[britishboy]

What happens if the kid is born gay or something?

unlikely, he will be king but obviously fail to produce an heir, prince harry or his kids will succeed the thrown

[britishboy]

He doesn't act as the head of state...

The head of state appoints the head of government, how could Cameron appoint himself?

The queen does politics every 5 years, she calls the general election, she appoints the prime minister and she is the commander of chief. She is the head of state without doubt

And for you mike- A Labrador, who can't love them

does she raise taxes, build train lines? the things she does is symbolic, and being british I love her, LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!
britian will not be britian with out her, everything is royal this and crown that, just listen to the national amthem!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtN9EC3Gy6Nk

[Harry Smith]

I prefer cats, but puppies are cool, it depens on what kind? Labrador, retrieveor?

does she raise taxes, build train lines? the things she does is symbolic, and being british I love her, LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!
britian will not be britian with out her, everything is royal this and crown that, just listen to the national amthem!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DtN9EC3Gy6Nk

Your very confused Jack. I always said that she has symbolic power but it's still legal power

The head of Government called David Cameron manages the country by setting taxes etc.

The Head of state who is the Queen has the executive power- she commands the armed forces and appoints the parliament.

Your last two lines have no course in a debate, it's just personal crap about your emotions that have no bearing on anything

[britishboy]

Your very confused Jack. I always said that she has symbolic power but it's still legal power

The head of Government called David Cameron manages the country by setting taxes etc.

The Head of state who is the Queen has the executive power- she commands the armed forces and appoints the parliament.

Your last two lines have no course in a debate, it's just personal crap about your emotions that have no bearing on anything

our whole country is based around her! we wont be britian with out her!

[Jasperf]

What happens if the kid is born gay or something?

Then he's gay... What difference does it make.

[Harry Smith]

our whole country is based around her! we wont be britian with out her!

Well done on ignoring my point, can you admit when you're completely wrong?

we have an un-elected head of state, that's not democratic

[britishboy]

Well done on ignoring my point, can you admit when you're completely wrong?

we have an un-elected head of state, that's not democratic

alright is that ment to mean anything? im british and proud of britian and the queen and the commonwea family she has given us

[Harry Smith]

alright is that ment to mean anything? im british and proud of britian and the queen and the commonwea family she has given us

Your proud of the commonwealth? Little secret we kinda had to kill a lot of people to get it, the commonwealth means fuck all.

No trade deals, No defense deals, No free movement. It's worthless.

Your proud at having a Leader who in all fairness has less legitimate power than Adolf Hitler did in 1933

[britishboy]

Your proud of the commonwealth? Little secret we kinda had to kill a lot of people to get it, the commonwealth means fuck all.

No trade deals, No defense deals, No free movement. It's worthless.

Your proud at having a Leader who in all fairness has less legitimate power than Adolf Hitler did in 1933

now you sound like an Argentine troll, im british and were a family, we share our beautiful queen, im proud of my could

[Harry Smith]

now you sound like an Argentine troll, im british and were a family, we share our beautiful queen, im proud of my could

I'm British as-well, I'm pointing out a fact you cannot deny.

You always critize so many other countries such as Iraq, Serbia etc for their lack of democracy yet we have a system where the Armed forces swear allegiance to an un-elected official who is only in power because her dad was

[tovaris]

now you sound like an Argentine troll, im british and were a family, we share our beautiful queen, im proud of my could

Just to remind you, the royal house is not of british otigin... You have a fereighn unlected autoctat as head of state. Just so you know.

[Harry Smith]

Just ti remind you, the royal house is not of british otigin... You have a fereighn unlected autoctat as head of state. Just so you know.

For once you know I 100% agree

[Stronk Serb]

He doesn't act as the head of state...

The head of state appoints the head of government, how could Cameron appoint himself?

The queen does politics every 5 years, she calls the general election, she appoints the prime minister and she is the commander of chief. She is the head of state without doubt

And for you mike- A Labrador, who can't love them

A Labrador sounds nice. It would be a bit tricky raising it since my cat would be pissed by a furry creature which would just like to play. She just likes to lay on my bed sleeping all day.

[Trenton_]

unlikely, he will be king but obviously fail to produce an heir, prince harry or his kids will succeed the thrown

Then he's gay... What difference does it make.

Well, let's say harry kills his brother and you're left with a gay guy and his mate? then what happens?

[Harry Smith]

Well, let's say harry kills his brother and you're left with a gay guy and his mate? then what happens?

Then he'll be arrested!

So what if we have a gay monarch? It will just be covered up, he'll marry someone but have guys on the side.

But so what?

[Jasperf]

Well, let's say harry kills his brother and you're left with a gay guy and his mate? then what happens?

Then he'll be arrested!

So what if we have a gay monarch? It will just be covered up, he'll marry someone but have guys on the side.

But so what?

Either what Harry said, or as has been done in the past an heir will be adopted by the gay king and the line will continue. And if no adoption is made, the royal family is huge there are plenty in line for the throne.

[pineinchneis]

she has a lot of symbolic power: her approval is required to make bills law (royal assent), but this hasn't been refused in over 300 years. shes head of state and head of the armed forces.
im not really a monarchist though

[Azunite]

actually most of Britain cares and they are a international celebrity, their wedding was viewed in 180 countries, if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

It is because there are 180 countries in the world and surely one person was curious about the wedding in each country.

[Stronk Serb]

now you sound like an Argentine troll, im british and were a family, we share our beautiful queen, im proud of my could

You are proud of having a monarch. And you call Serbia undemocratic. We at least have elections where we choose the president.

[Human]

I don't care about it full stop, never mind whether it's a boy or a girl.
It's not like it will have an effect on my life for years, and the effect will just be a figurehead of England.

[britishboy]

the beauty of the monarchy is that theres media from all around the world filming it and I can talk to a guy from new zeland, literally the other side of the planet about our leader

if the queen left britian will have to change soooo much

[Jevon]

That lady is pregnant??? Dang but umm yah idk much about monarchy so yah

[Harry Smith]

the beauty of the monarchy is that theres media from all around the world filming it and I can talk to a guy from new zeland, literally the other side of the planet about our leader

if the queen left britian will have to change soooo much

I also believed a lot of people wanted to film our beloved friend from Germany in 1936 at the Olympics.

I'm sure people also argued that when Hitler died so much would change. I've talked to someone in Australia about Tony Blair, does that mean he's popular or good enough to be a monarch?

You don't really have an argument, it's just monarchesque wank.

[britishboy]

I also believed a lot of people wanted to film our beloved friend from Germany in 1936 at the Olympics.

I'm sure people also argued that when Hitler died so much would change. I've talked to someone in Australia about Tony Blair, does that mean he's popular or good enough to be a monarch?

You don't really have an argument, it's just monarchesque wank.

everything in london is based around the monachy, the commonwealth family will not exist with out her, we will lose national identity, and we will have to change the amthe, if she had power I would be against her but like most, I believe she is just a well followed symbol

[Harry Smith]

everything in london is based around the monachy, the commonwealth family will not exist with out her, we will lose national identity, and we will have to change the amthe, if she had power I would be against her but like most, I believe she is just a well followed symbol

Everything? The Shard? The London eye?

We won't lose our national identity, the British national identify leans towards republicans look at Peterloo massarce, the Hanover kings and the civil war. Our national identify is to to demand democracy, and it's un-democratic, do you dispute that?

If she doesn't have power then what's the point in her?

[britishboy]

Everything? The Shard? The London eye?

We won't lose our national identity, the British national identify leans towards republicans look at Peterloo massarce, the Hanover kings and the civil war. Our national identify is to to demand democracy, and it's un-democratic, do you dispute that?

If she doesn't have power then what's the point in her?
God save our gracious Queen!
Long live our noble Queen!
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen.

Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour,
Long may she reign.
May she defend our laws,
And give us ever cause,
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen.

thats the first bit of our anthem, and royal this, royal that and to be honest I dont know I just enjoy saying long live the queen and the commonwealth etc etc, I see no harm in her we run by elected people, shes a symbol and a celebrity

[Harry Smith]

God save our gracious Queen!
Long live our noble Queen!
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen.

Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour,
Long may she reign.
May she defend our laws,
And give us ever cause,
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen.

thats the first bit of our anthem, and royal this, royal that and to be honest I dont know I just enjoy saying long live the queen and the commonwealth etc etc, I see no harm in her we run by elected people, shes a symbol and a celebrity

Wow, I just lost the last ounce of respect for you. That has to be the worse post I've ever seen

[britishboy]

Wow, I just lost the last ounce of respect for you. That has to be the worse post I've ever seen

its 11:25 give me a break:P and its true

[Harry Smith]

its 11:25 give me a break:P and its true

What's true? That Britain has an un-elected head of state

[britishboy]

What's true? That Britain has an un-elected head of state

if she done anything I would be against but in a time of economic sensitivity and social divisions as it is she should be kept the same and her removal will do nothing on the political scene, she does no harm

[Harry Smith]

if she done anything I would be against but in a time of economic sensitivity and social divisions as it is she should be kept the same and her removal will do nothing on the political scene, she does no harm

So your happy to keep someone in power who has no democratic right to be their?

Her removal would allow us to vote for a head of state who actually has power rather than just sitting in castle wasting money.

[CharlieHorse]

We still have "royalty"? What the hay? I thought we were past those primitive days :/

[britishboy]

So your happy to keep someone in power who has no democratic right to be their?

Her removal would allow us to vote for a head of state who actually has power rather than just sitting in castle wasting money.

1) yep if she was anything more than a symbol it would be a no
2) ok we vote for the pm, I think your over reacting and have failed to analyze the situation

[britishboy]

We still have "royalty"? What the hay? I thought we were past those primitive days :/

I think 12 countries in europe still do

[Harry Smith]

1) yep if she was anything more than a symbol it would be a no
2) ok we vote for the pm, I think your over reacting and have failed to analyze the situation

I've failed?

She has the power to strip the prime minister of his power, she has control of the army and she can dissolve parliament. She has gross power for someone who's only their because of her dad.

Also we don't vote for our prime minister in the UK...

[britishboy]

I've failed?

She has the power to strip the prime minister of his power, she has control of the army and she can dissolve parliament. She has gross power for someone who's only their because of her dad.

Also we don't vote for our prime minister in the UK...

1) omg! thats symbolic legal power! she orders that everyone will laugh at her!
2)are you a uk citizen? then assuming you dont go to prison you can vote when your 18

[Harry Smith]

1) omg! thats symbolic legal power! she orders that everyone will laugh at her!
2)are you a uk citizen? then assuming you dont go to prison you can vote when your 18

You vote for your MP at the age of 18. The Prime minister is the leader of the party who has the highest amount of seats. I can't believe I'm explaining how our government works to someone called 'britishboy'

[britishboy]

You vote for your MP at the age of 18. The Prime minister is the leader of the party who has the highest amount of seats. I can't believe I'm explaining how our government works to someone called 'britishboy'

I know how it works, im talking to a fellow brit not explaining this to kids in a foreign country, your over analysing

[Harry Smith]

I know how it works, im talking to a fellow brit not explaining this to kids in a foreign country, your over analysing

You don't know how it works... you thought we voted for our PM directly

[britishboy]

You don't know how it works... you thought we voted for our PM directly

you do realize I study this stuff right?

[Harry Smith]

you do realize I study this stuff right?

But you were still incorrect whether you study it or not

[Emerald Dream]

Does any of this have to do with the royal baby?

Let's get back on-topic please.

[britishboy]

Does any of this have to do with the royal baby?

Let's get back on-topic please.

locked please

[Emerald Dream]

Locked at OP request. :locked: