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chillaxman
July 9th, 2013, 08:13 PM
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In order to restore their dying safe haven, the son of Poseidon and his friends embark on a quest to the Sea of Monsters to find the mythical Golden Fleece and to stop an ancient evil from rising. -IMDB Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters page

Hey, VT, I'd like to know what you guys think of the upcoming Percy Jackson movie. It seems as if people are still excited for this movie and to be honest, so am I. The first movie was good if you were a kid who didn't read the books. I was just that. The movie inspired me to read the books (which I hadn't even heard of until the movie came out), but I didn't get to reading them for 2+ years. The second and third times I watched the movie I thoroughly enjoyed it again, even though I was older. I ignored the criticisms it got because I liked it and that's all that matters. I didn't pick up the books until the last few months of 2012. Once I started reading them, I couldn't put them down. As soon as I got the chance I went out and bought the box set of all 5 novels. The books were a great read, although they had some problems. (I may post issues I had with them later on) What I noticed most was the way the movie butchered the continuity of the books.

First of all, the entire cast aged a good 2-3 years. I wouldn't have had a problem with that if I didn't realize how the age of the characters was such a vital plot point. I would use the book and movie's release dates as an excuse, but I'm pretty sure that plot point had been established in book 3, before the movie came out. That is going to be an issue later on. Lerman already looks 17 in Sea of Monsters. He's not going to get any younger.

The second issue I had (Although it's a minor issue, I feel like if I don't mention it, people will bitch about me) was the casting. I really like the main trio, but they dropped the ball continuity-wise on Annabeth and Grover. Annabeth was supposed to be blonde and look like more of a tomboy. Grover they completely changed. I don't have a problem with him being black, as I'm black myself. The cast appears to be a strong cast, but their performances can be weak at times.

The third issue would have to be the writing. The jokes were funny for me three years ago, but right now they're either bad or mediocre. The books suffer from this as well. This would also include the continuity errors that the movies have. I haven't seen the first movie in a little bit so I won't go into depth about those. The movies seem to be directed at the aging fans of the Percy Jackson series, while throwing in things for the kids. It would have been great if they did it well. The books seem to be aimed at the kids that fell in love with the books that happen to age much slower than Riordan thinks they do.

Fourth and final issue I have is Rick Riordan's involvement with the films. I dislike his attitude about the film series. He doesn't seem to want anything to do with the movies because they'll get his vision of the characters and everything wrong. That makes sense and respectable, except that he allowed this to happen. He could have easily said you can't do these movies because of this reason. He could have also not agreed to give the rights unless he has a major involvement with ALL of them. Instead he chooses to ignore their existence while reaping the profits he's allowed from the movies. It's kind of a dick move in my opinion.


Ranting aside, I think we can go on to the second Percy Jackson film. We haven't seen much of it, which is why this thread is based on the series in general, and not just the film. From the trailers I've seen, it looks mediocre. Grover shouldn't be present at all, and for some reason Tyson has two eyes. I don't know the reason for that. On the positive side, it seems as if they're trying to fix some continuity errors. (and Clarisse is a qt3.14) It's nothing I'd go to the midnight premier of, but it's something I'd go see in theaters.

Can the cinematic series be saved? Or is it destined to flop? What went wrong? That's all I got. Discuss!

Emerald Dream
July 9th, 2013, 08:27 PM
What went wrong?

Well, the first movie strayed so far from the book that I hated it. Whoever wrote that steaming pile of crap of a script decided that they would cut out major characters altogether and merge other characters together. In the books, weren't Ares and Clarisse major characters that were essential to the actual storyline?? It seems that someone, in their infinite stupidity, decided it was a good idea to merge the original characters of Annabeth and Clarisse. In the book, Annabeth isn't the badass that she is in the movie. The main villain in the movie isn't even the same as it is in the book. Whoever wrote the screenplay - completely changed the characters AND the story.

I don't blame Rick Riordan for wanting to stay away from this, if it is anything like the first movie. The first movie was an absolute disgrace to the book.

chillaxman
July 9th, 2013, 08:37 PM
What went wrong?

Well, the first movie strayed so far from the book that I hated it. Whoever wrote that steaming pile of crap of a script decided that they would cut out major characters altogether and merge other characters together. In the books, weren't Ares and Clarisse major characters that were essential to the actual storyline?? It seems that someone, in their infinite stupidity, decided it was a good idea to merge the original characters of Annabeth and Clarisse. In the book, Annabeth isn't the badass that she is in the movie. The main villain in the movie isn't even the same as it is in the book. Whoever wrote the screenplay - completely changed the characters AND the story.

I don't blame Rick Riordan for wanting to stay away from this, if it is anything like the first movie. The first movie was an absolute disgrace to the book.

I agree with you all the way, but I think Riordan said that before PJ1 was released. I'm mad at him because he allowed this to happen. He could have prevented this or at least made the movie a lot better, but instead he let them do whatever and took the profits. It's lazy in my opinion. I'm sure he could have taken a break from writing whatever he was at the time to help/guide the incompetent writers. The man pretty much pumps out a book a year. It's good that he's quick, but the books might have been better if he spaced out his writing a little more.

EDIT: Yeah, Rick said that back in 2010. I went on his website and saw what he wrote, but it still bothers me. He could have pushed to get that input. Hell, he didn't have to sell the rights at all.

Emerald Dream
July 9th, 2013, 08:42 PM
I agree with you all the way, but I think Riordan said that before PJ1 was released. I'm mad at him because he allowed this to happen. He could have prevented this or at least made the movie a lot better, but instead he let them do whatever and took the profits. It's lazy in my opinion. I'm sure he could have taken a break from writing whatever he was at the time to help/guide the incompetent writers. The man pretty much pumps out a book a year. It's good that he's quick, but the books might have been better if he spaced out his writing a little more.

He may not have been able to change it, if in any way he sold the movie rights to the books. Whether he was a consultant and ever on the set of the movie....it may not have mattered. The book was good....the screenplay may have been alright, if you had never read the original book.

chillaxman
July 9th, 2013, 08:49 PM
He may not have been able to change it, if in any way he sold the movie rights to the books. Whether he was a consultant and ever on the set of the movie....it may not have mattered. The book was good....the screenplay may have been alright, if you had never read the original book.

He said he wasn't able to do anything or have any involvement with the movie, aside from a few script suggestions. That part I get, because that's common. I don't blame him for allowing the movie to be bad, which he didn't. I'm sorry if it seemed that way earlier. I blame him for selling the rights and being okay without having input. He chose the easy way out.

Emerald Dream
July 9th, 2013, 09:00 PM
He said he wasn't able to do anything or have any involvement with the movie, aside from a few script suggestions. That part I get, because that's common. I don't blame him for allowing the movie to be bad, which he didn't. I'm sorry if it seemed that way earlier. I blame him for selling the rights and being okay without having input. He chose the easy way out.

That's probably why he has the attitude he does about it now. It sucked compared to the book.

chillaxman
July 9th, 2013, 09:15 PM
That's probably why he has the attitude he does about it now. It sucked compared to the book.

He had that attitude when the movie came out, saying he wouldn't see it. He probably has had that attitude for a while now. He just could have pushed for better. He may not have gotten it, but he didn't have to sell them at all.

Here's hoping the thread lives until the release of Sea of Monsters. As bad as the first one was and as mediocre as this one looks, I'm still willing to give it a try. It's something to do at least. I guess it could be just series discussion until then.

Cygnus
July 10th, 2013, 06:12 PM
It was about time that the next movie in the series came out, they certainly took their time.

Jess
July 10th, 2013, 06:26 PM
I hated the first movie because it strayed so far from the book. And Annabeth was supposed to be BLONDE! BLONDE!

Anyways, even though I hated it (that they messed it up), I still ended up watching it. Completely different plot aside, it was okay, but I still cringed at every part they messed up (when comparing against the book)...well, which was basically everything

I am looking forward to seeing how this second film is.

Starling City
August 30th, 2013, 11:00 AM
I'm planning on renting this one. It's not a theater must-see.

EddietheZombie
September 1st, 2013, 01:13 AM
It will probably be cut way to short, and have other major characters deleted again. Not going to see it unless it comes out on DVD or i can watch it on a website.

Amazerful
October 11th, 2013, 01:51 PM
I'm not excited about it at all, they already ruined the first movie

Luminous
October 11th, 2013, 02:08 PM
Loved the books, read them way before the movie came out, actually in the middle of the one that came out like 2 days ago right now. I love the movie as well, but definitely not as a companion to the books, as they are not alike in any way. If we stop comparing then I think they are both great. Haven't seen the Sea of Monsters movie yet.