Marijuana Should Be Legal (does anybody disagree?)

[Nellerin]

Marijuana... it sure is beautiful (and I almost NEVER smoke it by the way)

Since there are hundreds and potentially thousands of medical uses (not just treatment but prevention as well) for Marijuana, does anybody actually think it should still be illegal?

Marijuana could potentially even cure cancer now that we know Cannabidiol (CBD) forces new cancer cells to stop asking for nutrients resulting in them dying out.

Gotta love that the drug companies and the prison system market is so powerful that they keep one of the most precious and beneficial plants illegal in some areas.

Not to mention Hemp and its myriad of uses which would render regular paper or cotton almost unnecessary.

AND it is one of the most beneficial super foods known to man.

[ImCoolBeans]

While you can debate the subject, don't post pictures. I deleted yours.

[Walter Powers]

Undecided. I mean I think the war on drugs is a waste of time, I think we should invest those forces into more pertinent problems like enforcing the border, but it's also a very bad thing to do to your body. However, we should not give people lighter sentences for doing bad things while under it's influence. Some people have advocated that; it's how some laws are relating to other drugs and is nonsense. I guess my stance is libertarian.

[Nellerin]

Undecided. I mean I think the war on drugs is a waste of time, I think we should invest those forces into more pertinent problems like enforcing the border, but it's also a very bad thing to do to your body. However, we should not give people lighter sentences for doing bad things while under it's influence. Some people have advocated that; it's how some laws are relating to other drugs and is nonsense.

How the hell is that Libertarian? The Libertarian Party wants to regular Marijuana in the same way as Wine...

There are zero downsides to Marijuana when CBD=THC.

[Walter Powers]

How the hell is that Libertarian? The Libertarian Party wants to regular Marijuana in the same way as Wine...

There are zero downsides to Marijuana when CBD=THC.

Both Ron Paul and John Stossel, the to only libertarians I ever here about really, want to "end the war on drugs." Also, I found this on the Libertarian party's website:

We favor the repeal of all laws creating “crimes” without victims, such as the use of drugs for medicinal or recreational purposes.
It most certainly is a libertarian stance.

[Jevon]

Undecided. I mean I think the war on drugs is a waste of time, I think we should invest those forces into more pertinent problems like enforcing the border, but it's also a very bad thing to do to your body. However, we should not give people lighter sentences for doing bad things while under it's influence. Some people have advocated that; it's how some laws are relating to other drugs and is nonsense.

I agree with this...and with the fact that it can be used for way more than just medical use like it would be way better to just legalize it and just tax the shit out of it

[Cygnus]

I think it should just be legal for legitimate medical uses and thats it.

[Nellerin]

Both Ron Paul and John Stossel, the to only libertarians I ever here about really, want to "end the war on drugs." Also, I found this on the Libertarian party's website:


It most certainly is a libertarian stance.

Gotta love how you completely removed half of your original post regarding the "libertarian" stance and whatnot. Petty thing to do to try and make your posts seem smart when you go back and change them.

Also, how does it do anything bad? Please elaborate. Nothing bad comes from Marijuana when CBD=THC.

I agree with this...and with the fact that it can be used for way more than just medical use like it would be way better to just legalize it and just tax the shit out of it

Where is the benefit in taxing it a lot?

I think it should just be legal for legitimate medical uses and thats it.

Funny part about that is that it can prevent hundreds of diseases including cancer, so everyone on Earth has a legitimate medical use for it :yes:

[Walter Powers]

Gotta love how you completely removed half of your original post regarding the "libertarian" stance and whatnot. Petty thing to do to try and make your posts seem smart when you go back and change them.

Also, how does it do anything bad? Please elaborate. Nothing bad comes from Marijuana when CBD=THC.



Where is the benefit in taxing it a lot?



Funny part about that is that it can prevent hundreds of diseases including cancer, so everyone on Earth has a legitimate medical use for it :yes:

I didn't remove anything, but I apologize if I did.

[Nellerin]

I didn't remove anything, but I apologize if I did.

There is no reference to Libertarians in your first post now, which is why I replied directly to that claim. Yes you removed it and changed the content of your post since I was right with my response.

[Southside]

Needs to be legal, it'd save tons of tax payer money and free up a lot of jail space.

Now I agree things like Meth and Cocaine should stay illegal, but weed never really did anything bad when used responsible.

"Instead of a war on poverty, they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me"-2pac

[Walter Powers]

There is no reference to Libertarians in your first post now, which is why I replied directly to that claim. Yes you removed it and changed the content of your post since I was right with my response.

Huh. I swear I did not intend to do that. I think I was gonna edit and do something else and accidently deleted it. I'll put it back for ya :)

[Origami]

I only support the medicinal usage of marijuana. The general public refuses to acknowledge that it is in fact a mind altering substance and does pose a danger comparable to that of alcohol to people who use it poorly.

Until people quit hyping about the good and start opening their eyes to the bad, I say keep arresting them for possession.

[Nellerin]

I only support the medicinal usage of marijuana. The general public refuses to acknowledge that it is in fact a mind altering substance and does pose a danger comparable to that of alcohol to people who use it poorly.

Until people quit hyping about the good and start opening their eyes to the bad, I say keep arresting them for possession.

Hahah you are so ignorant and actually Stupid for that matter. Are you really so dense as to think that the danger is similar to alcohol, I feel bad for you.

Many people die from alcohol use. Nobody dies from marijuana use. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that more than 37,000 annual U.S. deaths, including more than 1,400 in Colorado, are attributed to alcohol use alone (i.e. this figure does not include accidental deaths). On the other hand, the CDC does not even have a category for deaths caused by the use of marijuana.

People die from alcohol overdoses. There has never been a fatal marijuana overdose. The official publication of the Scientific Research Society, American Scientist, reported that alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect could lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands of times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands of times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a case of an individual dying from a marijuana overdose. Meanwhile, according to the CDC, hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths occur the United States each year.

The health-related costs associated with alcohol use far exceed those for marijuana use. Health-related costs for alcohol consumers are eight times greater than those for marijuana consumers, according to an assessment recently published in the British Columbia Mental Health and Addictions Journal. More specifically, the annual cost of alcohol consumption is $165 per user, compared to just $20 per user for marijuana. This should not come as a surprise given the vast amount of research that shows alcohol poses far more – and more significant – health problems than marijuana.

Alcohol use damages the brain. Marijuana use does not. Despite the myths we've heard throughout our lives about marijuana killing brain cells, it turns out that a growing number of studies seem to indicate that marijuana actually has neuroprotective properties. This means that it works to protect brain cells from harm. For example, one recent study found that teens who used marijuana as well as alcohol suffered significantly less damage to the white matter in their brains. Of course, what is beyond question is that alcohol damages brain cells.

Alcohol use is linked to cancer. Marijuana use is not. Alcohol use is associated with a wide variety of cancers, including cancers of the esophagus, stomach, colon, lungs, pancreas, liver and prostate. Marijuana use has not been conclusively associated with any form of cancer. In fact, one study recently contradicted the long-time government claim that marijuana use is associated with head and neck cancers. It found that marijuana use actually reduced the likelihood of head and neck cancers. If you are concerned about marijuana being associated with lung cancer, you may be interested in the results of the largest case-controlled study ever conducted to investigate the respiratory effects of marijuana smoking and cigarette smoking. Released in 2006, the study, conducted by Dr. Donald Tashkin at the University of California at Los Angeles, found that marijuana smoking was not associated with an increased risk of developing lung cancer. Surprisingly, the researchers found that people who smoked marijuana actually had lower incidences of cancer compared to non-users of the drug.

Alcohol is more addictive than marijuana. Addiction researchers have consistently reported that marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol based on a number of factors. In particular, alcohol use can result in significant and potentially fatal physical withdrawal, whereas marijuana has not been found to produce any symptoms of physical withdrawal. Those who use alcohol are also much more likely to develop dependence and build tolerance.
Alcohol use increases the risk of injury to the consumer. Marijuana use does not. Many people who have consumed alcohol or know others who have consumed alcohol would not be surprised to hear that it greatly increases the risk of serious injury. Research published this year in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research, found that 36 percent of hospitalized assaults and 21 percent of all injuries are attributable to alcohol use by the injured person. Meanwhile, the American Journal of Emergency Medicine reported that lifetime use of marijuana is rarely associated with emergency room visits. According to the British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, this is because: "Cannabis differs from alcohol … in one major respect. It does not seem to increase risk-taking behavior. This means that cannabis rarely contributes to violence either to others or to oneself, whereas alcohol use is a major factor in deliberate self-harm, domestic accidents and violence." Interestingly enough, some research has even shown that marijuana use has been associated with a decreased risk of injury.

[Origami]

Whose arguing health? We all know marijuana is healthy, I even said I support it's medicinal use. Granted it isn't as effective as some other already available drugs.

So since I said the health benefits were good, I'm disregarding your whole "health" based argument.

I'm talking general day-to-day scenarios. Drunk drivers! People love to use this argument when trying to legalize weed. Problem is, smoking marijuana decreases your awareness and reaction times. Reaction times alone prevent countless accidents. Marijuana is not safe. Stop looking at the good for a minute.

Short term memory. Just like alcohol, marijuana is linked to memory loss. In the wrong situation, both are dangerous or at least restricting.

Learning impairment. Oh goody! This is my favorite. Alcohol kills your brain, we know this. But I bet you didn't know that studies suggest teens who smoke actually post lower scores on their tests! That's right, weed hurts your academics too!

But of course you probably weren't raised in a family environment where weed was a day-to-day occurrence either, huh?

So yes. The dangers are comparable. Again, it's idiots like you who only jump at the good that have me in direct opposition of it's legalization. Again, I only support it's medicinal uses.

[DerBear]

I think it should remain illegal unless for medical purposes as I do feel that in the wrong hands it could cause the same issues if not worse as alcohol. I mean lets say a person gets behind the wheel high, there reaction and think process could be slower or less aware than that of someone who isn't under the influence.

Keep arresting people who have it in possession and teach kids the dangers of drugs. Especially one that can become mentally addictive and alter ones mind.

[screamtobeheard]

I think it should be legal, same as alcohol. I agree that it poses similar risks as alcohol consumption, but we should be encouraging people to use it safely, or only for medicinal purposes. I think it should be flat out legal, but consequences should be in place for misuse, similar to those of alcohol abuse.

[Professional Russian]

I agree with this...and with the fact that it can be used for way more than just medical use like it would be way better to just legalize it and just tax the shit out of it

That's why they don't legalize it. They can't tax it. Its a plant as long as I get a hold of one plant I can make as many as I want and get it for free without dealing with government taxes. All the government wants is money. They don't give a fuck about your health

[Ryhanna]

I think it should be legal, same as alcohol. I agree that it poses similar risks as alcohol consumption, but we should be encouraging people to use it safely, or only for medicinal purposes. I think it should be flat out legal, but consequences should be in place for misuse, similar to those of alcohol abuse.

I agree. I don't see why alcohol could be legal and marijuana not.

[Rayquaza]

I only support the medicinal usage of marijuana. The general public refuses to acknowledge that it is in fact a mind altering substance and does pose a danger comparable to that of alcohol to people who use it poorly.

Until people quit hyping about the good and start opening their eyes to the bad, I say keep arresting them for possession.

I absolutely 100% agree with this. Perfect sum up of how I feel on the subject.

Cannabis smells like shit, makes people stupid as fuck and gets people addicted. I only support the medical use of it to help people, not as an illegal drug used outside of hospitals and other practices. Plus, people get into more dangerous drugs through cannabis. Once you go into it it's a slippery slope.

[Harry Smith]

Hahah you are so ignorant and actually Stupid for that matter. Are you really so dense as to think that the danger is similar to alcohol, I feel bad for you.

Many people die from alcohol use. Nobody dies from marijuana use. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that more than 37,000 annual U.S. deaths, including more than 1,400 in Colorado, are attributed to alcohol use alone (i.e. this figure does not include accidental deaths). On the other hand, the CDC does not even have a category for deaths caused by the use of marijuana.

People die from alcohol overdoses. There has never been a fatal marijuana overdose. The official publication of the Scientific Research Society, American Scientist, reported that alcohol is one of the most toxic drugs and using just 10 times what one would use to get the desired effect could lead to death. Marijuana is one of – if not the – least toxic drugs, requiring thousands of times the dose one would use to get the desired effect to lead to death. This “thousands of times” is actually theoretical, since there has never been a case of an individual dying from a marijuana overdose. Meanwhile, according to the CDC, hundreds of alcohol overdose deaths occur the United States each year.

The health-related costs associated with alcohol use far exceed those for marijuana use. Health-related costs for alcohol consumers are eight times greater than those for marijuana consumers, according to an assessment recently published in the British Columbia Mental Health and Addictions Journal. More specifically, the annual cost of alcohol consumption is $165 per user, compared to just $20 per user for marijuana. This should not come as a surprise given the vast amount of research that shows alcohol poses far more – and more significant – health problems than marijuana.

Alcohol use damages the brain. Marijuana use does not. Despite the myths we've heard throughout our lives about marijuana killing brain cells, it turns out that a growing number of studies seem to indicate that marijuana actually has neuroprotective properties. This means that it works to protect brain cells from harm. For example, one recent study found that teens who used marijuana as well as alcohol suffered significantly less damage to the white matter in their brains. Of course, what is beyond question is that alcohol damages brain cells.

Alcohol use is linked to cancer. Marijuana use is not. Alcohol use is associated with a wide variety of cancers, including cancers of the esophagus, stomach, colon, lungs, pancreas, liver and prostate. Marijuana use has not been conclusively associated with any form of cancer. In fact, one study recently contradicted the long-time government claim that marijuana use is associated with head and neck cancers. It found that marijuana use actually reduced the likelihood of head and neck cancers. If you are concerned about marijuana being associated with lung cancer, you may be interested in the results of the largest case-controlled study ever conducted to investigate the respiratory effects of marijuana smoking and cigarette smoking. Released in 2006, the study, conducted by Dr. Donald Tashkin at the University of California at Los Angeles, found that marijuana smoking was not associated with an increased risk of developing lung cancer. Surprisingly, the researchers found that people who smoked marijuana actually had lower incidences of cancer compared to non-users of the drug.

Alcohol is more addictive than marijuana. Addiction researchers have consistently reported that marijuana is far less addictive than alcohol based on a number of factors. In particular, alcohol use can result in significant and potentially fatal physical withdrawal, whereas marijuana has not been found to produce any symptoms of physical withdrawal. Those who use alcohol are also much more likely to develop dependence and build tolerance.
Alcohol use increases the risk of injury to the consumer. Marijuana use does not. Many people who have consumed alcohol or know others who have consumed alcohol would not be surprised to hear that it greatly increases the risk of serious injury. Research published this year in the journal Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research, found that 36 percent of hospitalized assaults and 21 percent of all injuries are attributable to alcohol use by the injured person. Meanwhile, the American Journal of Emergency Medicine reported that lifetime use of marijuana is rarely associated with emergency room visits. According to the British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs, this is because: "Cannabis differs from alcohol … in one major respect. It does not seem to increase risk-taking behavior. This means that cannabis rarely contributes to violence either to others or to oneself, whereas alcohol use is a major factor in deliberate self-harm, domestic accidents and violence." Interestingly enough, some research has even shown that marijuana use has been associated with a decreased risk of injury.

Your the one who is misguided.

The fact that your whole argument is based on the fact that Alcohol is legal so then cannabis should be legal.

You can dig up whatever scientific evidence you want but the bottom line is you have no idea if that stuff above is true. We can sit here all day throwing different reports at each, the bottom line is that if you find one that doesn't support your view your not going to post it are you?

[Synyster Shadows]

If it's used responsibly and strictly for medicinal purposed, I say marijuana is fine and should be legal

[Nellerin]

Your the one who is misguided.

The fact that your whole argument is based on the fact that Alcohol is legal so then cannabis should be legal.

You can dig up whatever scientific evidence you want but the bottom line is you have no idea if that stuff above is true. We can sit here all day throwing different reports at each, the bottom line is that if you find one that doesn't support your view your not going to post it are you?

Unfortunately you are wrong. When THC=CBD in most Cannabis Plants it has been proven repeatedly that no long term health detriments.

But let me guess, you do not even know why THC and CBD must be at the same level do you?

Even though that is at the core of the topic and if you do not know, then you literally should not post about Marijuana at all since you do not know anything about the Drug.

[Gigablue]

As far as I know, it's already legal for medical use here in Canada, though there are some restrictions. I think it should be legalized, or at the very least, decriminalized. It is less dangerous than alcohol or tobacco, both of which are legal. If it were legal, the government could set an age limit similar to the drinking age, and could make tax revenue.

[Jess]

^Basically what Gigablue said. I agree it should be legalized...

[Harry Smith]

Unfortunately you are wrong. When THC=CBD in most Cannabis Plants it has been proven repeatedly that no long term health detriments.

But let me guess, you do not even know why THC and CBD must be at the same level do you?

Even though that is at the core of the topic and if you do not know, then you literally should not post about Marijuana at all since you do not know anything about the Drug.

Stop being an arrogant twat. Your not impressing anyone, in fact your making your self look like a spoiled brat. You have no right to tell people where or where not to post.

THC is the part of drug makes the user feel relaxed, CBD is the part which is widely used in medical use such as breast cancer reduction

[Nellerin]

Stop being an arrogant twat. Your not impressing anyone, in fact your making your self look like a spoiled brat. You have no right to tell people where or where not to post.

THC is the part of drug makes the user feel relaxed, CBD is the part which is widely used in medical use such as breast cancer reduction

Yep and if those two compounds are equal, there are zero long term health issues.

How am I being arrogant? That does not even make sense.

And that is the simplest way of talking about CBD and THC, and you did not state the reason that there are no health issues when the compounds are equal.

[Harry Smith]

Yep and if those two compounds are equal, there are zero long term health issues.

How am I being arrogant? That does not even make sense.

And that is the simplest way of talking about CBD and THC, and you did not state the reason that there are no health issues when the compounds are equal.

How am I being arrogant? You then go onto to lecture me due to fact that I stated it simply. Science isn't of much interest to much to be honest, I have a working knowlege. I'm sure they're things you know that I don't and there are thinks I know that you don't so stop bloody acting like you know everything.

then you literally should not post about Marijuana at all since you do not know anything about the Drug.

Arrogance seeps out of this,alone with backseat modding and acting like you own this thread. Your making arrogant assumptions about people's knowledge and your just acting plain rude.

[Nellerin]

You then go onto to lecture me due to fact that I stated it simply. Science isn't of much interest to much to be honest, I have a working knowlege. I'm sure they're things you know that I don't and there are thinks I know that you don't so stop bloody acting like you know everything.



Arrogance seeps out of this,alone with backseat modding and acting like you own this thread. Your making arrogant assumptions about people's knowledge and your just acting plain rude.

No, I'm simply saying that you cannot criticize a substance that you do not have sufficient knowledge regarding. It wouldn't make sense for you to put something down, if you do not know enough about it.

[Human]

Personally I think that Marijuana shouldn't really be grown commercially because that would make it exploitable by the government who would tax it, but I think people should be allowed to grow their own Marijuana if they want to, and smoke it.
It's not really unhealthy, and probably beneficial if one were not to smoke it but to use different methods.

[Nellerin]

Personally I think that Marijuana shouldn't really be grown commercially because that would make it exploitable by the government who would tax it, but I think people should be allowed to grow their own Marijuana if they want to, and smoke it.
It's not really unhealthy, and probably beneficial if one were not to smoke it but to use different methods.

Commercial Marijuana does not make sense, however Commercial Hemp would be great. And I agree, vaporizing it is far better health wise than smoking it simply because it is guaranteed to get into the body in the best way possible.

Eating is also good as well, but the health benefits go down a bit because CBD is normally not as high or processed in the same way.

[Harry Smith]

No, I'm simply saying that you cannot criticize a substance that you do not have sufficient knowledge regarding. It wouldn't make sense for you to put something down, if you do not know enough about it.

Whether it makes sense or not you still don't have a right to tell people where or where not to post

[Nellerin]

Whether it makes sense or not you still don't have a right to tell people where or where not to post

Fine, I sincerely do take back that part of my post. It's a free country and you can post here if you want to.

However, when you make a statement cautioning someone to not use a substance but using false statements to support that, then you are not benefiting the community and people's understanding of Marijuana and what it actually is and does.

[Jenny jr]

It should remain illegal. It is a drug, drugs do not help people in the long run. This current gereration is so pathetically lazy as it is and if marijuana became legal the world would slowly turn into a terrible place to live

[TheMatrix]

Have you ever had to sit close to somebody smoking pot? I have, and it's not a pleasant experience. It smells like shit. And like cigarettes, that smell tends to linger around you.

Everyone I know who smokes weed has no plans for the future. They do stupid things, like one does when they are losing their mind. It seems they are.

Let's take the Netherlands, for example, as I happen to know a bit about weed there. You probably know by now that weed is legal "for personal use". But this does not mean, legally, that you can smoke where you'd like. No, you must use the "coffeshops"(a misleading name for the unsuspecting foreigner to walk in on a bunch of junkies), otherwise you get a fine of 180 euros(still not enough, though). There are some more details to the law that you can look up if you want. You must also be of age, which I believe is either 18 or 21.
But what do you get? People use it outside anyways, and foreigners sneak in across the border. On the Dutch-German border, you may find a camp of junkies in a train station tunnel, probably German teenagers, who are just there, doing nothing, maybe thinking about their next high. And when the money's gone, they turn to stealing. Very unpleasant to be near.

And that is a trend you will find more often. People can't go without their drugs, lose all their money, and turn to crime. You might say that you'd never do that, but just watch. Your family and friends will eventually find out, and will not want anything to do with you, if they are sane.
You become part of the homeless population, and your life is ruined. Nothing to do but hang around a city all day, maybe being a beggar with some incredulous story on a cardboard sign.

I guess if there's one positive thing that comes out of it, I won't have to worry about you taking my place at a good university.

[britishboy]

No no no! Keep it illegal! This is a joke! It's a drug!