Best shotguns?

[CyrustheGreat]

What do you think is the best shotgun?
I cant decide between the R870 MCS and the Spas-12

[Stronk Serb]

Saiga 12. You need a heck lot of a strong shoulder to use it.

[Professional Russian]

Saiga 12. You need a heck lot of a strong shoulder to use it.

Do you know the problems the saiga 12 has? Feeding problems. Gas system problems. Cycling problems. It is literally not worth shit unless you do alot of work to it. If you do it right though that gun is unstoppable.


Now if you really want a shotgun that will never fuck up you go get yourself a Mossberg 590A1

[DerBear]

Tactical SPAS 12 can't beat a classic.

Although the model 1887 has to be one for the history books.

[Stronk Serb]

Do you know the problems the saiga 12 has? Feeding problems. Gas system problems. Cycling problems. It is literally not worth shit unless you do alot of work to it. If you do it right though that gun is unstoppable.


Now if you really want a shotgun that will never fuck up you go get yourself a Mossberg 590A1

I know the recoil is up the ass, I saw FPS Russia test some shotgun which had 4 ammo tubes, when one runs out, you flip the next one. That one has a lot of potential he said. For other models, SPAS 12 and for double-barreled ones, the TOZ-66.

[Professional Russian]

I know the recoil is up the ass, I saw FPS Russia test some shotgun which had 4 ammo tubes, when one runs out, you flip the next one. That one has a lot of potential he said. For other models, SPAS 12 and for double-barreled ones, the TOZ-66.

The recoil is all most as bad as my 10 gauge. And let me tell you. That ain't nothing for home protection or military use.

[MisterSix]

Well I would vote for the Striker/Protecta for a great shotgun today but in the future, I think the SRM12XX or similar style shotgun.

Full automatic is nice and all but shotgun shells are just too big for it.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

I say a good ole' pump action M500 series shotgun. Pump actions seem to be the most accurate kind in the field of combat (due to a less auto fire)
Full auto can be super inaccurate, though. It would hardly hit at point blank. If it wasn't full auto, I would say the AA-12. But no.

[PinkFloyd]

Saiga 12. You need a heck lot of a strong shoulder to use it.

My neighbor actually has a Saiga. He went hunting with it. That was really awesome.

[Nellerin]

What do you think is the best shotgun?
I cant decide between the R870 MCS and the Spas-12

Why do guns matter?

Oh ya... I remember...there is no reason for them :yes:

[Professional Russian]

Why do guns matter?

Oh ya... I remember...there is no reason for them :yes:

Someone always has to come and ruin the fun... :yes:

[Nellerin]

Someone always has to come and ruin the fun... :yes:

When guns are fun, you need to re-evaluate quite a few things.

[Professional Russian]

When guns are fun, you need to re-evaluate quite a few things.

Not really. I get my food from guns and I get a lot of joy from em. Call me insane I don't care but if used correctly (with a few chemicals mixed in) they're fun as hell.

[Nellerin]

Not really. I get my food from guns and I get a lot of joy from em. Call me insane I don't care but if used correctly (with a few chemicals mixed in) they're fun as hell.

It is just an ignorant way of thinking and unfortunately it is hard to get rid of someones ignorance. Although it has been proven that people that are in love with guns, do have mental disorders and have a violent/uncontrollable nature.

You should probably get that checked out.

[Professional Russian]

It is just an ignorant way of thinking and unfortunately it is hard to get rid of someones ignorance. Although it has been proven that people that are in love with guns, do have mental disorders and have a violent/uncontrollable nature.

You should probably get that checked out.

I'm not.violent. I don't intend on shooting people for no good reason. Now if someone attacks they will be looking down the barrel of my 44 but I'm just gonna whip it out for no reason. I enjoy shooting at targets and long distances. How is there any violence in that?


Wait wait wait. Did you just say I'm mentally fucked up because I enjoy shooting paper targets? Holy fuck. Your the one talking about ignorance here.

[Nellerin]

I'm not.violent. I don't intend on shooting people for no good reason. Now if someone attacks they will be looking down the barrel of my 44 but I'm just gonna whip it out for no reason. I enjoy shooting at targets and long distances. How is there any violence in that?


Wait wait wait. Did you just say I'm mentally fucked up because I enjoy shooting paper targets? Holy fuck. Your the one talking about ignorance here.

The act of shooting a gun (and you are not just shooting paper if you said that you use it to get your food [hunting]) has been proven to be a very strong sign of mental disorders.

Whether you shoot a person or not (you seem to be fine with doing so if someone attacks you) it is still a violent act in its inception (the cause of the action not the action itself.)

No matter what you are shooting, the act of shooting results in the same chemical release in the brain.

[Professional Russian]

The act of shooting a gun (and you are not just shooting paper if you said that you use it to get your food [hunting]) has been proven to be a very strong sign of mental disorders.

Whether you shoot a person or not (you seem to be fine with doing so if someone attacks you) it is still a violent act in its inception (the cause of the action not the action itself.)

No matter what you are shooting, the act of shooting results in the same chemical release in the brain.

Oh so sorry that's right deer are so human like. If I can kill deer I can kill people. I said you'd be looking down the barrel of my 44 I didn't say I'd shoot someone. Its hard to kill a person I know a few hundred people that will tell you that. I don't see the connection between shooting paper targets and shooting humans. They are 2 totally different things. Actually I just had my IEP done a few months ago. All it showed was that I was depressed at the time.

[Nellerin]

Oh so sorry that's right deer are so human like. If I can kill deer I can kill people. I said you'd be looking down the barrel of my 44 I didn't say I'd shoot someone. Its hard to kill a person I know a few hundred people that will tell you that. I don't see the connection between shooting paper targets and shooting humans. They are 2 totally different things. Actually I just had my IEP done a few months ago. All it showed was that I was depressed at the time.

A deer has the emotional connections of a 4-5 year old human, so yes you could kill a human if you can kill a deer. There is no difference between killing a little kid and killing a deer when you realize how intelligent and conscious the deer are.

[Harry Smith]

A deer has the emotional connections of a 4-5 year old human, so yes you could kill a human if you can kill a deer. There is no difference between killing a little kid and killing a deer when you realize how intelligent and conscious the deer are.

That's just psedu science, human nature stops us from killing the child yet allows us to to Kill the deer. By your theory if you killed a dolphin you should be able to kill a human. Your trying to really over-think this and it's just coming across very arrogantly

[Nellerin]

That's just psedu science, human nature stops us from killing the child yet allows us to to Kill the deer. By your theory if you killed a dolphin you should be able to kill a human. Your trying to really over-think this and it's just coming across very arrogantly

That is not true, social stigma's stop us from killing kids. Our "human nature" has not changed in thousands of years and yet a thousand years ago you could easily kill a child just as if you were killing a deer for sacrifice.

There is nothing inherently in us that makes/stops us from doing anything. In reality, neither a human or a deer should die and yet we CAN do both.

[CharlieHorse]

the best shotgun is the one that shoots love, aka the penis.

lol no but seriously, shotguns are pretty nasty weapons, not a big fan of em.

[PinkFloyd]

Someone always has to come and ruin the fun... :yes:

:yes:

[CyrustheGreat]

well, we kinda got off track from the original point. if you want to talk sh*t about what we are talking about, fine. You can make a new thread and do that. We dont talk about shotguns, (or any guns), as if "ok, best gun to blow off someones face? hehe..." no, this is to compare ideas on what is better, like "which gun will jam the least?" or "best range?"
plus, if you feel that killing animals is like killing humans, then we would be prey to everything around us, too busy trying to survive the next day, never discover how to cook food cause we cant hunt, snd we wouldnt be having this conversation right now, or even exist for that matter.

[CyrustheGreat]

well, we kinda got off track from the original point. if you want to talk sh*t about what we are talking about, fine. You can make a new thread and do that. We dont talk about shotguns, (or any guns), as if "ok, best gun to blow off someones face? hehe..." no, this is to compare ideas on what is better, like "which gun will jam the least?" or "best range?"
plus, if you feel that killing animals is like killing humans, then we would be prey to everything around us, too busy trying to survive the next day, never discover how to cook food cause we cant hunt, snd we wouldnt be having this conversation right now, or even exist for that matter.

[Calvin_]

Benelli M4 Super 90
(M1014)

The Benelli M4 Super 90
Type Semi-automatic shotgun
Place of origin Italy
Service history
Wars Iraq War, War in Afghanistan, Syrian civil war
Production history
Designer Benelli Armi SPA
Designed 1998
Manufacturer Benelli Armi SPA
Produced Since 1999
Specifications
Weight 3.82 kg (8.42 lb)
Length 885 mm (34.8 in)
Barrel length 470 mm (18.5 in)
Caliber 12 gauge
Action Gas operated
Effective range 55 yards (50.2 m),[1](164 ft)
Feed system 5+1 (civilian) or 7+1 (Military, LE) internal tube (Using 2.75 shells) magazine
Sights Ghost ring sight, Picatinny rail for sights

I'd have to go with this. ��

[Texas warrior]

Do you know the problems the saiga 12 has? Feeding problems. Gas system problems. Cycling problems. It is literally not worth shit unless you do alot of work to it. If you do it right though that gun is unstoppable.


Now if you really want a shotgun that will never fuck up you go get yourself a Mossberg 590A1

A Mossberg 500 is the gun, my favorite shotgun. but an AA12 is the best, as unbreakable as the 500 and as deadly as the Saiga.

[Professional Russian]

A Mossberg 500 is the gun, my favorite shotgun. but an AA12 is the best, as unbreakable as the 500 and as deadly as the Saiga.

What makes a saiga more deadly than a 500? Absolutely nothing they're both 12 gauge so unless theyre loaded with different shot sizes they're both equally deadly.

[Texas warrior]

What makes a saiga more deadly than a 500? Absolutely nothing they're both 12 gauge so unless theyre loaded with different shot sizes they're both equally deadly.

The rate of fire makes the Saiga more deadly in general, but you are right per shot they are even.

[The Flash]

I love the Remington 870

[zac zohla]

What do you think is the best shotgun?
I cant decide between the R870 MCS and the Spas-12

between the two, the SPAS. it is nylon polymer, not metal like the m870. this means it is lighter an easier to take care of.

however, my favorite is the Benelli Super Black Eagle

[zac zohla]

The rate of fire makes the Saiga more deadly in general, but you are right per shot they are even.

you are a fuckin moron. the point of a shotgun is a one shot, multi-target take-down. a double barrel m-k16 Ranger will do just as well as a saiga with 32 rounds.

This is directed at you "texas Warrior" have some damn self-respect. what the hell is wrong with you and your highly offensive rhyme-pattern.

[EddietheZombie]

Id pick a stevens pump action with a full choke.


That is not true, social stigma's stop us from killing kids. Our "human nature" has not changed in thousands of years and yet a thousand years ago you could easily kill a child just as if you were killing a deer for sacrifice.

There is nothing inherently in us that makes/stops us from doing anything. In reality, neither a human or a deer should die and yet we CAN do both.

Dont make me get into a gun control argument with you. If you dont like guns, why did you post here?

[thatcountrykid]

The remington 870 or the m-1014