Best countries

[Jasperf]

This is just a continuation of BrittishBoy's Best countries post, because I really liked it, and I learnt alot about other countries!
So what do you think are the best and worst countries and what one do you think is the freest. I've coarse everyone is going to be patriotic, so explain your answers (:

Personally I think New Zealand is the best country in the world
-it is officially the most free
-it's über green :p
-nuclear free
-great people
-great weather
^someone should give me something that is wrong with nz :p

And I like many other people, do not like North Korea, not the country but the government

[Harry Smith]

This is just going to turn into nationalistic storm-front debates. There is no best country in the world, every country has good points, every country has bad points

[britishboy]

This is just going to turn into nationalistic storm-front debates. There is no best country in the world, every country has good points, every country has bad points

it depends on what you like! but I agree this will turn in to another nationalist debate and probably a freedom vs communism debate:P but for example I love Australia because of its many beautiful cities! I love America for similar reasons, I love Britain because its my home country but not as much as Australia, I dislike China because of acid rain and North Korea because its a dictatorship! see what I mean?

[TheBigUnit]

I dislike balkin nations ugh serbia, and slovenia is a terrible nation, I dislike iran, poor culture

.....spark set?

[Stronger]

This is just going to turn into nationalistic storm-front debates. There is no best country in the world, every country has good points, every country has bad points

Pretty much this. ^

it depends on what you like! but I agree this will turn in to another nationalist debate and probably a freedom vs communism debate:P but for example I love Australia because of its many beautiful cities! I love America for similar reasons, I love Britain because its my home country but not as much as Australia, I dislike China because of acid rain and North Korea because its a dictatorship! see what I mean?

Unless you are referring to something else, acid rain is everywhere.

I dislike balkin nations ugh serbia, and slovenia is a terrible nation, I dislike iran, poor culture

.....spark set?
What exactly is wrong with the Balkan nations? I would love to visit some of them.

[CharlieHorse]

I like Canada :)
Vancouver BC

[Camazotz]

This is just going to turn into nationalistic storm-front debates. There is no best country in the world, every country has good points, every country has bad points

I agree with this. But I'm going to go with Switzerland and stay neutral on the topic.

[britishboy]

Unless you are referring to something else, acid rain is everywhere.

it is alot stronger in China due to high amounts of sulphur in the air

[Harry Smith]

it is alot stronger in China due to high amounts of sulphur in the air

The same could be said about many industrailing countries such as Brazil or Mexico. We had smog back in the 1800's which caused a lot of people to leave London. Acid rain can also be caused by many natural events such as the nitrogen cycle. It's rather narrow minded to dislike china because they have acid rain

[britishboy]

The same could be said about many industrailing countries such as Brazil or Mexico. We had smog back in the 1800's which caused a lot of people to leave London. Acid rain can also be caused by many natural events such as the nitrogen cycle. It's rather narrow minded to dislike china because they have acid rain

true and I dislike china for many reasons

[Stronger]

true and I dislike china for many reasons

What reasons would that be?

[teen.jpg]

Obviously Canada is the best country. They're so smart they shipped Justin Bieber to the US.

[britishboy]

What reasons would that be?

forced abortions, no human rights, communist and no internet freedom

Obviously Canada is the best country. They're so smart they shipped Justin Bieber to the US.

love it:P

[Jess]

There is no best or worst country.

Though I guess I can say I love the US, Canada, and China. China, only because my parents were born there, all my relatives live there, and it has a great culture. But it does needs to stop restricting human rights, forcing abortions, and remove internet censorship....

[Capto]

North Korea is most glorious and beautiful of all countries. It is the most free and wonderful of both Koreas and will liberate the enslaved Koreans to the south.

...

Seriously though, I think that Japan is one of the best countries.

[Jasperf]

Unless you are referring to something else, acid rain is everywhere

No, there had never been acid rain recorded in New Zealand.

[TheBigUnit]

What exactly is wrong with the Balkan nations? I would love to visit some of them.

Nothing its just that our dear friends went crazy in the last thread about this

[Stronger]

So just because of one/two people you dislike an entire nation and find another one terrible.

[Walter Powers]

"It's officially the most free"?


1) I'm pretty sure North Korea is also "officially" the most free. That doesn't mean it is.

2) Nuclear free means you can't defend yourself in case another country attacks you. It threatens your sovereignty.

3) I'm sure America has at least 100 times the amount of trees you have. We're certainly greener.

And, as much as I hate to break it to you, but America is the greatest country. I know I sound kinda of it, but the facts don't lie. We dominate economically, technologically, culturally, and militarily. And for the most part, our possession of this power has made the world a better place. Check out this Youtube video on American exceptionalism:

http://youtu.be/nuv0K8H8ILM

[Capto]

Culturally? Nowadays you can call us anything close to cultural? We're less cultural than Swaziland is.

EDIT: We're green? :O

[britishboy]

"It's officially the most free"?


1) I'm pretty sure North Korea is also "officially" the most free. That doesn't mean it is.

2) Nuclear free means you can't defend yourself in case another country attacks you. It threatens your sovereignty.

3) I'm sure America has at least 100 times the amount of trees you have. We're certainly greener.

And, as much as I hate to break it to you, but America is the greatest country. I know I sound kinda of it, but the facts don't lie. We dominate economically, technologically, culturally, and militarily. And for the most part, our possession of this power has made the world a better place. Check out this Youtube video on American exceptionalism:

http://youtu.be/nuv0K8H8ILM

cough britian made america cough :P just joking;)

[Capto]

3) I'm sure America has at least 100 times the amount of trees you have. We're certainly greener.


Travel south and see how green we are.

[Walter Powers]

Culturally? Nowadays you can call us anything close to cultural? We're less cultural than Swaziland is.

EDIT: We're green? :O

You don't think we have a culture? Every country has at least one culture in it, just like ever country has at least one language.

Examples of characteristics of our culture are things like department stores, relative tolerance for difference, blue jeans, and McDonalds.

And we're plenty green. Look at America from Google Earth!

[Capto]

You don't think we have a culture? Every country has at least one culture in it, just like ever country has at least one language.

Examples of characteristics of our culture are things like department stores, relative tolerance for difference, blue jeans, and McDonalds.

And we're plenty green. Look at America from Google Earth!

Come visit me. We can breathe in the air and I can get you asthma.

I didn't say that we don't have a culture. I implied that it wasn't very interesting of a culture.

EDIT: Except for the godland Louisiana. Louisiana is awesome.

[Harry Smith]

You don't think we have a culture? Every country has at least one culture in it, just like ever country has at least one language.

Examples of characteristics of our culture are things like department stores, relative tolerance for difference, blue jeans, and McDonalds.

And we're plenty green. Look at America from Google Earth!

As my uncle always says, America is the drab from Europe. Look at the mass immigration in the 1900's, it actually helped America develop a culture, a rather unique one as well

[Capto]

As my uncle always says, America is the drab from Europe. Look at the mass immigration in the 1900's, it actually helped America develop a culture, a rather unique one as well

America is Europe's leftovers, with a little bit of Asia and Africa for seasoning, especially in the West Coast and Deep South respectively.

[Walter Powers]

Come visit me. We can breathe in the air and I can get you asthma.

I didn't say that we don't have a culture. I implied that it wasn't very interesting of a culture.

EDIT: Except for the godland Louisiana. Louisiana is awesome.

Whatever.

The nice thing about America is that there is plenty of space to move to!

[britishboy]

Whatever.

The nice thing about America is that there is plenty of space to move to!

more space in Russia;)

[Jasperf]

There is no best or worst country.

Though I guess I can say I love the US, Canada, and China. China, only because my parents were born there, all my relatives live there, and it has a great culture. But it does needs to stop restricting human rights, forcing abortions, and remove internet censorship....

"It's officially the most free"?


1) I'm pretty sure North Korea is also "officially" the most free. That doesn't mean it is.

2) Nuclear free means you can't defend yourself in case another country attacks you. It threatens your sovereignty.

3) I'm sure America has at least 100 times the amount of trees you have. We're certainly greener.

And, as much as I hate to break it to you, but America is the greatest country. I know I sound kinda of it, but the facts don't lie. We dominate economically, technologically, culturally, and militarily. And for the most part, our possession of this power has made the world a better place. Check out this Youtube video on American exceptionalism:

http://youtu.be/nuv0K8H8ILM


Okay well on your point 1) New Zealand has been voted the most free country, infact even American newspapers published the story.
Point one does not stand

2) you think that having Neuclear weapons make your country safe?! No they only exclamate the theory of M.A.D. New Zealand doesn't need Neuclear weapons, If someone made was on us they would never be able to take the country, unless they made a line of troupes and Walked the length of the country... The total population would go bush, and in New Zealand only like 1 percent of the land is industrialised. So how would Neuclear weapons help?

Oh and also, New zealand doesn't have any enemy nations...
Point 2 does not stand

Point 3)
Well I'm not sure you understand the concept of 'green'. The fact that America had more trees, does not make it more 'green', because if its millions of cars, Neuclear power, and huge consumption. It is less 'green' then New Zealand.

At no point did I ask you what country is Greatest, I asked you what country was best. There is a difference. I would also question Americas true culture as the Americans did almost wipe out the native culture, where as in nz, the native culture still stands.
P.s I fail to understand how America is the greates country, when it already owed over a trillion dollars to china, and are not succeeding in paying it back as they are earning a negative amount.


And we're plenty green. Look at America from Google Earth!
That's not what people mean by 'Green'

[Sugaree]

And we're plenty green. Look at America from Google Earth!

I don't know if I should laugh at you or just feel sorry.

[Walter Powers]

Okay well on your point 1) New Zealand has been voted the most free country, infact even American newspapers published the story.
Point one does not stand

2) you think that having Neuclear weapons make your country safe?! No they only exclamate the theory of M.A.D. New Zealand doesn't need Neuclear weapons, If someone made was on us they would never be able to take the country, unless they made a line of troupes and Walked the length of the country... The total population would go bush, and in New Zealand only like 1 percent of the land is industrialised. So how would Neuclear weapons help?

Oh and also, New zealand doesn't have any enemy nations...
Point 2 does not stand

Point 3)
Well I'm not sure you understand the concept of 'green'. The fact that America had more trees, does not make it more 'green', because if its millions of cars, Neuclear power, and huge consumption. It is less 'green' then New Zealand.

At no point did I ask you what country is Greatest, I asked you what country was best. There is a difference. I would also question Americas true culture as the Americans did almost wipe out the native culture, where as in nz, the native culture still stands.
P.s I fail to understand how America is the greates country, when it already owed over a trillion dollars to china, and are not succeeding in paying it back as they are earning a negative amount.


That's not what people mean by 'Green'

1) Who voted New Zealand the most free country? I'd like to see this data.
2) New Zealand doesn't have any enemies? Give me a break. Aren't you like best friends with Britian? If your part of the commonwealth, Britians enemies probably also hate you.
3) Whatever, I'm not going to argue how all the green energy subsides we have make us so great.
4) Even if we may owe $1 Trillion to China, our GDP is three times their's with about a quarter of the people, and our per capita GDP is among the highest of developed nations, once was the highest. And like I said, we dominate economically, militarily, culturally, and scientifically, and our net impact on the world with this power is very positive. For example, it is projected about a billion people are alive today because of Norman Borlaug, and American scientist that invented miracle crops.

[Jasperf]

1) Who voted New Zealand the most free country? I'd like to see this data.
2) New Zealand doesn't have any enemies? Give me a break. Aren't you like best friends with Britian? If your part of the commonwealth, Britians enemies probably also hate you.
3) Whatever, I'm not going to argue how all the green energy subsides we have make us so great.
4) Even if we may owe $1 Trillion to China, our GDP is three times their's with about a quarter of the people, and our per capita GDP is among the highest of developed nations, once was the highest. And like I said, we dominate economically, militarily, culturally, and scientifically, and our net impact on the world with this power is very positive. For example, it is projected about a billion people are alive today because of Norman Borlaug, and American scientist that invented miracle crops.

well the fact that NZ is in the commonwealth doesn't mean that other nations hate us. We have no official enemies.
How about you type 'Freest country' and see what pages pop up.

okay, well as i mentioned earlier, just because america has a large army does not make it the best country. Scientifically new zealand too has had great break throughs, and for a tiny country it sure has made its mark.

Oh and if you would stop and think about what you wrote in number 4...
What does it matter if you have more money then a country, when your country is loosing money, where as theirs is gaining... and if america has a higher gdp then why does it need to lend money from china?

Culturally i still dont believe America has a strong connecting, nationwide culture.



I don't know if I should laugh at you or just feel sorry.

haha i truly thought he was joking hahahaha

[Jean Poutine]

No country is the "best". They are pretty much all the "worst".

Arise, ye Earthling consciousness...

Culturally i still dont believe America has a strong connecting, nationwide culture.

Nobody sane can believe America doesn't have a culture. Worldwide icons around the world - Coke, Pepsi, Apple, Microsoft - all American. Hollywood blockbusters dominate the cinema screens of the world. Even though young, America has a rich and storied history. America has plenty of cultural icons and stories to rally the whole nation to. Where have you been, man, under a rock?

[Jasperf]

No country is the "best". They are pretty much all the "worst".

Arise, ye Earthling consciousness...



Nobody sane can believe America doesn't have a culture. Worldwide icons around the world - Coke, Pepsi, Apple, Microsoft - all American. Hollywood blockbusters dominate the cinema screens of the world. Even though young, America has a rich and storied history. America has plenty of cultural icons and stories to rally the whole nation to. Where have you been, man, under a rock?

The fact that you use produce of America, as your nations culture... That's not really a culture. Americas culture was the American Indians, but you a stuffed that up on your killing spree of them!
Where are Americas ancient songs, when are Americas ancient pieces of art, where are Americas ancient creation stories, or ancient stories in general.
Where are they?
Dead with the Indians.

[Capto]

The fact that you use produce of America, as your nations culture... That's not really a culture. Americas culture was the American Indians, but you a stuffed that up on your killing spree of them!
Where are Americas ancient songs, when are Americas ancient pieces of art, where are Americas ancient creation stories, or ancient stories in general.
Where are they?
Dead with the Indians.

That's North America's culture. The US' culture, on the other hand, is different.

[Jasperf]

That's North America's culture. The US' culture, on the other hand, is different.

What's different about it? That it doesn't have an ancient culture, woven into the land and people

[Capto]

What's different about it? That it doesn't have an ancient culture, woven into the land and people

The historical culture of pre-Columbian North America versus the culture of the United States of America. I'd say that they're different.

[Jasperf]

The historical culture of pre-Columbian North America versus the culture of the United States of America. I'd say that they're different.

But the thing is that they shouldn't be, the should be woven together

When you enhabbit somewhere you don't just lockout the culture, you blend it with yours.

[Capto]

But the thing is that they shouldn't be, the should be woven together

Why?

[Jasperf]

Why?

Because now America is left without ancient traditions, songs, Art ect

[Capto]

Because now America is left without ancient traditions, songs, Art ect

Off-topic, but we're not lacking it at all.

Regardless, I'm going to put forwards Denmark as one of the 'best countries'.

[Jasperf]

Regardless, I'm going to put forwards Denmark as one of the 'best countries'.

Reasons?

[Jean Poutine]

The fact that you use produce of America, as your nations culture... That's not really a culture. Americas culture was the American Indians, but you a stuffed that up on your killing spree of them!
Where are Americas ancient songs, when are Americas ancient pieces of art, where are Americas ancient creation stories, or ancient stories in general.
Where are they?
Dead with the Indians.

Since when must culture be ancient?

[Jasperf]

Since when must culture be ancient?

I never said that cultures must be ancient, I simply state that cultures that have existed over hunderds of years give more character to a country then young culture. All country's have a young vaulter like America, but not all country's have an aged culture, well actually, most countries do excepting a few... Including America

[Capto]

I never said that cultures must be ancient, I simply state that cultures that have existed over hunderds of years give more character to a country then young culture. All country's have a young vaulter like America, but not all country's have an aged culture, well actually, most countries do excepting a few... Including America

The United States of America, as well as most of North America, maintains a great portion of its heritage. I don't know where you're getting the idea that we wiped all the Native Americans off the face off the earth with nothing remaining.

[Walter Powers]

The United States of America, as well as most of North America, maintains a great portion of its heritage. I don't know where you're getting the idea that we wiped all the Native Americans off the face off the earth with nothing remaining.

You are right about this. I don't think I've ever been in a history museum in all of the Great Northwest or Alaska that hasn't had plenty of Native American exhibits.

And in Alaska especially, the prescense of Afabaskan and Eskimo culture is very high just walking through downtown Fairbanks.

[foxtrot.12]

i think U.S. is freest but thats could be wrong cuz i dont have much experience but i also love my country no matter what it does because there is diversity, different climates, opportunity for growth, and just adventures. i love italy and south africa though too because they have fantastic cultures too much too tell in fact unless someone specifically asks! worst is probably afghanistan pakistan or libya because their gov'ts are crazy

[Jasperf]

The United States of America, as well as most of North America, maintains a great portion of its heritage. I don't know where you're getting the idea that we wiped all the Native Americans off the face off the earth with nothing remaining.

So are you trying to tell me that the whole country apreciates the culture and traditions? Such as in china where the ancient traditions are still verry rooted or in New Zealand where when you enter the country you are greeted with a traditional powhiri and all signs are written in The native language as well as English even though the native language is pretty much extinct.
Or how in India or brazil they have their giant anciant traditional festivals.
It is cultures like this that tie countries together.


i think U.S. is freest

It's actually ranked 7th

[Walter Powers]

So are you trying to tell me that the whole country apreciates the culture and traditions? Such as in china where the ancient traditions are still verry rooted or in New Zealand where when you enter the country you are greeted with a traditional powhiri and all signs are written in The native language as well as English even though the native language is pretty much extinct.
Or how in India or brazil they have their giant anciant traditional festivals.
It is cultures like this that tie countries together.




It's actually ranked 7th

But that's per capita.

[Jasperf]

But that's per capita.

What?!

[Walter Powers]

What?!

The point is it's a lot harder for a larger jurisdiction, such as the US, to outstand in something then a smaller one.

[Jasperf]

The point is it's a lot harder for a larger jurisdiction, such as the US, to outstand in something then a smaller one.

Indians population?
Brazil's population?
Chinas population?

[Stronk Serb]

I dislike balkin nations ugh serbia, and slovenia is a terrible nation, I dislike iran, poor culture

.....spark set?

Iran has a lot of culture. It was the birthplace of the Persian empire. Slovenia is not a Balkan nation. Why do you dislike those nations?

[Bougainvillea]

"It's officially the most free"?


1) I'm pretty sure North Korea is also "officially" the most free. That doesn't mean it is.

2) Nuclear free means you can't defend yourself in case another country attacks you. It threatens your sovereignty.

3) I'm sure America has at least 100 times the amount of trees you have. We're certainly greener.

And, as much as I hate to break it to you, but America is the greatest country. I know I sound kinda of it, but the facts don't lie. We dominate economically, technologically, culturally, and militarily. And for the most part, our possession of this power has made the world a better place. Check out this Youtube video on American exceptionalism:

http://youtu.be/nuv0K8H8ILM

America isn't the greatest country.

[Walter Powers]

America isn't the greatest country.

We have the strongest military, the strongest economy, have invented most of the great modern inventions, and we dominate the cultural scene...what makes you say that we aren't? And if not us, who is?

[Walter Powers]

Indians population?
Brazil's population?
Chinas population?

What about them? Exactly, our per capita figures are much better then all the large nations.

[britishboy]

We have the strongest military, the strongest economy, have invented most of the great modern inventions, and we dominate the cultural scene...what makes you say that we aren't? And if not us, who is?

america is great but it depends what you like, I prefer australia because its beauty, strong econmy and the people are so happy but if you want a superpower, no one can say america is not the best:p

[Southside]

"It's officially the most free"?


1) I'm pretty sure North Korea is also "officially" the most free. That doesn't mean it is.

2) Nuclear free means you can't defend yourself in case another country attacks you. It threatens your sovereignty.

3) I'm sure America has at least 100 times the amount of trees you have. We're certainly greener.

And, as much as I hate to break it to you, but America is the greatest country. I know I sound kinda of it, but the facts don't lie. We dominate economically, technologically, culturally, and militarily. And for the most part, our possession of this power has made the world a better place. Check out this Youtube video on American exceptionalism:

http://youtu.be/nuv0K8H8ILM

Bill Whittle says we only react to aggression in the video, Iraq in 2003 was aggression?

He actually thinks Americans created the super sonic jet? I believe the Nazi's did..

[PinkFloyd]

I don't care ho fucked up the US is. Ut's still my home and I will always like it.

If I had to choose my favorite country other than my own, then it would be Italy. When I was there, I saw many famous things. Oh did I mention that they have police cars like THIS?
http://photo.netcarshow.com/Lamborghini-Gallardo_Police_Car_2004_photo_03.jpg

[Cygnus]

We have the strongest military, the strongest economy, have invented most of the great modern inventions, and we dominate the cultural scene...what makes you say that we aren't? And if not us, who is?

Strongest economy? Ha! The economy is lingering and awaiting its fate at the hands of those who are compulsively making it fall. Strongest military? Why would that make it the greatest nation? All the military does is wage wars and occupy countries.

The US is missing something called CULTURE, gringos have absolutely no culture, nor do they have international view. There is no such thing as a best nation, since you, as a close-minded corroded gringo will always see gringoland as the best country ever, I will see differently just like the other 95% of the world will.

[mUS01]

I think the best country in the world is USA !!

I love USA !! (:

[Capto]

The US is missing something called CULTURE, gringos have absolutely no culture, nor do they have international view. There is no such thing as a best nation, since you, as a close-minded corroded gringo will always see gringoland as the best country ever, I will see differently just like the other 95% of the world will.

We do have a ridiculously weak culture, but I will disagree with you on your statement that US citizens lack any sort of international view. We have one, it's just a "US #1" type of weltanshauung.

[Cygnus]

We do have a ridiculously weak culture, but I will disagree with you on your statement that US citizens lack any sort of international view. We have one, it's just a "US #1" type of weltanshauung.

And why do you say US #1? Because it is the only country most people from the US have been in.

[Capto]

And why do you say US #1? Because it is the only country most people from the US have been in.

You have no idea what I'm saying, do you? Of course not. That's not the point of our propaganda-based former isolationist weltanshauung at all. Certainly not. It's just an rather stupid idea to keep us here and to keep immigrants like my parents and all my neighbours coming in to the US.

[TheBigUnit]

Iran has a lot of culture. It was the birthplace of the Persian empire. Slovenia is not a Balkan nation. Why do you dislike those nations?

I was joking because you all go gun-ho for these nations usually, I know all this what you said

[Jasperf]

What about them? Exactly, our per capita figures are much better then all the large nations.

What are you talking about, how is culture per capita

I think the best country in the world is USA !!

I love USA !! (:

Your reasoning?


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[mUS01]

Your reasoning?

I can not give you reason because I love USA when I was like 8-9
and I don't live in USA even I wish .

but you know what? new zealand is great too (;

[Jasperf]

I can not give you reason because I love USA when I was like 8-9
and I don't live in USA even I wish .

but you know what? new zealand is great too (;

Oh haha okay (:

[Bougainvillea]

We have the strongest military, the strongest economy, have invented most of the great modern inventions, and we dominate the cultural scene...what makes you say that we aren't? And if not us, who is?

No one. But you're too "patriotic" and "logical" to think otherwise.

You think those actually matter? It's what is happening inside this country is what brings it down, so who gives a fuck what we look like with our "badass" military. That doesn't make us great, it makes us assholes.

There is no evidence to support that America is the greatest country in the world, or for any other country for that matter. We’re 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, Number 4 in labor force and Number 4 in exports.We lead the world in only three categories: Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies.

Obesity has been declared to be a "disease", and there is a huge minority in this country that flat out believes that global warming is a myth, while they believe in some half-assed fairy tale about some old fucker on a boat.


So don't fucking tell me that America is the greatest country in the fucking world, because I'm telling you right now that if the USA were a person, the last thing you could expect is for the sun to shine out its ass.

That abhorrent mentality is nothing but pure ignorance, and I despise it.

[britishboy]

No one. But you're too "patriotic" and "logical" to think otherwise.

You think those actually matter? It's what is happening inside this country is what brings it down, so who gives a fuck what we look like with our "badass" military. That doesn't make us great, it makes us assholes.

There is no evidence to support that America is the greatest country in the world, or for any other country for that matter. We’re 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, Number 4 in labor force and Number 4 in exports.We lead the world in only three categories: Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies.

Obesity has been declared to be a "disease", and there is a huge minority in this country that flat out believes that global warming is a myth, while they believe in some half-assed fairy tale about some old fucker on a boat.


So don't fucking tell me that America is the greatest country in the fucking world, because I'm telling you right now that if the USA were a person, the last thing you could expect is for the sun to shine out its ass.

That abhorrent mentality is nothing but pure ignorance, and I despise it.

well said:) I think best countries are always only opinions

[Stronk Serb]

I was joking because you all go gun-ho for these nations usually, I know all this what you said

Anyone who likes his homeland a bit is like 'why did he say that?' when someone says that his is bad. I am not a kind of guy who will insult you for saying that Serbia has some major flaws, since it does, but I find irrational disliking immature (ie. I hate X just because he is there). But in all honesty, there is no best or greatest countries, all of them are flawed.

[Jean Poutine]

I never said that cultures must be ancient, I simply state that cultures that have existed over hunderds of years give more character to a country then young culture. All country's have a young vaulter like America, but not all country's have an aged culture, well actually, most countries do excepting a few... Including America

You said America had no culture then cited multiple nouns with the epithet "ancient" attached to them. If this isn't claiming one culture is superior to another simply by virtue of it being older, I don't know what is.

What is certain is that American culture is unprecedented in scale, complexity and diffusion : claiming anything else is disregarding facts.

[Jasperf]

You said America had no culture then cited multiple nouns with the epithet "ancient" attached to them. If this isn't claiming one culture is superior to another simply by virtue of it being older, I don't know what is.

What is certain is that American culture is unprecedented in scale, complexity and diffusion : claiming anything else is disregarding facts.

but the thing is that the sort of culture that america has, all develped countries have.

[Capto]

but the thing is that the sort of culture that america has, all develped countries have.

That's not the point of culture.

[Jasperf]

That's not the point of culture.
Then what is it.

[Jess]

No one. But you're too "patriotic" and "logical" to think otherwise.

You think those actually matter? It's what is happening inside this country is what brings it down, so who gives a fuck what we look like with our "badass" military. That doesn't make us great, it makes us assholes.

There is no evidence to support that America is the greatest country in the world, or for any other country for that matter. We’re 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, Number 4 in labor force and Number 4 in exports.We lead the world in only three categories: Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies.

Obesity has been declared to be a "disease", and there is a huge minority in this country that flat out believes that global warming is a myth, while they believe in some half-assed fairy tale about some old fucker on a boat.


So don't fucking tell me that America is the greatest country in the fucking world, because I'm telling you right now that if the USA were a person, the last thing you could expect is for the sun to shine out its ass.

That abhorrent mentality is nothing but pure ignorance, and I despise it.

Great post. The US is a great country (in some ways), but not the greatest. It has many faults.

[Jevon]

I am quite a fan of Australia and New Zealand because they both seem like beautiful places to visit and costa rica because that is where I am going next month so I hope it is a good country heard they have bland food though but ohh well lol

[Walter Powers]

No one. But you're too "patriotic" and "logical" to think otherwise.

You think those actually matter? It's what is happening inside this country is what brings it down, so who gives a fuck what we look like with our "badass" military. That doesn't make us great, it makes us assholes.

There is no evidence to support that America is the greatest country in the world, or for any other country for that matter. We’re 7th in literacy, 27th in math, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, Number 4 in labor force and Number 4 in exports.We lead the world in only three categories: Number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real, and defense spending where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies.

Obesity has been declared to be a "disease", and there is a huge minority in this country that flat out believes that global warming is a myth, while they believe in some half-assed fairy tale about some old fucker on a boat.


So don't fucking tell me that America is the greatest country in the fucking world, because I'm telling you right now that if the USA were a person, the last thing you could expect is for the sun to shine out its ass.

That abhorrent mentality is nothing but pure ignorance, and I despise it.


Let me ask you this: How did this supposed nation of idiots happen to invent automatic transmission, the artificial pacemaker, the cash register, credit cards, the floppy disk, GPS (global positioning system), industrial robotics, denim jeans, the Internet, the laser, the microwave oven , nylon , the particle accelerator , the personal computer, the taser, birth control, television, the videotape, zippers, the cotton gin, the atomic bomb, carbon dating, the telephone, the light bulb, air conditioning , the barcode, the Solar cell, assembly line production, fast food, the air bag, and the microwave oven, to name a few? Can you produce a country that can even rival half of these inventions?

These our countries test results may look daunting. But that's because they "track" their students; the test results we see are only their top tier. And these country's are just emerging: The US historically has been number one in educating the masses.

As for the global warming thing, that's an irrelevant controversial political issue that doesn't at all reflect on a nations intelligence. In fact, a report just came out a couple months ago that said the Earth had cooled down, I read in the Wall Street Journal. So I don't read to much into it and realize we don't really no for sure either way, and figure that regardless of what's happening, we can't control mother nature. The US isn't that powerful!

In short, I guess per capita we aren't the best, but among the large nations we totally are. You think we score better then China, Brazil, India, Mexico, Indonesia or Russia in any of those stats you named?

[Jasperf]

Let me ask you this: How did this supposed nation of idiots happen to invent automatic transmission, the artificial pacemaker, the cash register, credit cards, the floppy disk, GPS (global positioning system), industrial robotics, denim jeans, the Internet, the laser, the microwave oven , nylon , the particle accelerator , the personal computer, the taser, birth control, television, the videotape, zippers, the cotton gin, the atomic bomb, carbon dating, the telephone, the light bulb, air conditioning , the barcode, the Solar cell, assembly line production, fast food, the air bag, and the microwave oven, to name a few? Can you produce a country that can even rival half of these inventions?

These our countries test results may look daunting. But that's because they "track" their students; the test results we see are only their top tier. And these country's are just emerging: The US historically has been number one in educating the masses.

As for the global warming thing, that's an irrelevant controversial political issue that doesn't at all reflect on a nations intelligence. In fact, a report just came out a couple months ago that said the Earth had cooled down, I read in the Wall Street Journal. So I don't read to much into it and realize we don't really no for sure either way, and figure that regardless of what's happening, we can't control mother nature. The US isn't that powerful!

In short, I guess per capita we aren't the best, but among the large nations we totally are. You think we score better then China, Brazil, India, Mexico, Indonesia or Russia in any of those stats you named?


Well for your inventions, every country has had amazing inventors. And who actually mass produces these things that you have said?
+I wouldn't be bragging about the fast food one, there is a reason why America is the mode obese country in the world...

Ok so we can't countrol nature, but yes, in my opinion, any country that is even slightly more Eco friendly than America is a better country. Global warming is a real problem and America is doing jack shit about it.

Ok and on your earlier post, when you brag of the USA army, please tell me what use such a large army is? For if there was another world war, it wouldn't matter about the army size, nor the fact that America nukes can destroy the world however many times over... Once a war starts, some maniac will fire a Nuke... And then like dominoes all countries will fall, no matter how big Americas army is

[Achillea]

Ahhh, countries! :) Well, In my opinion the best? Well, tbh I like most European Countries, mainly because they are all have unique cultures and languages...and the scenery is amazing...and they don't really have INSANE governments.
I have always thought that Japan is amazing and unique as well but I don't know much about their government system but I guess they aren't really at war right now so that's good. They have a really good healthcare system, culture, education and landscape!
I would LOVE to live in the pacific so that's another plus.
Previously, I thought that the USA would be a lovely place to live, especially New York but having visited the country recently I doubt I ever want to live in such a country. They have poor healthcare, a lot of poor people and okay education. They don't have an interesting history, they have ZERO culture and their government is a joke. All I saw, everywhere I went was Starbucks. It really is a great symbol of America. Maybe if the states dissolved into mini countries with their own individual characteristics it would be better?:) Also I dislike the way they treat other countries as a possible threat the whole time (Er.. SPYING ON EUROPE?!!) and they get involved with things they should just leave alone (Middle East??). The people there (Not to be rude and I know that this is just a generalisation) are terrified of other cultures and views and because of this they are stubborn and can't accept criticism or change. They can't even trust their own people (Spying, again...) They have GUNS. Enough said. So yeah, don't think I will be moving there any time soon!:)
So yeah, I think I have to say that Ireland is the best, ya know, cause of their ECONOMIC DISASTER and the whole "Even though you informed us that the USA is spying on us and in doing so put yourself in danger, we aren't giving you asylum here. Sorry, Snowden". Joking, I am very patriotic and I do love my country very much!<3

[Capto]

Nippon! Nippon! Nippon! Nippon! :P

Let me ask you this: How did this supposed nation of idiots happen to invent automatic transmission, the artificial pacemaker, the cash register, credit cards, the floppy disk, GPS (global positioning system), industrial robotics, denim jeans, the Internet, the laser, the microwave oven , nylon , the particle accelerator , the personal computer, the taser, birth control, television, the videotape, zippers, the cotton gin, the atomic bomb, carbon dating, the telephone, the light bulb, air conditioning , the barcode, the Solar cell, assembly line production, fast food, the air bag, and the microwave oven, to name a few? Can you produce a country that can even rival half of these inventions?


'American' inventions aren't a good way to judge the innovation and drive of our country due to the fact that several 'American' inventors and innovators were actually immigrants from the Old World: Zworykin [debatable], Tesla, Fermi, Bethe, Segrè, Sundbäck, Bell, Strauß, Einstein, and several more that I can't think of off the top of my head.

The artificial pacemaker was developed independently and separately by Australians, Canadians, Americans, Swedes, and Colombians. The Internet, similarly, was a collaborative effort that cannot be attributed to one nations' doings. Microwave oven was an accident, and microwaves themselves were discovered through massive amounts of international research. Tihanyi, Takayanagi, and Theramin all contributed to the idea of television prior to Farnsworth. Birth control made me laugh, you need to be more specific. Scottish economist Adam Smith [very, very, very important; if you haven't heard of him, I'd be astounded] was the first to theorize about the division of labor in the form of separating workers to specialized labor, which would improve production, and which was the first mention of any sort of 'assembly line'. Linderer and Kobori both developed airbags independently: the former's was inefficient and dangerous, but the latter's was not.

Oh, and there are some useful articles by David Drew to counter the "OMG Murrican Education is teh best" idea.

Also, yo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:British_inventions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:English_inventions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Scottish_inventions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Welsh_inventions

Invention is a meritocratic society, in essence. Because of the attractiveness [for varied reasons] of the US to European nations at the time, we attracted a metric shit-ton of people, some of which were innovators and inventors.

They don't have an interesting history, they have ZERO culture and their government is a joke...Maybe if the states dissolved into mini countries with their own individual characteristics it would be better?:)

lolwut.

Then what is it.

Note that culture is also developed by a meritocratic-esque society. American syncretic-esque literature, art, cuisine, and to a lesser extent music are all unique in their own right and have all been developed by merited peoples from the US and abroad. These factors all combine to synthesize the unaptly named, but unique, 'American culture', which is a mixture of European, African, and Asian cultures all piled and blobbed into one big mess. American culture is very unique in its syncretic and diverse nature, as whatever state you're in, you'll see a different blend and mix of cultures that all sum up to be American.

[whatsgoinon53]

I think Australia and USA are the two best countries but America is a bad one (for me) too.

Australia is AMAZING! Our animals are original, out native people are original and their way of life is astonishing. Our man-made buildings and structures are amazing. Our beaches are amazing. Out Great Barrier Reef, our theme parks, our zoo's our oceans, EVERYTHING! I just don't like that most of it isn't recognised by the rest of the world.

America is a great country too but I don't like the law they have on guns there. They are legal. In Australia they're not legal and the worst things we get are drunk teenagers driving bad and brawling. In America, you have shootings. Like what happened in Connecticut late last year.

I also don't appreciate the USA taking credit for our inventions and our people. Russel Crowe is NOT AMERICAN! He was born in New Zealand, raised in Australia. Hugh Jackman (Wolverine) is not American, he's Australian. Geoffrey Rush is Australian. Chris and Liam Hemsworth are Australian. Lamington's are Australian. So are pavlovas! An Australian invented the Lawn Mover!

So that's what I think...

[Capto]

So are pavlovas!

Pavlova is delicious.

Though is it Kiwi or Aussie?

Either way, Australia is AWESOME.

[Walter Powers]

Well for your inventions, every country has had amazing inventors. And who actually mass produces these things that you have said?
+I wouldn't be bragging about the fast food one, there is a reason why America is the mode obese country in the world...

Ok so we can't countrol nature, but yes, in my opinion, any country that is even slightly more Eco friendly than America is a better country. Global warming is a real problem and America is doing jack shit about it.

Ok and on your earlier post, when you brag of the USA army, please tell me what use such a large army is? For if there was another world war, it wouldn't matter about the army size, nor the fact that America nukes can destroy the world however many times over... Once a war starts, some maniac will fire a Nuke... And then like dominoes all countries will fall, no matter how big Americas army is

"Every country has amazing inventors." First, your wrong. What great inventors live in North Korea? Second, no country even comes close to rivaling the US in terms of number and importance of the inventions our people produce. As for who makes them, true, China makes a lot of what we invented, but they are still American companies with American Headquarters. So we get to keep the vast majority of the money, as our GDP proves.

And regarding global warming, if acknowledge we can't control Mother Nature, why the hell are you praising people who are wasting money trying to stop climate change? They are trying to control nature!


Ahhh, countries! :) Well, In my opinion the best? Well, tbh I like most European Countries, mainly because they are all have unique cultures and languages...and the scenery is amazing...and they don't really have INSANE governments.
I have always thought that Japan is amazing and unique as well but I don't know much about their government system but I guess they aren't really at war right now so that's good. They have a really good healthcare system, culture, education and landscape!
I would LOVE to live in the pacific so that's another plus.
Previously, I thought that the USA would be a lovely place to live, especially New York but having visited the country recently I doubt I ever want to live in such a country. They have poor healthcare, a lot of poor people and okay education. They don't have an interesting history, they have ZERO culture and their government is a joke. All I saw, everywhere I went was Starbucks. It really is a great symbol of America. Maybe if the states dissolved into mini countries with their own individual characteristics it would be better?:) Also I dislike the way they treat other countries as a possible threat the whole time (Er.. SPYING ON EUROPE?!!) and they get involved with things they should just leave alone (Middle East??). The people there (Not to be rude and I know that this is just a generalisation) are terrified of other cultures and views and because of this they are stubborn and can't accept criticism or change. They can't even trust their own people (Spying, again...) They have GUNS. Enough said. So yeah, don't think I will be moving there any time soon!:)
So yeah, I think I have to say that Ireland is the best, ya know, cause of their ECONOMIC DISASTER and the whole "Even though you informed us that the USA is spying on us and in doing so put yourself in danger, we aren't giving you asylum here. Sorry, Snowden". Joking, I am very patriotic and I do love my country very much!<3

We don't have an interesting history and we have no culture? Come on man. Americans practically created the world's popular culture! The only reason you think we have no culture is because we set the cultural standard!

[Capto]

Second, no country even comes close to rivaling the US in terms of number and importance of the inventions our people produce.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain would like to deny your false allegations.

[Stronk Serb]

"Every country has amazing inventors." First, your wrong. What great inventors live in North Korea? Second, no country even comes close to rivaling the US in terms of number and importance of the inventions our people produce. As for who makes them, true, China makes a lot of what we invented, but they are still American companies with American Headquarters. So we get to keep the vast majority of the money, as our GDP proves.

And regarding global warming, if acknowledge we can't control Mother Nature, why the hell are you praising people who are wasting money trying to stop climate change? They are trying to control nature!




We don't have an interesting history and we have no culture? Come on man. Americans practically created the world's popular culture! The only reason you think we have no culture is because we set the cultural standard!

Tesla, a Serbian/Croatian (not gpnna debate about his exact ethnicity) scienfist, studied on famous European universities, went to America to work for Edison, made the AC (asynchronous current or something like that) for which, a large power plant was enough to power the whole eastern seaboard, while Edison barely struggled with dozens of power plants to power NYC. Your culture is mads by merging diferent cultures. You are not the greatest and you never were, no country was the greatest except Mesopotamia, the first civilized nation.

[CharlieHorse]

Canada

[Stronk Serb]

Canada

It is on the top of my foreign places to live. I was struggling with Australia and Canada, but in Canada you don't have searing heats.

[Capto]

Tesla, a Serbian/Croatian (not gpnna debate about his exact ethnicity) scienfist, studied on famous European universities, went to America to work for Edison, made the AC (asynchronous current or something like that) for which, a large power plant was enough to power the whole eastern seaboard, while Edison barely struggled with dozens of power plants to power NYC. Your culture is mads by merging diferent cultures. You are not the greatest and you never were, no country was the greatest except Mesopotamia, the first civilized nation.

Not to mention the other immigrants to the US. :P

Fermi, Bethe, Segrè, Sundbäck, Bell, Strauß, Einstein, and countless others. :P

[steve102998]

if u want the freest go 2 eathopia u cant get in trouble 4 much but u may get shot by a drug lord but i think merica is the best

[Stronk Serb]

Not to mention the other immigrants to the US. :P

Fermi, Bethe, Segrè, Sundbäck, Bell, Strauß, Einstein, and countless others. :P

Mihailo Pupin studied in Austria and then the US, he was also a great Serbian scientist. He worked his ass off to pay for the studies in the US. Milutin Milankovic (never been in the US, jus here to disapprove Walter's statement) managed to make a calendar which is the most accurate, on every 100,000 years, the calendar makes a mistake lesser then a day, while the current Catholic one is mistaking by a day every 10,000 years.

[Capto]

if u want the freest go 2 eathopia u cant get in trouble 4 much but u may get shot by a drug lord but i think merica is the best

What on earth.

Are you sure you mean Ethiopia? Not Somalia? And I know about khat, but there's not too much drug production or trafficking in Ethiopia AFAIK compared to, say, Afghanistan or northern Mexico.

What great inventors live in North Korea?

How have you never heard of juche fiber. Such great and utter shame upon you.

[Jasperf]

So are pavlovas!

Nope, they were first recorded in New Zealand...

[Walter Powers]

Tesla, a Serbian/Croatian (not gpnna debate about his exact ethnicity) scienfist, studied on famous European universities, went to America to work for Edison, made the AC (asynchronous current or something like that) for which, a large power plant was enough to power the whole eastern seaboard, while Edison barely struggled with dozens of power plants to power NYC. Your culture is mads by merging diferent cultures. You are not the greatest and you never were, no country was the greatest except Mesopotamia, the first civilized nation.

Your missing the point. The reason why our culture I ask great is because it is a product of many different cultures!


The United Kingdom of Great Britain would like to deny your false allegations.

If you or anyone else wants to post a list of the great British inventions so we can compare it to America's, you are welcome to do so.

[britishboy]

no country even comes close to rivaling the US in terms of number and importance of the inventions our people produce.
you know this tiny thing the internet... was made by a british scientist;) but I agree with you but I think yoy cant just forget europen countries, but north korea has nothing lol

[Walter Powers]

you know this tiny thing the internet... was made by a british scientist;) but I agree with you but I think yoy cant just forget europen countries, but north korea has nothing lol

The Internet was invented by many people, but it's invention was helped a lot by US government funding.

[britishboy]

The Internet was invented by many people, but it's invention was helped a lot by US government funding.

cough british scientist cough ;) and most of todays best break throughs are made by british-american teams of scientists so were both awesome:D but I imagin your government pays for most

[Capto]

If you or anyone else wants to post a list of the great British inventions so we can compare it to America's, you are welcome to do so.

I already did.

[britishboy]

I already did.

leave america alone, britian and america and practiclly the same, for god sake our special forces work together!! our countries are best friends!

[Stronk Serb]

Your missing the point. The reason why our culture I ask great is because it is a product of many different cultures!




If you or anyone else wants to post a list of the great British inventions so we can compare it to America's, you are welcome to do so.


Hm. It is not great. It has flaws, you concentrate too much on violence, guns, drugs and sex, not to mention racial discrimination which ended 50 years ago, a long time after most of the world abolished it. Slavery did not end after the Civil War, it continued but in smaller quantity.

[Harry Smith]

How is this thread still going on, I thought we agreed it was just the equivalent of a nationalistic wank?

[Left Now]

They still want to convince us that some countries are known as the bests in the world by all people.

My country is the best for me.Harry's country is the best for him and also for others it is still like this.

[Stronk Serb]

They still want to convince us that some countries are known as the bests in the world by all people.

My country is the best for me.Harry's country is the best for him and also for others it is still like this.

True. You love Iran, I love Serbia, Harry and Jack love the UK. It is kind of stupid to make out the best country due to all of them having apparent flaws. But the best nation by me is Mesopotamia, the first civilization. They were the first that had laws, currency, written language, the foundations of the modern society.

PS. I laughed my jaws off when I saw your signature picture. What does that sign exactly say?

[Left Now]

But the best nation by me is Mesopotamia, the first civilization. They were the first that had laws, currency, written language, the foundations of the modern society.


We had laws and currency and language about 100 years before them my comrade,the Medians and Persians.

PS. I laughed my jaws off when I saw your signature picture. What does that sign exactly say?

On the Board you mean?

Parking = Puncture

[britishboy]

Parking = Puncture

lol is there rocks there or something? and lol that loooks like a ww2 american boat, todays look like this
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8922/rahf.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/rahf.jpg/)
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3619/e76r.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/e76r.jpg/)

[Jasperf]

How is this thread still going on, I thought we agreed it was just the equivalent of a nationalistic wank?

This thread is on your oppinion on countries, and what on you think is best.

[Stronk Serb]

On the Board you mean?

Parking = Puncture

They should make the same thing with Iranian airspace.

[Jasperf]

Back on track please boys

[hihowisitgoin]

Russia

[britishboy]

Russia

why?

[Walter Powers]

Russia

Your American, and you think of all places, RUSSIA is the best country? Are you kidding me? I thought Floridia at least had a little sense left in it, but I guess I'm wrong. Please, explain.

[hihowisitgoin]

Im kidding but apparently I was not being evident. But this video is pretty amazing watch it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw

[Walter Powers]

Im kidding but apparently I was not being evident. But this video is pretty amazing watch it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw

It just makes me sad :(