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Stronger
June 26th, 2013, 09:57 AM
The Supreme Court has ruled 5-4 to strike down the Defense of Marriage Act as unconstitutional in a major victory for advocates of gay marriage and a blow to House Republican leaders. California’s Proposition 8 banning gay marriage also fell, with the court ruling that the appellants did not have standing to appeal a lower court decision overturning the law.
House Republicans authorized spending up to $3 million to defend DOMA in court after President Barack Obama’s administration refused to do so, over the protests of Democrats. But the court ruled that the law violated the equal protection guarantees in the Constitution.
“DOMA instructs all federal officials, and indeed all persons with whom same-sex couples interact, including their own children, that their marriage is less worthy than the marriages of others,” the court found. “The federal statute is invalid, for no legitimate purpose overcomes the purpose and effect to disparage and to injure those whom the State, by its marriage laws, sought to protect in personhood and dignity.
“By seeking to displace this protection and treating those persons as living in marriages less respected than others, the federal statute is in violation of the Fifth Amendment.”
The decision, written by Justice Anthony M. Kennedy joined by the liberal wing of the court, isn’t likely to lead to any immediate congressional action; Obama’s administration had dropped its defense of DOMA and the president came out for gay marriage last year. A parade of lawmakers have come out in recent months in support of gay marriage as the court took up the case, with 54 members of the Senate now in support, including three Republicans.
Indeed, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. had nodded during the oral arguments to the shifting politics on the issue.
“As far as I can tell, political figures are falling over themselves to endorse your side of the case,” he told one of the plaintiffs’ lawyers.
Senate Democratic leaders and the White House are also pushing to expand gay rights further with votes on the Employment Non-Discrimination Act banning workplace discrimination.
Republicans in recent years — as polls have moved sharply in favor of gay rights — have ratcheted back on anti-gay-rights media events and press releases to a tiny fraction of what they were in the middle of the last decade, when the GOP used gay marriage as a wedge issue and President George W. Bush sought to define marriage in the Constitution as a union between one man and one woman.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/defense_of_marriage_act_overturned_prop_8_falls-225940-1.html?pos=hln

I'm so beyond happy that the Supreme Court ruled in favored to overturn both these laws, big step forward for the LGBT-Community.

jaxian rhyder
June 26th, 2013, 10:07 AM
Me too if straights can get married y not gays:)

Jess
June 26th, 2013, 11:22 AM
This is excellent.

TheBassoonist
June 26th, 2013, 11:46 AM
From what I understand, only Section 3 of DOMA was invalidated, meaning that the federal government now recognizes same sex marriage. The states, however, can still not recognize same sex marriages performed in other states, under Section 2. While this is a victory, it's not total without Section 2 of DOMA being invalidated. However, today's decision does allow for a second case addressing Section 2 as violating the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution. That's what's next.

Foamy
June 26th, 2013, 03:04 PM
One giant step in full recognition of gay marriage :)

pineinchneis
June 26th, 2013, 05:58 PM
As TheBassoonist said, a case may well come against Section 2 of Doma. I also wouldn't be surprised if cases came against same sex marriage bans in other states under clauses of the 14th amendment

Harry Smith
June 26th, 2013, 06:00 PM
Good old supreme court, this is such good news

honeybear
June 26th, 2013, 06:46 PM
I am very happy for several reasons...one of which is I have a parent (mom) currently in a same sex relationship and would probably already be married by now....this is by no means a complete fix but it is definitely a step in the right direction...I think it will just be a matter of time

Elysium
June 26th, 2013, 06:49 PM
This news makes me so happy.

HUSTLEMAN
June 27th, 2013, 01:25 AM
It's good to be an American.

NESmaster
June 27th, 2013, 12:27 PM
I do not believe in gay or lesbian marriges. Obama is a complete idiot. Gays should not be able to Marry

Jess
June 27th, 2013, 12:32 PM
I do not believe in gay or lesbian marriges. Obama is a complete idiot. Gays should not be able to Marry

Why? Why shouldn't gays or lesbians have the same rights as straights?

Harry Smith
June 27th, 2013, 12:37 PM
I do not believe in gay or lesbian marriges. Obama is a complete idiot. Gays should not be able to Marry

It doesn't really matter what you believe, everyone has the right to marriage

britishboy
June 28th, 2013, 11:35 AM
It doesn't really matter what you believe, everyone has the right to marriage

true, we all like to talk about how great and modern our societies are but denying people this really proves were not

Harry Smith
June 28th, 2013, 11:44 AM
true, we all like to talk about how great and modern our societies are but denying people this really proves were not

The sad thing is that it will be about 50 years before we come close to global lgbt rights being ensured

britishboy
June 28th, 2013, 11:47 AM
The sad thing is that it will be about 50 years before we come close to global lgbt rights being ensured

more than that, gay people are hung in iran, but thats ok because first they are warned with a whip! but thankfully it will be really soon for countries in europe and north america to adopt lgbt rights

xxdrakeTxx
July 3rd, 2013, 11:13 AM
Well as it might not be completly over with and poloticians are still arguen im just glad there will be places for me to get married and by that time all states will support or accept same sex marriage

Stronger
July 3rd, 2013, 12:36 PM
That probably won't happen for a long time.