I have now given up

[clueless_one]

I’ve given up all together with trying to get a girlfriend. One of my friends (who is a girl and had a boyfriend) said ‘you are a really nice guy and I can’t believe you don’t have a girlfriend and must try to get one for you before formal’. It seems that all the girls I’ve liked never like me back or in that way. I’m indian and it seems to me that due to the racial stereotypes of indian people stink and also things that occur in the media with indian people girl will think that I’m like that. I’m not attracted to indian girls (don’t tell me to go for indian girls, I’m attracted to non-indian girls and that’s just the way I am).

The first girl I liked only smiled and should have been obvious that when she called me a good friend, she looked at me as a friend. I asked her out and she rejected me right up.

The second girl I liked seemed to ask questions about me a lot and seemed to enjoy my company. The news about me liking circulated all over the grade and she know I liked her and herd that I wanted to ask her out. I did it over facebook and she rejected me all together.

The third girl I only told that I liked her and that was it. (Found out her real personality and didn’t like it)

The fourth girl I asked out and she said yes and when making a date she says she is busy. I even herd her say that she will not go out with me (her loss). But the news circled the grade that I asked her out and now everyone knows that she stood me up.

The fifth girl was friends with the forth girl and told me she is disappointed that I didn’t ask her out.

The sixth girl has now been showing me signs of liking me.

She knows I asked out girl four and was surprised saying that I have a girlfriend.

Signs she likes me

She looks at me a few times

She talks to me and asks questions about my life (If I have brother or sisters)

She touched/tapped my arm and back when she was telling me something

She also enjoys the sport I like and the girl I asked out doesn’t really talk about the sport.

We were talking in a group and I did something and she said we have to have dinner before we go there and was laughing/smiling

So, I don’t know what to do. I feel girls like me and my gut tells me they like me but it never seems to go my way. I’m also an only child with family problems and bullies (again mostly because I’m indian). Due to these problems I want to talk to someone I trust who can talk to me, but It just seems that no girl would ever what to be with me due to what is now happening. Is it because of looks or fitness? The boys who bully me are in the school rugby team and all seem to have girlfriends. Only a few of them are nice. I know I don’t have good looks and I’m not really fit but I’m nice to every one. Should I become a bad ass? I try to be nice to everyone, it seems that all girls i've seen go for the bad guys in my school. (seriously I don't understand...) But due to being nice it seems every time bad comes back to me. People tell the teachers on me they all annoy me and blame me for doing things they even call me black (I tell them i'm not and that theres a difference)

I’m seriously unsure what to do. I’m scared that even if I go and ask out girl six (the girl who is after the girl who said that she is disappointed I didn’t ask her out) she will also say no. What should I do :( :cry:

[HockeyLovesMe]

dont worry so much on her saying no and have no regrets.. u should at least try and that way you can say that you at least tried :) ask her to the movies :)

[justin 13]

Keep trying Dude.

[Conqueror of Hearts]

Why are you so obsessed with getting a girl? It's totally fine not to have one. I don't think that they don't want to go out with you because you're indian, maybe they don't want a boyfriend just now. also you asked about the looks...well at that age majority of boys and girls are looking for instant attraction, but that doesn't mean that you should be worried if you dont have the perfect look, you will find a girl that is perfect for you, but that takes time. So don't rush, take it easy and don't be desperate to find one, she'll come when you least expect.

[Sackboy]

Why did u give up on the fifth girl? if she is disappointed because you didn't ask her out before then you should ask her out now.

[clueless_one]

dont worry so much on her saying no and have no regrets.. u should at least try and that way you can say that you at least tried :) ask her to the movies :)

Ask which girl, the latest girl, the sixth one?

Why did u give up on the fifth girl? if she is disappointed because you didn't ask her out before then you should ask her out now.

She said she doesn't want to talk to me, so do you think I should ask the sixth girl instead?

[clueless_one]

Why are you so obsessed with getting a girl? It's totally fine not to have one. I don't think that they don't want to go out with you because you're indian, maybe they don't want a boyfriend just now. also you asked about the looks...well at that age majority of boys and girls are looking for instant attraction, but that doesn't mean that you should be worried if you dont have the perfect look, you will find a girl that is perfect for you, but that takes time. So don't rush, take it easy and don't be desperate to find one, she'll come when you least expect.

Again, I'm an only child and don't have anyone to spend time with. I feel that having a girlfriend will help me have some fun and I'm able to have fun and be with someone who I can have fun with and go to places. :(

[Sackboy]

Ask which girl, the latest girl, the sixth one?



She said she doesn't want to talk to me, so do you think I should ask the sixth girl instead?
If you really like her then ask her out.

Again, I'm an only child and don't have anyone to spend time with. I feel that having a girlfriend will help me have some fun and I'm able to have fun and be with someone who I can have fun with and go to places. :(

Cannt you do that with your friends?

[clueless_one]

If you really like her then ask her out.



Cannt you do that with your friends?

The truth is I don't have friends. Well I do but not very good friends who I don't want to always be with. Their the type who take drugs and always drink, I try to avoid that.

[Sackboy]

The truth is I don't have friends. Well I do but not very good friends who I don't want to always be with. Their the type who take drugs and always drink, I try to avoid that.

You should probably try to ignore them. If you looking for someone to hangout and have fun i think you should try making some new friends rather than trying to get a gf desperately. Friendship usually last longer than a relationship too.

[Conqueror of Hearts]

Again, I'm an only child and don't have anyone to spend time with. I feel that having a girlfriend will help me have some fun and I'm able to have fun and be with someone who I can have fun with and go to places. :(

Well you can do that with your friends too. Make friends and girls will come later. ;) If you don't like ppl who take drugs then find another friends...maybe you can meet someone who isn't going to your school.

[nice]

I’ve given up all together with trying to get a girlfriend. One of my friends (who is a girl and had a boyfriend) said ‘you are a really nice guy and I can’t believe you don’t have a girlfriend and must try to get one for you before formal’. It seems that all the girls I’ve liked never like me back or in that way. I’m indian and it seems to me that due to the racial stereotypes of indian people stink and also things that occur in the media with indian people girl will think that I’m like that. I’m not attracted to indian girls (don’t tell me to go for indian girls, I’m attracted to non-indian girls and that’s just the way I am).

The first girl I liked only smiled and should have been obvious that when she called me a good friend, she looked at me as a friend. I asked her out and she rejected me right up.

The second girl I liked seemed to ask questions about me a lot and seemed to enjoy my company. The news about me liking circulated all over the grade and she know I liked her and herd that I wanted to ask her out. I did it over facebook and she rejected me all together.

The third girl I only told that I liked her and that was it. (Found out her real personality and didn’t like it)

The fourth girl I asked out and she said yes and when making a date she says she is busy. I even herd her say that she will not go out with me (her loss). But the news circled the grade that I asked her out and now everyone knows that she stood me up.

The fifth girl was friends with the forth girl and told me she is disappointed that I didn’t ask her out.

The sixth girl has now been showing me signs of liking me.

She knows I asked out girl four and was surprised saying that I have a girlfriend.

Signs she likes me

She looks at me a few times

She talks to me and asks questions about my life (If I have brother or sisters)

She touched/tapped my arm and back when she was telling me something

She also enjoys the sport I like and the girl I asked out doesn’t really talk about the sport.

We were talking in a group and I did something and she said we have to have dinner before we go there and was laughing/smiling

So, I don’t know what to do. I feel girls like me and my gut tells me they like me but it never seems to go my way. I’m also an only child with family problems and bullies (again mostly because I’m indian). Due to these problems I want to talk to someone I trust who can talk to me, but It just seems that no girl would ever what to be with me due to what is now happening. Is it because of looks or fitness? The boys who bully me are in the school rugby team and all seem to have girlfriends. Only a few of them are nice. I know I don’t have good looks and I’m not really fit but I’m nice to every one. Should I become a bad ass? I try to be nice to everyone, it seems that all girls i've seen go for the bad guys in my school. (seriously I don't understand...) But due to being nice it seems every time bad comes back to me. People tell the teachers on me they all annoy me and blame me for doing things they even call me black (I tell them i'm not and that theres a difference)

I’m seriously unsure what to do. I’m scared that even if I go and ask out girl six (the girl who is after the girl who said that she is disappointed I didn’t ask her out) she will also say no. What should I do :( :cry:

All the things you say that make you think she like you doesn't always mean something. I have friends that do all that stuff to me and they have no attraction to me at all. It seems like your just taking small things that girls do and making them things girls would do if they liked a guy. Instead of going for girls trying to date them you could just try to be their friend or make new friends when you do that a girlfriend will just come naturally with all of that at some point.

[Austins]

There's someone for everyone mate

[clueless_one]

All the things you say that make you think she like you doesn't always mean something. I have friends that do all that stuff to me and they have no attraction to me at all. It seems like your just taking small things that girls do and making them things girls would do if they liked a guy. Instead of going for girls trying to date them you could just try to be their friend or make new friends when you do that a girlfriend will just come naturally with all of that at some point.

These girls I have talked about are my friends. Perhaps I spend to long getting to know them and they get tired of me and run away. What if a girl who is a friend does these things. What does that mean then?

Also I forgot to add to the signs girl six likes me.

She knows I asked out girl four and was surprised saying that I have a girlfriend.

She looks at me a few times

She talks to me and asks questions about my life (If I have brother or sisters)

She touched/tapped my arm and back when she was telling me something about my school work, which never happeneds with other girls.

NEW SIGN her hand was really close to mine (almost touching distance(maybe wanted me to hold her hand:confused:)) she didn't move her hand at all. (This was at the same time as the sign above this one)

She also enjoys the sport I like and the girl I asked out doesn’t really talk about the sport.

We were talking in a group and I did something and she said we have to have dinner before we go there and was laughing/smiling

NEW SIGN: she yelled my name out of the blue at a public place when she was with her girl friends and also in class.

[nice]

These girls I have talked about are my friends. Perhaps I spend to long getting to know them and they get tired of me and run away. What if a girl who is a friend does these things. What does that mean then?

Also I forgot to add to the signs girl six likes me.

She knows I asked out girl four and was surprised saying that I have a girlfriend.

She looks at me a few times

She talks to me and asks questions about my life (If I have brother or sisters)

She touched/tapped my arm and back when she was telling me something about my school work, which never happeneds with other girls.

NEW SIGN her hand was really close to mine (almost touching distance(maybe wanted me to hold her hand:confused:)) she didn't move her hand at all. (This was at the same time as the sign above this one)

She also enjoys the sport I like and the girl I asked out doesn’t really talk about the sport.

We were talking in a group and I did something and she said we have to have dinner before we go there and was laughing/smiling

NEW SIGN: she yelled my name out of the blue at a public place when she was with her girl friends and also in class.

I don't know to me it still just sounds like a really good friendship I have girls that I do stuff with that make of seem like we could date to some rolls but we aren't. If I were you I'd just stop its not point in asking every girl that does something like the things you mentioned above if they like you every. Just let it flow. I honestly don't know if this girl likes you or not but to me it just seems like a close friendship at most.

[Miri]

Some of the best relationships start from friendships.

Honestly, none of us here can tell you if Girl 6 will say yes, or if she's even into you in the first place. If you really want to know, ask her out!

The titles like "I have now given up" bug me, because you're just a teenager, and you have your entire life ahead of you! Don't forget that.

[Trenton_]

I’ve given up all together with trying to get a girlfriend. One of my friends (who is a girl and had a boyfriend) said ‘you are a really nice guy and I can’t believe you don’t have a girlfriend and must try to get one for you before formal’. It seems that all the girls I’ve liked never like me back or in that way. I’m indian and it seems to me that due to the racial stereotypes of indian people stink and also things that occur in the media with indian people girl will think that I’m like that. I’m not attracted to indian girls (don’t tell me to go for indian girls, I’m attracted to non-indian girls and that’s just the way I am).

The first girl I liked only smiled and should have been obvious that when she called me a good friend, she looked at me as a friend. I asked her out and she rejected me right up.

The second girl I liked seemed to ask questions about me a lot and seemed to enjoy my company. The news about me liking circulated all over the grade and she know I liked her and herd that I wanted to ask her out. I did it over facebook and she rejected me all together.

The third girl I only told that I liked her and that was it. (Found out her real personality and didn’t like it)

The fourth girl I asked out and she said yes and when making a date she says she is busy. I even herd her say that she will not go out with me (her loss). But the news circled the grade that I asked her out and now everyone knows that she stood me up.

The fifth girl was friends with the forth girl and told me she is disappointed that I didn’t ask her out.

The sixth girl has now been showing me signs of liking me.

She knows I asked out girl four and was surprised saying that I have a girlfriend.

Signs she likes me

She looks at me a few times

She talks to me and asks questions about my life (If I have brother or sisters)

She touched/tapped my arm and back when she was telling me something

She also enjoys the sport I like and the girl I asked out doesn’t really talk about the sport.

We were talking in a group and I did something and she said we have to have dinner before we go there and was laughing/smiling

So, I don’t know what to do. I feel girls like me and my gut tells me they like me but it never seems to go my way. I’m also an only child with family problems and bullies (again mostly because I’m indian). Due to these problems I want to talk to someone I trust who can talk to me, but It just seems that no girl would ever what to be with me due to what is now happening. Is it because of looks or fitness? The boys who bully me are in the school rugby team and all seem to have girlfriends. Only a few of them are nice. I know I don’t have good looks and I’m not really fit but I’m nice to every one. Should I become a bad ass? I try to be nice to everyone, it seems that all girls i've seen go for the bad guys in my school. (seriously I don't understand...) But due to being nice it seems every time bad comes back to me. People tell the teachers on me they all annoy me and blame me for doing things they even call me black (I tell them i'm not and that theres a difference)

I’m seriously unsure what to do. I’m scared that even if I go and ask out girl six (the girl who is after the girl who said that she is disappointed I didn’t ask her out) she will also say no. What should I do :( :cry:

So you don't find Indian girls attractive, but you want other girls to find you, and Indian guy, attractive? Very hypocritical.

Then you say you're not attractive and not in shape? So you're somehow surprised at that girls don't want to date you? Girls don't want some lazy guy, they want a guy they can be proud of and if you're not in shape, that's just being lazy. Do you want to date a lazy girl?

you way over analyze the tiny little things these girls say and do. It's NO mystery when a girl likes you. NONE. So if you have to read into it, read that they are just being polite rather than rude, which is actually pretty nice of them if you think about it. look at other guys and their girls, it's very obvious they like each other, touching your arm or back is NOT some secret code for you to figure out that they like you, it just isn't. It's normal social interaction that says you don't completely turn them off and you're NOT disgusting, but that's it, nothing more than that.

you're scaring the hell outta these girls by coming on to them over stuff like that.

[clueless_one]

I don't know to me it still just sounds like a really good friendship I have girls that I do stuff with that make of seem like we could date to some rolls but we aren't. If I were you I'd just stop its not point in asking every girl that does something like the things you mentioned above if they like you every. Just let it flow. I honestly don't know if this girl likes you or not but to me it just seems like a close friendship at most.

Some of the best relationships start from friendships.

Honestly, none of us here can tell you if Girl 6 will say yes, or if she's even into you in the first place. If you really want to know, ask her out!

The titles like "I have now given up" bug me, because you're just a teenager, and you have your entire life ahead of you! Don't forget that.

So you don't find Indian girls attractive, but you want other girls to find you, and Indian guy, attractive? Very hypocritical.

Then you say you're not attractive and not in shape? So you're somehow surprised at that girls don't want to date you? Girls don't want some lazy guy, they want a guy they can be proud of and if you're not in shape, that's just being lazy. Do you want to date a lazy girl?

you way over analyze the tiny little things these girls say and do. It's NO mystery when a girl likes you. NONE. So if you have to read into it, read that they are just being polite rather than rude, which is actually pretty nice of them if you think about it. look at other guys and their girls, it's very obvious they like each other, touching your arm or back is NOT some secret code for you to figure out that they like you, it just isn't. It's normal social interaction that says you don't completely turn them off and you're NOT disgusting, but that's it, nothing more than that.

you're scaring the hell outta these girls by coming on to them over stuff like that.

I don't think you know how sh1t it is for an only child to live a life with family problem and being bullied. You might tell me to see a counsellor, I've already been, they don't help me. Also being an only child doesn't help, how can I get confidence with others. I hate my life and I want someone to share my problems with. Know what tell me what you think are signs of a girl liking me, I think to you it will be obvious if she holds your hand or walks with you all the time, if so your a joke. No girl will do that. I've been a friend with girl six for a year and a half and I didn't know much about her, but I've now learnt a lot and she seems to be a girl that is exactly like me. So please tell me what you think are signs that a girl likes me before I kill myself for how my life has been. :( :cry:

Wait that's right, no girl will like to be with a loner who doesn't have anything to do. Well I consider myself a loner, better say goodbye to ever getting a girlfriend.:( :cry:

[nice]

I don't think you know how sh1t it is for an only child to live a life with family problem and being bullied. You might tell me to see a counsellor, I've already been, they don't help me. Also being an only child doesn't help, how can I get confidence with others. I hate my life and I want someone to share my problems with. Know what tell me what you think are signs of a girl liking me, I think to you it will be obvious if she holds your hand or walks with you all the time, if so your a joke. No girl will do that. I've been a friend with girl six for a year and a half and I didn't know much about her, but I've now learnt a lot and she seems to be a girl that is exactly like me. So please tell me what you think are signs that a girl likes me before I kill myself for how my life has been. :(. :cry:

Just calm down and relax their is no reason to do something so rash as killing yourself over being single. Every girl is different when it comes to showing that she likes a guy but if she is always staring at you when you walk away or when you guys talk and she's just so lost for words to say and she's blushing and says she sounds stupid a lot when she talks that could be a sign. If yo turn back after you left from talking to her and she's still liking at you an her friends are trying to get her attention that's another sign if she's being dumb about checking you out and not trying to sneak.

But you honestly say that you want a girlfriend so you can talk to her about your problems and just things that make you sad and other stuff you could make a close friend and just as easily do it with them so again these no need trying to rush getting a girlfriend. Also if their is very little time gap in you trying to talk to girls like girl one says she didn't like you and you started talking a different girl the next day that could be a turn off to some girls and make them think you're desperate which is something you don't wanna do.

[clueless_one]

Just calm down and relax their is no reason to do something so rash as killing yourself over being single. Every girl is different when it comes to showing that she likes a guy but if she is always staring at you when you walk away or when you guys talk and she's just so lost for words to say and she's blushing and says she sounds stupid a lot when she talks that could be a sign. If yo turn back after you left from talking to her and she's still liking at you an her friends are trying to get her attention that's another sign if she's being dumb about checking you out and not trying to sneak.

But you honestly say that you want a girlfriend so you can talk to her about your problems and just things that make you sad and other stuff you could make a close friend and just as easily do it with them so again these no need trying to rush getting a girlfriend. Also if their is very little time gap in you trying to talk to girls like girl one says she didn't like you and you started talking a different girl the next day that could be a turn off to some girls and make them think you're desperate which is something you don't wanna do.

I have given up about girls know. Who cares about girls. F**k girls, their too confusing for me. That's what you are making it feel like. :( :( :( :(

[nice]

I have given up about girls know. Who cares about girls. F**k girls, their too confusing for me. That's what you are making it feel like. :( :( :( :(

.-. There are some people that think girls are fucking a whole different race and the most confusing people ever then there are people who think most girls are pretty simple for the most part (I do). There are different ways to understand any girl it just really seems like what someone else above said you read to much into a girl being nice and polite as her flirting with you and liking you.

[clueless_one]

Wait I know exactly why I want a gf. I don't have any love in my family, which is the family (not going to write about it). But I'm missing out on what love and being with someone who likes you actually is which is why I want a gf, so I can show love and be loved :(

[nice]

You can do the same exact thing with a close friend for the most part minus Somme of the romantic stuff but it's really the same.

[clueless_one]

You can do the same exact thing with a close friend for the most part minus Somme of the romantic stuff but it's really the same.

You just don't want me to have a girlfriend. No one wants me to be in a relationship. Why too many Indians already? I HATE EVERYONE especially MY LIFE.

[nice]

You just don't want me to have a girlfriend. No one wants me to be in a relationship. Why too many Indians already? I HATE EVERYONE especially MY LIFE.

Would you just calm down. Please give me one reason that I wouldn't want you to have a girlfriend it wouldn't affect me at all and I honestly wouldn't give a fuck you'd be happy. Yeah you!!! Your young you have plenty of time to find a girlfriend. So just relax calm down and make friends who will love you.

[clueless_one]

Would you just calm down. Please give me one reason that I wouldn't want you to have a girlfriend it wouldn't affect me at all and I honestly wouldn't give a fuck you'd be happy. Yeah you!!! Your young you have plenty of time to find a girlfriend. So just relax calm down and make friends who will love you.

I'm 18, you think that's young. I'm what they call a young adult.

[Trenton_]

Just calm down and relax their is no reason to do something so rash as killing yourself over being single.

He has a rash too? Wow, this dude has a ton of issues.


Every girl is different when it comes to showing that she likes a guy but if she is always staring at you when you walk away or when you guys talk and she's just so lost for words to say and she's blushing and says she sounds stupid a lot when she talks that could be a sign.

It could also be a sign she is stupid lol. Here we go again with these secret signs that don't exist. I'll tell ya when you know a girl likes you:
She says, and I quote, "I like you". That's a good sign right there.
She hugs you and kisses you. That's another unmistakable sign!
If she's having ANY kind of sex with you, there's an excellent chance she really likes you. Excellent chance. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Those are the "signs" to look for.



If yo turn back after you left from talking to her and she's still liking at you an her friends are trying to get her attention that's another sign if she's being dumb about checking you out and not trying to sneak.

But you honestly say that you want a girlfriend so you can talk to her about your problems and just things that make you sad and other stuff you could make a close friend and just as easily do it with them so again these no need trying to rush getting a girlfriend. Also if their is very little time gap in you trying to talk to girls like girl one says she didn't like you and you started talking a different girl the next day that could be a turn off to some girls and make them think you're desperate which is something you don't wanna do.

great one on the desperate look! Can't treat girls like they are interchangeable like he is. Definitely can't go from one to the next to the next. Guys do that and it's game over because girls look at you as just playing them like a game and they all talk and once that gets around, the guy turns invisible to them. As he should.




I have given up about girls know. Who cares about girls. F**k girls, their too confusing for me. That's what you are making it feel like. :( :( :( :(

IDK abt the eff girls statement. If you can't get them to like you, they certainly aren't going to eff you.

Giving up on girls? Okay so now your gonna be one of those guys that chooses a gay life? wow. good luck with that. The gays say it isn't a choice man and giving up on girls and going gay like you say is a choice. And if you are going gay, you might not want to insult them by making them your second choice. Plus IDK what the Indian culture thinks about gay stuff, so maybe they are down with that. For your sake I hope so.

Don't blame us for what you feel like. We weren't going from girl to girl like we used to go door to door on halloween for candy. You just need to do a few things and you'll be back on track.

1. quit being whiny. girls can get all the whiny they want from other girls. they date guys to be away from whiny.
2. Get in shape and quit being fat and lazy. Do you want to date fat and lazy? No one does! If you now say, well I'm not that out of shape, well great, you got less work to do. If a guy isn't old there's no reason to not be in shape.
3. get a completely new personality. this may go back to number 1, but no whining, man up, be a man, do manly things. women, like men. women, want to be wanted, so shopping around for a girlfriend is treating them like they are a pair of sneakers you're looking for at the mall. Totally rude to treat them that way.
4. Really, really, really got re-think giving up on girls. I don't think it's wise to just go gay because it isn't working out with girls and I'm pretty sure that you have to be in even better shape to go gay. Not sure, just a guess based on observation.
5. do something about that rash.

[nice]

great one on the desperate look! Can't treat girls like they are interchangeable like he is. Definitely cant go from one to the next to the next. Guys do that and it's game over because girls look at you as just playing them like a game and they all talk and once that gets around, the guy turns invisible to them. As he should.






IDK abt the eff girls statement. If you can't get them to like you, they certainly aren't going to eff you.

Giving up on girls? Okay so now your gonna be one of those guys that chooses a gay life? wow. good luck with that. The gays say it isn't a choice man and giving up on girls and going gay like you say is a choice. And if you are going gay, you might not want to insult them by making them your second choice. Plus IDK what the Indian culture thinks about gay stuff, so maybe they are down with that. For your sake I hope so.

Don't blame us for what you feel like. We weren't going from girl to girl like we used to go door to door on halloween for candy. You just need to do a few things and you'll be back on track.

1. quit being whiny. girls can get all the whiny they want from other girls. they date guys to be away from whiny.
2. Get in shape and quit being fat and lazy. Do you want to date fat and lazy? No one does! If you now say, well I'm not that out of shape, well great, you got less work to do. If a guy isn't old there's no reason to not be in shape.
3. get a completely new personality. this may go back to number 1, but no whining, man up, be a man, do manly things. women, like men. women, want to be wanted, so shopping around for a girlfriend is treating them like they are a pair of sneakers you're looking for at the mall. Totally rude to treat them that way.
4. Really, really, really got re-think giving up on girls. I don't think it's wise to just go gay because it isn't working out with girls and I'm pretty sure that you have to be in even better shape to go gay. Not sure, just a guess based on observation.

-.- ill admit some of the things I said were dumb signs that girls like you but not all of them. But you have to remember not. All girls are upfront and Weill say they like you some like to play games and stuff like that and won't say it -_-

[clueless_one]

great one on the desperate look! Can't treat girls like they are interchangeable like he is. Definitely cant go from one to the next to the next. Guys do that and it's game over because girls look at you as just playing them like a game and they all talk and once that gets around, the guy turns invisible to them. As he should.






IDK abt the eff girls statement. If you can't get them to like you, they certainly aren't going to eff you.

Giving up on girls? Okay so now your gonna be one of those guys that chooses a gay life? wow. good luck with that. The gays say it isn't a choice man and giving up on girls and going gay like you say is a choice. And if you are going gay, you might not want to insult them by making them your second choice. Plus IDK what the Indian culture thinks about gay stuff, so maybe they are down with that. For your sake I hope so.

Don't blame us for what you feel like. We weren't going from girl to girl like we used to go door to door on halloween for candy. You just need to do a few things and you'll be back on track.

1. quit being whiny. girls can get all the whiny they want from other girls. they date guys to be away from whiny.
2. Get in shape and quit being fat and lazy. Do you want to date fat and lazy? No one does! If you now say, well I'm not that out of shape, well great, you got less work to do. If a guy isn't old there's no reason to not be in shape.
3. get a completely new personality. this may go back to number 1, but no whining, man up, be a man, do manly things. women, like men. women, want to be wanted, so shopping around for a girlfriend is treating them like they are a pair of sneakers you're looking for at the mall. Totally rude to treat them that way.
4. Really, really, really got re-think giving up on girls. I don't think it's wise to just go gay because it isn't working out with girls and I'm pretty sure that you have to be in even better shape to go gay. Not sure, just a guess based on observation.

Fuck you and my life. I hate everything in my life. I should kill myself, all these problems will stop then :mad:

[Trenton_]

-.- ill admit some of the things I said were dumb signs that girls like you but not all of them. But you have to remember not. All girls are upfront and Weill say they like you some like to play games and stuff like that and won't say it -_-

nah, the stuff you're talking about is harmless flirting and if they like you they will tell you, particularly if you ask. If you're good looking enough, they might eventually mention it, but pretty much, a guy has to man up and ask her or go with the obvious kissing and sexing 'em up signs.

Fuck you and my life. I hate everything in my life. I should kill myself, all these problems will stop then :mad:

I'm actually trying to help you, the other people are just telling you what they think you want to hear, but okay, I'm out. Saying efff you to me might be part of that personality re-working you need to start on asap.


*Merged*:)

[nice]

nah, the stuff you're talking about is harmless flirting and if they like you they will tell you, particularly if you ask. If you're good looking enough, they might eventually mention it, but pretty much, a guy has to man up and ask her or go with the obvious kissing and sexing 'em up signs.

True in the end they'll get to the point I guess so one way or another they'd tell you.

[Conqueror of Hearts]

great one on the desperate look! Can't treat girls like they are interchangeable like he is. Definitely can't go from one to the next to the next. Guys do that and it's game over because girls look at you as just playing them like a game and they all talk and once that gets around, the guy turns invisible to them. As he should.


IDK abt the eff girls statement. If you can't get them to like you, they certainly aren't going to eff you.

Giving up on girls? Okay so now your gonna be one of those guys that chooses a gay life? wow. good luck with that. The gays say it isn't a choice man and giving up on girls and going gay like you say is a choice. And if you are going gay, you might not want to insult them by making them your second choice. Plus IDK what the Indian culture thinks about gay stuff, so maybe they are down with that. For your sake I hope so.

Don't blame us for what you feel like. We weren't going from girl to girl like we used to go door to door on halloween for candy. You just need to do a few things and you'll be back on track.

1. quit being whiny. girls can get all the whiny they want from other girls. they date guys to be away from whiny.
2. Get in shape and quit being fat and lazy. Do you want to date fat and lazy? No one does! If you now say, well I'm not that out of shape, well great, you got less work to do. If a guy isn't old there's no reason to not be in shape.
3. get a completely new personality. this may go back to number 1, but no whining, man up, be a man, do manly things. women, like men. women, want to be wanted, so shopping around for a girlfriend is treating them like they are a pair of sneakers you're looking for at the mall. Totally rude to treat them that way.
4. Really, really, really got re-think giving up on girls. I don't think it's wise to just go gay because it isn't working out with girls and I'm pretty sure that you have to be in even better shape to go gay. Not sure, just a guess based on observation.
5. do something about that rash.

This guy right here is helping you...yeah, he was maybe sarcastic a bit but dude you are whining all the time. You do need to man up and you can be mad at the world, yourself, him, girls, life etc but eventually you'll need to get up if you want something to change. I don't say it's easy, but whining will not help you. I've been trying to help you for a few days now, but it doesn't seem like you take in anything that we say to you, so maybe tough love is what you need.

[clueless_one]

This guy right here is helping you...yeah, he was maybe sarcastic a bit but dude you are whining all the time. You do need to man up and you can be mad at the world, yourself, him, girls, life etc but eventually you'll need to get up if you want something to change. I don't say it's easy, but whining will not help you. I've been trying to help you for a few days now, but it doesn't seem like you take in anything that we say to you, so maybe tough love is what you need.

Really, trying to help me... What your all trying to say is that I will never get a girlfriend. Your not telling me what I should do and how I can get out of this issue where i've asked out a girl, she said yes and now is saying she is busy and said that she doesn't ever want to go out with me and she just said yes. Everyone in the school knows so its ruined my chance to get with any girl now. So what your all trying to say is that if a girl comes straight and says they like you or kiss you it means they like you... I thought that girls always like the guy to do the first move... So now what, i will just wait for a girl to tell me they like me and then I will say sorry I like someone else.

Therefore what your saying is I will never get a chance with a girl. I only posted on this to get your advice on what I should do and i'm not getting that. Please just help me on the first post on what I should do. :(:(:( :cry::cry::cry:

[Trenton_]

This guy right here is helping you...yeah, he was maybe sarcastic a bit but dude you are whining all the time. You do need to man up and you can be mad at the world, yourself, him, girls, life etc but eventually you'll need to get up if you want something to change. I don't say it's easy, but whining will not help you. I've been trying to help you for a few days now, but it doesn't seem like you take in anything that we say to you, so maybe tough love is what you need.

Really, trying to help me... What your all trying to say is that I will never get a girlfriend. Your not telling me what I should do and how I can get out of this issue where i've asked out a girl, she said yes and now is saying she is busy and said that she doesn't ever want to go out with me and she just said yes. Everyone in the school knows so its ruined my chance to get with any girl now. So what your all trying to say is that if a girl comes straight and says they like you or kiss you it means they like you... I thought that girls always like the guy to do the first move... So now what, i will just wait for a girl to tell me they like me and then I will say sorry I like someone else.

Therefore what your saying is I will never get a chance with a girl. I only posted on this to get your advice on what I should do and i'm not getting that. Please just help me on the first post on what I should do. :(:(:( :cry::cry::cry:

Peopledocare! We have a winner. YOU my friend have figured out that my post has some sarcasm as well as REAL advice.

The_one_1 ? You are without a clue and just want attention and THAT isn't attractive to either sex. I dare say that dating a girl is more about the girl than you. In fact it's the whole point. Then you have the balls to say "Your not telling me what I should do " Dude I gave you a list of 5 things, 2 of them are jokes, IDK what you expect, but no one has made it clearer than I have.

I can't believe I'm still trying to help you smh.

Okay, so you said, now what, i will just wait for a girl to tell me they like me.
The answer to that is.....wait for it.....YES! you dope! How many ways do we need to make that clear?

You go around in life worrying about you, you, you and think I don't have have gf. That's not attractive to girls....so be ...BE attractive to girls in every way. How you behave. That's a loaded term, but really think about your behavior. Treating girls like you're shopping for a car is BEYOND insulting! You're view of them is that they are property like hey everybody look at my new car, hey everybody, look what I have... a gf. Other behavior, don't just stare at their ass and boobs, be pleasant, respectful, be manly, look out for them, do the right thing, be interesting, have a very good body, play sports, be smart, perfect hygine, a good hair cut, decent clothes etc = like I said, anything you can think of.

In fact you're surrounded by role models. Look at the popular guys who have girls look at how they behave and how they are when girls aren't around and when they are. Copy them.

Because of the way you've been, it's gonna take a while, a long while and that doesn't matter because girls aren't property to you anymore AND you'll be, or should be, working on yourself = as in working out so you have some muscles, running or something to get rid of all your fat. How much fat? Go look up body mass index, get to that weight with muscle, that's how much.

And then, someday when you've settled into a routine and are doing things with your team mates - yup you're joining a team of some sort so you'll quickly have some quasi friends to hang with - so you'll be going along and then some girl or guy will ask if you're dating someone on behalf of some girl that likes you. Or you'll be at school or a party and there will be some girl that's been your friend for a while who will tell you she likes you or asks if you like her in more than a friend kinda way: see? it couldn't be more obvious when a girl likes you if you are really, really patient. Or maybe after months and months of knowing a girl as a friend, you ask her if she could like you more than as a friend, but patience is needed.

Guys are easy, we like girls, most girls actually, and are attracted initially solely by their looks. Girls aren't like us though. They aren't blind, looks mean something to them, but whether you're you or IDK some hot guy, to them, it's just looks, meaning it's a part of it, but not crazy important, let's say 20% for girls where guys are more like 50% when it comes to looks.

So there's that other 80% that is your personality, how you behave. Ladies, feel free to chime in here....
are you both manly and kind?
Are you funny, but not rude?
are you in shape, but modest about it?
Are you firm, but polite?
Are you smart, but not arrogant?
Are you tough, yet somewhat vulnerable?
Do you think of others first instead of yourself?
Are you interesting without being self involved?
Do you have interesting friends so when you do things with some girls, it won't be awkward?

Those things, above, that's not just when you're around girls or think they are watching because they see you when you don't know it. You have a reputation and girls you don't like may see you being a jerk and you think you don't care, but that girl has friends and that friend has friends.

Same for when you're with guys. guys have gfs and sisters and if someone asks about their day and part of their day is you being selfish or some other anti-boyfriend behavior, word gets out eventually.

Finding a girlfriend or her finding you is a process not an activity. It's a half marathon, not a sprint. It's not something you DO, it's something that comes about if you're both paying attention.

Dude ... I swear, what I wrote has a ton, A TON of things for you to DO. Go re read it. From memory, you said you don't have friends, well go make some, that will take a while. Join a team or two, that will take a while. Be smart, more time. Be interesting, read the news, know what's happening locally,nationally and internationally, have a hobby that actually interests you - that your patient about and spend time doing because YOU like it and it will keep you busy while you change your image and reputation - that's interesting to people, their hobbies. Get in shape, that takes a while. Get in very, very good shape, that takes longer. Read, learn, observe, use your mind and body.

There are some attractive guys on VT, but I don't remember their names go read what they write and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's not just their looks, it's their outlook and how they write. To me they are attractive people to me and others because we are drawn to them - as in attraction because of how their mind works and how they write. They have fascinating minds, learn from them, be interested in them. The same is true of some VT girls, but in a different way, learn about what girls care about, they are COMPLETELY different than us in how they think and what's important to them. It might be the same "kinda" stuff, but it's ranked differently than how a guy thinks. Learn about girls from girls. The girls here post GREAT STUFF and to me, the MOST INTERESTING THING about them is that they aren't guys who are wondering 24/7 if their pathetic penis measures up or not. That alone is awesome - YAY GIRLS! YAY LADIES!


IDK if it's appropriate, but there are a couple of guys who write longer posts who actually provide some insight and are thought provoking who I want to be more like and I'll post their names here at some point in a respectful way. Start with the mods, a lot of those guys and girls write really well and are insightful - they really are. Pls go check out the interesting people on VT.

[indoxyl]

Really, trying to help me... What your all trying to say is that I will never get a girlfriend. Your not telling me what I should do and how I can get out of this issue where i've asked out a girl, she said yes and now is saying she is busy and said that she doesn't ever want to go out with me and she just said yes. Everyone in the school knows so its ruined my chance to get with any girl now. So what your all trying to say is that if a girl comes straight and says they like you or kiss you it means they like you... I thought that girls always like the guy to do the first move... So now what, i will just wait for a girl to tell me they like me and then I will say sorry I like someone else.

Therefore what your saying is I will never get a chance with a girl. I only posted on this to get your advice on what I should do and i'm not getting that. Please just help me on the first post on what I should do. :(:(:( :cry::cry::cry:

i really hope 'advertising' another site isnt against the rules or w/e but check out pof.com thats where i met my current boyfriend (been dating for eight mnths now) maybe you'll have some luck there instead of with people at your school

[clueless_one]

Okay, so you said, now what, i will just wait for a girl to tell me they like me.
The answer to that is.....wait for it.....YES! you dope! How many ways do we need to make that clear?



Then what the fuck am I meant to do when i'm interested in a girl. Nothing and some crap shows that they like me saying that they like me and go out with them. Hell Fucking no. I want to be happy in my life and it seems i'm never going to be happy being an only child and with this. With what your saying is that means I will get a shit girlfriend and have a shit life with a girl i'm not attracted to and that will lead to a fucking boring and shit life. DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT. So what am I going to do to show girls I like them.


You go around in life worrying about you, you, you and think I don't have have gf. That's not attractive to girls....so be ...BE attractive to girls in every way. How you behave. That's a loaded term, but really think about your behavior. Treating girls like you're shopping for a car is BEYOND insulting! You're view of them is that they are property like hey everybody look at my new car, hey everybody, look what I have... a gf. Other behavior, don't just stare at their ass and boobs, be pleasant, respectful, be manly, look out for them, do the right thing, be interesting, have a very good body, play sports, be smart, perfect hygine, a good hair cut, decent clothes etc = like I said, anything you can think of.



I don't look at girls as property. They need to be respected not some play toy. I respect them. By the way attractiveness is not everything, personality is the main thing, and the personality I have is to be nice and respectful to everyone (which might be why I get bullied but thats just how I am). I don't and never stare at girls ass and boobs. I am pleasant and respectful with perfect hygine, a good hair cut, decent clothes. Alright, I don't play sports, but I try to look after my body. I'm not interesting and can't be interesting because i'm an only child. I can't change that, friends treat me like shit and when I organise things, they don't care about it and never come to anything I organise and no one invite me to anything :(.



In fact you're surrounded by role models. Look at the popular guys who have girls look at how they behave and how they are when girls aren't around and when they are. Copy them.



Look at the popular guys and copy them. They bully the fuck out of me. So what be a fucking ass to everyone INCLUDING girls which is what they do. What the fuck am I meant to fucking do. These guys treat girls like a toy, I heard a guy ask a girl for a bj, why the fuck do guys say that. Girls are meant to be respected and your saying to copy other guys. Really?



Because of the way you've been, it's gonna take a while, a long while and that doesn't matter because girls aren't property to you anymore AND you'll be, or should be, working on yourself = as in working out so you have some muscles, running or something to get rid of all your fat. How much fat? Go look up body mass index, get to that weight with muscle, that's how much.

And then, someday when you've settled into a routine and are doing things with your team mates - yup you're joining a team of some sort so you'll quickly have some quasi friends to hang with - so you'll be going along and then some girl or guy will ask if you're dating someone on behalf of some girl that likes you.



I'm not totally fit. I eat well and I am healthy. What i'm trying to say is that all the guys that have girlfriends play sports. What do I want to do... CONCENTRATE ON SCHOOL WORK. What girl doesn't want a smart guy... I'm not fat at all. By the way all the people who bully me are part of sports teams in the area I live in, so again no friends from there.



Or you'll be at school or a party and there will be some girl that's been your friend for a while who will tell you she likes you or asks if you like her in more than a friend kinda way: see? it couldn't be more obvious when a girl likes you if you are really, really patient. Or maybe after months and months of knowing a girl as a friend, you ask her if she could like you more than as a friend, but patience is needed.


Now this is fucked up. I try to get to know a girl. If I like them ask them out, I get rejected and they call me a friend. Ask them out early and they ru away from me. I have no fucking idea how other guys manage to get girlfriends. That is why I say it could be because i'm indian again I'm not attracted to indian girls. So you tell me what i'm meant to do here. Also i'm never invited to any parties. Which is why I say again, I don't have any friend and have difficulty making new friends because everyone treats me like shit.



Guys are easy, we like girls, most girls actually, and are attracted initially solely by their looks. Girls aren't like us though. They aren't blind, looks mean something to them, but whether you're you or IDK some hot guy, to them, it's just looks, meaning it's a part of it, but not crazy important, let's say 20% for girls where guys are more like 50% when it comes to looks.



Well with the way I look at the moment. Lots of girls are talking to me and find me a really nice guy and friendly. Yet I don't understand why girls don't like me in that way. People say take time to get to know girls and then ask them out. I get to know girls and ask them out, they call me a friend and don't like me in that way. I ask girls out too early and they get scared off. What the hell am I meant to do.



So there's that other 80% that is your personality, how you behave. Ladies, feel free to chime in here....
are you both manly and kind?

I'm kind and nice. If being nice is not manly then tell me.

Are you funny, but not rude?

As I said, i'm nice to everyone and treat everyone with respect. What do I get in return. Shit, nothing, 0. I also do believe i'm funny, many girl have laughed at the jokes i've said and have asked me to say more.

are you in shape, but modest about it?

I'm in a reasonable weight range and try to eat well and keep fit. The only thing is I'm not that big in sports, but in my school work. Yet again what girl doesn't want to be with a guy who is hard working or tries hard at school.

Are you firm, but polite?

I'm polite, and when I need to be firm, I am firm (like with people who bully me, I'm firm to them but don't fight to get out of it. I believe violence like punching and pushing is wrong)

Are you smart, but not arrogant?

Again what girl doesn't want to be with a guy who doesn't try hard at school to get a good grade. The bullying creates difficulties for me in tying to get great marks. But i'm average.

Are you tough, yet somewhat vulnerable?

Yes, I will come out and say i'm not tough. As I said I believe violence is wrong including punching and pushing. What is this a wrong thing.

Do you think of others first instead of yourself?

If there was a car crash, I won't care about my self I will go and help out. If there was a building on fire, I will try and stop it or help people who are in it. So I care and think of others before myself. If my lie is in danger when helping someone else, I won't stop and hesitate, I will actually help anyone.

Are you interesting without being self involved?

This again I am an only child and don't really have anything to do. My parents work and I don't have anything to do. Therefore I am a loner. Yes I agree this is a problem, but with a girlfriend I hope I will be with her most of the time. I have also organised things with friends, hardly any come. Maybe the problem is I talk about a sport in the school i'm in which is not big in the state i'm in and they call it gay. I do attend games of the sport I enjoy and also go to a youth group, so if that doesn't make my life a bit interesting that I have no fucking idea on what to make it more interesting.

Do you have interesting friends so when you do things with some girls, it won't be awkward?

Again, the friends i'm with all drink and take drugs. All guys drink from my school at this age. I'm concentrating on my school work and wanting to do well in the future so I don't drink yet. With drugs, never touch that shit, will ruin your life. look at the news about teens getting killed taking drugs. Not going to touch drugs and no alcohol until after school.



Those things, above, that's not just when you're around girls or think they are watching because they see you when you don't know it. You have a reputation and girls you don't like may see you being a jerk and you think you don't care, but that girl has friends and that friend has friends.

Same for when you're with guys. guys have gfs and sisters and if someone asks about their day and part of their day is you being selfish or some other anti-boyfriend behavior, word gets out eventually.

Finding a girlfriend or her finding you is a process not an activity. It's a half marathon, not a sprint. It's not something you DO, it's something that comes about if you're both paying attention.

Dude ... I swear, what I wrote has a ton, A TON of things for you to DO. Go re read it. From memory, you said you don't have friends, well go make some, that will take a while. Join a team or two, that will take a while. Be smart, more time. Be interesting, read the news, know what's happening locally,nationally and internationally, have a hobby that actually interests you - that your patient about and spend time doing because YOU like it and it will keep you busy while you change your image and reputation - that's interesting to people, their hobbies. Get in shape, that takes a while. Get in very, very good shape, that takes longer. Read, learn, observe, use your mind and body.

There are some attractive guys on VT, but I don't remember their names go read what they write and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's not just their looks, it's their outlook and how they write. To me they are attractive people to me and others because we are drawn to them - as in attraction because of how their mind works and how they write. They have fascinating minds, learn from them, be interested in them. The same is true of some VT girls, but in a different way, learn about what girls care about, they are COMPLETELY different than us in how they think and what's important to them. It might be the same "kinda" stuff, but it's ranked differently than how a guy thinks. Learn about girls from girls. The girls here post GREAT STUFF and to me, the MOST INTERESTING THING about them is that they aren't guys who are wondering 24/7 if their pathetic penis measures up or not. That alone is awesome - YAY GIRLS! YAY LADIES!


IDK if it's appropriate, but there are a couple of guys who write longer posts who actually provide some insight and are thought provoking who I want to be more like and I'll post their names here at some point in a respectful way. Start with the mods, a lot of those guys and girls write really well and are insightful - they really are. Pls go check out the interesting people on VT.

Also, i'm not going to try and meet people over the internet, I never trust things like that on the internet. I'd rather meet people face to face and see if I like the person being with them physically. So tell me what you seriously think now. What am I going to do. I'm a nice guy and because of one girl. Its ruined my chance with other girls. Also it looks like you think i'm a fucking fat slob, i'm not. If you want to know I walk to and from school.I am interested in creating video games, but yet I do that alone, without anyone(again, i'm an only child and at least is shows I do something and am not alway worried about this).So, Please tell me what am I going to do :cry: please...

i really hope 'advertising' another site isnt against the rules or w/e but check out pof.com thats where i met my current boyfriend (been dating for eight mnths now) maybe you'll have some luck there instead of with people at your school

I don't want to use any dating sites. They are just crap, you don't trust what you see on the internet. Well thats what i've learnt. I'd rather meet people face to face and see if I like the person being with them physically. So no.

[indoxyl]

I don't want to use any dating sites. They are just crap, you don't trust what you see on the internet. Well thats what i've learnt. I'd rather meet people face to face and see if I like the person being with them physically. So no.

they are not crap. more and more people are getting married to people they met on a dating site. i met some pretty decent peopleon pof. but hey, its your choice. i really dont think any if us can help you.

[clueless_one]

they are not crap. more and more people are getting married to people they met on a dating site. i met some pretty decent peopleon pof. but hey, its your choice. i really dont think any if us can help you.

I don't fucking trust them. I hate them and am never going to sign up on a fucking dating site. They are all shit. Its better meeting someone face to face and being with them that way.

Fuck this shit. I'll be a loner all the time. I'll never touch the dating site. That shit is well... shit. I don't care if you found someone on it its just what I feel. So...No not touching that rubbish.

[Conqueror of Hearts]

You are still whining....don't do that. Being an only child doesn't mean that you have a disease, I have friends who don't have brothers and sister and they are very friendly and open. You are looking for excuses for your behaviour.
It can't be that ALL guys drink and do drugs at your school....there are probably boys who don't do any of that and still have friends. You want an instant solution, you want us to tell you to do this or that and that you're going to get a girl in a heartbeat. It's not working like that.... Trenton gave you bunch of advice and yet you still find an excuse for every single thing to say it will not work.
If you are already in shape, with good manners etc then work on your confidence, 'cause your confidence level is low. Also, if you find a girl she won't be 24/7 with you...she has friends and she'll want to spend time with them aswell, and if you don't have any then you'll probably be mad at her and wouldn't understand her...
Find some friends, get out of your house and work on you confidence and stop making excuses.

[Trenton_]

You are still whining....don't do that. Being an only child doesn't mean that you have a disease, I have friends who don't have brothers and sister and they are very friendly and open. You are looking for excuses for your behaviour.
It can't be that ALL guys drink and do drugs at your school....there are probably boys who don't do any of that and still have friends. You want an instant solution, you want us to tell you to do this or that and that you're going to get a girl in a heartbeat. It's not working like that.... Trenton gave you bunch of advice and yet you still find an excuse for every single thing to say it will not work.
If you are already in shape, with good manners etc then work on your confidence, 'cause your confidence level is low. Also, if you find a girl she won't be 24/7 with you...she has friends and she'll want to spend time with them aswell, and if you don't have any then you'll probably be mad at her and wouldn't understand her...
Find some friends, get out of your house and work on you confidence and stop making excuses.

What you wrote is well stated. I really did try to help him, but he doesn't want to change at this time and without change, the situation will continue. What I saw in his responses to my suggestions was excuses, vulgarity and whining - none of which are attractive.

Thank you for your support and seeing my initial sarcasm. Cool for you and me. haha.

As for his personality and me saying he needs a new one? I was only half kidding, but in reading his responses I think he needs counseling or something. Being an only child has zero relevance. None. The vulgarity? You're a girl, how attractive is that? Rhetorical question, so not very attractive. I don't get guys who want girls and can't get them and this guy is the extreme case. To me, no situation is impossible to turn around.

As you said, it takes time and to me that time can be used by any boy or girl to work on themselves and discover new things and what their interests are. To me, that's what makes both guys and girls interesting. When someone is focused on playing a sport or two, they learn a ton and not just about the sport. They learn to "take one for the team" and be about the team and not themselves. That's an awesome quality to have in a guy or girl. It shows selflessness. Kids develop social skills in sports and clubs and school.

This guy, is so negative, it's ... IDK ...I'm lost as to how to make it more clear what he needs to do other than work on himself. That whole friend angle is the key. Guys think they are in the friend zone forever and they aren't. Pretend I'm in the friend zone with you and you look at me as more of a brother than a guy you'd ever even consider dating, to me that's great, that's fine, maybe I even have a thing for you and wish we could date, but I accept that fact and don't sever the relationship. Eventually, maybe... months or years later, you have a friend who is interested in me or you have a friend I'm interested in and you help that along. To me, that's how it works. I don't have friends that are girls so I can date, they are my friends first and foremost, just like with my guy friends and it's kinda the same thing there too. Maybe they have a sister maybe their sister thinks I'm a decent guy, not because I'm acting, but because I'm just being me, and let's say she's a couple years older and some girl event goes on and she mentions me to some other girl etc. etc. etc.

You nailed it with the confidence thing. Absolutely nailed it. To me it's cool when I learn something new about someone that's wayyyyy not what I expecting. Like a girl or guy who might not be that involved in school stuff, but we find out they spend a lot of their free time practicing and competing at ice skating or horse back riding or they are a huge football line backer who paints in water colors or a girl that has a killer 3 point shot in basketball or has been developing a salt water aquarium with all kinds of sea life in it for years and years and we never knew anything about those kinds of things in those peoples lives and they aren't doing it to BE interesting, they're doing it because it interests them and that's what makes us interested in them.

IDK what else to say to this dude other than change your attitude and to go look at our suggestions with an eye towards actually doing those things.

Like, he said the guys in sports are the ones that pick on him. So what? If you play a sport with them, guess what, they won't pick on you anymore. To me, that couldn't be more obvious. Instead, this guy uses the picking on him as an excuse to try. Anyway, thanks for you comment and for trying to help him. I tried. I failed.

[Conqueror of Hearts]

What you wrote is well stated. I really did try to help him, but he doesn't want to change at this time and without change, the situation will continue. What I saw in his responses to my suggestions was excuses, vulgarity and whining - none of which are attractive.

Thank you for your support and seeing my initial sarcasm. Cool for you and me. haha.

As for his personality and me saying he needs a new one? I was only half kidding, but in reading his responses I think he needs counseling or something. Being an only child has zero relevance. None. The vulgarity? You're a girl, how attractive is that? Rhetorical question, so not very attractive. I don't get guys who want girls and can't get them and this guy is the extreme case. To me, no situation is impossible to turn around.

As you said, it takes time and to me that time can be used by any boy or girl to work on themselves and discover new things and what their interests are. To me, that's what makes both guys and girls interesting. When someone is focused on playing a sport or two, they learn a ton and not just about the sport. They learn to "take one for the team" and be about the team and not themselves. That's an awesome quality to have in a guy or girl. It shows selflessness. Kids develop social skills in sports and clubs and school.

This guy, is so negative, it's ... IDK ...I'm lost as to how to make it more clear what he needs to do other than work on himself. That whole friend angle is the key. Guys think they are in the friend zone forever and they aren't. Pretend I'm in the friend zone with you and you look at me as more of a brother than a guy you'd ever even consider dating, to me that's great, that's fine, maybe I even have a thing for you and wish we could date, but I accept that fact and don't sever the relationship. Eventually, maybe... months or years later, you have a friend who is interested in me or you have a friend I'm interested in and you help that along. To me, that's how it works. I don't have friends that are girls so I can date, they are my friends first and foremost, just like with my guy friends and it's kinda the same thing there too. Maybe they have a sister maybe their sister thinks I'm a decent guy, not because I'm acting, but because I'm just being me, and let's say she's a couple years older and some girl event goes on and she mentions me to some other girl etc. etc. etc.

You nailed it with the confidence thing. Absolutely nailed it. To me it's cool when I learn something new about someone that's wayyyyy not what I expecting. Like a girl or guy who might not be that involved in school stuff, but we find out they spend a lot of their free time practicing and competing at ice skating or horse back riding or they are a huge football line backer who paints in water colors or a girl that has a killer 3 point shot in basketball or has been developing a salt water aquarium with all kinds of sea life in it for years and years and we never knew anything about those kinds of things in those peoples lives and they aren't doing it to BE interesting, they're doing it because it interests them and that's what makes us interested in them.

IDK what else to say to this dude other than change your attitude and to go look at our suggestions with an eye towards actually doing those things.

Like, he said the guys in sports are the ones that pick on him. So what? If you play a sport with them, guess what, they won't pick on you anymore. To me, that couldn't be more obvious. Instead, this guy uses the picking on him as an excuse to try. Anyway, thanks for you comment and for trying to help him. I tried. I failed.


Well I don't think we failed...I still hope that after a day or two, or after a week he'll start to take in all these things we told him. I am really amazed how you tried to help him, even when he was like "f... you". I guess he's scared, guess he was never pushed by anyone, nor himself, and now he wants things to change but is still trying to find easy solutions which require little work, but change needs time. He'll figure that out, I hope. You really said everything the way it is and I think those words will open his eyes.

The_one, I wish you all the best and good luck, I really hope you'll realize we all tried to help you. I really wish you not to be mad at life and for you to find friends and to get involved in something and to discover new things about yourself. :)

[clueless_one]

What you wrote is well stated. I really did try to help him, but he doesn't want to change at this time and without change, the situation will continue. What I saw in his responses to my suggestions was excuses, vulgarity and whining - none of which are attractive.

Thank you for your support and seeing my initial sarcasm. Cool for you and me. haha.

As for his personality and me saying he needs a new one? I was only half kidding, but in reading his responses I think he needs counseling or something. Being an only child has zero relevance. None. The vulgarity? You're a girl, how attractive is that? Rhetorical question, so not very attractive. I don't get guys who want girls and can't get them and this guy is the extreme case. To me, no situation is impossible to turn around.

As you said, it takes time and to me that time can be used by any boy or girl to work on themselves and discover new things and what their interests are. To me, that's what makes both guys and girls interesting. When someone is focused on playing a sport or two, they learn a ton and not just about the sport. They learn to "take one for the team" and be about the team and not themselves. That's an awesome quality to have in a guy or girl. It shows selflessness. Kids develop social skills in sports and clubs and school.

This guy, is so negative, it's ... IDK ...I'm lost as to how to make it more clear what he needs to do other than work on himself. That whole friend angle is the key. Guys think they are in the friend zone forever and they aren't. Pretend I'm in the friend zone with you and you look at me as more of a brother than a guy you'd ever even consider dating, to me that's great, that's fine, maybe I even have a thing for you and wish we could date, but I accept that fact and don't sever the relationship. Eventually, maybe... months or years later, you have a friend who is interested in me or you have a friend I'm interested in and you help that along. To me, that's how it works. I don't have friends that are girls so I can date, they are my friends first and foremost, just like with my guy friends and it's kinda the same thing there too. Maybe they have a sister maybe their sister thinks I'm a decent guy, not because I'm acting, but because I'm just being me, and let's say she's a couple years older and some girl event goes on and she mentions me to some other girl etc. etc. etc.

You nailed it with the confidence thing. Absolutely nailed it. To me it's cool when I learn something new about someone that's wayyyyy not what I expecting. Like a girl or guy who might not be that involved in school stuff, but we find out they spend a lot of their free time practicing and competing at ice skating or horse back riding or they are a huge football line backer who paints in water colors or a girl that has a killer 3 point shot in basketball or has been developing a salt water aquarium with all kinds of sea life in it for years and years and we never knew anything about those kinds of things in those peoples lives and they aren't doing it to BE interesting, they're doing it because it interests them and that's what makes us interested in them.

IDK what else to say to this dude other than change your attitude and to go look at our suggestions with an eye towards actually doing those things.

Like, he said the guys in sports are the ones that pick on him. So what? If you play a sport with them, guess what, they won't pick on you anymore. To me, that couldn't be more obvious. Instead, this guy uses the picking on him as an excuse to try. Anyway, thanks for you comment and for trying to help him. I tried. I failed.

I'm not entering any sport because I am concentrating on my school work. Is that really hard for you to get. I am in my final year of school, id rather do assignments, revision and homework instead of spending useless time at training or doing sport every weekend. As for being in a social group, I go to a youth group. As for getting to know new people, why the hell did I ask to be a leader of the damn place after high school, I don't know, so I get confidence to be with other people and to stand in front of a group of people and talk.

I'm not negative. I keep a positive mind in everything. With my studies and with life (especially with the team I like in my favourite sport :p). I also try to be nice, caring and helpful to everyone and everyone give back shit to me. Again this problem where I've asked out a girl, she said yes and then when organising a date she said she was busy and then said she doesn't want to go out with me. Once again I hardly attend and events or parties because no one ever invites me to anything. Even if I get new friends, they still won't invite me which I have tried to do and it has happened.

I am confident. When this girl said yes, my confidence grew telling myself hey its actually not that hard to ask out a girl and get a yes answer. But when she said she was busy and didn't want to go out with me I didn't care because it means she would miss out to be with a nice person (just how I feel).

About the interest thing. Yes there are things I do that I have interest on. Like creating video games, playing video games, creating 3d animations, people just don't seem to care about it though. It just shows people that I have a life and have other things to do. If you don't know, the sport I love I can't even talk about because everyone in my school calls it gay. That also puts a dent in my confidence because its something I enjoy. Something I want to talk about is difficult to because everyone things its gay. Something which makes me unique and interesting, I need to hide away...

About the sports thing. Yes maybe if I join a sports team, other people who I don't know I will get friendly with and have other friends. But the majority of people who annoy me and bully me are part of the teams. Imagine you going to training to try and have fun and leave the bullying from school alone and you get bullied on the ground. What help is that to me, it just puts myself down even more.Also there is the thing about injuries, in my final year of school I don't want to be injured and miss my final exams and risk a bad final mark and going to a shit uni or college. That is important to me.

Maybe if you think i just have excuses, vulgarity and whining. Maybe thats just on this forum. I'm not actually like this in really life. You have not been trying to help me the the one little thing I wanted to know. You now know everything about me the fact I have family problems, the face that always people bully me, the face I don't want to be in sports because I don't want to get injured and ruin my school mark and future, and the face I am nice to everyone and am caring. Again if there was a car crash, I won't care about my own safety, I would only care to help the people in the car crash.

The reason why I now like the girl I like is because of her enjoying the sport I enjoy. Maybe I can help her actually attend matches and spend time with her. The problem now that i've asked out a girl and she has said yes, the news is spread all over the grade and she doesn't actually want to go out with me. Its ruined my chance with any girl, especially this next girl I want to ask out.

Maybe I should just tell her that the girl I asked out was lying about wanting to go out with me. Even then she said "Well tell her if she was lying and if she wants to be in a relationship or has mutual feelings for you and if not move on. But I don't think she would do such a thing" with a said face when saying it. Maybe her saying no was for the best and now I will move on... But she has ruined it for me to try and ask any other girl out from my school who I have interest on. So i'm not sure what to do. All I ask is help in this on small thing. What should I do? That is all I ask for. (You are so difficult at times to get an answer for one small thing and you think its a big thing that all girls don't like me and only as friends and all. I didn't have to tell you all my personality things. Everyone knows now that I have family problems which are only meant to be for me only. But you made me say it. You are trying to say indirectly that I have a problem saying that i'm only excuses, vulgarity and whining. You have a problem not answering the questions of mine)

So i'm not sure what to do. All I ask is help in this on small thing. What should I do? That is all I ask for.

[indoxyl]

this thread has turned so dramatic wow

[nice]

Then what the fuck am I meant to do when i'm interested in a girl. Nothing and some crap shows that they like me saying that they like me and go out with them. Hell Fucking no. I want to be happy in my life and it seems i'm never going to be happy being an only child and with this. With what your saying is that means I will get a shit girlfriend and have a shit life with a girl i'm not attracted to and that will lead to a fucking boring and shit life. DO YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT. So what am I going to do to show girls I like them.



I don't look at girls as property. They need to be respected not some play toy. I respect them. By the way attractiveness is not everything, personality is the main thing, and the personality I have is to be nice and respectful to everyone (which might be why I get bullied but thats just how I am). I don't and never stare at girls ass and boobs. I am pleasant and respectful with perfect hygine, a good hair cut, decent clothes. Alright, I don't play sports, but I try to look after my body. I'm not interesting and can't be interesting because i'm an only child. I can't change that, friends treat me like shit and when I organise things, they don't care about it and never come to anything I organise and no one invite me to anything :(.



Look at the popular guys and copy them. They bully the fuck out of me. So what be a fucking ass to everyone INCLUDING girls which is what they do. What the fuck am I meant to fucking do. These guys treat girls like a toy, I heard a guy ask a girl for a bj, why the fuck do guys say that. Girls are meant to be respected and your saying to copy other guys. Really?



I'm not totally fit. I eat well and I am healthy. What i'm trying to say is that all the guys that have girlfriends play sports. What do I want to do... CONCENTRATE ON SCHOOL WORK. What girl doesn't want a smart guy... I'm not fat at all. By the way all the people who bully me are part of sports teams in the area I live in, so again no friends from there.


Now this is fucked up. I try to get to know a girl. If I like them ask them out, I get rejected and they call me a friend. Ask them out early and they ru away from me. I have no fucking idea how other guys manage to get girlfriends. That is why I say it could be because i'm indian again I'm not attracted to indian girls. So you tell me what i'm meant to do here. Also i'm never invited to any parties. Which is why I say again, I don't have any friend and have difficulty making new friends because everyone treats me like shit.



Well with the way I look at the moment. Lots of girls are talking to me and find me a really nice guy and friendly. Yet I don't understand why girls don't like me in that way. People say take time to get to know girls and then ask them out. I get to know girls and ask them out, they call me a friend and don't like me in that way. I ask girls out too early and they get scared off. What the hell am I meant to do.


I'm kind and nice. If being nice is not manly then tell me.

As I said, i'm nice to everyone and treat everyone with respect. What do I get in return. Shit, nothing, 0. I also do believe i'm funny, many girl have laughed at the jokes i've said and have asked me to say more.

I'm in a reasonable weight range and try to eat well and keep fit. The only thing is I'm not that big in sports, but in my school work. Yet again what girl doesn't want to be with a guy who is hard working or tries hard at school.

I'm polite, and when I need to be firm, I am firm (like with people who bully me, I'm firm to them but don't fight to get out of it. I believe violence like punching and pushing is wrong)

Again what girl doesn't want to be with a guy who doesn't try hard at school to get a good grade. The bullying creates difficulties for me in tying to get great marks. But i'm average.

Yes, I will come out and say i'm not tough. As I said I believe violence is wrong including punching and pushing. What is this a wrong thing.

If there was a car crash, I won't care about my self I will go and help out. If there was a building on fire, I will try and stop it or help people who are in it. So I care and think of others before myself. If my lie is in danger when helping someone else, I won't stop and hesitate, I will actually help anyone.

This again I am an only child and don't really have anything to do. My parents work and I don't have anything to do. Therefore I am a loner. Yes I agree this is a problem, but with a girlfriend I hope I will be with her most of the time. I have also organised things with friends, hardly any come. Maybe the problem is I talk about a sport in the school i'm in which is not big in the state i'm in and they call it gay. I do attend games of the sport I enjoy and also go to a youth group, so if that doesn't make my life a bit interesting that I have no fucking idea on what to make it more interesting.

Again, the friends i'm with all drink and take drugs. All guys drink from my school at this age. I'm concentrating on my school work and wanting to do well in the future so I don't drink yet. With drugs, never touch that shit, will ruin your life. look at the news about teens getting killed taking drugs. Not going to touch drugs and no alcohol until after school.



Also, i'm not going to try and meet people over the internet, I never trust things like that on the internet. I'd rather meet people face to face and see if I like the person being with them physically. So tell me what you seriously think now. What am I going to do. I'm a nice guy and because of one girl. Its ruined my chance with other girls. Also it looks like you think i'm a fucking fat slob, i'm not. If you want to know I walk to and from school.I am interested in creating video games, but yet I do that alone, without anyone(again, i'm an only child and at least is shows I do something and am not alway worried about this).So, Please tell me what am I going to do :cry: please...



I don't want to use any dating sites. They are just crap, you don't trust what you see on the internet. Well thats what i've learnt. I'd rather meet people face to face and see if I like the person being with them physically. So no.

It seems like your hiding behind the fact your Indian and the you're an only child as reasons to why your single. I think that is a big load of bull I know people who are an only child and they have guys/girls all around them. Being an only child just means that you're an only child. You're having such a bad outlook and attitude about it did you ever thin my hat could be a reason why you're single. There are two guys above me that have been giving you some good ass advice and all you been doing is whining and bitching about it. There are girls out there that look for guys similar to you but your so focused on certain girls have you ever stopped and looked at the people they've been with and thought am I her type. Instead of diving head first into a girl you think is cute stop and think what at the other guys like she's dated am I her type. If no then what's the point of going after girls that don't like guys like you. So instead of whining and making excuse think of things YOU could do to fix the situation and things YOU could work on.

[clueless_one]

It seems like your hiding behind the fact your Indian and the you're an only child as reasons to why your single. I think that is a big load of bull I know people who are an only child and they have guys/girls all around them. Being an only child just means that you're an only child. You're having such a bad outlook and attitude about it did you ever thin my hat could be a reason why you're single. There are two guys above me that have been giving you some good ass advice and all you been doing is whining and bitching about it. There are girls out there that look for guys similar to you but your so focused on certain girls have you ever stopped and looked at the people they've been with and thought am I her type. Instead of diving head first into a girl you think is cute stop and think what at the other guys like she's dated am I her type. If no then what's the point of going after girls that don't like guys like you. So instead of whining and making excuse think of things YOU could do to fix the situation and things YOU could work on.

or maybe you can just help answer my question on what I can do. Know what it was a mistake to ask out the girl I asked out. So how can I ask out the other girl that I like now.

[nice]

or maybe you can just help answer my question on what I can do. Know what it was a mistake to ask out the girl I asked out. So how can I ask out the other girl that I like now.

-_- ok whatever my honest opinion is just don't ask her out if you've been wrong the other times what's to stop you from being wrong again??? Just let her ask you out if she likes you then you'll for sure know.

[clueless_one]

-_- ok whatever my honest opinion is just don't ask her out if you've been wrong the other times what's to stop you from being wrong again??? Just let her ask you out if she likes you then you'll for sure know.

girls always like guys to make the first move. I have not been wrong the other times, they have shown me signs of liking me, I take it and try to get the guts to ask them out. But by the time I do, I scare them away because they look at me as a friend. So I have to ask her out if I feel she likes me.

What if I get a funny relaxed feeling when I think of her. Isn't that my gut feeling because that is what is happening.

Also, by you telling me to wait, that is one way to never get a girlfriend.

[MoonMan]

You have dismissed almost every piece of advice given on this thread. I honestly don't see the point of asking people for help if you're not willing to be open to suggestions. You believe dating sites are stupid, sports are useless, it's impossible to have an interesting personality if you're an only child, girls are just fucked up and don't like you because you're Indian etc. Worst of all, you show hostility towards people who have done nothing but try and help with something that's completely electable as advice. If you truly believe your fate on this world is set in stone to be single thanks to said reasons, what do you want us to do about it exactly? We can give you advice until we're blue in the face, but none of it matters unless you choose to actually try acting upon it instead of shooting everything down and dismissing it. It seems like this is going nowhere very fast.

[unnamed94]

this thread has turned so dramatic wow

hahahahahah i know right i just read all of it

im going to write as less as i can because its really late here
completely agree with this guy nice: you just cant hide on the fact that you are indian or a only child and use that as an excuse.

take the damn advice everyone here is giving you, specially trenton and this other girl (too lazy to look the name up). you just seem to find a reason to dismiss everything they say and find an excuse about everything. it seems to me you are just waiting for someone to tell you exactly what you want to hear (which is what happened with a lot of your threads for a lot of weeks now, which is why i simply stopped paying attention to them)

if you just keep focusing on your grades and stuff how can you expect things to change regarding your social life? get into a club, some sports team, even the dating website someone suggested. find people with similar interests and develop a friendship. every relationship you will ever have will start out as you two being friends.

on your problem with the girl you asked out: ask her about it. how should we know why she first said yes and then no? if she says she doesnt want to go on a date anymore then what can you do? that shouldnt stop you from asking out another girl you are interested in.

probably missed a lot of points here. if you are just going to nit pick (idk if this is the right word) everything i said im done with this thread. good luck and dont lose hope on making a change in your life or getting a girlfriend (ending up with a girlfriend who you wont like which will in turn mean you will have a boring life, honestly doesnt make any sense)

[Kmart2103]

I’ve given up all together with trying to get a girlfriend. One of my friends (who is a girl and had a boyfriend) said ‘you are a really nice guy and I can’t believe you don’t have a girlfriend and must try to get one for you before formal’. It seems that all the girls I’ve liked never like me back or in that way. I’m indian and it seems to me that due to the racial stereotypes of indian people stink and also things that occur in the media with indian people girl will think that I’m like that. I’m not attracted to indian girls (don’t tell me to go for indian girls, I’m attracted to non-indian girls and that’s just the way I am).

The first girl I liked only smiled and should have been obvious that when she called me a good friend, she looked at me as a friend. I asked her out and she rejected me right up.

The second girl I liked seemed to ask questions about me a lot and seemed to enjoy my company. The news about me liking circulated all over the grade and she know I liked her and herd that I wanted to ask her out. I did it over facebook and she rejected me all together.

The third girl I only told that I liked her and that was it. (Found out her real personality and didn’t like it)

The fourth girl I asked out and she said yes and when making a date she says she is busy. I even herd her say that she will not go out with me (her loss). But the news circled the grade that I asked her out and now everyone knows that she stood me up.

The fifth girl was friends with the forth girl and told me she is disappointed that I didn’t ask her out.

The sixth girl has now been showing me signs of liking me.

She knows I asked out girl four and was surprised saying that I have a girlfriend.

Signs she likes me

She looks at me a few times

She talks to me and asks questions about my life (If I have brother or sisters)

She touched/tapped my arm and back when she was telling me something

She also enjoys the sport I like and the girl I asked out doesn’t really talk about the sport.

We were talking in a group and I did something and she said we have to have dinner before we go there and was laughing/smiling

So, I don’t know what to do. I feel girls like me and my gut tells me they like me but it never seems to go my way. I’m also an only child with family problems and bullies (again mostly because I’m indian). Due to these problems I want to talk to someone I trust who can talk to me, but It just seems that no girl would ever what to be with me due to what is now happening. Is it because of looks or fitness? The boys who bully me are in the school rugby team and all seem to have girlfriends. Only a few of them are nice. I know I don’t have good looks and I’m not really fit but I’m nice to every one. Should I become a bad ass? I try to be nice to everyone, it seems that all girls i've seen go for the bad guys in my school. (seriously I don't understand...) But due to being nice it seems every time bad comes back to me. People tell the teachers on me they all annoy me and blame me for doing things they even call me black (I tell them i'm not and that theres a difference)

I’m seriously unsure what to do. I’m scared that even if I go and ask out girl six (the girl who is after the girl who said that she is disappointed I didn’t ask her out) she will also say no. What should I do :( :cry:

Mate, I'm Indian as well so I'm in the same boat as you.

A year back I had a girl I liked and she was not the same ethnicity as I was which was the main block in me asking her out. When I found out she liked me back I realised that my families traditions would not allow for me to date her & so I told her and well we tried to stay friends but it felt too awkward. So I told her and I suggested that we don't talk to each other (To let me forget). But even now I still kinda remember her. Haven't been able to flirt with another girl since then.

But the more I think about the more I think that I just used my parents as an excuse 'cos i was scared to start dating.:whoops:

[clueless_one]

Mate, I'm Indian as well so I'm in the same boat as you.

A year back I had a girl I liked and she was not the same ethnicity as I was which was the main block in me asking her out. When I found out she liked me back I realised that my families traditions would not allow for me to date her & so I told her and well we tried to stay friends but it felt too awkward. So I told her and I suggested that we don't talk to each other (To let me forget). But even now I still kinda remember her. Haven't been able to flirt with another girl since then.

But the more I think about the more I think that I just used my parents as an excuse 'cos i was scared to start dating.:whoops:

My parents have been fairly supportive. With the first girl I liked was white, my parents said ask her out and see what happens. After I asked her out, she said no and the time went on and she found other white boys and went out with them. At that point my parents said that I will end up with a indian girl and white girls are not attracted to indians. As I entered high school and found other girls and asked them out, what my parents were saying became a lot more clear to me. But just recently when I asked out a girl and she said yes but said she was lying, other white girls started to tell me that they liked me and didn't want to talk to me because I asked another girl out or they were upset that I asked out another girl. That is when I thought that my parents were wrong, there are some white girls who like me. But because with what my parents said, it avoided me from taking any action.

So, the reason of me being indian is not a problem anymore. Its the reason of me being an only child or maybe being nice to everyone :what:.

Girls: Is a nice guy a turn off to you in relationships? Would you rather a nice guy or a guy who is an ass?