Was Jezus a socialist?

[tovaris]

He promoted equal rights, shaing, giving food to the poor (acorthing to the book).
So whats your opinion?

[Walter Powers]

No, equal rights means being rewarded fairly for your work. Communism takes from the hard working and gives to the lazy; I'm not Christian, but I texted my Christian friend about this. He said Jesus would hate the idea of socialism, especially since most socialists want to remove religion from people's lives.

[tovaris]

No, equal rights means being rewarded fairly for your work. Communism takes from the hard working and gives to the lazy; I'm not Christian, but I texted my Christian friend about this. He said Jesus would hate the idea of socialism, especially since most socialists want to remove religion from people's lives.

The Cristian Socialists think otherwhise... Ever read the Bible or the Quran?
Try not to mix up communism and socialism, nether wants to forcefuly get rid of religion.

[Walter Powers]

The Cristian Socialists think otherwhise... Ever read the Bible or the Quran?
Try not to mix up communism and socialism, nether wants to forcefuly get rid of religion.

Really? Can you give me an example of a communist state where people were free to practice any religion they wish?

[Camazotz]

No, the concept of communism wasn't even created yet, and he had no intention of carrying out any of its ideals. He was simply altruistic.

[tovaris]

Really? Can you give me an example of a communist state where people were free to practice any religion they wish?

So you agree that we have Christian Socialists who see the preatings of Jesus an socialist...

Can you give me an example of a country which has installed a communist system?

[Harry Smith]

No Jesus wasn't a socialist at all, socialism hadn't even been created. I doubt Jesus wanted to nationalize the industries back then

[tovaris]

No Jesus wasn't a socialist at all, socialism hadn't even been created. I doubt Jesus wanted to nationalize the industries back then

I mean in his basic ideas, not practice.

[Harry Smith]

I mean in his basic ideas, not practice.

No. Socialims doesn't refer to your life choices, it's to do with politics. Just because I give someone charity doesn't make me a socialist

[tovaris]

No. Socialims doesn't refer to your life choices, it's to do with politics. Just because I give someone charity doesn't make me a socialist

Not charety the worl view,
What is your opinion on cristian socialists?

[Harry Smith]

Not charety the worl view,
What is your opinion on cristian socialists?

He didn't have a world view, he lead a religion. How stupid are you?

[tovaris]

He didn't have a world view, he lead a religion. How stupid are you?

No he was religious (Jew to be precise) but his teachings can be understood as socialist.

[Harry Smith]

No he was religious (Jew to be precise) but his teachings can be understood as socialist.

No they can't.

The foundation of socialism is

''Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy. "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, or citizen ownership of equity. There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.

Yes or no did Jesus advocate ownership of the the economy?

[tovaris]

No they can't.

The foundation of socialism is

''Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy. "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, or citizen ownership of equity. There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.

Yes or no did Jesus advocate ownership of the the economy?

So in your opinion of Christian Socialists...?
Not economie pre say, but baskets of food that magical feed enormous crwds, stuff like that

[Harry Smith]

So in your opinion of Christian Socialists...?
Not economie pre say, but baskets of food that magical feed enormous crwds, stuff like that

That's not socialism, I know many devout conservatives who work for charities and hand out food to homeless people, that doesn't make them a socialist.

I don't really give a fuck about christian socialists, religion and politics don't mix, if you want to be a socialist great but I don't see how god comes into it at all when the core of socialism is to do with industry

[tovaris]

That's not socialism, I know many devout conservatives who work for charities and hand out food to homeless people, that doesn't make them a socialist.

I don't really give a fuck about christian socialists, religion and politics don't mix, if you want to be a socialist great but I don't see how god comes into it at all when the core of socialism is to do with industry

Interesting view.
Finaly i got a structured opinion out of you.

[Harry Smith]

Interesting view.
Finaly i got a structured opinion out of you.

You can't really lecture me when your the one who asked if Jesus was a socialist...

[tovaris]

You can't really lecture me when your the one who asked if Jesus was a socialist...

I personally don't believe he was one, I only think that the ideas of socialism and Christianity do not conflict and are contactable; but I don't think they can really be joined into one, just see no reason why Christians would oppose socialists.

[Harry Smith]

I personally don't believe he was one, I only think that the ideas of socialism and Christianity do not conflict and are contactable; but I don't think they can really be joined into one, just see no reason why Christians would oppose socialists.

Then why did you post a question about it if you had no doubts at all?

[tovaris]

Then why did you post a question about it if you had no doubts at all?

Isn't it obvious, to see other people's opinion.

[Harry Smith]

Isn't it obvious, to see other people's opinion.

But there is not debate in the question, it's like having a debate if 1+1=2

It's a closed question, it wasn't even about Christianity and socialism, you asked if a figure who was born about 1900 before socialism was one, that's just retarded

[tovaris]

But there is not debate in the question, it's like having a debate if 1+1=2



That is debatable depends if you are talking in maths, philosophy or biology
1+1=2 (maths)
1+1=1 (philosophy)
1+1=3~5+ (biology)

[Harry Smith]

That is debatable depends if you are talking in maths, filosofy or biology
1+1=2 (maths)
1+1=1 (filosofie)
1+1=3~5+ (biology)

What is filosfie?

If Harry has one apple and john gives him an apple how many apples does harry have...

[tovaris]

What is filosfie?

If Harry has one apple and john gives him an apple how many apples does harry have...

philosophy

When two people meet and are attracted to echother, they might go to the nearest bedroom and become one, but that might have consequences in nine months by resulting in a another human being.

[Harry Smith]

philosophy

When two people meet and are attracted to echother, they might go to the nearest bedroom and become one, but that might have consequences in nine months by resulting in a another human being.

They done become one physically that's stupid, yes there cells produce a Zygote but the two people still remain. There bodies don't fuse to become one person.

I'm still certain that if 1+1 came up in a maths test you wouldn't write about sex, you must be a troll

I can't be bothered with this anymore, we've established that Jesus wasn't a socialist which refers to the question in the title

[tovaris]

They done become one physically that's stupid, yes there cells produce a Zygote but the two people still remain. There bodies don't fuse to become one person.

I'm still certain that if 1+1 came up in a maths test you wouldn't write about sex, you must be a troll

I can't be bothered with this anymore, we've established that Jesus wasn't a socialist which refers to the question in the title

Yes he wasn't, he coluden't have been, the definitio of xocialism did t exist back than.

[Azunite]

No, equal rights means being rewarded fairly for your work. Communism takes from the hard working and gives to the lazy; I'm not Christian, but I texted my Christian friend about this. He said Jesus would hate the idea of socialism, especially since most socialists want to remove religion from people's lives.


Socialism and Communism are not the same things. Geez

Every humane person is a socialist, since he or she would want everybody to be equal, would want to share, would want to help those who are in need of help.

[britishboy]

Socialism and Communism are not the same things. Geez

Every humane person is a socialist, since he or she would want everybody to be equal, would want to share, would want to help those who are in need of help.

im not

[Harry Smith]

im not

Which one, humane or socialist?

[Azunite]

im not

Not politically, no. But in terms of human phsycology I do hope that you are a socialist.

Socialist = Someone who supports the state of social, society, etc. That includes the things I have listed.

[britishboy]

Not politically, no. But in terms of human phsycology I do hope that you are a socialist.

Socialist = Someone who supports the state of social, society, etc. That includes the things I have listed.

the socialism you described is like communism, everyones equal? its impossible!

[tovaris]

the socialism you described is like communism, everyones equal? its impossible!

socialism, ans social somethings, have such a lose definition you can realy spkn around the term

[Sugaree]

Maybe it's best to view Christ as an altruistic individual and not tie him to any one particular modern day political/economic view. But no, for some people in this thread, we have to have these debates to further some irrelevant cause in the world. Seriously, grow up or shut up about Communism and Socialism.

[Origami]

Maybe it's best to view Christ as an altruistic individual and not tie him to any one particular modern day political/economic view. But no, for some people in this thread, we have to have these debates to further some irrelevant cause in the world. Seriously, grow up or shut up about Communism and Socialism.

/thread

[StoppingTime]

Maybe it's best to view Christ as an altruistic individual and not tie him to any one particular modern day political/economic view. But no, for some people in this thread, we have to have these debates to further some irrelevant cause in the world. Seriously, grow up or shut up about Communism and Socialism.

/all the arguments

This debate isn't a reasonable, logical debate. There aren't two sides - just people spouting random facts that may or may not be facts to prove their personal opinions.

[Walter Powers]

Socialism and Communism are not the same things. Geez

Every humane person is a socialist, since he or she would want everybody to be equal, would want to share, would want to help those who are in need of help.

Every human is a socialist? That's just nonsense.

Socialism is the most UNFAIR economic system because it doesn't reward success and hard work. Why should a doctor who had to succeed in 10 years of medical school be making the same amount of cash as a fast food cashier? The only people who benefit from a socialist society are the dictators on top. It creates the biggest income inequity possible.

The bottom line is people won't contribute to the economy if they aren't rewarded for doing so or punished for not; this is why socialist societies are so unproductive.

I think you just haven't been exposed to the power of the individual in a true free market system. Have you ever been to the United States, the hearth and origin of modern capitalism?

[Appypollylogges]

No, the concept of communism wasn't even created yet, and he had no intention of carrying out any of its ideals. He was simply altruistic.

Exactly.
What he preached had nothing to do with economics, it was just about doing the right thing.

[TheBigUnit]

LISTEN!!!! Jesus was not a socialist in terms at all, his parable of talents pretty much sums it all