Syria: Should He Leave?

[Azunite]

I know that a giant shitstorm will come due to what I am going to say, but I'm gonna say it anyway:


In my opinion, he must stay.

Of course I would want him to stay in a situation where he would stop killing people and return back to normal. See what happened to Libya? Gaddafi was removed. He was a tyrant, true, but then the Allah-Allah people (the Extremists) took over and now believe me they won't be any modern.


The same thing happened to Egypt as well.

On the other hand, Assad saw eduaction in West. See how he wears a tie? Yes sir he is the only Muslim leader to wear a tie. Sure, there are differences between his belief (Shia) and his people (Sunni Islam) but come on, who cares? The goal should not be to create a religious bond between people, that is primitive and offensive.

If he is "dethroned", then Syria will fall into a conservative darkness, just like the others. The so called "Free Syrian Army" is not united. When Assad leaves, then another civil war will break out between various clans. This will not happen of course if the Extremists will seize the power with an iron fist.

The Free Syrian Army is not respected, and will not be able to rule the country. Do you want to know what the next step will be? Proxy wars. Pro-Assad groups will clash with the FSA, and the next thing you know it is another war between the US and Russia.


I know rants like "But he is a monarch, not someone who was chosen by the people!" will come, but come on: The British did not choose Elizabeth. And I am pretty sure Norway is happy with their King. Also, a Republic isn't always the right thing for people. If a whole nation is apolitical and not well educated, then it is unwise for one of these ignorant citizens to become a presidents. Not to mention that a republic is simply very exploitable (see the Muslim Extremist example above).

If Assad is a modern, western ruler, then he should stay there.

[britishboy]

I think both sides are commiting war crimes, this is what must be stopped, it the French president done this, would we invade? no, we would warn him and ask him to stop, I suspect the tones of oil pouring from the ground, the vulnerable rebel government that will be set up and the gratefulness to the countries that supported them is making them get involved

[Gigablue]

I'm split on this issue. Assad is clearly horrible. He has comitted numerous war crimes and he should have to face justice. At the same time, if he is overthrown, Syria will be ruled by Islamic extremists. There really isn't an easy answer to this.

[Harry Smith]

I know that a giant shitstorm will come due to what I am going to say, but I'm gonna say it anyway:


In my opinion, he must stay.

Of course I would want him to stay in a situation where he would stop killing people and return back to normal. See what happened to Libya? Gaddafi was removed. He was a tyrant, true, but then the Allah-Allah people (the Extremists) took over and now believe me they won't be any modern.


The same thing happened to Egypt as well.

On the other hand, Assad saw eduaction in West. See how he wears a tie? Yes sir he is the only Muslim leader to wear a tie. Sure, there are differences between his belief (Shia) and his people (Sunni Islam) but come on, who cares? The goal should not be to create a religious bond between people, that is primitive and offensive.

If he is "dethroned", then Syria will fall into a conservative darkness, just like the others. The so called "Free Syrian Army" is not united. When Assad leaves, then another civil war will break out between various clans. This will not happen of course if the Extremists will seize the power with an iron fist.

The Free Syrian Army is not respected, and will not be able to rule the country. Do you want to know what the next step will be? Proxy wars. Pro-Assad groups will clash with the FSA, and the next thing you know it is another war between the US and Russia.


I know rants like "But he is a monarch, not someone who was chosen by the people!" will come, but come on: The British did not choose Elizabeth. And I am pretty sure Norway is happy with their King. Also, a Republic isn't always the right thing for people. If a whole nation is apolitical and not well educated, then it is unwise for one of these ignorant citizens to become a presidents. Not to mention that a republic is simply very exploitable (see the Muslim Extremist example above).

If Assad is a modern, western ruler, then he should stay there.

We need a peace conference between both sides, otherwise it will just turn into Angola again. Assad needs to go though, I can't see him staying on in a peaceful Syria, he has too much blood on his hands

[Stronk Serb]

Uhhhh, a hard decision. The blood-handed monarch, or the Jihadists who would stab me for not being Muslim. I would choose Assad if there is no other alternative. But he should be under UN supervision. It should be stated in the peace terms.

[Human]

A lot of the FSA consists of semi al-Qaeda units.
There isn't really a way to solve the crisis, we can leave it and let millions die, or go in there, liberate the people and then let terrorism and civil war ravage the country. How would we find and destroy all the weapons?

[Stronk Serb]

A lot of the FSA consists of semi al-Qaeda units.
There isn't really a way to solve the crisis, we can leave it and let millions die, or go in there, liberate the people and then let terrorism and civil war ravage the country. How would we find and destroy all the weapons?

Neither way. If you swoop in, the "liberators" would probably have those same chemical weapons pointed their way. To be honest, Assad should stay but be under permanent UN observation. If he fucks up, well... Off to Hague he will go,Yugoslav war criminals should like a new friend in prison.

[Azunite]

Neither way. If you swoop in, the "liberators" would probably have those same chemical weapons pointed their way. To be honest, Assad should stay but be under permanent UN observation. If he fucks up, well... Off to Hague he will go,Yugoslav war criminals should like a new friend in prison.

You all say he should be under UN supervision.

So if he does something against the UN, he will be taken from his position. So? Someone else will take over, namely the Extremists.

[Stronk Serb]

You all say he should be under UN supervision.

So if he does something against the UN, he will be taken from his position. So? Someone else will take over, namely the Extremists.

Well, I don't know. Still, better him then the extremists.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

It's a tough call. The Syrian government seems to be getting the upper hand now, but there's still no clear end in sight, it could still go both ways. Even if he wins the war, I can't see Assad staying in power, not after everything he's done. But even a merciless dictator is better than having another country torn apart by dozens of militia groups like in Libya, or seeing Al-Qaeda sink it's claws even deeper.

Either way, we can't let this go on for much longer and risk destabilizing the entire region. We shouldn't be thinking of another invasion, seeing as how we still have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Also, we shouldn't risk straining relations with Russia and China by helping the rebels in any way. There are only two things we can do: let it burn till it snuffs itself out, or try to solve this through diplomatic means.