Talk about Inequality.

[Nathanator]

I created a video for how I believe inequality is still an issue, and I want to hear some other opinions on the topic. What do you feel can be done to create an equal standard of living? Do you believe everyone is treated equally? If you want more ideas then I suggest watching or listening to my video for a quick and easy informative reference to get a good idea of what to talk about. Let me hear your opinions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWC-WdfDuc

[Twilly F. Sniper]

I don't believe everyone is treated equally, sadly, even in the United States.
Even though complete equality is impossible, the equality of the world's people can still become feasibly better, even though most equality issues that can be fixed by laws only exist in poorer African or Arabian countries.

[Stronk Serb]

There is no equality. Not social, nor economical, and the latter will pobably never happen.

[Sugaree]

Equality is not totally possible. Everyone should know this. Equality can only be taught, but never enforced.

[Nathanator]

Along with the idea that everyone is entitled to have their own opinion, I assume equality falls under the category of 'opinion'. Do any of you think that learning more about equality during primary education and how to fight for it as individuals and as a community can help enforce the idea of equality, or at least support it?

[teen.jpg]

I WISH everyone was equal. But we aren't.

[Pinkamena]

As a subscriber to social Darwinism and biological/genetic determinism, I personally don't believe total equality is as important as many make it out to be.
I'm not saying equality isn't important, but other issues deserve more concern. Income equality is a big problem in the US, with CEOs making, I believe, 300x the wage of their employees, which is far above any other country in the world's.

[Jakers61]

Inequality is just part of life. It always has been and it always will be. Just gotta get with the program and flow with it.

[Jess]

Nope, not everyone is treated equally :/

[Nathanator]

Clearly there are more problems, yes! There are some problems that seem to be really hurting the availability of happiness in people's lives, whether it's unemployment or availability of food. There are some issues, like inequality, that, if we all 'flow with it', will always be hurting someone. Inequality is an unstructured issue where it's baffling to think that it is an issue in the first place. Why is it an issue? Because of the incapability to have an open mind, or however you want to perceive it. So what can we do about it? We can step outside of our bubbles of life for single moments to 'flow against' the acts of inequality. How do you all think you can take action in a small way to show that you at least support the equality of the people around you? How can you step outside of your bubble of life?

[britishboy]

colour and gender is no longer an issue

[tovaris]

Equalety is necesary is we want to survive as a race, that is why we should instal a new sistem a sistem of equals.

[Sugaree]

Equalety is necesary is we want to survive as a race, that is why we should instal a new sistem a sistem of equals.

You can't just force equality and call it true equality. True equality only comes when people accept others for who they are. Legislating it doesn't work.

[tovaris]

You can't just force equality and call it true equality. True equality only comes when people accept others for who they are. Legislating it doesn't work.

That is what communism is about true equalety, where people accept others.

[LouBerry]

As a subscriber to social Darwinism and biological/genetic determinism, I personally don't believe total equality is as important as many make it out to be.
I'm not saying equality isn't important, but other issues deserve more concern. Income equality is a big problem in the US, with CEOs making, I believe, 300x the wage of their employees, which is far above any other country in the world's.

No offence, but you're a boy. You most likely don't understand the need for equality. Are you aware, for instance, that although we make up approximately half of the population, the U.S. Congress is only 18% female? I plan on running for Senate some day, and did you know that most of my own family and church family will not vote for me? Not because they don't believe in my platform, or because they think someone else could do better, but because I'm a woman. That has to change. Also, How is it right that people like my best friend can't be with the guy they want to be with because he's black and her father wouldn't allow it. Equality is VERY important.

colour and gender is no longer an issue


^Read my story up there and tell me that is fair and equal.

[Harry Smith]

That is what communism is about true equalety, where people accept others.

Lool always the politician

[Sugaree]

That is what communism is about true equalety, where people accept others.

Yeah, they're forced to accept others through law. You can't just force people to bend over to one will.

[tovaris]

Lool always the politician

Do you have a better solution?
Yeah, they're forced to accept others through law. You can't just force people to bend over to one will.

No its the other way aroind law is created because people have evolved (in a communist society) and therefore force the pen of law to write to thrir desire of equalety.

[Harry Smith]

Do you have a better solution?

Yes, not trying to convert everyone to a system which has less than 1% of the votes in the UK

[Sugaree]

No its the other way aroind law is created because people have evolved (in a communist society) and therefore force the pen of law to write to thrir desire of equalety.

This is totally in theory though; in practice, Communism has done nothing but destroy millions of lives and ruin economies in its wake.

[Nathanator]

Very interesting points being made here. I just wanted to pop in and say that maybe the law isn't the only power in this situation. Clearly, the only thing that governments have done is limit what people can outwardly express about their feelings towards another different wau of life, like gender, race or sexuality. Even if you don't believe it is an issue anymore, what would you do if you experienced or witnessed an act of discrimination? The actions you take that can influence the people around you is what matters, no matter if there are laws controlling the issue.

[tovaris]

Very interesting points being made here. I just wanted to pop in and say that maybe the law isn't the only power in this situation. Clearly, the only thing that governments have done is limit what people can outwardly express about their feelings towards another different wau of life, like gender, race or sexuality. Even if you don't believe it is an issue anymore, what would you do if you experienced or witnessed an act of discrimination? The actions you take that can influence the people around you is what matters, no matter if there are laws controlling the issue.

Whel the law tries to make us equal but without a change in so,iety that will not happen.

[Nathanator]

So as a society, we are obligated to enforce the changes that we wish to see.

[Bougainvillea]

We may be obligated, but there is only so much society can do.

No matter what there will always be some type of inequality, and that inequality can be either economic, or someone's dream of racial purity.

Communism, to work, would pretty much need the whole world to put in the effort. Which is obviously not what everyone wants, and the people who don't want it (saying that happens) could be seen as not equal because of their disagreements, and possibly even anarchist behavior. Whereas already in the capitalistic system, economic inequality is definitely acceptable, because its the engine of production. So the political organizations, and the state have to guarantee this inequality, because theoretically, inequality brings richness.

[Walter Powers]

I created a video for how I believe inequality is still an issue, and I want to hear some other opinions on the topic. What do you feel can be done to create an equal standard of living? Do you believe everyone is treated equally? If you want more ideas then I suggest watching or listening to my video for a quick and easy informative reference to get a good idea of what to talk about. Let me hear your opinions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmWC-WdfDuc

Nice job on your video.

I think that people should be equal, but to a point. I think that you should have the same opportunities regardless of things like race and gender, which you can't change, however people who work hard, keep fit and such desearve better treatment. That's fair.

But my question to you is: What would you suggest be done about inequality?

I notice inequality in that my car insurance costs will higher because I'm male and therefor irresponsible and reckless.

[Walter Powers]

colour and gender is no longer an issue

In America they still are; we have politicians pushing for "Affirmative action" laws that discriminate against white people and male people.

[Walter Powers]

As a subscriber to social Darwinism and biological/genetic determinism, I personally don't believe total equality is as important as many make it out to be.
I'm not saying equality isn't important, but other issues deserve more concern. Income equality is a big problem in the US, with CEOs making, I believe, 300x the wage of their employees, which is far above any other country in the world's.

US companies are also generally far larger then any other countries around the world. It makes sense they make more money, because a larger amount of people rely on them to do a good job.

[Walter Powers]

This is totally in theory though; in practice, Communism has done nothing but destroy millions of lives and ruin economies in its wake.

Totally, 100% agree. Before coming on to this site, I didn't realize they're was anybody with Internet access that actually subscribed to this garbage!

[Walter Powers]

The solution to people's pre-defined bias is privately funded activism which discourages stereotyping. Adding government regulations that try to force people to "treat" everyone equally is only giving more power to politicians to be raciest and sexist or homophobic.

[Nathanator]

Nice job on your video.

I think that people should be equal, but to a point. I think that you should have the same opportunities regardless of things like race and gender, which you can't change, however people who work hard, keep fit and such desearve better treatment. That's fair.

But my question to you is: What would you suggest be done about inequality?

I notice inequality in that my car insurance costs will higher because I'm male and therefor irresponsible and reckless.

You make some very interesting points about this issue. I think that fighting for personal achievement and excellence should be defined by an individuals efforts, not their looks, their race, gender or even the companies they invest in. Communism doesn't properly achieve that, and although Democracy attempts this, there is less control over the amount that an individual can personally control, as specifically seen with the distribution of wealth in the United States. Thus, I don't think that a government has much influence in what we can do for reaching equality among all it's categories. It really is the small things that allow the big changes to occur. Inequality is an issue that doesn't deserve governmental or societal attention, and us as humans should not be trying to fight for it. It just is, and that's that. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't take it upon ourselves to live as if everything is equal. This requires us to step outside of our bubbles of life at any point in time to support the morals of equality. An example could be either getting to know your neighbors who are of an obviously different race, or income group, and treat them as a human. Another example would be to even just donate a bit of your income to whatever organization, and then advertise that you donated by simply making a Facebook status about it or what have you. The more we take the initiative as individuals, the more people will follow the morals of those leaders, and together we'd be able to release bias and discrimination from our small social groups, to town communities, to the legislature, to the country, to the world. There are bigger efforts that people can take if the issue if prominent, like writing letters, petitioning, speaking in public, or actively supporting those whom you see discriminated. Sorry for the rant, but I hope it's an informative read for people. Like even this forum post is a great way to actively support the ideas of equality, because it's a community that can learn about the issue, and spread the morals in how they act in everyday life, which is amazing because there are a lot of diverse people in these forums.

[Walter Powers]

You make some very interesting points about this issue. I think that fighting for personal achievement and excellence should be defined by an individuals efforts, not their looks, their race, gender or even the companies they invest in. Communism doesn't properly achieve that, and although Democracy attempts this, there is less control over the amount that an individual can personally control, as specifically seen with the distribution of wealth in the United States. Thus, I don't think that a government has much influence in what we can do for reaching equality among all it's categories. It really is the small things that allow the big changes to occur. Inequality is an issue that doesn't deserve governmental or societal attention, and us as humans should not be trying to fight for it. It just is, and that's that. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't take it upon ourselves to live as if everything is equal. This requires us to step outside of our bubbles of life at any point in time to support the morals of equality. An example could be either getting to know your neighbors who are of an obviously different race, or income group, and treat them as a human. Another example would be to even just donate a bit of your income to whatever organization, and then advertise that you donated by simply making a Facebook status about it or what have you. The more we take the initiative as individuals, the more people will follow the morals of those leaders, and together we'd be able to release bias and discrimination from our small social groups, to town communities, to the legislature, to the country, to the world. There are bigger efforts that people can take if the issue if prominent, like writing letters, petitioning, speaking in public, or actively supporting those whom you see discriminated. Sorry for the rant, but I hope it's an informative read for people. Like even this forum post is a great way to actively support the ideas of equality, because it's a community that can learn about the issue, and spread the morals in how they act in everyday life, which is amazing because there are a lot of diverse people in these forums.

Good response...you have some good points in here. Oh, and this isn't a rant; it's a perfectly acceptable argument. A rant is just yelling and swearing at people and not being logical. An argument is a statement of your position and why. This here is an argument.

[Nathanator]

I re-uploaded a revised version of the same video if anyone is interested. http://youtu.be/kai2DmMRiG0

[yviedarling]

Let me clarify beforehand; I am not racist against anybody. If I don't like someone it is because of my own personal experience with that person or what I have noted about that person.
People are probably going to get mad at this, whatever.

I believe the people who have the most hate towards them nowadays, are white people, ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS.
You know why I think that? Because everytime I say that, people get mad. "WHAT? THE WHITE PEOPLE? REALLY? CHRISTIANS?! THEY'RE THE HATERS!! THEY HATE EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING! AND THEY'RE RACIST! BALRHGSIGSAIRG!"

That is racially and religiously profiling, young sirs (or misses). I try not to profile anyone, or treat them differently just because of where they come from, but even I judge sometimes.

But anyway, a great example of this is our dear President. As much as people would hate to admit it, the main reason Obama won is fear of being called racist. He would have won no matter what. Why? Because the other main candidate was white. If both candidates were black, then it would have been fair.

Another good example of this is when someone says they're a "good" christian, as in, they're christian but they believe in abortion and gay rights.
The fact you have to clarify being a good christian or not a certain type of christian means that you automatically expect people to think of being christian as a bad thing, which means you're acknowledging the bias towards them.

Of course there are the other "classic" inequalities, too. But this one has gotten ridiculous over time and I thought it was time to talk about it

[comical]

I believe the people who have the most hate towards them nowadays, are white people, ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS.
You know why I think that? Because everytime I say that, people get mad. "WHAT? THE WHITE PEOPLE? REALLY? CHRISTIANS?! THEY'RE THE HATERS!! THEY HATE EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING! AND THEY'RE RACIST! BALRHGSIGSAIRG!"


Karma is a pain, isn't it? Jk.. Although I do see where you're coming from, I'd be damned if I believe that they're they get the most hate when they're the ones that send it off.
see: stormfront.org; (stormfront.org)Westboro Baptist Church

But anyway, a great example of this is our dear President. As much as people would hate to admit it, the main reason Obama won is fear of being called racist. He would have won no matter what. Why? Because the other main candidate was white. If both candidates were black, then it would have been fair.

Honestly I hate when people claim this. Yeah, there would be some uninformed American claiming that it was racist if Obama had lost, just as there are people claiming the Illuminati is real and the world is flat. When Shirley Chisholm and Jessie Jackson ran for presidency and lost, no one made a big deal about it. With Shirley Chisholm's candidacy being shortly after the CRM, it may or may not have had some racial issues with it, but I think that her lack of major campaigning as well as some of her views declined her chances. If people feared they would of been called racist, they really need to let go of their insecurities.

Another good example of this is when someone says they're a "good" christian, as in, they're christian but they believe in abortion and gay rights.
The fact you have to clarify being a good christian or not a certain type of christian means that you automatically expect people to think of being christian as a bad thing, which means you're acknowledging the bias towards them.
I agree with this, now that you said it. I've never thought about it like this..

[CyrustheGreat]

Sadly, equality is impossible, because there will always be a person/group of people that think they are better than everyone else, and deserve more, and better, andblah-de-blah. Like slavery: blacks arent slaves, but we still treat them differently, even if it is in a good way or not.

[Capto]

lololololol egalitarianism.

Interesting, but honestly a joke.

[comical]

Like slavery: blacks arent slaves, but we still treat them differently, even if it is in a good way or not.

A good way? Lol, they just turned the physical chains into mental, financial and institutional ones.