What is your definition of sex?

[Josh Schlacter]

Am i the only one that things sexual intercourse can only happen between a man and a woman? and not girl and girl or boy and boy.
In the same way all mammals (apes, horses, koalas, kangaroos etc) have sex by penile, vaginal penetration.

I always hear girls somewhere saying, "oh i/she had sex with another girl" or "she lost her virginity to another girl"

I was getting frustrated at this so i googled the definition of sexual intercourse and this is what it gave me.

Noun
Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, esp. the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina.

Does everyone agree with the above definition? ^^^^

[PinkFloyd]

agreed. Oral sex is not sex really.

[Elysium]

Sex: (chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse

I think it's not sex in the traditional sense, but same-sex couples are already "breaking tradition" just by being a same-sex couple. Their love isn't invalid because it's not traditional. Why would their sex be any different?

Yes, obviously, there are some activities that can only transpire between a man and a woman due to anatomical differences, but sex is sex.

[Trace]

I completely disagree with you . I'll avoid getting rude too .

[Swagging god]

agreed, In my opinion, sex is between a man and a woman or a man and a man.

[Maria_Lopez]

Sex: (chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse

I think it's not sex in the traditional sense, but same-sex couples are already "breaking tradition" just by being a same-sex couple. Their love isn't invalid because it's not traditional. Why would their sex be any different?

Yes, obviously, there are some activities that can only transpire between a man and a woman due to anatomical differences, but sex is sex.

To me this is more about a societal distinction/definition and a personal definition. What I mean is there is a definition between an experience and a title. A girl that masterbates using her finger or toys when asked if "have you ever had a boys penis inside of you?" may answer "No". But if you ask her have you ever had "intercourse or anything inside your vagina?" she may answer, "Yes".

She may chose to think that if it isn't a boys penis then she is a virgin. She may also not.

Just like if you ask a girl that is with another girl, "have you had sex?" She may say yes but if you ask, "are you a virgin?" she may say no. It is really about personal definitions and societal stigmas to me.

To me, the first time I was with another person that I was in a relationship with that we wanted to and intentionally were putting things into each other (penetration) we were no longer virgin to me. That was my personal definition.

[Elysium]

To me this is more about a societal distinction/definition and a personal definition. What I mean is there is a definition between an experience and a title. A girl that masterbates using her finger or toys when asked if "have you ever had a boys penis inside of you?" may answer "No". But if you ask her have you ever had "intercourse or anything inside your vagina?" she may answer, "Yes".

She may chose to think that if it isn't a boys penis then she is a virgin. She may also not.

Just like if you ask a girl that is with another girl, "have you had sex?" She may say yes but if you ask, "are you a virgin?" she may say no. It is really about personal definitions and societal stigmas to me.

To me, the first time I was with another person that I was in a relationship with that we wanted to and intentionally were putting things into each other (penetration) we were no longer virgin to me. That was my personal definition.
I agree. Maria's put it much more eloquently than I could've.

[Deep Blue Sea]

I think it's very much a matter of subjectivity and semantics.

Oral sex, vaginal sex and anal sex are all established terms.

[indoxyl]

I certainly disagree that sex should only be between a man and woman
but however, i do agree that you cannot lose your virginity to someone of the same sex. I can't entirely clarify my definition of 'losing your virginity' but to me it doesn't make sense if two girls had sex and said they lost their virginity to each other because female sex is just oral / rubbing vaginal parts together. Same with male sex. Its just oral/sticking dicks inside butts

[Josh Schlacter]

Sex: (chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse

I think it's not sex in the traditional sense, but same-sex couples are already "breaking tradition" just by being a same-sex couple. Their love isn't invalid because it's not traditional. Why would their sex be any different?

Yes, obviously, there are some activities that can only transpire between a man and a woman due to anatomical differences, but sex is sex.

Well to me the "traditional" way is the only way, in the same way running with a ball in your hands in soccer is no longer the game soccer.

Their emotions of love might be the same but the act of sex is not. In the case of one losing their virginity not by penile penetrative vaginal sex, couldn't a girl lose her virginity to a finger or a tampon? and a guy lose his virginity to a finger or toy? Their "sex" would be different as it's not really sexual intercourse.

I certainly disagree that sex should only be between a man and woman
but however, i do agree that you cannot lose your virginity to someone of the same sex. I can't entirely clarify my definition of 'losing your virginity' but to me it doesn't make sense if two girls had sex and said they lost their virginity to each other because female sex is just oral / rubbing vaginal parts together. Same with male sex. Its just oral/sticking dicks inside butts

I agree on your definition type summary of loss on virginity. But i think the act of sexual intercourse is between male and females only because it's universally like that for all mammals including humans.




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[johnsmith1]

Sex in a traditional sense (and mentioned on it's own) would be of the vaginal kind, and therefore be between a man and a woman. Between male/ male and female/female, yes it would be more under just sexual contact. Based even on Wikipedia, it's a contensious isue on weather or not sexual contact can be considered loss of virginity. Even still, if you had a partner that even had "sexual contact" with A.N. Other, you would still be very likely unhappy if you found out.

[snowtrax]

intercourse is strictly insertion

[darthearth]

I think the terms "sex" or "sexual intercourse" should refer only to vaginal intercourse (penis and vagina) or anal intercourse (penis and anus). "Virginity" should mean vaginal intercourse if it's between a male and female, or anal intercourse if it is between two males. For two girls, I'm not sure, I would leave it up to them to decide.

But blowjobs and eating out should not be considered "sex", but "sexual activity".

But these are just my opinions, I wouldn't go out of my way to tell someone they're wrong.

[dufus]

i agree with the definition. Lots of other fun sexual things to do, but only one way to lose your virginity.

[teen.jpg]

Sex is basically just contact between sexual organs. I don't know where the whole male/female statement would even be relevant.

[GigglyAbby]

In my warped view -- I'd say sex or loss of virginity is when there's anal or vaginal penetration whether it's with a toy or a penis. Oral sex as well as foreplay are sexual activities that have no bearing on one's virginity but should fall under legal parameters for rape and incest.

[riverboy]

Another way to ask this question is what is a virgin. This can be explained many ways too.

[tundravortex]

sex-the best feeling of all

sex-the gender of someone

[Tonyc135]

Law defines sexual intercourse as the penetration of the vagina or umm ass by a penis. Toys and shit don't count as far as I see.

[Jason98]

For me sex is either:
Penis in vagina or
Penis in anus

[TapDancer]

Am i the only one that things sexual intercourse can only happen between a man and a woman? and not girl and girl or boy and boy.
In the same way all mammals (apes, horses, koalas, kangaroos etc) have sex by penile, vaginal penetration.

I always hear girls somewhere saying, "oh i/she had sex with another girl" or "she lost her virginity to another girl"

I was getting frustrated at this so i googled the definition of sexual intercourse and this is what it gave me.

Noun
Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, esp. the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina.

Does everyone agree with the above definition? ^^^^

Lets read this (dictionary) definiton again. "Noun
Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, esp. the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina.:
Okay, so, individuals involving penetration, well, thats is pretty self-explanatory, and then where is says "Esp. the insertion of man's erect penis into a woman's vagina". The very first word "Esp." Let us safely assume that means "Especially". So, while your definition is correct, the word especially does not make it exclusive. The definition was providing and most common example. It said "Especially" not "Specifically". Therefore we can safely assume that the definition is simply "Sexual contact between two individual involving penetration". I will not elaborate on that any further, but, I think I have made my point quite clear.

[Jakefortin]

Sex is when the penis goes in a hole. (asshole or vagina hole)

[Silicate Wielder]

My definition:

Sex: an intimate act usually involving two people, which ends with an orgasm.

[Josh Schlacter]

Lets read this (dictionary) definiton again. "Noun
Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, esp. the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina.:
Okay, so, individuals involving penetration, well, thats is pretty self-explanatory, and then where is says "Esp. the insertion of man's erect penis into a woman's vagina". The very first word "Esp." Let us safely assume that means "Especially". So, while your definition is correct, the word especially does not make it exclusive. The definition was providing and most common example. It said "Especially" not "Specifically". Therefore we can safely assume that the definition is simply "Sexual contact between two individual involving penetration". I will not elaborate on that any further, but, I think I have made my point quite clear.

Yes, i know and i agree ^. But that means a girl can lose her virginity to a dildo.

[Trace]

Yes, i know and i agree ^. But that means a girl can lose her virginity to a dildo.

... He said between contact between two individuals involving penetration. Not penetration by dildo. I already disagree with your idea that gay sex isn't sex.

[TapDancer]

... He said between contact between two individuals involving penetration. Not penetration by dildo. I already disagree with your idea that gay sex isn't sex.

I agree. But, the reason I care, is, to say that sex is something that only occurs between a man and a woman, well, as a gay man, it makes me feel somewhat inferior, that, and, as an example, I shall point out the Roman Catholic priest scandal. If you don't count homosexual sex as sex, well, then you could say that those poor boys weren't raped, because it wasn't sex.

[Josh Schlacter]

... He said between contact between two individuals involving penetration. Not penetration by dildo. I already disagree with your idea that gay sex isn't sex.

i meant if another girl was using the dildo on a different girl. OR what about if a girl gets fingered by a friend because she wants to know what it would feel like from another person. I was once carrying a curtain pole when i was little making a cubby house and my friend, she was over and i accidentally poked the pole into her vagina. So she lost her virginity to me?

[TapDancer]

i meant if another girl was using the dildo on a different girl. OR what about if a girl gets fingered by a friend because she wants to know what it would feel like from another person. I was once carrying a curtain pole when i was little making a cubby house and my friend, she was over and i accidentally poked the pole into her vagina. So she lost her virginity to me?

Uh, no, because it wasn't sexual contact, also your penis and fingers did not enter her vagina in order to cause pleasure.

[Trace]

i meant if another girl was using the dildo on a different girl. OR what about if a girl gets fingered by a friend because she wants to know what it would feel like from another person. I was once carrying a curtain pole when i was little making a cubby house and my friend, she was over and i accidentally poked the pole into her vagina. So she lost her virginity to me?

I know what you meant. I was saying two individuals penetrating each other with dildos isn't, which is what you said.

[Josh Schlacter]

If you don't count homosexual sex as sex, well, then you could say that those poor boys weren't raped, because it wasn't sex.

1, it would of been consensual. And 2 i consider anal a sexual act but not sexual intercourse in the same way oral sex isn't sexual intercourse.

[Abyssal Echo]

agreed. Oral sex is not sex really.

I used to think that oral wasn't nothing and the only way to lose your virginity was to have vaginal sex with a girl. but, according to my psyc, and family Doctor the oral sex I received at 11 took my virginity. If you disagree that's up to you. I had sex with a girl and my first anul at 13 so it don't matter to me how you look at it my virginity is long gone.

[Sweet Smart Smexi]

Definition:

Sex: An encounter between a man and a woman involving the man's penis inserting into the woman's vagina.

[Trace]

Definition:

Sex: An encounter between a man and a woman involving the man's penis inserting into the woman's vagina.

These definitions are so damn out-dated. The least you could do is add in anal sex yourself. Sorry if I seem rude but I get tired of seeing the same copied and pasted definition.

[Sweet Smart Smexi]

Sorry *not sorry*

[Sweet Smart Smexi]

These definitions are so damn out-dated. The least you could do is add in anal sex yourself. Sorry if I seem rude but I get tired of seeing the same copied and pasted definition.

I tried my best, considering IVE NEVER HAD SEX!

[PinkFloyd]

I used to think that oral wasn't nothing and the only way to lose your virginity was to have vaginal sex with a girl. but, according to my psyc, and family Doctor the oral sex I received at 11 took my virginity. If you disagree that's up to you. I had sex with a girl and my first anul at 13 so it don't matter to me how you look at it my virginity is long gone.

I guess that makes sense.

[digzchickz]

i think that there has got to be penile/vaginal penetration to really be sex, or penile/anal for gay guys or i guess strap-on/vaginal for girls... i mean me and my gf have done everything but anal but i still thought we were virgins until i had sex, i dont know even oral seems closer to mutual masturbation than sex... and actually i think you have to go in bare without a condom to truly lose your virginity, cause with the condom, i think its still like having a barrier so you dont really completely lose your virginity imo.

[TapDancer]

1, it would of been consensual. And 2 i consider anal a sexual act but not sexual intercourse in the same way oral sex isn't sexual intercourse.

No, those little boys, were raped. It was not consensual sex. Also, that is your opinion, but the universally accepted definition is as follows: "Sexual intercourse, or copulation or coitus, is the insertion and thrusting of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction.[3][4][5][6] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex, oral sex, fingering, and use of a strap-on dildo."

This definition was sourced from Wikipedia, which the article had over 120 sources, including the Comprehensive Textbook of Sexual Medicine.

[Josh Schlacter]

No, those little boys, were raped. It was not consensual sex. Also, that is your opinion, but the universally accepted definition is as follows: "Sexual intercourse, or copulation or coitus, is the insertion and thrusting of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction.[3][4][5][6] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex, oral sex, fingering, and use of a strap-on dildo."

This definition was sourced from Wikipedia, which the article had over 120 sources, including the Comprehensive Textbook of Sexual Medicine.



"Sexual intercourse, or copulation or coitus, is the insertion and thrusting of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction."

That part i completely agree with.

On a different note Wikipedia can be wrote by anyone, a pope, atheist or even me, and the fact it was changed 8 days ago may lead to the further confusion. And i view sexual intercourse from a standard religious point of view, as that's where the terms of virginity derived from. Today's socioculture is so challenged and misrepresented that the connotation between our generations have speculated upon.

I go to a Christian College, and i asked various people (around 25) about their opinion of what sexual intercourse is and they ALL said what i was expecting. That proves that in a Christian socioculture that's their representation of sex. This was consequential from mainly the Bible as it depicts the meaning of sexual intercourse which has been the same in the bible for over 2000 years.

[TapDancer]

"Sexual intercourse, or copulation or coitus, is the insertion and thrusting of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction."

That part i completely agree with.

On a different note Wikipedia can be wrote by anyone, a pope, atheist or even me, and the fact it was changed 8 days ago may lead to the further confusion. And i view sexual intercourse from a standard religious point of view, as that's where the terms of virginity derived from. Today's socioculture is so challenged and misrepresented that the connotation between our generations have speculated upon.

I go to a Christian College, and i asked various people (around 25) about their opinion of what sexual intercourse is and they ALL said what i was expecting. That proves that in a Christian socioculture that's their representation of sex. This was consequential from mainly the Bible as it depicts the meaning of sexual intercourse which has been the same in the bible for over 2000 years.

Sorry, but, the definition stands. You said half of it, not all of it. Yes, Wikipedia changes, because it adapts to the present. But, you will notice the very long list of references, confirming the authenticity of the document. That is your "Christian view". Christianity is different interpretations for everyone. You might go to Christian College, but, do you go to church? I go to a Catholic school, but because I go there, that does not make me Christian, Catholic, or even a religious authority. You might agree with that "Christian viewpoint", but I do not. I have been taught that "sexual intercourse should be an act shared between two people as a sign of their great love for one another. This gift of sex should also not be abused, as it is a god given gift." I agree wholeheartedly with this, this is what one of the priests I know have told me. The same priest has even said, the Bible is not to be taken literally. Look, if you took the bible literally, then you will believe that it is acceptable to give your daughter to a bunch of horny men to be raped repeatedly rather than those men having homosexual sex. That, is clearly, wrong.

[Josh Schlacter]

Sorry, but, the definition stands. You said half of it, not all of it. Yes, Wikipedia changes, because it adapts to the present. But, you will notice the very long list of references, confirming the authenticity of the document. That is your "Christian view". Christianity is different interpretations for everyone. You might go to Christian College, but, do you go to church? I go to a Catholic school, but because I go there, that does not make me Christian, Catholic, or even a religious authority. You might agree with that "Christian viewpoint", but I do not. I have been taught that "sexual intercourse should be an act shared between two people as a sign of their great love for one another. This gift of sex should also not be abused, as it is a god given gift." I agree wholeheartedly with this, this is what one of the priests I know have told me. The same priest has even said, the Bible is not to be taken literally. Look, if you took the bible literally, then you will believe that it is acceptable to give your daughter to a bunch of horny men to be raped repeatedly rather than those men having homosexual sex. That, is clearly, wrong.

Hmm well that's how you choose to take it. "i said half of it" what exactly do you mean by this statement? No i do not go to church, i'm not a Christian, i know about Christianity and i choose to take in all the morals and ethics but it doesn't mean i believe in God. I too agree on what you have said about the gift of sex, otherwise it becomes pure lust and not love. I act and behave as one should. And are you talking about the old testament which no longer applies to us. And what is the reference of that scripture where is states "that it is acceptable to give your daughter to a bunch of horny men to be raped repeatedly rather than those men having homosexual sex."

I only read the NIV.

[Jevon]

Well I think same sex sex is still sex but it's just not the sex that people think of when they think sex.....that's a little confusing but oh well

[TapDancer]

Hmm well that's how you choose to take it. "i said half of it" what exactly do you mean by this statement? No i do not go to church, i'm not a Christian, i know about Christianity and i choose to take in all the morals and ethics but it doesn't mean i believe in God. I too agree on what you have said about the gift of sex, otherwise it becomes pure lust and not love. I act and behave as one should. And are you talking about the old testament which no longer applies to us. And what is the reference of that scripture where is states "that it is acceptable to give your daughter to a bunch of horny men to be raped repeatedly rather than those men having homosexual sex."

I only read the NIV.

You mention half of the definition, the full definition being "Sexual intercourse, or copulation or coitus, is the insertion and thrusting of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction.[3][4][5][6] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex, oral sex, fingering, and use of a strap-on dildo.[5][6][7]" Ethics stem from everywhere, but, just because that is your definition of a religious "ethic" does not make it true, nor does religion dictate society. Also, it doesn't matter what version of the bible you read, they all have the Old Testament is present in all Christian bibles, including the NIV. If the old testament did not apply to Christians, then it would not be there. The Old Testament, as much as I dislike it at times, is relevant.

[Josh Schlacter]

You mention half of the definition, the full definition being "Sexual intercourse, or copulation or coitus, is the insertion and thrusting of a male's penis into a female's vagina for the purposes of sexual pleasure or reproduction.[3][4][5][6] Other forms of penetrative sexual intercourse include anal sex, oral sex, fingering, and use of a strap-on dildo.[5][6][7]" Ethics stem from everywhere, but, just because that is your definition of a religious "ethic" does not make it true, nor does religion dictate society. Also, it doesn't matter what version of the bible you read, they all have the Old Testament is present in all Christian bibles, including the NIV. If the old testament did not apply to Christians, then it would not be there. The Old Testament, as much as I dislike it at times, is relevant.

Um, i didn't meantion half of the defenition. If you google these exact words "Define sexual intercourse" you'll see i didn't change a word. And they're definition is gathered from dictionaries where as your Wikipedia definition could be written by an unqualified biased person. So you agree that the definition of sexual intercourse differs from society to society? The old testament is different from the new testament. If it was so relevant why is there a new testament then? Are you saying if a woman hits you in the balls you can cut off her hand? (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

I'm still waiting for your reference where it strictly states "that it is acceptable to give your daughter to a bunch of horny men to be raped repeatedly rather than those men having homosexual sex."

[TapDancer]

Um, i didn't meantion half of the defenition. If you google these exact words "Define sexual intercourse" you'll see i didn't change a word. And they're definition is gathered from dictionaries where as your Wikipedia definition could be written by an unqualified biased person. So you agree that the definition of sexual intercourse differs from society to society? The old testament is different from the new testament. If it was so relevant why is there a new testament then? Are you saying if a woman hits you in the balls you can cut off her hand? (Deuteronomy 25:11-12)

I'm still waiting for your reference where it strictly states "that it is acceptable to give your daughter to a bunch of horny men to be raped repeatedly rather than those men having homosexual sex."

Well, your definition says sexual penetration between two people especially the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina. Especially does not mean limited to. Your definition does not say it is only between a man and a woman. So according to the definition you have provided, homosexual sex could be included.

As for my reference about that daughter, I am referring to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. The story which can be found at this link: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+19&version=NIV That is also the NIV version. No, I most certainly do not believe in that passage, anymore than I believe the justice in that story in that link. The Bible is flawed, because mankind is flawed. Not everything in the bible is to be taken literally, however, the old testament is relevant as it is the time before Jesus. Noah's Ark for example, Abraham as well. All happened in the old testament, and all relevant. Also, no, Google's definition is not from dictionaries, it is their own definition. Also, that definition I gave you, did come from WiKipedia, a WiKi that had over 120 sources to confirm it's authenticity. The fact is, the subject here, is the definition of sex. The definition you have provided me defines sex as Penetration between two people, and has given the example of a man's penis entering a woman's vagina. It did not limit sexual intercourse to that, but it gave the most common example. I do not understand why you had to make that go any further, it is ridiculous. Christianity's definition of sex is irrelevant, because it is a religion and does not represent everyone.

[Josh Schlacter]

Obviously it's flawed. And do you honestly think that the Google staff have time to write out every definition of every word in every language? It was way more likely to be copied from dictionaries through computer scripts. Again, wikipedia is written by people and i do not understand where you got the "120 sources" from to back it up. I would like to see how that works.

Yes, i know about the definition i provided, and i still don't think it's wrong.

"Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, esp. the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina."

I only asked people if they agreed with the definition, that is all.
If Christianities definition of sex is irrelevant because it does not represent everyone, than societies definition of sex is also irrelevant because everyone's different and the multitudes of religion make up our socioculture.

Anyway, how old are you? and what part of Aus are you from? I'm from Perth.

[imcoolbro]

anyone can have sex

[Luisss]

Well...it's true you can't reproduce with 2 men or 2 women. I wouldn't really count fingering nor oral nor anal as actual sex. To me the anus isn't meant for sex. And sex between 2 lesbians, I don't think the rubbing of the clitoris counts neither.

[superstarB]

Sex is sex. Vaginal, Anal, or Oral.

[Andrew2499]

I don't think a guy can lose his virginity to another guy, and a girl can't lose her virginity to another girl. but i think two boys can have sex and two girls can have sex.

[Emerald Dream]

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