Protests in Turkey

[tovaris]

The turkeish people are rising up in larger and larger numbers againced theyr as they say undemocratic and owerlyislamistic leader.
What is your opinion on the mather?

[Stronk Serb]

Separation of state and religion.

[Left Now]

The Ardoghan is a secular in the wear of an Islamic.However,the protests are against the decision of government to change that historical park,not the islamic leadership.Still people in Turkey demand their government to be Islamic,because today the government of Turkey is a secular one.

[Stronk Serb]

The Ardoghan is a secular in the wear of an Islamic.However,the protests are against the decision of government to change that historical park,not the islamic leadership.Still people in Turkey demand their government to be Islamic,because today the government of Turkey is a secular one.

What are the protests about exactly?

[tovaris]

The Ardoghan is a secular in the wear of an Islamic.However,the protests are against the decision of government to change that historical park,not the islamic leadership.Still people in Turkey demand their government to be Islamic,because today the government of Turkey is a secular one.

What are the protests about exactly?
The protests only started because they want to turn a park in Istanbul into blocks of flats or ofice buildings os something like that. But have since grovn into full anti goverment protests, enflamed by the violante police and the goverments responses. Thay are mostly demanding reform and for the agresive islamisation to stop (as they see it).

[Left Now]

The protests only started because they want to turn a park in Istanbul into blocks of flats or ofice buildings os something like that. But have since grovn into full anti goverment protests, enflamed by the violante police and the goverments responses. Thay are mostly demanding reform and for the agresive islamisation to stop (as they see it).

How can a man who is fighting with an islamic nation do some Islamizasion?Ardoghan is a Turkish prime minister and have a great relation with western countries.
First,the protests began because of that park;They wanted to turn that park to a tourism center.
After that,the other people who were against Ardoghan's decisions,joint the protesters and rise a great anti-Ardoghan movement;As you can see they only want Ardoghan get out of the cabinet,not other Islamic members;it means if Ardoghan got fired,the next PM will be still an Islamic member of Turkey.
Ardoghan's decisions against Syria and aiding rebels made a lot of people angry in Turkey;Also,some communist groups in Turkey abused the situation and announced that the majority of population in Turkey,want a democratic-social-communist government,so this is the reason of why there is a great uprising in Turkey which is not true.Turkey is a secular country,even if its most powerful politicians are Islamists,and it means the politicians in Turkey have to obey the secular state laws.
Also,the main reasons of people demonstrating in Turkey are these:
1_The Park , 2_The Syria , 3_The PPK , 4_The Ardoghan's decisions about financial and tourism policy.

[Stronk Serb]

The Ardoghan is a secular in the wear of an Islamic.However,the protests are against the decision of government to change that historical park,not the islamic leadership.Still people in Turkey demand their government to be Islamic,because today the government of Turkey is a secular one.

A governmet should not be ruled by a religion, nor ot should rule over a religion

The protests only started because they want to turn a park in Istanbul into blocks of flats or ofice buildings os something like that. But have since grovn into full anti goverment protests, enflamed by the violante police and the goverments responses. Thay are mostly demanding reform and for the agresive islamisation to stop (as they see it).


The government should give into people's demands. A government is supposed to have fear from it's own people.

[Left Now]

A governmet should not be ruled by a religion, nor ot should rule over a religion




The government should give into people's demands. A government is supposed to have fear from it's own people.

I do not know,but when people want to still be islamic,then there can't be any force to make them accept a secular government which now we have one in Turkey;However,do not worry there won't be any Socialist government in Turkey,Just a change in Prime Minister's office and then all the things will be alright.

[TheBigUnit]

A governmet should not be ruled by a religion, nor ot should rule over a religion




The government should give into people's demands. A government is supposed to have fear from it's own people.

Its a vocal minority thats why

, you also have the hooligans from syria still fighting and many refugees fueling the fire

[tovaris]

I do not know,but when people want to still be islamic,then there can't be any force to make them accept a secular government which now we have one in Turkey;However,do not worry there won't be any Socialist government in Turkey,Just a change in Prime Minister's office and then all the things will be alright.

The thing about the protersts is that they say this has nothing to do with religion they just dont want one to dominate the country undemocraticly without respect to others (as they say). They say that those proteating are not just one grup but Islams, Kristians, Kurds, Trurks, Socialist... basicly everiine.
What do you think about these claims, of the proters who despite tear gas brute force and wather canons stil stay on the streets?
A nother claim of the protersts is that they simply want to be heard and respected and not what the PM is doing by insulting them.

[Left Now]

The thing about the protersts is that they say this has nothing to do with religion they just dont want one to dominate the country undemocraticly without respect to others (as they say). They say that those proteating are not just one grup but Islams, Kristians, Kurds, Trurks, Socialist... basicly everiine.
What do you think about these claims, of the proters who despite tear gas brute force and wather canons stil stay on the streets?
A nother claim of the protersts is that they simply want to be heard and respected and not what the PM is doing by insulting them.

One of the main goals of the protestors is to prevent their country be in trouble because of supporting the rebels in Syria according to three Turkish trustworthy newspaper.Their second goal is to kick Ardoghan out of the cabinet,and their third goal is to the change the financial policy based on tourism works and heavy capitalism system.The majority of protestors are protesting because of these three reasons.The others are just protesting to use this chance to say their goals;As you can see in the protests,many workers were on strike and some of them were carrying the flag of communism,so we can get that one of the main reasons of protests,is the financial system of Turkey which is really close to western Capitalism.

[tovaris]

One of the main goals of the protestors is to prevent their country be in trouble because of supporting the rebels in Syria according to three Turkish trustworthy newspaper.Their second goal is to kick Ardoghan out of the cabinet,and their third goal is to the change the financial policy based on tourism works and heavy capitalism system.The majority of protestors are protesting because of these three reasons.The others are just protesting to use this chance to say their goals;As you can see in the protests,many workers were on strike and some of them were carrying the flag of communism,so we can get that one of the main reasons of protests,is the financial system of Turkey which is really close to western Capitalism.

Interesting theory.
It would seem that Turkey will sloly become evolved enouth in their state of mind that they will not care any more about religion etnicety or social stata.

[Left Now]

Interesting theory.
It would seem that Turkey will sloly become evolved enouth in their state of mind that they will not care any more about religion etnicety or social stata.

The Turkish government is a secular government,and people do not have problem with it,but it doesn't mean that they do not care about their religion;As you remember,Turkish government once made having veil in universities and schools forbidden for women and girls.Those people who didn't care about the secularism of their government,came and protested against this decision and made government to withdraw from some of its plans for completely removing the veil.
As i think,the problem of Turkey is more about Syria and financial policy of the government.

[tovaris]

The Turkish government is a secular government,and people do not have problem with it,but it doesn't mean that they do not care about their religion;As you remember,Turkish government once made having veil in universities and schools forbidden for women and girls.Those people who didn't care about the secularism of their government,came and protested against this decision and made government to withdraw from some of its plans for completely removing the veil.
As i think,the problem of Turkey is more about Syria and financial policy of the government.

No mather what state and any religiin must be strictly seperated.

[Left Now]

Well,it is your opinion.In my opinion there is no problem for state to be with religion when most of the people of a country is agreeing with this.

[tovaris]

Well,it is your opinion.In my opinion there is no problem for state to be with religion when most of the people of a country is agreeing with this.

www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=180960,

[tovaris]

The constructiin in The park halted.
Erdogan thretens to use military force againced protesters.
Fights have broke out betveen grups of Erdogans suporters and protesters.

[britishboy]

must be stopped at all costs, tear gas is not enough, put troops on the street and storm their camps. and cover the place in tear gas and tazer tazer tazer! these are not uprisings just attention seeking hippies

[tovaris]

must be stopped at all costs, tear gas is not enough, put troops on the street and storm their camps. and cover the place in tear gas and tazer tazer tazer! these are not uprisings just attention seeking hippies

Extensive force from tear gass, wather canins, cemicals aded to that whather, beating, brute force (they even turned of survailence camers) has alredy been used.
What now?

[britishboy]

Extensive force from tear gass, wather canins, cemicals aded to that whather, beating, brute force (they even turned of survailence camers) has alredy been used.

radiation cannons should be used (i think thats the name) to disperse the crowds and if that fails a SWAT team will have to leathely remove the crowds, this is extremely embarrassing for the Turkish police force and must be brought to an end.

[Azunite]

Let me intervene as a Turkish citizen. And finally someone realises that something big is going on here and writes it here on VT.



The Ardoghan is a secular in the wear of an Islamic.However,the protests are against the decision of government to change that historical park,not the islamic leadership.Still people in Turkey demand their government to be Islamic,because today the government of Turkey is a secular one.

Erdoğan is NOT secular. He has turned Turkey into an Islamic state. Period.

We do NOT want an Islamic government. You contradict with yourself. If a government is secular, then it cannot be Islamic.


The protests only started because they want to turn a park in Istanbul into blocks of flats or ofice buildings os something like that. But have since grovn into full anti goverment protests, enflamed by the violante police and the goverments responses. Thay are mostly demanding reform and for the agresive islamisation to stop (as they see it).

Yeah the first 36 hours we wanted to protect the trees. But when the police used brutal force we said "Hey, this is a chance to bring down the government."

One of the main goals of the protestors is to prevent their country be in trouble because of supporting the rebels in Syria according to three Turkish trustworthy newspaper.Their second goal is to kick Ardoghan out of the cabinet,and their third goal is to the change the financial policy based on tourism works and heavy capitalism system.The majority of protestors are protesting because of these three reasons.The others are just protesting to use this chance to say their goals;As you can see in the protests,many workers were on strike and some of them were carrying the flag of communism,so we can get that one of the main reasons of protests,is the financial system of Turkey which is really close to western Capitalism.

This is mostly true, but then again: The primary objective is to destroy the Erdoğan government.


Well,it is your opinion.In my opinion there is no problem for state to be with religion when most of the people of a country is agreeing with this.

Are you talking about the 50% voters? If so, then you are badly wrong. Only like 20% of them really vote for Erdoğan. Others have either nobody to vote, or they simply like how Erdoğan talks. Also, let me add the fact that all votes of the parties who have received under 15% goes to Erdoğan government.


must be stopped at all costs, tear gas is not enough, put troops on the street and storm their camps. and cover the place in tear gas and tazer tazer tazer! these are not uprisings just attention seeking hippies


FUCK YOU SIR GIVE ME A REASON WHY IT SHOULD BE STOPPED, YOU CONSERVATIVE. HIPPIES? I HOPE HIPPIES IN ENGLAND WILL STORM YOUR CAMP AND MURDER YOU.

I do not know,but when people want to still be islamic,then there can't be any force to make them accept a secular government which now we have one in Turkey;However,do not worry there won't be any Socialist government in Turkey,Just a change in Prime Minister's office and then all the things will be alright.

radiation cannons should be used (i think thats the name) to disperse the crowds and if that fails a SWAT team will have to leathely remove the crowds, this is extremely embarrassing for the Turkish police force and must be brought to an end.

What radiation cannon? Are you fucking shitting me? People are dying out there you fascist prick! How dare you defend the pride of a fascist police force over the freedom of the citizens of a country? They fired the tear gas cannisters ON OUR HEADS. The bloody canisters exploded on our brains and our bodies! They used pressurized water on us MIXED WITH ACIDIC CHEMICALS.

I can't bloody believe you. You think people should die out there only because a police force is embarassed? THEY SHOULD BE DAMN WELL EMBARASSED, FOR BEATING AND SHOOTING WOMEN AND CHILDREN ALIKE!

A CITIZEN WAS KILLED BY A HEADSHOT FIRED FROM A POLICE PISTOL


We need to achieve two things. One: remove Erdoğan. Two: Prevent the extremists from taking over.

[tovaris]

radiation cannons should be used (i think thats the name) to disperse the crowds and if that fails a SWAT team will have to leathely remove the crowds, this is extremely embarrassing for the Turkish police force and must be brought to an end.

Intereating thimking, but why atop protests?

[britishboy]

FUCK YOU SIR GIVE ME A REASON WHY IT SHOULD BE STOPPED, YOU CONSERVATIVE.

well its making you crap police force look even worse, land has been takern from the government by hippies and if you support them your an idiot, and if you think your government will fall your sadly mistaken, your prime minister is under heavy pressure from Europe to end it and he will.

Intereating thimking, but why atop protests?

theyre no longer peaceful and is making a joke of the police force and people are losing what little respect they have for the country

[tovaris]

well its making you crap police force look even worse, land has been takern from the government by hippies and if you support them your an idiot, and if you think your government will fall your sadly mistaken, your prime minister is under heavy pressure from Europe to end it and he will.

interesting.
What and whoe news did these statements come from?

[britishboy]

interesting.
What and whoe news did these statements come from?

what do you mean?

[Azunite]

well its making you crap police force look even worse, land has been takern from the government by hippies and if you support them your an idiot, and if you think your government will fall your sadly mistaken, your prime minister is under heavy pressure from Europe to end it and he will.


theyre no longer peaceful and is making a joke of the police force and people are losing what little respect they have for the country


Why the hell do you care about OUR police force? Hell if someone would say "Turkey" to you you would be disgusted and would regard us as stupid desert bedouins with camels, whereas we do not have deserts at all.

What land? What hippies? Your ignorance is killing me. You really should be caged somewhere. Oh by the way, I hope you know that both Europe and America detests Erdoğan now and since they took him up to the government, they will surely bring him down now.


If the police starts attacking and killing their own citizens, then we will attack them equally. It is the police who do not respect their country, their citizens. Do you and your fucking mind full of worms think that the citizens randomly attacked the innocent police force?

I love it how you think you know MY country better than me, whereas you proved your ignorance by many fields of discussions in this website.

[tovaris]

theyre no longer peaceful and is making a joke of the police force and people are losing what little respect they have for the country

Valid point but isnt a country aloved to sort out their enternal afairs without woriing how it looks on the outside?
But who isnt pecefull, who styrted the violance? This information varies a lot depanding on what media you observe...

[Azunite]

Valid point but isnt a country aloved to sort out their enternal afairs without woriing how it looks on the outside?
But who isnt pecefull, who styrted the violance? This information varies a lot depanding on what media you observe...

The protests began as a simple sit-in. In order to continue the sit in without any time loss, we put up tents in the park to camp there at night.

Right before sunrise, the police raided the camp and burned the tents, fired gas canisters on us for hours. That is how it all started.

[tovaris]

The protests began as a simple sit-in. In order to continue the sit in without any time loss, we put up tents in the park to camp there at night.

Right before sunrise, the police raided the camp and burned the tents, fired gas canisters on us for hours. That is how it all started.

Now that is how one makesan argument not by some hazy fog of turims suffering etc.

[Azunite]

Now that is how one makesan argument not by some hazy fog of turims suffering etc.

Honestly, I have no idea what you meant in this post.

[tovaris]

Honestly, I have no idea what you meant in this post.

You make good argument, oposition (this case Erdogan „position”) makes bad argument.
My whole entent in this thread is to make people think and come up with good arguments for their clames, si to see the other members true opinion.

[Azunite]

You make good argument, oposition (this case Erdogan „position”) makes bad argument.
My whole entent in this thread is to make people think and come up with good arguments for their clames, si to see the other members true opinion.

Oh, thanks then.

[britishboy]

Why the hell do you care about OUR police force? Hell if someone would say "Turkey" to you you would be disgusted and would regard us as stupid desert bedouins with camels, whereas we do not have deserts at all.

What land? What hippies? Your ignorance is killing me. You really should be caged somewhere. Oh by the way, I hope you know that both Europe and America detests Erdoğan now and since they took him up to the government, they will surely bring him down now.


If the police starts attacking and killing their own citizens, then we will attack them equally. It is the police who do not respect their country, their citizens. Do you and your fucking mind full of worms think that the citizens randomly attacked the innocent police force?

I love it how you think you know MY country better than me, whereas you proved your ignorance by many fields of discussions in this website.

well to be honest by the looks of things, your police need all the help they can get and do you support the protesters?

Valid point but isnt a country aloved to sort out their enternal afairs without woriing how it looks on the outside?
But who isnt pecefull, who styrted the violance? This information varies a lot depanding on what media you observe...

all medias and the pm say one thing, the protesters say another... who to believe? the nation and leaders hate them, they are just annoying attention seekers

[Azunite]

well to be honest by the looks of things, your police need all the help they can get and do you support the protesters?

By the look of things, the police just burned three trees in the park and killed two people already, whereas there are only a handful of officers got injured.

And yes as a logical person I support them.

[Harry Smith]

well its making you crap police force look even worse, land has been takern from the government by hippies and if you support them your an idiot, and if you think your government will fall your sadly mistaken, your prime minister is under heavy pressure from Europe to end it and he will.



theyre no longer peaceful and is making a joke of the police force and people are losing what little respect they have for the country

Your a god damn Facist for saying that the Swat should be brought in, your happy for people to be killed just for protesting

[britishboy]

By the look of things, the police just burned three trees in the park and killed two people already, whereas there are only a handful of officers got injured.

And yes as a logical person I support them.

whats there cause anyway? and its their fault for breaking the law

Your a god damn Facist for saying that the Swat should be brought in, your happy for people to be killed just for protesting

no tear gas and them radiation things and theyre not working so a swat team will scare them and they are breaking the law, as the pm said, peaceful protests have long ended

[Azunite]

whats there cause anyway? and its their fault for breaking the law

It isn't against the law to make a sit-in protest.

But it is against the wall when the police raid the park and burn the tents while people are sleeping inside.

[Harry Smith]

whats there cause anyway? and its their fault for breaking the law



no tear gas and them radiation things and theyre not working so a swat team will scare them and they are breaking the law, as the pm said, peaceful protests have long ended

The last time I checked that's murder, just because they broke the law doesn't mean you can kill them. That's murder

[britishboy]

It isn't against the law to make a sit-in protest.

But it is against the wall when the police raid the park and burn the tents while people are sleeping inside.

what? ive never herd that? anyway im sure it wasnt ment to happen, police arent known for setting fire to stuff, and the prime minister himself has asked them to leave, and after alll these warnings the idiots still say

The last time I checked that's murder, just because they broke the law doesn't mean you can kill them. That's murder
if a swat team asked to move would you? well I would and they can be armed with rubber bullets

[Azunite]

what? ive never herd that? anyway im sure it wasnt ment to happen, police arent known for setting fire to stuff, and the prime minister himself has asked them to leave, and after alll these warnings the idiots still say

How do you know what the police do a continent away? You think the foreign TV channels were here since day one and could record everything?

Of course the PM would warn us. You think your PM wouldn't warn you if you guys rebelled against him? Think before you speak.

Don't try to teach and tell me what is going on here. It really makes you look bad.

[Harry Smith]

what? ive never herd that? anyway im sure it wasnt ment to happen, police arent known for setting fire to stuff, and the prime minister himself has asked them to leave, and after alll these warnings the idiots still say


if a swat team asked to move would you? well I would and they can be armed with rubber bullets

We don't have Swat teams over here, your not a fucking Yank

[Left Now]

Leave it to Turkish people.At last they will make the future of their country not we foreigners.However,personally i hate Erdogan.

[britishboy]

How do you know what the police do a continent away? You think the foreign TV channels were here since day one and could record everything?

Of course the PM would warn us. You think your PM wouldn't warn you if you guys rebelled against him? Think before you speak.

Don't try to teach and tell me what is going on here. It really makes you look bad.

its not that big a deal, its far from an uprising and we have the g8 meeting and seria so sorry not everyone is reading up on turkey and im not trying to teach you anything and by 'us' im assuming your a protester?:/

We don't have Swat teams over here, your not a fucking Yank

everyone knows what a swat team is, few brits know what the armed response unit is so considering im speaking to foreign people I use swat as I dont know whay they use, think before you speak

Leave it to Turkish people.At last they will make the future of their country not we foreigners.However,personally i hate Erdogan.

this isn't like syria, its a couple of protesters

[Azunite]

We don't have Swat teams over here, your not a fucking Yank

Ouch.

Leave it to Turkish people.At last they will make the future of their country not we foreigners.However,personally i hate Erdogan.

Mhmmmm..

its not that big a deal, its far from an uprising and we have the g8 meeting and seria so sorry not everyone is reading up on turkey and im not trying to teach you anything and by 'us' im assuming your a protester?:/


everyone knows what a swat team is, few brits know what the armed response unit is so considering im speaking to foreign people I use swat as I dont know whay they use, think before you speak


this isn't like syria, its a couple of protesters

Instead of SWAT you could have simply said "special forces" or something like that.
And yes, "SWATS" of Turkey are beating the shit of the protesters since day three. And today is two weeks plus day six

Oh I would also like to add that civil police gets dressed as provocators and throw molotov coctails everywhere.

It is a couple of protesters?
The protests have spread into ALL major cities and 90 provinces in total. Plus many cities in Europe and America where there is a big enough Turkish diaspora.

Yes I am a protester and a defender of ways of Atatürk, modern world, humanism and democracy.

[tovaris]

well to be honest by the looks of things, your police need all the help they can get and do you support the protesters?



all medias and the pm say one thing, the protesters say another... who to believe? the nation and leaders hate them, they are just annoying attention seekers

Some claim the protersts are the nation... I find it hard to believe that there is such a mass of atentiin seekers.
Not all media.

[Harry Smith]

its not that big a deal, its far from an uprising and we have the g8 meeting and seria so sorry not everyone is reading up on turkey and im not trying to teach you anything and by 'us' im assuming your a protester?:/



everyone knows what a swat team is, few brits know what the armed response unit is so considering im speaking to foreign people I use swat as I dont know whay they use, think before you speak



this isn't like syria, its a couple of protesters


Me think? Your the one using incorrect grammar, SWAT means special weapons and Tactics, you could of said armed police. Swat implies that they would be coming under gun fire, something the protesters have not been doing. You don't point guns at unarmed people-first rule of CO19

[britishboy]

Some claim the protersts are the nation... I find it hard to believe that there is such a mass of atentiin seekers.
Not all media.

it verys in the sence some are positive and negative, some say prime minister is cracking down on it, others say hes failing



Instead of SWAT you could have simply said "special forces" or something like that.
And yes, "SWATS" of Turkey are beating the shit of the protesters since day three. And today is two weeks plus day six

Oh I would also like to add that civil police gets dressed as provocators and throw molotov coctails everywhere.

It is a couple of protesters?
The protests have spread into ALL major cities and 90 provinces in total. Plus many cities in Europe and America where there is a big enough Turkish diaspora.

Yes I am a protester and a defender of ways of Atatürk, modern world, humanism and democracy.

the special forces are military anyway not the point, you all knew what I ment which is why I said it. do you believe its a revolution? and I think theres only a few bad ones? im not sure anyway the pm was voted in... thats democracy and I dont see what your fighting for? and so not bothered about the tear gas and police?

[Azunite]

it verys in the sence some are positive and negative, some say prime minister is cracking down on it, others say hes failing



the special forces are military anyway not the point, you all knew what I ment which is why I said it. do you believe its a revolution? and I think theres only a few bad ones? im not sure anyway the pm was voted in... thats democracy and I dont see what your fighting for? and so not bothered about the tear gas and police?

PM wasn't voted in. The party was. And the party was chosen only because they talked about religon more than anybody. The 49% percent of the country which voted for them are an uneducated apolitical bunch. In my opinion voting should be a privilige, because they don't really care about who leads them, but a man comes and says Allah all the time, so people decide to vote for him. I must admit, his charisma and way of speech is extraordinary.

[Harry Smith]

it verys in the sence some are positive and negative, some say prime minister is cracking down on it, others say hes failing



the special forces are military anyway not the point, you all knew what I ment which is why I said it. do you believe its a revolution? and I think theres only a few bad ones? im not sure anyway the pm was voted in... thats democracy and I dont see what your fighting for? and so not bothered about the tear gas and police?

Just because a politician is voted in doesn't give him a license to rule badly, the people of turkey have a right to protest against the government that they elected. Do you understand anything?

[britishboy]

PM wasn't voted in. The party was. And the party was chosen only because they talked about religon more than anybody. The 49% percent of the country which voted for them are an uneducated apolitical bunch. In my opinion voting should be a privilige, because they don't really care about who leads them, but a man comes and says Allah all the time, so people decide to vote for him. I must admit, his charisma and way of speech is extraordinary.

I dont see what hes doing that bad? nothing that cant wait until the next vote? and from what I understand, hes fine with the protesters protesting peacefully but not blocking access to places and he has said that the peaceful protests have long ended and out of curiosity, do you want civil war and to kick him out? or just him to change his politics?

[Azunite]

I dont see what hes doing that bad? nothing that cant wait until the next vote? and from what I understand, hes fine with the protesters protesting peacefully but not blocking access to places and he has said that the peaceful protests have long ended and out of curiosity, do you want civil war and to kick him out? or just him to change his politics?

We want to kick him out, because his politics won't change. It hasn't changed for the last 8 years.

[Harry Smith]

I dont see what hes doing that bad? nothing that cant wait until the next vote? and from what I understand, hes fine with the protesters protesting peacefully but not blocking access to places and he has said that the peaceful protests have long ended and out of curiosity, do you want civil war and to kick him out? or just him to change his politics?

The act of protest doesn't mean a civil war, look at the Poll tax riots in 1990. That got Thatcher out of office, did it require a civil war? No

You really fail to understand how government works, you can't simply sit at home and wait until the next vote when you have a government committing gross violence against it's own people

[britishboy]

We want to kick him out, because his politics won't change. It hasn't changed for the last 8 years.

alright thanks for clearing that up:) if you want his respect however the protests should be peaceful

[Sugaree]

alright thanks for clearing that up:) if you want his respect however the protests should be peaceful

They WERE peaceful you idiot. They were peaceful until a bunch of hooligans came in and started throwing molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the police. The police didn't help either, considering they were using excessive force to control the crowd. Seriously, does anything get through your thick skull?

[Walter Powers]

Wow, I had no idea this is such a divisive issue in Europe. I don't know a ton about the conflict, but from what I've read it's Islamic Government versus a bunch of Communist hippie protesters...not sure which is worse. I'm not gonna take sides here, but I think britishboy has some valid points.

[Walter Powers]

I think that, unless you are being truly opressed and prepared for civil war, however, all protests should be peaceful.

[britishboy]

They WERE peaceful you idiot. They were peaceful until a bunch of hooligans came in and started throwing molotovs and tear gas grenades back at the police. The police didn't help either, considering they were using excessive force to control the crowd. Seriously, does anything get through your thick skull?

if you knew anything you would know that the police are only recently getting tough

I think that, unless you are being truly opressed and prepared for civil war, however, all protests should be peaceful.

my opinion exactly, violente protests only get bad attention

[Harry Smith]

if you knew anything you would know that the police are only recently getting tough



my opinion exactly, violente protests only get bad attention

Once again Jack please think before insulting people, the police used tear gas to remove the peaceful protesters form a park, that's brute force and an abuse of power.

Not dismiss violent protests, as I mentioned the poll tax riots brought down the thatcher government. The Hungarian riots in 1957 sparked tension within the Warsaw pact, I also believe it was through violent protest that the American war of Independence started