Best assault rifle in your opinion?

[Stronk Serb]

The tittle says it all, please add for what ammo you like it chambered.
My favourite is the AK-47 chambered for 7.62x39 bullets. Reliable, deadly, fairly accurrate.

[tovaris]

Автомат Калашникова (http://goo.gl/7C8eU) '47
I agre AK-'47 (74 to) the best,

[MaguireUk]

M4 5.56x45mm its short, light, reliable, can customize it so much has to be the best

[britishboy]

agreed m4 the ak47 is powerful but not accurate

[Stronk Serb]

agreed m4 the ak47 is powerful but not accurate

Vietcongs were burying their AK-47s in cesspools, and without any proper cleaning the gun fired again. Try doing that with an M4, it will be the last thing you ever did, that's why I chose the AK, plus it needs less maintenance, suitable for ressistance or guerilla fighters.

[britishboy]

Vietcongs were burying their AK-47s in cesspools, and without any proper cleaning the gun fired again. Try doing that with an M4, it will be the last thing you ever did, that's why I chose the AK, plus it needs less maintenance, suitable for ressistance or guerilla fighters.

yeah theyre great for terrorists and rebels but the army is highly trained for example they all are trained to fight as well at night as they can at day

[Human]

My favourite assault rifle is the AK-47.
I love its look, power and reliability.

[Origami]

•AK Variants; These guns are renowned for their inability to fuck up in crucial situations. They, without a doubt, take more of a beating than any other gun available to date and can still keep on kicking. They have enormous stopping power and are a tried and true symbol of insurgents, resistance fighters, and modern day guerrilla fighters.

•M4 Variants; These guns along with the M16 are renowned military symbols and pretty much the definition of "standard issue" in countless regions. This alone speaks for itself. The M4 variants are much lighter than the AK and far more maneuverable. While they lack the same brute force, they make up for it with an increased rate of fire ranging from 150 to 300 bpm higher than the AK.

Someone stated earlier that the M4 was customizable, implying the AK isn't. Both guns are incredibly open to customization in numerous points.

Also, I feel the need to remind people that the AK47 comes in countless variants. Not just the typical wood stocked version which has become it's iconic form.

As for me in terms of preference, I would prefer a bullpup design like the Steyr AUG or FA-MAS though. :P

[PinkFloyd]

AK-47 without a doubt! they are so reliable! I also think they look amazing.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Honestly, an AK. But, really, an M14 is pretty damn close. It's got some good firepower, only beaten by an FN FAL, and it's quite accurate and reliable. (It really shouldn't be classified as an Assault Rifle in the first place, its actually a DMR/Sniper Rifle)

[britishboy]

the acr, It is extremely accurate, and can
be customized to fire any round. It
is the official replace for the M4 so
it must be good!

[Horatio Nelson]

Honestly, an AK. But, really, an M14 is pretty damn close. It's got some good firepower, only beaten by an FN FAL, and it's quite accurate and reliable. (It really shouldn't be classified as an Assault Rifle in the first place, its actually a DMR/Sniper Rifle)

The M14 is a designated marksmen's rifle. Not an AR.


The AK and it's variants by far.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

The M14 is a designated marksmen's rifle. Not an AR.


The AK and it's variants by far.

It is classified as one, however it is a designated Marksman and Battle Rifle. I do disagree with it being an AR, but it actually is classified as one.

[Professional Russian]

Fuck your AK peace of shit. I liked my colt LE6920 with an AAC upper in .300 AAC blackout. Thing never fucked up.

[Stronk Serb]

•AK Variants; These guns are renowned for their inability to fuck up in crucial situations. They, without a doubt, take more of a beating than any other gun available to date and can still keep on kicking. They have enormous stopping power and are a tried and true symbol of insurgents, resistance fighters, and modern day guerrilla fighters.

•M4 Variants; These guns along with the M16 are renowned military symbols and pretty much the definition of "standard issue" in countless regions. This alone speaks for itself. The M4 variants are much lighter than the AK and far more maneuverable. While they lack the same brute force, they make up for it with an increased rate of fire ranging from 150 to 300 bpm higher than the AK.

Someone stated earlier that the M4 was customizable, implying the AK isn't. Both guns are incredibly open to customization in numerous points.

Also, I feel the need to remind people that the AK47 comes in countless variants. Not just the typical wood stocked version which has become it's iconic form.

As for me in terms of preference, I would prefer a bullpup design like the Steyr AUG or FA-MAS though. :P

I heard there are some bullpup version of the AK, but I am not sure if the pictures were photoshopped or the models really exist. I know there is the Groza which is a bullpup rifle with an underbarrel greade launcher. It uses 7.62x39 or 5.45x39 rounds, just like the AKs, but it's barrel design is very different from the AK, it does not have that upper curve.

[Stronk Serb]

Fuck your AK peace of shit. I liked my colt LE6920 with an AAC upper in .300 AAC blackout. Thing never fucked up.

It obviously isn't a piece of shit since it is in service for 65 years now. Try burying your LE into mud, pull it out and fire it without proper barrel and firring mechanism cleaning, and then report to me.

[Professional Russian]

It obviously isn't a piece of shit since it is in service for 65 years now. Try burying your LE into mud, pull it out and fire it without proper barrel and firring mechanism cleaning, and then report to me.

I put 1000 rounds through with no fuck ups if that makes you feel better.

[Stronk Serb]

I put 1000 rounds through with no fuck ups if that makes you feel better.

Please try the mud thing. Many have shoot more rounds without jamming or any other problems. The VCs did the mud thing in 'Nam with their AKs and did not die from weapon malfunction.

yeah theyre great for terrorists and rebels but the army is highly trained for example they all are trained to fight as well at night as they can at day

Well, some grunts would rather have a reliable and not that accurrate rifle. The accurracy is not a problem if you are well trained. And you are probably not going to shoot it to a target which is more than 300 meters away, consudering that combat mostly takes place in urban areas.

[Professional Russian]

Please try the mud thing. Many have shoot more rounds without jamming or any other problems. The VCs did the mud thing in 'Nam with their AKs and did not die from weapon malfunction.



Well, some grunts would rather have a reliable and not that accurrate rifle. The accurracy is not a problem if you are well trained. And you are probably not going to shoot it to a target which is more than 300 meters away, consudering that combat mostly takes place in urban areas.

I could also hit 5"X5" targets at 500+ yards with it.....when I felt like actually put the 1-12 on it. I usually kept my aim point on it but still.

[Stronk Serb]

I could also hit 5"X5" targets at 500+ yards with it.....when I felt like actually put the 1-12 on it. I usually kept my aim point on it but still.


You are evading my question. Can your Colt LE fire without proper cleaning after being buried in the mud?

[Professional Russian]

You are evading my question. Can your Colt LE fire without proper cleaning after being buried in the mud?

Stock? Most likely not. But my AAC upper had a direct impingement gas system. Very similar to the AKs so it would reliably fire through nearly anything.

[itschilled]

Truvelo Raptor

[Cygnus]

AK-103 Kalashnikov

[WickedWeekend]

I never knew much about firearms, nor do I plan to expand my knowledge on them, but I'd have to go with Ak-47. It's the first gun I ever heard of and it is the most iconic assault rifle out there. Don't bother coming up with a rebuttal because I already said I know jack shit about firearms.

[Left Now]

AK-47:I've used it in my defense class and it was quietly nice.Made of wood and metal and able to shoot in water and very easy to use in wet places.It is actually a gun!

Also,very light!

[Origami]

I heard there are some bullpup version of the AK, but I am not sure if the pictures were photoshopped or the models really exist. I know there is the Groza which is a bullpup rifle with an underbarrel greade launcher. It uses 7.62x39 or 5.45x39 rounds, just like the AKs, but it's barrel design is very different from the AK, it does not have that upper curve.

Late sorry;

I've heard of a bullpup AK as well, though I'm not sure if it's real or even worth using.
The banana clip would hinge after it grew larger than 30rds.

[Professional Russian]

Here let's settle this now. The best assault rifle is obviously the STG/MP 44. It was the first.....or the M1 Garand I love garands <3

[tundravortex]

I have three
1-HK g36c(assault rifle)
2-DESERT TACTICAL HTI 50BMG(sniper)
3-B.A.R(browning automatic rifle)

stock-slide fire(bump fire)

[Professional Russian]

Or an SKS. An AR-10 with a direct impingement gas system works.great also. Also the M14/M1A. You can also count the PPSH in for one.

[Harry Smith]

Here let's settle this now. The best assault rifle is obviously the STG/MP 44. It was the first.....or the M1 Garand I love garands <3

I have to agree with that, when you've got a STG coming up against a bolt action mosin nagant the poor russian wouldn't have chance. Along with the MG-42 it really made the allies shit them-self. I mean the Russians pretty much based the AK on the STG

[Ajmichael]

SA80 L98A2

The latest model in incredibly reliable and stoppages are very rare. The rifle proved so accurate during testing that British Army marksmanship tests had to be redesigned to accommodate it. When used in a variety of combat situations there are still very few stoppages, whether it is in the dusty climates of Afghanistan or wet, muddy jungle on exercise in Brunei.

[Stronk Serb]

Here let's settle this now. The best assault rifle is obviously the STG/MP 44. It was the first.....or the M1 Garand I love garands <3

If it was so good, it would have been used by the East German army instead of the AK. Isn't the M1 Garand a 8 round semi-automatic rifle which makes that distinct sound when it runs out of ammo? That *chiiiiiing* sound? If it's that rifle, it is flawed, not fully auto, and I heard but I am not sure about the authrnticity of the source, it said that you cannot insert a new cartrige before you shoot the gun empty. I don't thing the Garand is even an assault rifle.

[Professional Russian]

If it was so good, it would have been used by the East German army instead of the AK. Isn't the M1 Garand a 8 round semi-automatic rifle which makes that distinct sound when it runs out of ammo? That *chiiiiiing* sound? If it's that rifle, it is flawed, not fully auto, and I heard but I am not sure about the authrnticity of the source, it said that you cannot insert a new cartrige before you shoot the gun empty. I don't thing the Garand is even an assault rifle.

Yeah but the only other gun in 30-06 idols the BAR which also love. The M1 won WWII for the US.

[Stronk Serb]

Yeah but the only other gun in 30-06 idols the BAR which also love. The M1 won WWII for the US.

Yeah. Better the M1 Garand and the M1A1 than that bolt-action thing, what's it called? Springfield 30-06? Correct me if I'm wrong, I know a lot about Eastern Bloc weapons, but do not know the full names of US weapons. The Russians had their PAPs which is a semi-automatic rifle, similar to the M1A1 and the Gewerh 43.

[Professional Russian]

Yeah. Better the M1 Garand and the M1A1 than that bolt-action thing, what's it called? Springfield 30-06? Correct me if I'm wrong, I know a lot about Eastern Bloc weapons, but do not know the full names of US weapons. The Russians had their PAPs which is a semi-automatic rifle, similar to the M1A1 and the Gewerh 43.

The Russians had the SKS too

[Stronk Serb]

The Russians had the SKS too

The PPSh also.

[Professional Russian]

Or an SKS. An AR-10 with a direct impingement gas system works.great also. Also the M14/M1A. You can also count the PPSH in for one.

The PPSh also.

Already mentioned both

[Stronk Serb]

Already mentioned both


Zastava Arms made 7.62x39 chambered MP-40s for our army. Thos packed a punch but jammed often.

[Harry Smith]

Nothing beats the Sten Gun, just don't drop it

[Stronk Serb]

Nothing beats the Sten Gun, just don't drop it

If it drops does it start shooting full-auto by itself? There were cases of our partisans accidentally dropping Stens and MP-40s. If the safety is off, whichever gun is dropped, it would start shooting and spinning uncontrolably while the partisans would run for cover. There were fatalities.

[Harry Smith]

If it drops does it start shooting full-auto by itself? There were cases of our partisans accidentally dropping Stens and MP-40s. If the safety is off, whichever gun is dropped, it would start shooting and spinning uncontrolably while the partisans would run for cover. There were fatalities.

Lool even if you had the safety on it would fire if left up against the wall. It was by far the worse gun of the war

[Professional Russian]

Nothing beats the Sten Gun, just don't drop it

Except. Uh. Every gun made since and before.

[Harry Smith]

Except. Uh. Every gun made since and before.

haha yeah I know, I'd rather have a Crossbow. And this poor bloke did, anyone interested in firearms has to check him out, only allied soldier to get a confirmed kill with a long bow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill

[Stronk Serb]

haha yeah I know, I'd rather have a Crossbow. And this poor bloke did, anyone interested in firearms has to check him out, only allied soldier to get a confirmed kill with a long bow.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill


That's how you do it. There was a partisan fighter nicknamed Cane Kurbla (kurbla- crank). He was using that crank which you use to start-up ancient cars. I wonder how much kills he got. That Mad Jack guy is pretty cool.

[Harry Smith]

That's how you do it. There was a partisan fighter nicknamed Cane Kurbla (kurbla- crank). He was using that crank which you use to start-up ancient cars. I wonder how much kills he got. That Mad Jack guy is pretty cool.

hahah that's classic, as long as it kills a german. I love mad jack, took out an italian mortar pit with a sword, that's style

[Professional Russian]

Ohhhhh I forgot about the FNH SCAR-17s I wish the army would switch to those. They are truly a great.weapon

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Ohhhhh I forgot about the FNH SCAR-17s I wish the army would switch to those. They are truly a great.weapon

Those are not to bad at all.
I'd have to say another contribution to this:
G3.

[Professional Russian]

Those are not to bad at all.
I'd have to say another contribution to this:
G3.

The H&K G3 is a fucking monster. That things heavy as hell

[Vladskie]

It obviously isn't a piece of shit since it is in service for 65 years now. Try burying your LE into mud, pull it out and fire it without proper barrel and firring mechanism cleaning, and then report to me.

The AK has looser tolerances allowing for less essential cleaning, but if you shoot an AK filled with mud, your going to have some problems. While its nice to have a gun that will run almost all the time, its also bad because it can lead you to neglecting to clean it, which will lead to it failing.

[MisterSix]

I think the AN-94 is the best assault rifle.
At the moment it isn't very good, but imagine a shotgun or sniper rifle with the rapid 2 burst system... good bye body armour

[Stronk Serb]

I think the AN-94 is the best assault rifle.
At the moment it isn't very good, but imagine a shotgun or sniper rifle with the rapid 2 burst system... good bye body armour

The gun is too expensive to become standard-issue, but I think the Russian Spetsnaz use it. The two bullet burst is an awesome thing. AN-94 Abakan is, by all means one of the best assault rifles. But the good old AK-47/74 is hard to beat since they are a lot cheaper and equally reliable. I saw some pictures of Serbian special forces units using the AN-94. The Groza is also good. All-in-one anti-personell weapons, both of the latter two.

[Professional Russian]

The knights armament SR25. Chambered for 7.62 NATO has an effective range of 400+ meters

[Stronk Serb]

The knights armament SR25. Chambered for 7.62 NATO has an effective range of 400+ meters


The AN-94 chambered for 5.45x39 has an effectife range of 700 meters.

[Professional Russian]

The AN-94 chambered for 5.45x39 has an effectife range of 700 meters.

The 308 has an effective range of 800+ yards but out of an AR and a 20 inch barrel its significantly reduced.

[PinkFloyd]

The tittle says it all, please add for what ammo you like it chambered.
My favourite is the AK-47 chambered for 7.62x39 bullets. Reliable, deadly, fairly accurrate.

I really can't think of an assault rifle that's better than the AK-47. The M4A1? No way... I wish the US used the AK...

[Professional Russian]

I really can't think of an assault rifle that's better than the AK-47. The M4A1? No way... I wish the US used the AK...

Why? The AK is inherently inacurrate.it also doesn't meet the requirements for eligibility for military testing.

[Stronk Serb]

The 308 has an effective range of 800+ yards but out of an AR and a 20 inch barrel its significantly reduced.


Too bad we're talking about assault rifles, not bullets, but yeah, .308 is the best rifle caliber.

[Stronk Serb]

Why? The AK is inherently inacurrate.it also doesn't meet the requirements for eligibility for military testing.

Since it is almost impossible to make it fuck up and is 5 times cheaper then the AR and packs more punch?

[Professional Russian]

Too bad we're talking about assault rifles, not bullets, but yeah, .308 is the best rifle caliber.

Since it is almost impossible to make it fuck up and is 5 times cheaper then the AR and packs more punch?

AR in 300 Blackout does and it won't fuck up. I can argue the 308 not.being the best..but I think long range not short.

[Stronk Serb]

AR in 300 Blackout does and it won't fuck up. I can argue the 308 not.being the best..but I think long range not short.


The 300 Blackout is more expensive then the AK. I read on Wikipedia that the US overnment price or something like that for the AK-47 was 130 $, while for the outdated M16 it was 650 $. For the newer AR models, I think it it even more. And, there are 500,000,000 AKs circulating in the world compared to 50,000,000 maximum of the AR rifle family weapons in the world.

[Professional Russian]

The 300 Blackout is more expensive then the AK. I read on Wikipedia that the US overnment price or something like that for the AK-47 was 130 $, while for the outdated M16 it was 650 $. For the newer AR models, I think it it even more. And, there are 500,000,000 AKs circulating in the world compared to 50,000,000 maximum of the AR rifle family weapons in the world.

But the AR is precise its modular. You attach anything you want on it. And its accurate. That's all the US cares about.

[PinkFloyd]

Why? The AK is inherently inacurrate.it also doesn't meet the requirements for eligibility for military testing.

You have a point, but its durability is excellent. I'm not arguing back when I say this. I am actually wondering. Is there another assault rifle that the US could use that isn't so unreliable?

[Stronk Serb]

You have a point, but its durability is excellent. I'm not arguing back when I say this. I am actually wondering. Is there another assault rifle that the US could use that isn't so unreliable?


The US Armed forces don't use it since it is not made in the United States.

But the AR is precise its modular. You attach anything you want on it. And its accurate. That's all the US cares about.


Still, I was going to war, I would rather have an AK which would not fuck up even when I want it to.


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[Professional Russian]

Well depending on where we're fighting dictates what I'll take. If we're going to Korea/Vietnam no doubt I'd want an AK and a Glock 21 but if we're in Iraq I want an SR25

[PinkFloyd]

The US Armed forces don't use it since it is not made in the United States.

Figures, I guess.

[Stronk Serb]

Well depending on where we're fighting dictates what I'll take. If we're going to Korea/Vietnam no doubt I'd want an AK and a Glock 21 but if we're in Iraq I want an SR25



Goodbye darlin'! Hello Vietnam!
Kiss me goodbye and write me letters while I'm gone!

I would take the AN-94, it is expensive like your ARs, but it's great. Two bullet burst where the two bullets are tightly grouped. Since it's for 700 meters, I got a large part of the distance covered.

[Professional Russian]

The HK 416. Just remembered it

[Vocabulous]

agreed m4 the ak47 is powerful but not accurate
sounds like you need a galil. (basically a modified ak47 with better hindsight and chambered for 5.56)

[Stronk Serb]

sounds like you need a galil. (basically a modified ak47 with better hindsight and chambered for 5.56)

5.56 chambered rifles tend to be more accurate then the 7.62 ones, the catch is, they have less penetration power. I would take the AK because it can put you down in one shot, opposed to 2-3 shots from an M4

[Vocabulous]

5.56 chambered rifles tend to be more accurate then the 7.62 ones, the catch is, they have less penetration power. I would take the AK because it can put you down in one shot, opposed to 2-3 shots from an M4

5.56 do cause more internal damage because they tumble, but yeah they do lack power

[thatcountrykid]

I like the LaRue tactical rifles chambered in 7.62-39. It gives you the knock down of the ak but the versatility and costomization of the m4.

[EternalSadness]

I think the MP44 (StG 44 or whatever you want to call it) it WAS the first assault rifle! It chambered 7.92x33mm rounds which would've been potent, you had revolutionary Vampyr scopes, it had a high effective range, there was nothing remotely comparable at the time and it was heavy and so, subsequently, accuracy was helped. However I'd say the AK47 was the next best, as everyone has said, it's accurate, deadly and unbelievably reliable, not to mention parts, and bullets, are very cheap in a lot of the world. The M4 and M16's are good but they never started off good, the AK was a good weapon to start with, but the Americans had to spend so long perfecting the M16 from jamming and other problems. But we'd have no AK without the German engineers who worked on the MP44 who were recruited by the soviets, so MP44 all the way for me.

[roadwarrior]

FN SCAR-Light are the the best rifle for me, It's so very powerful and has a light weight...

[britishboy]

Intercontinental ballistic missiles are my favorite, who needs an assault rifle

[Stronk Serb]

Intercontinental ballistic missiles are my favorite, who needs an assault rifle

They cost more, a million times more. They need a silo, which costs more, a million times more. They cost more maintenance, a million times more. And it is impractical if you have a couple of dozen targets.

[britishboy]

They cost more, a million times more. They need a silo, which costs more, a million times more. They cost more maintenance, a million times more. And it is impractical if you have a couple of dozen targets.

but they look cool:D no my favorite weapons are cluster bombs, snipers and for assult rifles, something powerful but accurate, I was joking about the nukes:D

[Twilly F. Sniper]

The US Armed forces don't use it since it is not made in the United States.




Still, I was going to war, I would rather have an AK which would not fuck up even when I want it to.


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

An M32 MGL was originally made in South Africa? MP5, Germany?
AKs are reliable but they actually had a jamming issue from how it fires.


For me? To me the best Assault Rifle is the HK416. Its like an improved M4.

[Stronk Serb]

An M32 MGL was originally made in South Africa? MP5, Germany?
AKs are reliable but they actually had a jamming issue from how it fires.


For me? To me the best Assault Rifle is the HK416. Its like an improved M4.


The M32 is a grenade launcher, while the MP5 is a sub machine gun.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

The M32 is a grenade launcher, while the MP5 is a sub machine gun.

SCARs were originally made in Belgium? What about that?

[Stronk Serb]

SCARs were originally made in Belgium? What about that?

They use it because it was made in a NATO country. But during the Vietnam War, the US used only weapons it manufactured.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

They use it because it was made in a NATO country. But during the Vietnam War, the US used only weapons it manufactured.

Never said that but that's true.

[pieman10]

Sa80a2