Log in

View Full Version : Gender effecting who a person is?


Kuurachan
June 2nd, 2013, 01:19 PM
I was having an argument with my two older sisters today coming back from church about gender placing a person in a role in the world. I personally have no interest whatsoever in just getting married & raising a family. On the contrary, I'd rather join the army than continue my "legacy" & live MY life than build the foundation for children. I don't mean to sound selfish, but I don't find it to be what I am meant to be. My older sister, 19, said gender makes the biggest difference in who a person is. That girls are naturally motherly & meant cook, clean and take care of kids, boys are naturally rough and meant to be protective.
She said that a family can only be prosperous if there is a wife and husband. I believe that a person is %1 gender, %1 memory and raising & %98 who they are inside simply by who THEY ARE. When people say I'll never make it in the army, I'm too young to know if I'm getting married or not I get so angry. All marriage has conflict, it's who the people are that make it work, so gay marriages & sexless marriages would depend on how the two people worked together to make it work through any problems. I know this is just my opinion and nobody agrees completely on this, and also my family is more conservative than me. I just thought it would be wise to seek the opinions of others besides my family who is obviously not listening to a word I'm saying, keeping on drawing my age to attention, so what do you all think? You can agree or not, but I'd like hearing the thoughts of at least a few who are not homophobic.

britishboy
June 2nd, 2013, 01:31 PM
I was having an argument with my two older sisters today coming back from church about gender placing a person in a role in the world. I personally have no interest whatsoever in just getting married & raising a family. On the contrary, I'd rather join the army than continue my "legacy" & live MY life than build the foundation for children. I don't mean to sound selfish, but I don't find it to be what I am meant to be. My older sister, 19, said gender makes the biggest difference in who a person is. That girls are naturally motherly & meant cook, clean and take care of kids, boys are naturally rough and meant to be protective.
She said that a family can only be prosperous if there is a wife and husband. I believe that a person is %1 gender, %1 memory and raising & %98 who they are inside simply by who THEY ARE. When people say I'll never make it in the army, I'm too young to know if I'm getting married or not I get so angry. All marriage has conflict, it's who the people are that make it work, so gay marriages & sexless marriages would depend on how the two people worked together to make it work through any problems. I know this is just my opinion and nobody agrees completely on this, and also my family is more conservative than me. I just thought it would be wise to seek the opinions of others besides my family who is obviously not listening to a word I'm saying, keeping on drawing my age to attention, so what do you all think? You can agree or not, but I'd like hearing the thoughts of at least a few who are not homophobic.

yeah they are old views and women are allowed in most services. in britian women will be serving on naval subs soon leaving only the royal commandos and sas not allowing women in. you can and should be able to do whatever you want.

Miserabilia
June 2nd, 2013, 01:34 PM
I think that biologically gender makes a difference in how people act BUT:::
Poeple have evolved to be intelligent enough to have your own thoughts and actions.
Therefore, gender only makes a difference in our primary instincts and feelings, but not in our thoughts and plans for the future. ;)

Ace of Spades
June 2nd, 2013, 01:37 PM
Gender is a social construct. Sex is biological.

Gigablue
June 2nd, 2013, 03:49 PM
There are differences between personality traits of men and women, but they are not as significant as people think. The difference between men and women is far less than the variation within either group.

I think gender has some influence on who someone is, but mainly though societal pressures to conform to gender norms. Biologically, there probably isn't much of an effect.

Camazotz
June 2nd, 2013, 05:54 PM
There are differences between personality traits of men and women, but they are not as significant as people think. The difference between men and women is far less than the variation within either group.

I think gender has some influence on who someone is, but mainly though societal pressures to conform to gender norms. Biologically, there probably isn't much of an effect.

Oh, I disagree. Males and females have different chemicals/hormones in their body that affect how they brain processes information. Therefore, perception itself varies among men and women; women tend to (not always) use emotions to make judgement whereas men tend to use what's in front of them. There has been plenty of gender research in the field of psychology, and you can look up the differences on the web, if you'd like.

I think that biologically gender makes a difference in how people act BUT:::
Poeple have evolved to be intelligent enough to have your own thoughts and actions.
Therefore, gender only makes a difference in our primary instincts and feelings, but not in our thoughts and plans for the future. ;)

I think gender has an influence on how we think, which can influence how we perceive our potential. There aren't a specific set of rules that each gender has to follow, but they tend to follow a similar pattern throughout history, which can be explained through evolutionary psychology.

britishboy
June 2nd, 2013, 06:57 PM
Oh, I disagree. Males and females have different chemicals/hormones in their body that affect how they brain processes information. Therefore, perception itself varies among men and women; women tend to (not always) use emotions to make judgement whereas men tend to use what's in front of them. There has been plenty of gender research in the field of psychology, and you can look up the differences on the web, if you'd like.



I think gender has an influence on how we think, which can influence how we perceive our potential. There aren't a specific set of rules that each gender has to follow, but they tend to follow a similar pattern throughout history, which can be explained through evolutionary psychology.

and what about homosexuality?

Croconaw
June 2nd, 2013, 07:00 PM
Gender should never matter. :|

Cygnus
June 2nd, 2013, 07:07 PM
Religion makes people think that way, however there are some characteristics that differentiate males and females, males are more protective and rough for a reason, they develop much more muscles. Females take care of babies (at least for a while) because they have breasts and have to feed them. Those characteristics can't really be changed, however gender does not really matter in who you are or should be, that is true.

Appypollylogges
June 2nd, 2013, 07:32 PM
The fact that I should or shouldn't pertain to a certain set of traits completely disturbs me.
Gender doesn't make me the person I am. If I was a woman, I'd be the same on the inside.

Gigablue
June 2nd, 2013, 08:20 PM
Oh, I disagree. Males and females have different chemicals/hormones in their body that affect how they brain processes information. Therefore, perception itself varies among men and women; women tend to (not always) use emotions to make judgement whereas men tend to use what's in front of them. There has been plenty of gender research in the field of psychology, and you can look up the differences on the web, if you'd like.

I didn't mean to suggest that men and women are the same. I just meant that the difference within either men or women is much greater than that between them. That is to say, many women fit into a typically male range for a given trait and vice versa.

Camazotz
June 2nd, 2013, 09:14 PM
and what about homosexuality?

Homosexual men tend to have a larger hypothalamus, releasing hormones similar to a heterosexual woman's. So they would tend to be similar to how a woman might behave, while also retaining the typical man might behave. There haven't been enough conclusive studies or research for me to safely claim these ideas, though.

I didn't mean to suggest that men and women are the same. I just meant that the difference within either men or women is much greater than that between them. That is to say, many women fit into a typically male range for a given trait and vice versa.

I see. In which case, I agree with you.