the falklands, British?

[britishboy]

hey guys just wanted to hear your opinion on the Falkland islands, they are currently british and 99% voted to stay british, but 30 years ago argentina tryed to invade and were repelled by a british task force, should they be british ir Argentine? there argument is that the falklands are in there water

[tovaris]

Argentina tried to reclame whet is theirs while the British emprialists tried to protect what is theirs

[britishboy]

Argentina tried to reclame whet is theirs while the British emprialists tried to protect what is theirs

so who do you think should have them?

[Harry Smith]

Argentina tried to reclame whet is theirs while the British emprialists tried to protect what is theirs

Great, just throw in the word imperialists. It really highlights your biased nature. The islands belong to us under international law, and when they attacked in '82 they breached British sovereignty. The island is british

[tovaris]

Great, just throw in the word imperialists. It really highlights your biased nature. The islands belong to us under international law, and when they attacked in '82 they breached British sovereignty. The island is british

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[britishboy]

Great, just throw in the word imperialists. It really highlights your biased nature. The islands belong to us under international law, and when they attacked in '82 they breached British sovereignty. The island is british

he thinks anything from the west must be bad, they actually voted to stay british, only 3 people wanted otherwise

[tovaris]

Im not an expert or do know nich about the area but it would be wery esely solvable to make the independant.

[britishboy]

Im not an expert or do know nich about the area but it would be wery esely solvable to make the independant.

they dont want independence, stop talking out your ass

[tovaris]

they dont want independence, stop talking out your ass

Yust a sugestion jžšna, it would solve a lot of things thow

[Harry Smith]

Im not an expert or do know nich about the area but it would be wery esely solvable to make the independant.

3,000 people live on the island, they would go bankrupt in about two hours. They couldn't survive on their own

[tovaris]

3,000 people live on the island, they would go bankrupt in about two hours. They couldn't survive on their own

Ah it the western world can keep kosovo alive they can make a vilege of 30 A country.
Also Monaco?... stil not bankrupt

[britishboy]

Yust a sugestion jžšna, it would solve a lot of things thow

well when 99% want us and risk being killed to stay british, I cant help but get the feeling that they want us?

[Human]

I think they're definitely British.
I'm pretty sure we colonised it first (correct me if i'm wrong)
Plus, if the islands inhabitants want it to stay British then why not? I'm sure they're more safer under our rule than being Argentinean...

[Harry Smith]

Ah it the western world can keep kosovo alive they can make a vilege of 30 A country.
Also Monaco?... stil not bankrupt

Kosovo is unrelated. Kosovo has an economy of it's own. Monaco is heavily supported by france, and is a tax haven meaning they get a lot of wealthy residents.

The Falklands is different, they don't have any major exports. Monaco is connected by land, the Falklands is an island. How could they afford to maintain an army? Or health services?

[tovaris]

Kosovo is unrelated. Kosovo has an economy of it's own. Monaco is heavily supported by france, and is a tax haven meaning they get a lot of wealthy residents.

The Falklands is different, they don't have any major exports. Monaco is connected by land, the Falklands is an island. How could they afford to maintain an army? Or health services?

Army is unnecesery, i do see your point in the finance sfere thow.

[britishboy]

Army is unnecesery, i do see your point in the finance sfere thow.

and the second london announces they are no longer a crown country and unprotected, a Argentine task force will be setting sail for the islands

[tovaris]

and the second london announces they are no longer a crown country and unprotected, a Argentine task force will be setting sail for the islands

No reason for that left because the country would be free to make any aliance it wanted

[britishboy]

No reason for that left because the country would be free to make any aliance it wanted

your right and THEY CHOOSE TO BE BRITISH with british protection... why does this confuse you? they are proud and happy to be british

[tovaris]

your right and THEY CHOOSE TO BE BRITISH with british protection... why does this confuse you? they are proud and happy to be british

They can stil align themselves as a co6ntry with the british as long as tbey have their independance

[britishboy]

They can stil align themselves as a co6ntry with the british as long as tbey have their independance

they voted to stay british... they had the choice and its the protection they want so much, its the title, they can say 'i am british' they are extremely proud

[Cygnus]

How about getting the population to do a democratic vote on who they prefer to be part of? That could be fair. I am still undecided on who should have them though since they are geographically Argentina's but Argentina is not really a loved country in latin america.

[tovaris]

they voted to stay british... they had the choice and its the protection they want so much, its the title, they can say 'i am british' they are extremely proud

Ever heard of the Koroška (Carinthia) plebjscit, when slovenians in Koroška decided to lieve in austria insted of the kingdom of Yugoslavia they are regretting that decision every moment since to this day.

[britishboy]

How about getting the population to do a democratic vote on who they prefer to be part of? That could be fair. I am still undecided on who should have them though since they are geographically Argentina's but Argentina is not really a loved country in latin america.

they have voted recently and 99% voted to stay, only 3 people wanted not to and its thought they might have wanted independence

[Harry Smith]

Ever heard of the Koroška (Carinthia) plebjscit, when slovenians in Koroška decided to lieve in austria insted of the kingdom of Yugoslavia they are regretting that decision every moment since to this day.

what does this have to do the with the Falklands?

[tovaris]

what does this have to do the with the Falklands?

Same thing diferent part of the world.

[Harry Smith]

Same thing diferent part of the world.

no, you can't just apply the rule of one country across the whole world. Every single nation is different.

The Falklands have only ever belonged to Britain, there is no dispute about it. The people there play cricket, they have pubs. They have the full British culture, they've voted to stay under Britain. There isn't really much argument- the british flag flies over port Stanley

[britishboy]

Same thing diferent part of the world.

but they want us, they can go if they want, they enjoy being british and the benefits of it, one minute you want them to vote the next a vote is not good enough, just because your mad and hate us doesn't mean everyone does

[tovaris]

no, you can't just apply the rule of one country across the whole world. Every single nation is different.

The Falklands have only ever belonged to Britain, there is no dispute about it. The people there play cricket, they have pubs. They have the full British culture, they've voted to stay under Britain. There isn't really much argument- the british flag flies over port Stanley

The point here is that ehat may seem as angood decision now may turn out as a bad one historicly. Maybe not independance but a perlament like scotland or a asembely like n ireland would be better.

[Harry Smith]

The point here is that ehat may seem as angood decision now may turn out as a bad one historicly. Maybe not independance but a perlament like scotland or a asembely like n ireland would be better.

there are only 2,000 people, more people live in my town than that. They're an overseas territory which means that they pass there own laws to do with local issues but they rely on us for defence.

You can't have a parliment for 2,000 people, that's stupid. They voted to be British. End of.

[tovaris]

there are only 2,000 people, more people live in my town than that. They're an overseas territory which means that they pass there own laws to do with local issues but they rely on us for defence.

You can't have a parliment for 2,000 people, that's stupid. They voted to be British. End of.

Wasnt that nomber higher just before?
Anyway i said i didnt know much abour the thing it was only a sugestion to withc you reacted with all you canons morters and gas.
Quite honestly i dont care what they do as long as they make decisions (not necesary smart ones) for themselves without presure and can govern their land its exaptible.

Hipotetacly they didnt vote for britan would they use force to keep them anyway?

[Harry Smith]

Wasnt that nomber higher just before?
Anyway i said i didnt know much abour the thing it was only a sugestion to withc you reacted with all you canons morters and gas.
Quite honestly i dont care what they do as long as they make decisions (not necesary smart ones) for themselves without presure and can govern their land its exaptible.

Hipotetacly they didnt vote for britan would they use force to keep them anyway?

sorry the population is 2,932.... What are you talking about? Mortars? Cannons? Gas?

They did make a decision, in a free vote. And they voted for Britain. There is no point going into the realms of fantasy

[tovaris]

sorry the population is 2,932.... What are you talking about? Mortars? Cannons? Gas?

They did make a decision, in a free vote. And they voted for Britain. There is no point going into the realms of fantasy

Thats nice, but they should be cerful so thet this decision doesn't backfire on them.

[britishboy]

Thats nice, but they should be cerful so thet this decision doesn't backfire on them.

they have been british for centuries, and are proud and happy to be, theyre doing fine

[tovaris]

they have been british for centuries, and are proud and happy to be, theyre doing fine

We'll see

[britishboy]

We'll see

and what do you think will go wrong and you dont understand this, they are british, they are proud and risk there lives for that title, and next to all them third world countries, theyre doing great

[Ajmichael]

They do actually have their own parliament, called the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly and are not a colony, they are a Dependant Overseas Territory. The only aspect of politics in the Falklands under the control of Westminster is Foreign Policy and Defence, although they also have their own Falkland Islands Defence Force that works closely with the British Garrison in the region. The fact that 99.8% of the population agreed to maintain the current realationship with Britain I think proves beyond all reasonable doubt that they wish to remain British. The chances are that the three people who voted 'no' would rather see the Falklands as independant i.e. not under the control of anybody.

[Bethany]

As much as I wish the Falklands were Argentinean, they are British, as decided by the people of the islands.

The Argentinean argument is that the people in the Falklands/Malvinas are illegal immigrants, a population implanted by the British government. This was true when the islands first came into Britain's control, but considering the people there are culturally British and choose to remain under British control, the islands are British.

[britishboy]

As much as I wish the Falklands were Argentinean, they are British, as decided by the people of the islands.

The Argentinean argument is that the people in the Falklands/Malvinas are illegal immigrants, a population implanted by the British government. This was true when the islands first came into Britain's control, but considering the people there are culturally British and choose to remain under British control, the islands are British.

why do you want them to be Argentine?

[Ajmichael]

The Argentinean argument is that the people in the Falklands/Malvinas are illegal immigrants, a population implanted by the British government.

But they can't possibly be 'illegal immigrants', that is just one of Argentina's ludicrous arguments to try and convince people to support them. Before the British landed on the Islands, they were not claimed by anybody and there was no indigenous population, thus there were no laws and they cannot be illegal. The only population that has ever been expelled from the islands was a Spanish garrison that was there illegally and Spain conceded the point. The fact is that Argentina claims that the islands have been theirs since 1831, just 15 years after Argentina became and independent republic from Spain. Maybe if the people in Argentina of Spanish descent left the country so that the indigenous people of Argentina, prior to colonisation by Spain, can take over their country again they might have a stronger argument?