Opinion on Homosexuality

[ukbiboy]

So I'm just wondering what people think about homosexuality. Is it okay or not?

Personally I believe you cannot choose your sexuality but you can choose if you are open about this and actual take it to the level of having a relationship with a opposite sex.

However, I saw a certain forum member post something I also agreed with. Once again science has changed my views. Scientifically speaking EVERYONE is born with the instincts of being attracted to the opposite sex but your upbringing and choices determine your sexuality. However, for example, downs syndrome is caused by a mutated chromosome in DNA, maybe this is the same for sexuality? Maybe your instincts have a "mutated chromosome" metaphorically speaking.

Religion again, that's another thing. Some people are brought up in a religion where homosexuality is wrong and that shapes their opinion and views. There are many cases where people are brought up in a religion believing homosexuality is wrong and is brought up around people who believe the same but are actually homosexual. If they are brought up with people who believe homosexuality is wrong then surely that would shape their opinions and views to see likewise.

What are your views on homosexuality?

[Sordid Saint]

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[BrandonA]

Coming from a Christian background and rather a conservative family, I have always been taught homosexuality is wrong and not of nature. But I don't care if your gay or not. People should like you for The way you are. But I'll go out and say it: I do not support gay marriage.

[chargersfan]

So I'm just wondering what people think about homosexuality. Is it okay or not?

Personally I believe you cannot choose your sexuality but you can choose if you are open about this and actual take it to the level of having a relationship with a opposite sex.

However, I saw a certain forum member post something I also agreed with. Once again science has changed my views. Scientifically speaking EVERYONE is born with the instincts of being attracted to the opposite sex but your upbringing and choices determine your sexuality. However, for example, downs syndrome is caused by a mutated chromosome in DNA, maybe this is the same for sexuality? Maybe your instincts have a "mutated chromosome" metaphorically speaking.

Religion again, that's another thing. Some people are brought up in a religion where homosexuality is wrong and that shapes their opinion and views. There are many cases where people are brought up in a religion believing homosexuality is wrong and is brought up around people who believe the same but are actually homosexual. If they are brought up with people who believe homosexuality is wrong then surely that would shape their opinions and views to see likewise.

What are your views on homosexuality?



Well I'm gay so obviously I'm accepting of it.

That having been said, there have been studies (This only applies to gay males) that the more older brothers you have (Or half brothers as long as it was on your mother's side) the more likely you are to be gay. The reason for that is because when a woman is pregnant with a male, she builds up stronger antibodies against a male embryo/fetus in her uterus because her body detects it as a foreign object, and somehow these antibodies make it more likely for the child to be homosexual. Therefore the more times she gets pregnant with a male, the stronger the antibodies will be, therefore the more likely the child is to be gay.

[IAMWILL]

Well being that, according to the American Psychological Association, homosexuality's origins seem to be a mix of nature and nurture, I am certainly accepting of it. I wouldn't call it normal, as only about 2-10% of the population is homosexual (its a really hard thing to estimate apparently, I can't find any good studies), but its not like its a disease or something that a person should be worried about.

I really don't understand organizations/groups that say just being homosexual is wrong/sinful.

[xXl0sth0peXx]

Well, what's your opinion on Heterosexuality?

Yup, my opinion on Homosexuality is the same as mine on Heterosexuality, Bisexuality, Asexuality, Pansexuality, and more. Nothing more needed.


However, for example, downs syndrome is caused by a mutated chromosome in DNA, maybe this is the same for sexuality? Maybe your instincts have a "mutated chromosome" metaphorically speaking.

That's like saying that if it's normal to like the color red and you like the color green, you have a 'mutated chromosome'.

[GigglyAbby]

So I'm just wondering what people think about homosexuality. Is it okay or not?

I have no problem if one is bisexual or homosexual as I'm bi. I'd hope people can simply be honest about their sexuality and they can take every effort to engage in SAFER sex. I hear that people are on the DL [down low] and from what I've heard it can be quite dangerous due to the sting of being cheated on or contracting a STI or HIV/AIDS


Personally I believe you cannot choose your sexuality but you can choose if you are open about this and actual take it to the level of having a relationship with a opposite sex.

Do you mean same sex? I think the only choices are to fantasize about the same or both genders or actually engage in same or both sex acts.


However, I saw a certain forum member post something I also agreed with. Once again science has changed my views. Scientifically speaking EVERYONE is born with the instincts of being attracted to the opposite sex but your upbringing and choices determine your sexuality. However, for example, downs syndrome is caused by a mutated chromosome in DNA, maybe this is the same for sexuality? Maybe your instincts have a "mutated chromosome" metaphorically speaking.

I too am unsure of how one's sexuality is determined. Is it based on genetics? Is it pre-determined at birth? Does lacking a relationship with one or both parents determine one could be non-heterosexual? Does living in an unstable and perhaps abusive environment have a bearing on one's sexuality?

Religion again, that's another thing. Some people are brought up in a religion where homosexuality is wrong and that shapes their opinion and views. There are many cases where people are brought up in a religion believing homosexuality is wrong and is brought up around people who believe the same but are actually homosexual. If they are brought up with people who believe homosexuality is wrong then surely that would shape their opinions and views to see likewise.

I'm Catholic and that religion is set to be one of the biggest opponents of Bis or gays. Guess what? I'm Bi and my family supports me. My specific church is one of the Catholic churches that only chastises non-heterosexuals and non-married [heterosexual] couples living together when they're acting on their urges that contradict the bible. It's quite sad that non-heterosexuals are being unfairly targeted by religious fanatics when anywhere from 85-97% of society are straight and other immoral or sexually immoral sins aren't being chastised as much as homosexuality is. I won't deny it's a sin but there is more sexually immoral acts being committed that don't end up [rebuking these acts] on Social Media.

[IAMWILL]

I'm Catholic and that religion is set to be one of the biggest opponents of Bis or gays. Guess what? I'm Bi and my family supports me. My specific church is one of the Catholic churches that only chastises non-heterosexuals and non-married [heterosexual] couples living together when they're acting on their urges that contradict the bible. It's quite sad that non-heterosexuals are being unfairly targeted by religious fanatics when anywhere from 85-97% of society are straight and other immoral or sexually immoral sins aren't being chastised as much as homosexuality is. I won't deny it's a sin but there is more sexually immoral acts being committed that don't end up [rebuking these acts] on Social Media.

The Catholic Church teaches that all homosexuals should be treated with dignity and respect, and that all actions taken against them should be reprimanded. Also, the Catholic Church derives almost all of its teaching, including this teaching, from reason and logic alone, not the Bible. It teaches that homosexuality itself is not a sin, only homosexual acts are. In fact, any sexual act that isn't between a married man and woman (there some exceptions within that though) is immoral. That's why your local church will speak out against any couple that isn't a married heterosexual couple.

[Ace of Spades]

The Catholic Church teaches that all homosexuals should be treated with dignity and respect, and that all actions taken against them should be reprimanded. Also, the Catholic Church derives almost all of its teaching, including this teaching, from reason and logic alone, not the Bible. It teaches that homosexuality itself is not a sin, only homosexual acts are. In fact, any sexual act that isn't between a married man and woman (there some exceptions within that though) is immoral.

Logic and reason. Because aiding Nazi war criminals is logical and reasonable.

While certain texts do say what you claim, the Catholic institution does not support or follow them.

[IAMWILL]

Logic and reason. Because aiding Nazi war criminals is logical and reasonable.

While certain texts do say what you claim, the Catholic institution does not support or follow them.

I would be delighted if you would elaborate on your post.

[GigglyAbby]

The Catholic Church teaches that all homosexuals should be treated with dignity and respect, and that all actions taken against them should be reprimanded. Also, the Catholic Church derives almost all of its teaching, including this teaching, from reason and logic alone, not the Bible. It teaches that homosexuality itself is not a sin, only homosexual acts are. In fact, any sexual act that isn't between a married man and woman (there some exceptions within that though) is immoral. That's why your local church will speak out against any couple that isn't a married heterosexual couple.

My grandmother had said that back in her day -- Roman Catholics frowned on one's sexuality whether they act on it or not. She said back then if you were a straight couple and unmarried -- you were chastised. Now it appears that there's only an issue if you're unmarried and it's apparent you are sexually active with one another.

Sorry that I wasn't clear on my last sentence BUT I wasn't attributing it to Catholicism but to religion in general. There are at least 2 videos that spiraled on Social Media -- a church leader saying all ****** need to be burned and then this kid who sang and referenced a biblical quote stating "aint no ***** gonna make it to heaven." The verse the kid used listed acts including sexual immorality that are sinful and COULD lessen your risk of going to heaven. However -- one who is sinful still can go to heaven IF they change their ways and turn from the past. Since non-heterosexuals are lesser of the population of the people referenced in that verse -- why aren't church leaders and members so vocal and even hateful [I know technically if you're practicing a religion you can chastise but spewing hate is also sin] on more severe immoral acts?

[Ace of Spades]

I would be delighted if you would elaborate on your post.

After the Berlin Blockade of 1948 made a stronger Germany important for U.S. geo-political interests, clemency boards were established for many of the convicted Nazis. Within only a few years, sentences were commuted, pardons granted and prisoners allowed time off for good behaviour. By 1951 a general amnesty was granted and in the end, 77 Nazi convicts were set free.
Some freed or escaped Nazi leaders assumed new identities in Germany, Austria, South America or Arab countries, helped by various organisations and institutions. These included: ODESSA (an organisation of former SS men), the Catholic Church and even intelligence agencies, who wanted to use their military and scientific 'expertise' in their war against communism.

The entire era, 1932-1945 has left an evil legacy for the Catholic Church. Although many have argued that the Catholic Church lived in fear and under the thumb of a dictator, therefore the Church was powerless to help the enemies of the Third Reich. Perhaps we can give the Vatican the benefit of the doubt in February 1942, but what about in December 1944 or March 1945. Was the Catholic Church living in fear of a Nazi invasion in April 1945? Was the Church fearful of reprisals in May of 1945 by wondering SS divisions? No, the Catholic Church, not only intentionally helped Nazi war criminals escape justice, but helped them establish new lives in foreign countries. The Vatican used every means at their disposal to assist war criminals, including dressing SS officers in priests clothing and laundering hundreds of millions of gold bullion through Vatican banking channels. Granted that humanitarianism is one of the Church’s missions to fulfill on this earth, but does this mission of brotherly love include harboring escaped murderers and war criminals? Granted that love of ones neighbor is one of the bedrock principles of the Church, but does that include covering up the sins of former members of the SS who willing sinned against their fellow human beings? These questions I will leave to readers to decide for themselves.
Intermingled within the crowds of displaced persons were some of Europe’s most notorious war criminals, individuals who had the blood of millions on their hands. Just before the end of the war, the Holy See’s Secretariat of State conducted a lobbying campaign to provide spiritual and material assistance to the impoverished. The Vatican has "consistently claimed that they were unaware of the identity of those who were undeserving of their humanitarian assistance." Unfortunately, a number of high ranking priests not only knew who these wanted war criminals were, they actively sought these men out, gave them extra assistance and afforded them benefits that very few people received throughout the war years.
Years later it became public knowledge that war criminals like Klaus Barbie, Adolf Eichmann, Heinrich Mueller, Josef Bluemle, Franz Stangl and a whole list of other war criminals escaped war torn Europe via the Catholic Church. Most of these men escaped through the work of one man, a Roman Catholic Bishop named Alois Hudal, Rector of the Pontificio Santa Maria dell’ Anima. "During the war Hudal served as Commissioner or the Episcopate for German speaking Catholics in Italy, as well as Father Confessor to Rome’s German community." Hudal harbored anti-Semitic feelings and his pro Nazi stance was well known throughout the Catholic community. During Hitler’s rule, Bishop Hudal often spoke about the unity between the Catholic Church and the Nazi government.
In Gitta Sereny’s book Into That Darkness, Stangl described how Bishop Hudal was expecting Stangl (it seemed he expected over a hundred war criminals), and that he was arranging papers, passports, an exit visa and work permits for South America. Hudal arranged Stangl’s sleeping quarters, transportation, via a car, plane, ship, and seemed to have plenty of money for extra pay offs, bribes and emergency’s that may arise. Hudal had contacts with the German Red Cross, the American Office of Strategic Services, British Intelligence, and even seemed well connected to two well known Nazi escape organizations, ODESSA and DIE SPINNE. Both of these organizations were well financed, connected, and secretly assisted ex Nazi officers to find new homes in the Middle East, South America and even the United States. Simon Wiesenthal has argued on numerous occasions, that Nazis, who were seeking an escape, knew they had to go to the Vatican and find Bishop Hudal. Wiesenthal believed that Stangl had the same help that his two good friends, Gustav Wagner, former Deputy Commandant of Sobibor, and Alois Brunner, a former commander of a mobile killing squad in Russia, received when they escaped Allied justice. According to several credible witnesses, Bishop Hudal was a very close friend with Walter Rauff, an ambitious SS officer who oversaw the development program for the mobile gas vans. Their friendship began around 1943 and many believed their friendship remained until Rauff’s death.
After the sudden death of Cardinal Magione in August of 1944, Pope Pius XII decided not to appoint a new Secretary of State and assumed personal responsibility over foreign affairs. One of the Pope’s closest advisors became Monsignors Domenico Tardini and Giovani Montini, the latter being a very close personal friend of Bishop Hudal. Once the war ended Bishop instantly transformed himself from a pro Fascist into an ardent anti Communist who sought potential allies in his holy crusade against Communism. Hudal convinced Montini that a lenient policy was needed with those individuals who were Catholic, anti Communist, and deemed valuable to the upcoming struggle against Communism. Martini and Tardini convinced his Holiness the Pope and ex Nazi war criminals flooded out of Europe to find new homes around the world. Eventually the Pope appointed Bishop Hudal the Vatican’s official Spiritual Director of the German People and was ordered to visit all of the German POW camps in order to find those worthy anti Communists and give them special assistance with the eternal blessing of the Vatican’s Holy Office. U.S Intelligence agencies knew Bishop Hudal’s mission and even helped provide transportation, living quarters and even identity papers for some of Hudal’s chosen few. Over 30,000 Nazi war criminals made their way to freedom and a new life. ODESSA was an amateur escape organization when compared to the Vatican RATLINE. A large number of these escaped criminals were not even German, thousands were eastern European collaborators who willingly killed for the Nazis.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~confido/catholic.html

Bishop Alois Hudal was rector of the Pontificio Istituto Teutonico Santa Maria dell'Anima in Rome, a seminary for Austrian and German priests, and "Spiritual Director of the German People resident in Italy". After the end of the war in Italy, Hudal became active in ministering to German-speaking prisoners of war and internees then held in camps throughout Italy. In December 1944 the Vatican Secretariat of State received permission to appoint a representative to "visit the German-speaking civil internees in Italy", a job assigned to Hudal.
Hudal used this position to aid the escape of wanted Nazi war criminals, including Franz Stangl, commanding officer of Treblinka, Gustav Wagner, commanding officer of Sobibor, Alois Brunner, responsible for the Drancy internment camp near Paris and in charge of deportations in Slovakia to German concentration camps, and Adolf Eichmann— a fact about which he was later unashamedly open. Some of these wanted men were being held in internment camps: generally without identity papers, they would be enrolled in camp registers under false names. Other Nazis were in hiding in Italy, and sought Hudal out as his role in assisting escapes became known on the Nazi grapevine.
In his memoirs Hudal said of his actions "I thank God that He [allowed me] to visit and comfort many victims in their prisons and concentration camps and to help them escape with false identity papers."He explained that in his eyes:
"The Allies' War against Germany was not a crusade, but the rivalry of economic complexes for whose victory they had been fighting. This so-called business ... used catchwords like democracy, race, religious liberty and Christianity as a bait for the masses. All these experiences were the reason why I felt duty bound after 1945 to devote my whole charitable work mainly to former National Socialists and Fascists, especially to so-called 'war criminals'."
According to Mark Aarons and John Loftus in their book Unholy Trinity, Hudal was the first Catholic priest to dedicate himself to establishing escape routes. Aarons and Loftus claim that Hudal provided the objects of his charity with money to help them escape, and more importantly with false papers including identity documents issued by the Vatican Refugee Organisation (Commissione Pontificia d'Assistenza).
These Vatican papers were not full passports, and not in themselves enough to gain passage overseas. They were, rather, the first stop in a paper trail—they could be used to obtain a displaced person passport from the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which in turn could be used to apply for visas. In theory the ICRC would perform background checks on passport applicants, but in practice the word of a priest or particularly a bishop would be good enough. According to statements collected by Gitta Sereny from a senior official of the Rome branch of the ICRC, Hudal could also use his position as a bishop to request papers from the ICRC "made out according to his specifications". Sereny's sources also revealed an active illicit trade in stolen and forged ICRC papers in Rome at this time.
According to declassified US intelligence reports, Hudal was not the only priest helping Nazi escapees at this time. In the "La Vista report" declassified in 1984, Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC) operative Vincent La Vista told how he had easily arranged for two bogus Hungarian refugees to get false ICRC documents with the help of a letter from a Father Joseph Gallov. Gallov, who ran a Vatican-sponsored charity for Hungarian refugees, asked no questions and wrote a letter to his "personal contact in the International Red Cross, who then issued the passports".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II)#The_Roman_ratlines

[lancezer]

don't care what a person is race or sex its about personality people should be judged on if not nothing

[lukene]

Logic and reason. Because aiding Nazi war criminals is logical and reasonable.

While certain texts do say what you claim, the Catholic institution does not support or follow them.

Amen sister! (Pun intended)

[MonsterSA]

first i am bi sexual ,, aside from religion i believe that homosexuality has to do with a psychological problem ((please do not take it as an offend)) i read a lot about homosexuality and most of the psychologist believe that (i was born this way) isn't correct ,, a lot of articles mentioned that in a man the hormone testosterone is the hormone that makes the man gets attracted to the opposite sex,, however some people go through an experience while growing up that makes them feel that they are not attracted to females or that they are attracted to males only and for some reason some people accept their feelings and grow up feeling that they are gay and that they were born gay

so i do believe that homosexuality is something that can be corrected

and please please please i am not trying to offend anyone,, so please dont get mad it's a personal opinion based on some medical articles i read

and again i am bisexual

[britishboy]

being gay is 100% ok:)

[IAMWILL]

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~confido/catholic.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II)#The_Roman_ratlines

Interesting, thanks for that.

[justin 13]

I'm gay from ages. I think when I was a little kid I knew it. Did not know how to call it tho, but then when I hit 12 I had my first experience and now I'm sure.

[Lovelife090994]

No! Not this again! Threads on sexuality and religion opinion or poll cause debates unreal!

Me? I have nothing against homosexuals but that is not what you asked is it? Oh, it said homosexuality. I disagree however, I would never stop a person or condemn them publicly. If you are homosexual, be homosexual, doesn't affect me. Just know that while I'll be your friend when asked my opinion I'll say, "I don't really support homosexuality, and see it as a bit immoral being me and by my beliefs and upbringing." I just feel it is one of those things you either agree with or not, and one of those things some do and some don't. But a simple disagreement to me doesn't always mean a hate factor.

[Green Arrow]

Being gay I obviously support homosexuality. I don't care what other people think, they can have their own opinion, I'm not going to take that away from them. I just dont like it when they're just mean and nasty to people like me, it's just horrible.

[Lovelife090994]

Being gay I obviously support homosexuality. I don't care what other people think, they can have their own opinion, I'm not going to take that away from them. I just dont like it when they're just mean and nasty to people like me, it's just horrible.

I agree, my school has a zero tolerance for rude behavior just know that no one wins the argument. Like they neither condemn nor condone... Odd and my School has this everywhere "No Place for Hate" yet what happens to everyone else? Hate, no literal hate as in deep despisement.

[Hermes96]

i'm fine with it as i am my self bi/gay

[LiamC]

It might not be 'normal' but homosexuality IS natural, or how else would it have been observed in a load of species? I am gay myself ofc I am maybe 'biased' but I am comfortable with my sexuality and know my own views, it really frustrates me when people say it's a choice or not natural but it isn't. Whilst I am comfortable with myself, it would be a lot easier to be straight but I feel nothing for women, and that's biological not because I decide I want cock instead.

Some people are just gay, the same way as some people are tall, some people are ugly, some people are intelligent and some people are short. They don't get a say in that. I know that people have differing views to me, and whilst I respect people's opinions I have no patience with people who insist it's wrong or a choice, but this is a debate that will probably always go round and round and round so there's no point in arguing with them. As long as I am comfortable with who I am I don't feel I need to search for acceptance from every individual on the planet.

That was a rant paragraph (well, paragraphs!) sorry :P

[teen.jpg]

I shouldn't need to have an opinion on it because nobody's opinion matters. Gays exist, deal with it.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Being gay
Is always okay.

Never was it not
and nought will that be otherwise.

[Lovelife090994]

I shouldn't need to have an opinion on it because nobody's opinion matters. Gays exist, deal with it.

Everyone's opinion matters and yes gays exist, you said that very clearly.

[teen.jpg]

Everyone's opinion matters and yes gays exist, you said that very clearly.

There's no opinion to have. Do we go around talking about our opinions on heterosexuality? No. What is the difference?

Opinions really DON'T matter. You just have to decide what to do with your life by yourself, and not what others tell you.

[Lovelife090994]

There's no opinion to have. Do we go around talking about our opinions on heterosexuality? No. What is the difference?

Opinions really DON'T matter. You just have to decide what to do with your life by yourself, and not what others tell you.

Whoa, whoa, hey, ca suffit! Not what I meant at all.

[jacktheawesome]

I am gay and proud of it!! I love men and penises. Don't be ashamed of who you are!!

[teen.jpg]

Whoa, whoa, hey, ca suffit! Not what I meant at all.

Then what did you mean?

I am gay and proud of it!! I love men and penises. Don't be ashamed of who you are!!

That's quite the way of saying it xD

[Lovelife090994]

Then what did you mean?

Your comment on no opinion matters. True, no NEGATIVE opinion matters especially if directed at you but even still others have a right to their opinion regardless of how dumb and mean it may be, as long as they don't do you bodily harm.


That's quite the way of saying it xD

Honest

[PinkFloyd]

I have no problem with any other sexuality.

[crepesuzette]

i don't have anything against homosexuality. I mean, I don't really agree with certain behaviors that they manifest but if I ever run into a gay person, I wouldn't treat them any different.