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Jess
May 29th, 2013, 08:35 PM
Some Churches Say They'll Cut Ties to Boy Scouts Following Its Lifting Ban on Gay Scouts (http://abcnews.go.com/US/churches-sever-ties-boy-scouts-lifted-ban-gay/story?id=19270860#.Uaasydwp-So)

A number of churches that previously sponsored Boy Scout troops have said they plan to sever ties to the organization following its decision to lift a longtime national ban on admitting openly gay Scouts. Openly gay adults will still be barred from leadership roles in the organization.

"I think I can say with pretty strong accuracy that the vast majority of Southern Baptists are very disappointed in the latest change in policy ... deeply disappointed," Frank Page, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's executive committee, told ABCNews.com.

Page said that the Southern Baptist Convention -- the largest Protestant denomination in the United States -- would be holding its national meeting in two weeks, after which it would likely recommend that its 47,000 U.S. churches pull away from the Boy Scouts of America. From there, it is up to each individual church to decide what to do, said Page.

About 70 percent of all local Boy Scout troops are supported by religious groups, according to the Boy Scouts of America, and the Southern Baptist Convention currently sponsors "hundreds of troops, probably thousands," Page said.

"We don't hate people," said Page. "We don't hate anybody, but we just felt like there's got to be some objective standard, and we felt they were maintaining that until recently."

The Mormon church, which sponsors most of the troops, has endorsed allowing gay Scouts. The Roman Catholic Church, the second-largest troop sponsor, has said it was going to use the time before the new policy takes effect on Jan. 1 to think about how and if it would affect the church.

The National Jewish Committee on Scouting, the Episcopal Church, the United Church of Christ, the Unitarian Universalist Association and the Metropolitan Community Church all urged full repeal of the longtime ban.

But many other Christian groups continue to protest, citing religious freedom and the 2000 U.S. Supreme Court decision that gave the Boy Scouts the constitutional right to keep out gay members.

The Southeast Christian Church in Louisville, Ky., which has about 300 families who participate in Scouting, also announced its plan to break its Boy Scout ties.

"Truly, for us it's a logical decision," Tim Hester, the church's executive pastor, told the Courier-Journal newspaper. "We cannot be distracted from the mission God has called us to."

Last week's decision to lift the ban was a "catalyst" in breaking away from the Boy Scouts but was not the church's only reason for doing so, Hester said, citing directional differences between the organization and the church.

"We want everyone, including ourselves, to live by biblical standards," Hester told the newspaper.

Hester did not immediately respond to ABCNews.com's request for comment.

One of the first religious organizations to denounce the Boy Scout's new policy on allowing gay members was the Assemblies of God, the world's largest Pentecostal group, saying in a statement, "We believe that the BSA policy change will lead to a mass exodus from the Boy Scout program, as Assemblies of God and many other churches can no longer support groups that are part of an organization allowing members who are openly homosexual."

Page, of the Southern Baptist Convention, echoed that sentiment. "I warned Scouting executives that this would happen, and they supposedly realized it would happen, but they thought they would gain more," Page said. "I assured them that if your goal is to minister to the largest number of youth, those were their words, then changing this is going to be a detriment to your goal."

The Boy Scouts said in a statement that it respected the "deeply held" religious beliefs of its members but encouraged them to read the resolution about the new policy. "We believe this policy is reflective of the beliefs of most of Scouting's major religious chartered organizations and are unaware of any that believe a youth member simply stating he or she is attracted to the same sex, but not engaging in sexual activity, should make him or her unwelcome in their congregation. While people have different opinions about this policy, we can all agree that kids are better off when they are in Scouting."

Gay rights advocates believe the Boy Scouts' new policy may actually attract new organizations and members who may have been put off by its former practices.

Trenton_
May 29th, 2013, 09:43 PM
This is what happens when people force their ideas on others.

Twilly F. Sniper
June 1st, 2013, 09:38 PM
This is what happens when stupid religious homophobes exist. They do this over shit that makes no fucking sense to do it over.

Stronk Serb
June 2nd, 2013, 02:10 AM
One of the reasons I stopped being Christian. It stopped making sense, and I felt as if the church was fascist and enforcing their ideas on me. Yeah they should cut ties and stop spreading their bullshit through recreational organisations.

PecorellaDP
June 2nd, 2013, 10:22 AM
Now this is just typical Christian BS. They are, for the most part, ignorant and homophobes.

deadpie
June 2nd, 2013, 02:12 PM
The thing is this isn't about Christianity, this is about a political agenda that began a loooooong time ago. There's this label that many Christians around America are putting on themselves because it's popular and spoken by politicians. This is the 'right wing christian conservative hate gay hate abortion pro gun because Jesus says so' thing. To be honest, this is what is destroying the religion itself. This is why the youth of our age is becoming faithless.

What exactly does any of it have to do with religion? Because of like... two fucking passages in the old testament? The part of the Bible that Christians don't even like to read anyways now? Isn't that pretty hypocritical right there?

Maybe if you Christians spent more time studying your own religion and keeping your fucking mouth shut you'd learn more about those golden rules, loving thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have done onto yourself, et al bla bla bla

All you are is a fucking political sticker on the back of a bandwagon covered in dirt. You think you have the answers and your answer supposedly brings something new to the table that nobody has ever thought of or heard before. It doesn't. You drive around with that "Pro Marriage Man+Woman", but who actually gives a shit other than the drones that agree with you? You're not making a point at all. It's not like I can pull on the other side of the road and have a decent debate on the subject while driving. It's never going to happen.

You might not even realize it but being the christian conservative label makes your religion less powerful. It loses its meaning. More and more young people are just going to stop believing and decide on their own religious or lack there of, beliefs... because FOR SOME FUCKING REASON they can figure out and understand the bullshit drivel more than you, ADULTS, can. Isn't that FUCKING PATHETIC?

Fuck. I haven't done one of my crazy blabber rants for a while.

The rights of gays like me are something that should have been solved a long fucking time ago. Just like how women's rights and African american's rights should have been solved much earlier then they were. Equality is just common sense.

HockeyLovesMe
June 2nd, 2013, 02:37 PM
im in scouts and im mormon but like i dont get why they wldnt allow gay people not to be in scouting.. wat does having to be gay or str8 have to do with scouting we have never once talked about sex in scouts anyways!! besides im sure theres tonssssssss of gay or bi people in scouting that they dont even know about that dont announce to evrybody that they are gay or bi so its kind of sad for the ones that do say they are cant go on a hike in the mountains with their friends sheesh

torcon4421
June 2nd, 2013, 02:41 PM
Im a scout, and idgaf if your atheist or gay or wtf ever. People need to respect other people and get over it. Im fine if theres a gay kid in my troop. Idc if you dont believe in god. And if some churches cut ties with the BSA bc of it, big deal. the troop can find another troop to be chartered to. Thats the church's fault for not being diverse and accpeting other people.

Origami
June 2nd, 2013, 07:22 PM
I love it! The CHURCH disassociates itself with the BSA and people blame CHRISTIANS.

Let me break this down for some of you. The Church has not stood for true Christianity in a very, very long time. The Church is an organization, and like any organization it is corrupt. As such it gives birth to extremists. But extremists exist in any religion, belief, or ideal.

Christianity is a religion of love and understanding, despite it's bloody history as an Abrahamic religion. The fundamental teachings (not the laws, as they are outdated) are nothing like what the Church teaches. What's worse is that the religion doesn't approve of sexual relations of the same gender. What sickens me is how people want equality. Equality is believing in whatever the fuck you want. Some people forget this.