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britishboy
May 19th, 2013, 11:41 AM
I think there should be a few more mods, no harm is done by having more mods and increases the probability of one being online qnd allows issues to be sorted out faster. also maybe an official mod of the week or month competition rewarding the great mods on the site and maybe even encouraging the worss ones to do better, they could even have a star or something on there profile? for example I would vote stoppingtime because he is simply epic:D

Jess
May 19th, 2013, 12:07 PM
More mods: Not sure on this, generally admins will decide whether or not there needs to be more mods. At the moment, I think there doesn't really need to be more and I think issues are sorted out fairly quickly.

Mod of the week/month: Not really needed

(edit: just giving my opinion on this)

britishboy
May 19th, 2013, 12:11 PM
More mods: Not sure on this, generally admins will decide whether or not there needs to be more mods. At the moment, I think there doesn't really need to be more and I think issues are sorted out fairly quickly.

Mod of the week/month: Not really needed

(edit: just giving my opinion on this)

I think neither would do harm, more mods can only be good and I really do think the mods need a reward and recognition for the work they do.

DerBear
May 19th, 2013, 12:15 PM
Moderators are chosen by the SS (Senior Staff) and they'll either choose members who've been helpful and shown good knowledge and understanding of the rules and among other things and sometimes applications will be held in the VT Jobs Section.

It can be quite hard picking new moderators sometimes. Its not really up to any of us to say if we need more moderators as the current staff work very hard in order to keep the forums neat and tidy.

As for moderator of the month, that would just be pointless and create unneeded competition between staff which isn't needed at all. I understand what you're saying about challenging the mods but honestly, some mods can't be on 24/7 due to personal life and other commitments so it wouldn't really be fair. So I'd defiantly say no to this suggestion.

britishboy
May 19th, 2013, 12:17 PM
yes but they deserve recognition! I doubt most people could do the work they.do and its only a bit of fun

Emerald Dream
May 19th, 2013, 12:21 PM
I hate the idea of "Moderator of the week/month" with a passion. The staff here at VT is a team effort, so why recognize individuals that work towards a common goal? Unlike sports such as baseball and football (etc), we aren't keeping stats of who does what...and how much of whatever. Why make one of the moderators a star and tell the rest they aren't as good over and over again?

If you really want something like this, I think there is something for it in the year end voting (from what I have seen). That's a great place to voice your opinion.

StoppingTime
May 19th, 2013, 12:26 PM
Moderators are chosen by the SS (Senior Staff) and they'll either choose members who've been helpful and shown good knowledge and understanding of the rules and among other things and sometimes applications will be held in the VT Jobs Section.

It can be quite hard picking new moderators sometimes. Its not really up to any of us to say if we need more moderators as the current staff work very hard in order to keep the forums neat and tidy.

As for moderator of the month, that would just be pointless and create unneeded competition between staff which isn't needed at all. I understand what you're saying about challenging the mods but honestly, some mods can't be on 24/7 due to personal life and other commitments so it wouldn't really be fair. So I'd defiantly say no to this suggestion.

This 100% If the Staff feel we are in need of more moderators, we will either put out applications, or privately seek candidates. As there is a lot of moderation work which goes on "behind the scenes" it's not always easy for members to tell when we need to moderators. You're right though, more moderators may mean they are on more often. But do remember we can't always be here; we do have lives, too :P


yes but they deserve recognition! I doubt most people could do the work they.do and its only a bit of fun

When I say this I think I speak for the staff as a whole. We are not Staff members for recognition. If someone is on staff, it's not because they want to be popular here, or want something out of it. We do it because we want to help this community in any way we can. I don't approve of elevating any staff member over another. Sure, we do have the "VT awards" at the end of the year (one award being "best mod") but those are all in good fun, and we don't take them seriously.

Origami
May 19th, 2013, 01:06 PM
I don't think new mods is a bad thing, but I don't think it's completely necessary. Once upon a time VT had a huge staff and things worked well; however, Mike and his team prefer to do things, so it seems, in a smaller group. They get the job done still, so I don't think we have any place to say they need more staff members. If Mike thinks more are needed, I'm sure he or a member of the Senior Staff will bring it up between themselves. Regardless, they do just fine with the current staff size.

And mod of the week is just a no. It's going to be another popularity contest. We got rid of rep for the very same reason.

The LOLer
May 19th, 2013, 01:59 PM
You know I tried to pull the same thing. THAT DID NOT work. Mod of the whatever is not only going to get mods mad at eachother, but cause unneeded chaos as well as a bitch fight against everbody on vt and ruin vt to pot. Please don't.

WickedWeekend
May 19th, 2013, 03:06 PM
Didn't you already post this? But, this isn't a bad idea. I wouldn't support it, though. Problems are already sorted out fast enough. And mods are here to sort out problems. What we have is sufficient.

Rayquaza
May 19th, 2013, 03:10 PM
I mean personally, I think more mods would be better, seeing as the staff and all senior staff are US based, but it's not my decision to make, and there isn't much harm in the way things are now anyway, so it's not completely necessary.

The moderator of the month thing is something I object to, it doesn't take into account people that aren't staff that contribute a lot to the site. I can think of a few. It means that you can only credit about 3% of the active members, leaving the 97% out. I choose to see VT as a community rather than a hierarchy, and having mod of the month would enforce the latter.

Jess
May 19th, 2013, 03:23 PM
Again, the senior staff can decide whether or not they need more mods

TheMatrix
May 23rd, 2013, 02:40 AM
If you're trying to get on staff, OP, this might not be the best way of increasing your chances. Moderators are chosen by what we feel is good quality, not a lottery or "the need for more".

We pride ourselves on being a high-quality* community. And such a community requires high-quality moderation. We have that right now. If we add every person regardless of skill and fitness, then that quality drops, since these people either a) do nothing and just strut around with a title and/or b) screw things up, creating more work for the serious mods. For those that remember, that was the case not too long before I was promoted to moderator, in 2011.
And these serious mods are what we have now.

And contrary to what you've all been saying, there are actually featured moderators, and they're listed here (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showgroups.php). You learn something new every day, no?


* Your opinions may vary.

IAMWILL
May 24th, 2013, 12:46 AM
Just my 2 cents:

I've thought for the last 6 months/year or so that VT was understaffed. That belief comes from the fact that a few years ago when I modded we had 1/2 the activity but more mods with more power (normal mods were able to moderate almost the entire forum, and were assigned to priority groups instead of sections), and we still were crazy busy. The current staff has been doing a good job so far though from what I can tell, so I assume they're working very hard (that or for some reason less people are breaking the rules, but ill stick with the former).

And the Mod of the Month thing only breeds jealousy and contempt, which unfortunately usually dejects us teenagers instead of inspiring them and isn't good for the teamwork which is required within the staff.

Donkey
May 24th, 2013, 01:35 PM
Just my 2 cents:

I've thought for the last 6 months/year or so that VT was understaffed. That belief comes from the fact that a few years ago when I modded we had 1/2 the activity but more mods with more power (normal mods were able to moderate almost the entire forum, and were assigned to priority groups instead of sections), and we still were crazy busy. The current staff has been doing a good job so far though from what I can tell, so I assume they're working very hard (that or for some reason less people are breaking the rules, but ill stick with the former).

And the Mod of the Month thing only breeds jealousy and contempt, which unfortunately usually dejects us teenagers instead of inspiring them and isn't good for the teamwork which is required within the staff.
I would agree with this. While the OP is speaking completely out of his arse, just coincidentally his first suggestion is quite good. Based on my experience, the ratio of senior to non-senior staff here only leads to conflict rather than a streamlined and efficient system; more well-trained 'green' moderators to respond to issues faster would not be a problem, especially since there are too few at present.

xXl0sth0peXx
May 24th, 2013, 01:52 PM
Whether we need more mods or not is irrelevant to what I'm going to say.

But as most people here could probably guess, we can't just go walking down the street singing "do wah diddy diddy dum diddy do i want you, you, not you, you, not you and not you as mods" if you know what I mean. It's a somewhat long process if you know what I mean. That being said, when we're ready to add more mods or when we feel a need, rest assured we will. We don't wanna just mod the wrong people and have them gone after a day ya know.

And yeah as for the second suggestion, we'd have either the same person as mod of the week every week or everyone would get it like once every other month, so it wouldn't be special. But yeah as everyone else said it's just not a good idea and I don't really want an award for my work here.

Donkey
May 24th, 2013, 01:54 PM
Whether we need more mods or not is irrelevant to what I'm going to say.

Then why post your rambling reply, as the issue stated is very much the bone of contention!