gays

[britishboy]

should gay people have the same rights as straight people? personally I think they should, it's just a sexual preference

[Jess]

Of course they should. Why shouldn't they not have the same rights? (that's a rhetorical question, by the way)

[britishboy]

Of course they should. Why shouldn't they not have the same rights? (that's a rhetorical question, by the way)

religion mostly and are you pro abortion?

[Stronger]

Yes they should, enough said.

[Cicero]

religion mostly and are you pro abortion?

Even in her sig it says she isn't pro abortion. She's pro choice. Just because you're pro choice doesn't mean you're pro abortion.


I think everyone deserves equal rights.

[Atonement]

Why should straights have the right to marry? It's just a sexual orientation.

Also, I'd like to point out: Sexuality really isn't a preference. It's just how someone is. I prefer apple juice over orange juice. I will fall in love with a man because that's how I am. Not a preference. An orientation.

[britishboy]

Even in her sig it says she isn't pro abortion. She's pro choice. Just because you're pro choice doesn't mean you're pro abortion.


I think everyone deserves equal rights.

pro choice means you have the right to decide and your happy with abortion it doesn't make sence

[BebeFleur.]

Of course they should have equal rights!

And regarding abortion: I believe what Jess means is that she is pro-choice, meaning she wants people to be able to choose, but she personally doesn't support abortion. She respects people that choose abortion, but she doesn't like it. Please correct me if I am wrong. :)

[britishboy]

Of course they should have equal rights!

And regarding abortion: I believe what Jess means is that she is pro-choice, meaning she wants people to be able to choose, but she personally doesn't support abortion. She respects people that choose abortion, but she doesn't like it. Please correct me if I am wrong. :)

that's what I believe:) and I was just confused lol

[Jess]

religion mostly and are you pro abortion?

Pfft, religion. The thing is, not everyone is religious or believe in the same religion. Religion shouldn't get in the way of whether or not people should have rights.

And no, I'm pro-choice.


pro choice means you have the right to decide and your happy with abortion it doesn't make sence

No, that's not necessarily what it means. Pro-choice means you believe a woman should be able to have and make a choice about an abortion without others interfering.

Of course they should have equal rights!

And regarding abortion: I believe what Jess means is that she is pro-choice, meaning she wants people to be able to choose, but she personally doesn't support abortion. She respects people that choose abortion, but she doesn't like it. Please correct me if I am wrong. :)

I wouldn't say I don't "like" it (though I'm not sure how one would "like" abortion). I still support abortion though (but perhaps I dislike the idea of getting one late in a pregnancy)

[Stronk Serb]

Legally, yes. Religiously, it is up to a religion to decide.

[Southside]

Gay or not, they are Human, so yes they should have rights

[Cicero]

Ill add this, they don't deserve special rights of more rights. But the same. Nothing less or more

[Aajj333]

Yes, I see no problem with that, just as i would hope that I have rights and my family has rights, and my friends have rights, and strangers have rights

[britishboy]

Pfft, religion. The thing is, not everyone is religious or believe in the same religion. Religion shouldn't get in the way of whether or not people should have rights.

And no, I'm pro-choice.




No, that's not necessarily what it means. Pro-choice means you believe a woman should be able to have and make a choice about an abortion without others interfering.



I wouldn't say I don't "like" it (though I'm not sure how one would "like" abortion). I still support abortion though (but perhaps I dislike the idea of getting one late in a pregnancy)

I personally think the father should have rights as well, it is there kid

[tovaris]

I dont see why not, and in a cummunist society they will have all the same rights and duties.

[Bethany]

Ill add this, they don't deserve special rights of more rights. But the same. Nothing less or more

Are there any special rights that you believe gay people are getting?

[Elysium]

Yes, I believe they should.

[teen.jpg]

The fact that this is a question proves how behind our generations have been.

[Camazotz]

The fact that this is a question proves how behind our generations have been.

Compared to what it could be (looking at more impoverished, less cultured societies), I'd say we have it made.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

To keep it plain and simple, yes they should. The only thing that makes them different from straight people is their sexual orientation. If they're not given the same rights, that's discrimination, something which shouldn't be present in any modern society.

I'm religious, but I think we shouldn't let religion get in the way of social issues such as this one.

[iwannago]

ofcoarse they should have the same rights as people, people who think any different are disgusting.

[Sir Suomi]

I dont see why not, and in a cummunist society they will have all the same rights and duties.

Sure, that's why Stalin passed Article 121, which punished any man thought to be homosexual with 5 years of hard physical labor and locked up into a prison. Why would they have done this? For "The Motherland's Security", right?

[randomnessqueen]

yes they should, there is no differents between straights and gays.

[chrisawesome]

To keep it plain and simple, yes they should. The only thing that makes them different from straight people is their sexual orientation. If they're not given the same rights, that's discrimination, something which shouldn't be present in any modern society.

I'm religious, but I think we shouldn't let religion get in the way of social issues such as this one.

Exactly thats how I think, the beliefs of one set religion isnt a way to run a government. We have to realize that not all Americans are Christian and believe homosexual marrage is a sin. So why deny the right of legal marrage to the Athiest or Satanic, even though I REALLY DON'T understand their religion or understand their state of mind.... But you get my point!!

[PinkFloyd]

they should for sure. Being homophobic is no more okay than being racist or sexist.

[chrisawesome]

You know what I just though of... Christians can be so hipocritical... Some of us God fearin creations say that gay marrage is a sin. Well, you know what, so is having sex. And I dont think people have sex 2 or 3 times in their lifetime just to make 2 or 3 kids. So ha

[Origami]

You know what I just though of... Christians can be so hipocritical... Some of us God fearin creations say that gay marrage is a sin. Well, you know what, so is having sex. And I dont think people have sex 2 or 3 times in their lifetime just to make 2 or 3 kids. So ha

Correction, premarital sex is a sin. Reread the Bible.

As far as the LGBT community having equal rights, they're entitled to all basic human rights, yes. But seriously, do you really think anyone on these forums is going to outwardly say they believe they don't?

[survivorguilt]

Correction, premarital sex is a sin. Reread the Bible.

As far as the LGBT community having equal rights, they're entitled to all basic human rights, yes. But seriously, do you really think anyone on these forums is going to outwardly say they believe they don't?

Point still stands. The vast majority of people engage in that "sin".

[Origami]

Point still stands. The vast majority of people engage in that "sin".

Then I'll kill your point by saying humans in general are hypocritical. Simple as that.

[survivorguilt]

Then I'll kill your point by saying humans in general are hypocritical. Simple as that.

True, but when those people engage in sinful behaviours by their own religion's standards then go putting their beliefs on nonbelievers and try to legislate in the favor of their religion, that goes beyond hypocritical.

[tovaris]

Sure, that's why Stalin passed Article 121, which punished any man thought to be homosexual with 5 years of hard physical labor and locked up into a prison. Why would they have done this? For "The Motherland's Security", right?

Stalin was not communist he wasent even a marxist.

[Origami]

True, but when those people engage in sinful behaviours by their own religion's standards then go putting their beliefs on nonbelievers and try to legislate in the favor of their religion, that goes beyond hypocritical.

And how is it that every human being isn't responsible of this? Let's reword your post to this....


True, but when those people engage in disdainful behaviours by their own moral belief's standards then go putting their beliefs on people with different views and try to legislate in the favor of their beliefs, that goes beyond hypocritical.

It's not religious people who are bad. Most religious people are great people. It's humans as a whole that are wicked and cruel. Don't let your generalization and disfavor of religious people blind you to what humanity, not religion, is responsible for.

[survivorguilt]

And how is it that every human being isn't responsible of this? Let's reword your post to this....


True, but when those people engage in disdainful behaviours by their own moral belief's standards then go putting their beliefs on people with different views and try to legislate in the favor of their beliefs, that goes beyond hypocritical.

It's not religious people who are bad. Most religious people are great people. It's humans as a whole that are wicked and cruel. Don't let your generalization and disfavor of religious people blind you to what humanity, not religion, is responsible for.

Wow. Nowhere in my statement did I say "all religious people" or anything of that nature. You put words in my mouth. I did say that most religious people break their own moral codes, but then I specified the subset of those people who then try to make their moral codes law. This doesn't even have to refer to just religious people, it can refer to anyone who's hypocritical and moralizing simultaneously. I am very aware that the majority of religious people are not moralizing, and that the majority that are moralizing mean well.

[Origami]

Wow. Nowhere in my statement did I say "all religious people" or anything of that nature. You put words in my mouth. I did say that most religious people break their own moral codes, but then I specified the subset of those people who then try to make their moral codes law. This doesn't even have to refer to just religious people, it can refer to anyone who's hypocritical and moralizing simultaneously. I am very aware that the majority of religious people are not moralizing, and that the majority that are moralizing mean well.

Refer to OP for my point.

[The LOLer]

Well, The bible isn't exactly pro gay. But I think that we shouldn't be concerned what people do if they're not killing people.

[Sir Suomi]

Stalin was not communist he wasent even a marxist.

Are you fucking joking? He led the biggest Communist country to ever exist. He fought in the Civil war with the Communists! All of his policies, were 100% Communist! How in the name of hell is he not a communist?

[tovaris]

Are you fucking joking? He led the biggest Communist country to ever exist. He fought in the Civil war with the Communists! All of his policies, were 100% Communist! How in the name of hell is he not a communist?

he never truly foleved any communist ideas

[Sir Suomi]

he never truly foleved any communist ideas

Yet he led the Communist nation that was the USSR, which's main goal was to spread Communism into the rest of the world, which ended up hurting more people than should have been allowed.

[Origami]

he never truly foleved any communist ideas

Yet he led the Communist nation that was the USSR, which's main goal was to spread Communism into the rest of the world, which ended up hurting more people than should have been allowed.

Just a heads up, but you guys are way off topic by this point.

[Sir Suomi]

Just a heads up, but you guys are way off topic by this point.

Sorry, just getting a little tired of all the Commies, that's it! :D

[tovaris]

Just a heads up, but you guys are way off topic by this point.

thanx if mr austin vants to continue the debate he will pm me or start a new topic

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Why in anyone's sane mind should we not? Are we sons of satin, super-religious? Because we aren't normal?

[survivorguilt]

“In proportion as anarchy in social production vanishes, the political authority of the State dies out.”~ Friedrich Engels

“this implies that in communist society there will likewise be no State.”~ ABC of Communism

"Communism is the one which guarantees the greatest amount of individual liberty—provided that the idea that begets the community be Liberty, Anarchy”~ Peter Kropotkin

[Synyster Shadows]

the law shouldn't dictate who has what rights because we're all supposed to be equals. Religion's entrance, however changes the situation slightly. But yes, i believe that LGBTQ people should have all the same rights as heterosexuals.