Question on Religion

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Ok, so I'm an atheist. I don't hate religion, per se, but I hate what it can do to people. Sometimes it corrupts a person's way of thinking and makes them very opinionated and bigoted. But of course they're the people who genuinely believe in peace, and for that I commend you.

Anyway, that's beside the point. My real question is what makes you believe in whatever religion you confide in. What about it makes you want to listen to it, and believe in it's teachings.

Being atheist, I don't really understand. I don't really have any belief, so I just live as I believe I should.

Is it that much different for you religious people out there?

[AlexBarrett]

For me, it's true. I mean, when you get down to the science to it, you can't make me believe that this all happened by accident. However, I do understand what you're talking about when you say it corrupts people. Most Christians are cool, it's the radicals that give us a bad name. Like that darned old Westboro Baptist. But alas.

[Horatio Nelson]

I believe because I know in my heart that there is a God and nothing could ever sway that belief. I would die for my faith, If that's what it takes to prove it. There really isn't much more to say other than the fact that I feel it to be true.

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I believe because I know in my heart that there is a God and nothing could ever sway that belief. I would die for my faith, If that's what it takes to prove it. There really isn't much more to say other than the fact that I feel it to be true.

Is there a reason that makes it 100% in your mind. I'm just curious.

[Horatio Nelson]

It's really hard to explain.....it's a feeling you can't share, only experience yourself.

[LouBerry]

Well, I don't refer to it in as a religion. I have a relationship. It's real and it's strong. Sure, God doesn't literally come down from the clouds and have tea with me, but I feel Him. He loves me, and that love isn't something I could make believe. So, why do I believe? I believe in my Father for the same reason you believe in a chair you are about to sit on. You don't think twice before plopping down in a chair, because you know that it's going to be there to hold you up.

[Stronk Serb]

It's really hard to explain.....it's a feeling you can't share, only experience yourself.

Is it a feeling of zeal?
I stopped believing. I realized it is all for naught since while I was pretty faithful and zealous, yet the same shit happened as if I was atheist. If God was real, why doesn't he help his faithful? Why does he let stuff happen which is against his teachings? He is either a piece of shit, or does not exist. I joked with my atheist friend who is a communist also, I said: If God was real, Yuri Gagarin and Soviet pilots and astronauts would've seen him.

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

It's really hard to explain to someone who's never experienced anything similar. I agree with everything LouBerry said in her post. It all comes down to faith. I believe in God. If you don't, it's almost impossible to tell you what it feels like and what drives me.

[randomnessqueen]

its not religion that corrupts people. its people turning away from their religion and letting their own desires corrupt them.
i am very devout, because i dont see a reason not to be. i see religion as just naturally, its something i experience everyday.
those who believe things blindly, that isnt religion, religion is something you experience.

[Sir Suomi]

It's the sense that I really don't think that all we are meant for is, to an extent, being born, breeding, and the dying. I mean, what's the point, if we're not meant to do anything else. To be quite honest, it's been what's encouraged me to never pull the trigger on myself sometimes. I feel as if that everyone here's sent for a purpose we're all meant to fulfill. Now, don't get me wrong. There's a lot about my own religion that I disagree with. But in the end, I'm still a firm believer that there is indeed, a God, and there is indeed, an afterlife.

[Ace of Spades]

its not religion that corrupts people. its people turning away from their religion and letting their own desires corrupt them.
i am very devout, because i dont see a reason not to be. i see religion as just naturally, its something i experience everyday.
those who believe things blindly, that isnt religion, religion is something you experience.

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[AMGForever]

you must have a lot of faith to not believe in god

not hating just saying

[drew6]

For Christians, it's about having a growing relationship with Jesus Christ. Once you choose Christ, your heart/desires change. Then the bible can be used to understand Christ and his teachings. The bible wasn't given to us so we could point out non-believers and believers failings, yet many people use it for that. How unfair is that to non-believers? They didn't sign up for that.

The biggest reason for Atheists today is Christians,
because they go out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle.

In other words, it's the hypocritical Christians who drive people away from Christ.
Imagine what Christ thinks about people using HIS name to push people away from Him? Yet it happens way too often.

At a minimum, religious teachings can inform you of how to live your life as you live it rather than just do the best you can and figure it out along the way. The book of proverbs would be a good example of some wisdom that's way beyond our years, so we could read it and avoid some pitfalls or just wing it. I'd rather read a little.

[Ace of Spades]

you must have a lot of faith to not believe in god

not hating just saying

It's not called faith, it's called critical thinking skills and skepticism.

[AMGForever]

It's not called faith, it's called critical thinking skills and skepticism.

faith:
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

"nothing is something"

[Ace of Spades]

faith:
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

"nothing is something"

What is your point?

[naglfari]

faith:
Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

"nothing is something"

that's like saying you have 'faith' that santa isn't real after finding a price tag on your gift that supposedly came from him.

[Sugaree]

As a Buddhist, I don't particularly believe in a higher power. I only follow the teachings of the dharma and my particular school of meditation. Being a former Christian, I can see how faith plays a key role in that religion, because it does take a lot of faith to believe in something you can't blatantly see. However, on a deeper note, Christianity, oddly enough like Buddhism, is about strengthening your inner spiritual self by instilling select teachings and scripture.

See, at its core, religion is not a complete and utter denial of reason or common sense (though, for many, it is used as an excuse to evade both). Religion is about finding an inner peace and comfort within yourself that can help you throughout the many paths life may take you. That's why most of these threads on religion are silly because no one is looking deep enough to what religion is on a personal level. And that's where you can find your true self. It's understandable not to believe in a higher power, but that doesn't automatically discredit a religion for teaching that a higher power exists.

[AMGForever]

What is your point?

my point is that it is faith, an atheist has complete trust that there is no God.

lets not argue about this is question for I had no intention to do so but only express my opinion of it.

[Ace of Spades]

my point is that it is faith, an atheist has complete trust that there is no God.

lets not argue about this is question for I had no intention to do so but only express my opinion of it.

Atheists go for science.

[Joshua2000]

I believe in a god but dont believe that he (or she..dont really think god has a sex) wants us to bow down to him and i dont believe he micromanages every part of being human. I think he just made the universe and the laws of science and let it go and let it evolve and grow how it happens. I think god just wants us to be happy and love each other but its not like he will force us or punish us for following a certain religion over another as long as its about loving people. That seems so human to me to have only one "real" religion as the right one. They are almost all the same anyway.

But I dont believe in hell and all that, I think the only hell is when we die we see what we could have done to be happier or to love another but didnt do. Maybe everyones souls as one soul is what "god" is...i don't know. Just babbling.

[AMGForever]

Atheists go for science.

i know that but science can't explain everything example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCpzH9AYPNQ

[Ace of Spades]

i know that but science can't explain everything example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCpzH9AYPNQ

Religion can't explain anything.

Science is like a cleaning towel wiping away the grime on a window to reveal what lies beyond. As more grime is wiped away, the more of the window you can clearly see. Eventually, all the grime will be removed and the window will be clear.
In this case, science is the towel, the grime represents the unknown, and the window represents reality/knowledge.

[AMGForever]

Religion can't explain anything.

Science is like a cleaning towel wiping away the grime on a window to reveal what lies beyond. As more grime is wiped away, the more of the window you can clearly see. Eventually, all the grime will be removed and the window will be clear.
In this case, science is the towel, the grime represents the unknown, and the window represents reality/knowledge.

why are you so intrigued with this argument anyway science is man-made man is not perfect therefore science cannot explain everything

in other words that window won't be cleaned

if you want i'll be gladly to stop the argument now

[Ace of Spades]

why are you so intrigued with this argument anyway science is man-made man is not perfect therefore science cannot explain everything

in other words that window won't be cleaned

if you want i'll be gladly to stop the argument now

Religion is man-made and can explain much less than science.
There will always be more questions to answer. Science will always be answering those questions with factual data.

[AMGForever]

Religion is man-made and can explain much less than science.
There will always be more questions to answer. Science will always be answering those questions with factual data.

first before i go on typing way why do you want to argue with me

[Origami]

first before i go on typing way why do you want to argue with me

Don't feed the fire, AMG.

[AMGForever]

Don't feed the fire, AMG.

i know i just want to

[Ace of Spades]

first before i go on typing way why do you want to argue with me

This is a debate thread, is it not?

[AMGForever]

This is a debate thread, is it not?

I don't see the word debate anywhere on the page except yours so no

[Origami]

This is a debate thread, is it not?

No, it's not. It's a question thread asking religious persons why they believe what they do.

It's not a thread saying "debate if Atheism or religion is better," which you have so desperately perverted it into.

Refer to OP:
My real question is what makes you believe in whatever religion you confide in. What about it makes you want to listen to it, and believe in it's teachings.

[Ace of Spades]

I don't see the word debate anywhere on the page except yours so no

No, it's not. It's a question thread asking religious persons why they believe what they do.

It's not a thread saying "debate if Atheism or religion is better," which you have so desperately perverted it into.

Refer to OP:

My question is: Why do you care so much?

[Origami]

My question is: Why do you care so much?

Because you're so dug into your beliefs that you can't accept that others have different views than yours. In fact, you're so butt hurt you even leave ROTW which is known to be a heated section and attack users in other parts of the forum. When you're trying to attack and discredit our beliefs just to toot your own horn, we have the right to be offended and tell you to fuck off. This thread wasn't a debate, you turned it into one and instead of admitting that you actually did fuck up and come off as an arrogant bitch for doing so, you simply try to avert the whole point with an unnecessary question.

[AMGForever]

My question is: Why do you care so much?



care because it's intriguing to me to see other people's faith in other things than God

No, it's not. It's a question thread asking religious persons why they believe what they do.

It's not a thread saying "debate if Atheism or religion is better," which you have so desperately perverted it into.

Refer to OP:

and i'm sorry that i have done this and changed the question into a debate like this I will stop