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crepesuzette
May 11th, 2013, 12:49 AM
Is it ever possible to attain world peace? In the minds of the 21st century thinkers, or that's what I think, is possible. If we learn to accept the past as it is and start improving upon it, this might be a possibility. I do hope that someday we can all live in unity and peace. I want an end to world suffering, because I just don't see the point in this.

Bath
May 11th, 2013, 03:01 AM
No. Every yin has its yang, and you can't have peace without hate.

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 03:56 AM
I think we are in peace I mean the us and uk are even allies with Germany! so we have moved on and forgiven

Twilly F. Sniper
May 11th, 2013, 08:38 AM
Nope. People will always find stupid reasons to fight.
TUAM apparently doesn't have any clue about current events. just because WW2 is over, doesn't mean our world is at peace LOL

PandaBear
May 11th, 2013, 08:53 AM
World peace, as nice as it sounds, just is never going to happen. Too much hatred, too many differences for it to be possible.

BebeFleur.
May 11th, 2013, 12:10 PM
World peace will never happen. There will always be someone who wants to take control of the world, or kill people because of their beliefs. Unfortunately, our current situation will probably be as peaceful as it gets.

crepesuzette
May 11th, 2013, 12:15 PM
well I don't know. I mean, considering we're all learning our history and knowing that we have made so many mistakes, wouldn't we want to like end all this hate?

BebeFleur.
May 11th, 2013, 12:21 PM
Yes, in theory it is a wonderful idea, but think about it. There will always be someone or a group of people that want control. They think it is best, and most often will do it by force. And not everyone learns from mistakes. People have different opinions. The terrorists, Hitler, Etc. Believe life should be a certain way, they WE are the problem. That we need to change. It's almost always religion. For example, some believe in a god, some don't. On both sides, They want the other side to change, They think they are right and the other is wrong. Not everyone will think the same way, unfortunately.

randomme
May 11th, 2013, 12:25 PM
I think very few people are against world peace, if any, but everyone has and always will want to put their interests first. That's why world peace will not work we all want different things. But maybe if instead of viewing ourselves as separate races or separate countries we instead viewed ourselves as one planet and as one people.

Emerald Dream
May 11th, 2013, 12:25 PM
This is probably better off here.

TWPR :arrow: ROTW

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 11th, 2013, 12:27 PM
It's a great idea in theory, but it can never work in practice. It's in our nature to be violent.

I think we are in peace I mean the us and uk are even allies with Germany! so we have moved on and forgiven

Both the US and the UK have been fighting a war for the last 11 years. World War II ended a long time ago, but that hardly meant world peace.

Hyper
May 11th, 2013, 12:30 PM
I think we are in peace I mean the us and uk are even allies with Germany! so we have moved on and forgiven

There aren't enough face palms for this...

The answer is no. We wont have world peace. If for some reason humanity every stopped fighting each other for resources & power... It would only be if an alien race showed up and started killing us all. So it would be like a temporary cooperation thing assuming humanity would survive after that it would be a FFA all over.

Yipus
May 11th, 2013, 12:32 PM
well using the idea of ying and yang (in black there is white, in white there is black), in peace there must be violence, in violence there must be peace. So, yes, it is possible, but for a short period of time

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 01:03 PM
There aren't enough face palms for this...

The answer is no. We wont have world peace. If for some reason humanity every stopped fighting each other for resources & power... It would only be if an alien race showed up and started killing us all. So it would be like a temporary cooperation thing assuming humanity would survive after that it would be a FFA all over.

what are you emo haha cheer up when have you ever been in danger

It's a great idea in theory, but it can never work in practice. It's in our nature to be violent.



Both the US and the UK have been fighting a war for the last 11 years. World War II ended a long time ago, but that hardly meant world peace.

were at peace, were in no danger, it's a peace mission miles away

-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

survivorguilt
May 11th, 2013, 01:08 PM
Not without a strong centralized worldwide government that severely limited human rights. Nobody would want that, because the minute control of everybody that would have to take place would be completely immoral. Even then, the system would have to be insanely bureaucratic to protect itself.

Plane And Simple
May 11th, 2013, 01:11 PM
I don't think it's possible, but I still think we should keep trying. Even if we don't archieve that peace we want, we will get to a point which is fewer war than it previously was. if we increase slowly until almost world peace, I'm sure we will break in war again, then recover, then fall...

offtopic:

were at peace, were in no danger, it's a peace mission miles away

Your sig made me laugh so damn much :lol3:

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 01:13 PM
I don't think it's possible, but I still think we should keep trying. Even if we don't archieve that peace we want, we will get to a point which is fewer war than it previously was. if we increase slowly until almost world peace, I'm sure we will break in war again, then recover, then fall...

offtopic:



Your sig made me laugh so damn much :lol3:

I 100% agree:) and thanks haha:')

Hyper
May 11th, 2013, 02:24 PM
what are you emo haha cheer up when have you ever been in danger

First off... What the f do you mean have I ever been in danger?

Danger of what?

2nd off the world is bigger than your own country. Or the 1st world or the 2nd world.

In case you haven't heard over half of the fucking world is a 3rd/2nd world country.

Even if you live in a 1st world country you can always face violence.

Now regardless of that ''World Peace'' would imply to peace between all nations and generally nationalities meaning no genocides & military conflicts in general.

So just because an armed forced isn't doing battle in your town doesn't mean there aren't plenty of people for who that is a present reality.

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 02:29 PM
First off... What the f do you mean have I ever been in danger?

Danger of what?

2nd off the world is bigger than your own country. Or the 1st world or the 2nd world.

In case you haven't heard over half of the fucking world is a 3rd/2nd world country.

Even if you live in a 1st world country you can always face violence.

Now regardless of that ''World Peace'' would imply to peace between all nations and generally nationalities meaning no genocides & military conflicts in general.

So just because an armed forced isn't doing battle in your town doesn't mean there aren't plenty of people for who that is a present reality.

guess so I don't really care I'm safe and got more important things to wurry about such as exams, getting my teeth whitened and I need to get a new laptop cos mines broken, anyway aren't you from a first world country? why do you care?

Southside
May 11th, 2013, 02:31 PM
I think we are in peace I mean the us and uk are even allies with Germany! so we have moved on and forgiven
As long as NATO, Israel,are around, no we can not attain world peace. WW2 is over, that means we have world peace. Just because we are sitting home in our nice big houses and everyone in the Western world has this buddy-buddy friendship thing going on doesnt mean world peace. It's hundreds of conflicts going on, from Africa, to the Middle East, to South America, and even on our own city streets.

Hyper
May 11th, 2013, 02:33 PM
guess so I don't really care I'm safe and got more important things to wurry about such as exams, getting my teeth whitened and I need to get a new laptop cos mines broken, anyway aren't you from a first world country? why do you care?

I'm not from a first world country.

I care because I am human. Bad things happen when people care about nothing else than their own trivial shit.

Left Now
May 11th, 2013, 02:34 PM
When people stop just thinking about themselves,it can be possible why not?

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 02:35 PM
I'm not from a first world country.

I care because I am human. Bad things happen when people care about nothing else than their own trivial shit.

no you only care because it affects you and any way I'm getting my teeth whitened in the morning I'm scared!:o

Hyper
May 11th, 2013, 02:41 PM
no you only care because it affects you and any way I'm getting my teeth whitened in the morning I'm scared!:o

Way to project!

Just because I don't live in a 1st world country doesn't mean militias are fighting in my country... All it means is I get a shittier education and I get paid less for doing the same work someone does in a 1st world country.

AKA I live in a 2nd world country

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 02:44 PM
Way to project!

Just because I don't live in a 1st world country doesn't mean militias are fighting in my country... All it means is I get a shittier education and I get paid less for doing the same work someone does in a 1st world country.

AKA I live in a 2nd world country

quit moaning you got a computer so you cant be dying and what country are you from?

Hyper
May 11th, 2013, 02:46 PM
Moaning? Whaaat... I started by pointing out how ignorant the things you said were.

Considering you can get a working computer for like 10$ almost anyone living above the 1$ a day rate could get one :P

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 02:53 PM
Moaning? Whaaat... I started by pointing out how ignorant the things you said were.

Considering you can get a working computer for like 10$ almost anyone living above the 1$ a day rate could get one :P

you also have to pay for internet and anyway anyone who is starving should not waste money on a computer

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 11th, 2013, 02:56 PM
were at peace, were in no danger, it's a peace mission miles away

Seriously, how could you say that? That's so ignorant.

Did you forget 9/11? How about the Boston bombing? That was more recent. Maybe you don't care about either of those, because they didn't happen in your country.

What about the July 7th Bombing in London? I bet all those people that died there also thought they were safe.

We're not safe.

We're at war. Our men and women are fighting and dying overseas to prevent anything like this from happening again.

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 03:21 PM
Seriously, how could you say that? That's so ignorant.

Did you forget 9/11? How about the Boston bombing? That was more recent. Maybe you don't care about either of those, because they didn't happen in your country.

What about the July 7th Bombing in London? I bet all those people that died there also thought they were safe.

We're not safe.

We're at war. Our men and women are fighting and dying overseas to prevent anything like this from happening again.

the Boston bombings was so sad:'( and of course I care about it we had a 30 second silence on the London Marathon, but were not at war, those are extremists and they were actually American

and I agree our soilders are very brave and are protecting us from the evil of terrorism

When people stop just thinking about themselves,it can be possible why not?

our soilders are dying in Afghanistan just the other day 3 BRITISH SOILDERS DIED!:'( I think it was a roadside bomb and were also spending millions if not billions on that peace mission so we do care

Human
May 11th, 2013, 03:24 PM
I don't think it will ever happen. Maybe inter-country peace could be made possible, but there will always be conflicts. Inter-country peace could be possible if the UK and USA were to stay out of Syria etc.

BebeFleur.
May 11th, 2013, 03:27 PM
the Boston bombings was so sad:'( and of course I care about it we had a 30 second silence on the London Marathon, but were not at war, those are extremists and they were actually American

and I agree our soilders are very brave and are protecting us from the evil of terrorism

There is war. It may not be IN your country, but it does involve your country. And regarding the Boston bombings: The older brother was not an American citizen and the younger had just become a citizen. And if they are extremists they can't be terrorists?

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 03:58 PM
There is war. It may not be IN your country, but it does involve your country. And regarding the Boston bombings: The older brother was not an American citizen and the younger had just become a citizen. And if they are extremists they can't be terrorists?

extremists are terrorists but it is not a war it's a little conflict mainly a peace mission

tovaris
May 11th, 2013, 04:24 PM
Yes, we can. If we destroy all arms and instal a new social sistem(COMMUNISEM).

Yes, we can. If we destroy all arms and instal a new social sistem(COMMUNISEM), and the world becomes one republic.

britishboy
May 11th, 2013, 04:41 PM
Yes, we can. If we destroy all arms and instal a new social sistem(COMMUNISEM).

no people like there freedom of speech and human rights, that would only cause conflict

tovaris
May 11th, 2013, 04:43 PM
no people like there freedom of speech and human rights, that would only cause conflict

Why would complet fredom of speech and thaught, and their rights cause conflict?

Hunter_Steel
May 11th, 2013, 05:30 PM
Communist leaders have a history of restricting freedom of speech, human rights and whatnot. I don't support and never will support a communist regime or a leader. I would sooner kick his ass out of presidency before he becomes a new dictator or leave the country to where Communism is looked down on and never welcomed. Why? Because its a screwed up political party.

Now, on to world peace. Yes, it can be achieved, not in the way people will think by inner conflicts within countries are disbanded and all that, but in essence where all the world's countries are joined as one, under one leader and one political party.

I'd like to think of this as The Federation, The World Nation, The Earth Sphere Unified Nation, The Earth Sphere Federation and one I like to call The United Federation of Sol.

Essentially, all countries disband their militaries and form them into one world wide military dedicated to protecting humanity and keeping the Sol System (Our Solar System) safe and peaceful. While hateful disputes about religion, ethnic origin or sexuality will appear, essentially, no large scale wars will be fought ever again. And the world would be free of WAR as we see it today. The only reason a large military like that would exist is to protect the solar system from any hostile species and welcome any and all friendlies. That is what world peace is, TOTAL peace where everyone no longer commits crimes, murders, hates for being different and all that will not happen at all until we "Mature" as a species. Humanity is still in its infancy, after nearly a million years or more on this planet, our species is only just starting to learn to walk. It will be a long time before we can run or swim.

Even now, we are only ankle deep in the ocean of space, our move to Mars will bring us knee deep, but we are still not yet ready to swim in the ocean of space or even to sail on it to other solar systems or galaxies in total. It will still be a very long time before that.

Here's a quote I like to use alot to still conflicts between me and my friends:

"Peace cannot be kept by force, but through understanding." - Elbert Einstein

Anyways, this is my thoughts on how world peace will be.

~Hunter

crepesuzette
May 11th, 2013, 06:02 PM
Seriously, how could you say that? That's so ignorant.

Did you forget 9/11? How about the Boston bombing? That was more recent. Maybe you don't care about either of those, because they didn't happen in your country.

What about the July 7th Bombing in London? I bet all those people that died there also thought they were safe.

We're not safe.

We're at war. Our men and women are fighting and dying overseas to prevent anything like this from happening again.

some people blame it on history. they say if we had not fought in those wars, this never would have happened. Plus, I have to admit, that we get ourselves involved in too many foreign affairs. Those people hate us because they think we're too pushy. Plus we have troops in their countries, so the best thing to do is to withdraw from them. Why stay when they can run their own country? Look at canada. Canada only cares for its population and country and that's about it.

Communist leaders have a history of restricting freedom of speech, human rights and whatnot. I don't support and never will support a communist regime or a leader. I would sooner kick his ass out of presidency before he becomes a new dictator or leave the country to where Communism is looked down on and never welcomed. Why? Because its a screwed up political party.

Now, on to world peace. Yes, it can be achieved, not in the way people will think by inner conflicts within countries are disbanded and all that, but in essence where all the world's countries are joined as one, under one leader and one political party.

I'd like to think of this as The Federation, The World Nation, The Earth Sphere Unified Nation, The Earth Sphere Federation and one I like to call The United Federation of Sol.

Essentially, all countries disband their militaries and form them into one world wide military dedicated to protecting humanity and keeping the Sol System (Our Solar System) safe and peaceful. While hateful disputes about religion, ethnic origin or sexuality will appear, essentially, no large scale wars will be fought ever again. And the world would be free of WAR as we see it today. The only reason a large military like that would exist is to protect the solar system from any hostile species and welcome any and all friendlies. That is what world peace is, TOTAL peace where everyone no longer commits crimes, murders, hates for being different and all that will not happen at all until we "Mature" as a species. Humanity is still in its infancy, after nearly a million years or more on this planet, our species is only just starting to learn to walk. It will be a long time before we can run or swim.

Even now, we are only ankle deep in the ocean of space, our move to Mars will bring us knee deep, but we are still not yet ready to swim in the ocean of space or even to sail on it to other solar systems or galaxies in total. It will still be a very long time before that.

Here's a quote I like to use alot to still conflicts between me and my friends:

"Peace cannot be kept by force, but through understanding." - Elbert Einstein

Anyways, this is my thoughts on how world peace will be.

~Hunter


I think that peace can only arrive if we all understand each other better. To do that, we need to look into our history books and read what needs to be learned. Then we can stop making the same mistakes again and again.

I mean, all of it is really in our head, because we think that others are going to attack us if they become superior to us so we step in and do something only to realize that we have just made ourselves more enemies.

tovaris
May 11th, 2013, 06:07 PM
Communist leaders have a history of restricting freedom of speech, human rights and whatnot. I don't support and never will support a communist regime or a leader. I would sooner kick his ass out of presidency before he becomes a new dictator or leave the country to where Communism is looked down on and never welcomed. Why? Because its a screwed up political party.


Name one such leder. Communised does not restrict fredom of spech it enkurages it. Communisem isnt a party its a social sistem where everyboydy is free.

Daracon
May 11th, 2013, 06:28 PM
Name one such leder. Communised does not restrict fredom of spech it enkurages it. Communisem isnt a party its a social sistem where everyboydy is free.

Here read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

tovaris
May 11th, 2013, 06:32 PM
Here read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

SU was not a communist country, if it was it would have braught pece, they were defenatly not a communist country because they did not folow communist ideas (like the dictatorship of the ploretatiat)

Jess
May 11th, 2013, 06:49 PM
No, it's not possible. People will always find a reason to fight, there will always be people who want to kill others for their beliefs or some other reason. Etc, etc.

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 11th, 2013, 07:09 PM
some people blame it on history. they say if we had not fought in those wars, this never would have happened. Plus, I have to admit, that we get ourselves involved in too many foreign affairs. Those people hate us because they think we're too pushy. Plus we have troops in their countries, so the best thing to do is to withdraw from them. Why stay when they can run their own country? Look at canada. Canada only cares for its population and country and that's about it.

We are pushy. That's part of the problem. We pushed too hard in Nam, and later in the Middle East, during Desert Storm. I guess you could somehow justify the former by saying it was another proxy war with the Soviets, but what about Desert Storm? Why the hell did we go there in the first place? What Iraq and Kuwait did was none of our business.

But that wasn't the case in the Iraq War and the War in Afghanistan. Al-Qaeda was protected by the Taliban, which makes 9/11 state sponsored terrorism. If you break it down, you could call 9/11 a declaration of war by both Afghanistan and Iraq, who were heavily influenced by the Taliban and were Al-Qaeda hotspots. Every American wanted to see the person responsible for these attacks brought to justice, and the Taliban prevented that. That's a valid cause for war.

There's also a downside to intervening in foreign conflicts too. Look at what's happened in Libya. What did our involvement there do? The NATO airstrikes killed Gadaffi, his government was overthrown, and the rebels seized power. Or should I say, Al-Qaeda took power? We fought to oust them from the Middle East, and now our involvement has cause their reemergence in Libya.

If someone is threatening our country and our way of life, we need to protect it. Otherwise, we should stay at the sidelines, no matter what. It's not our world to dictate the fate of other nations. Which is why I hope we never get involved in the Syrian Civil War.

nice
May 11th, 2013, 07:49 PM
Here read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

While I agree with what your trying to say and prove most people don't veiling Wikipedia since it can be altered by will and no one checks to make sure the info is right.

Daracon
May 11th, 2013, 09:43 PM
While I agree with what your trying to say and prove most people don't veiling Wikipedia since it can be altered by will and no one checks to make sure the info is right.

This has nothing to do with it being Wikipedia or not, it is not like someone invented what happened in Soviet Russia on Wikipedia. It is the overall message that I am trying to convey.

nice
May 11th, 2013, 09:58 PM
This has nothing to do with it being Wikipedia or not, it is not like someone invented what happened in Soviet Russia on Wikipedia. It is the overall message that I am trying to convey.

No need to get piss I know what you were trying to do I'm just making a point.

Cygnus
May 11th, 2013, 10:41 PM
It's about being realistic here, world peace could be achieved for like ten minutes at most, then someone would be murdered, guerrillas will attack villages, civil wars will break, and more.

Stronk Serb
May 12th, 2013, 01:05 AM
Communist leaders have a history of restricting freedom of speech, human rights and whatnot. I don't support and never will support a communist regime or a leader. I would sooner kick his ass out of presidency before he becomes a new dictator or leave the country to where Communism is looked down on and never welcomed. Why? Because its a screwed up political party.

Now, on to world peace. Yes, it can be achieved, not in the way people will think by inner conflicts within countries are disbanded and all that, but in essence where all the world's countries are joined as one, under one leader and one political party.

I'd like to think of this as The Federation, The World Nation, The Earth Sphere Unified Nation, The Earth Sphere Federation and one I like to call The United Federation of Sol.

Essentially, all countries disband their militaries and form them into one world wide military dedicated to protecting humanity and keeping the Sol System (Our Solar System) safe and peaceful. While hateful disputes about religion, ethnic origin or sexuality will appear, essentially, no large scale wars will be fought ever again. And the world would be free of WAR as we see it today. The only reason a large military like that would exist is to protect the solar system from any hostile species and welcome any and all friendlies. That is what world peace is, TOTAL peace where everyone no longer commits crimes, murders, hates for being different and all that will not happen at all until we "Mature" as a species. Humanity is still in its infancy, after nearly a million years or more on this planet, our species is only just starting to learn to walk. It will be a long time before we can run or swim.

Even now, we are only ankle deep in the ocean of space, our move to Mars will bring us knee deep, but we are still not yet ready to swim in the ocean of space or even to sail on it to other solar systems or galaxies in total. It will still be a very long time before that.

Here's a quote I like to use alot to still conflicts between me and my friends:

"Peace cannot be kept by force, but through understanding." - Elbert Einstein

Anyways, this is my thoughts on how world peace will be.

~Hunter

As much as my parents and grandparents can remember, in communist Yugoslavia we had freedom of speech and movement. If you are looking at some other regimes, those are totalitarian communist regimes, not pure communism like it was in Yugoslavia.

Name one such leder. Communised does not restrict fredom of spech it enkurages it. Communisem isnt a party its a social sistem where everyboydy is free.

Stalin, Chaushesky (that Romanian dude), Pol-Pot (Cambodia, killed 25% of the population). Still, those were totalitarian communism leaders except Pol-Pot, his regime wasn't even communist, it was fascist.
Here read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union

That is the Soviet Union, it did not have a true communist regime. If a real communist regime is to be established, it will be more like Communist Yugoslavia.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 04:46 AM
As much as my parents and grandparents can remember, in communist Yugoslavia we had freedom of speech and movement. If you are looking at some other regimes, those are totalitarian communist regimes, not pure communism like it was in Yugoslavia.



Stalin, Chaushesky (that Romanian dude), Pol-Pot (Cambodia, killed 25% of the population). Still, those were totalitarian communism leaders except Pol-Pot, his regime wasn't even communist, it was fascist.


That is the Soviet Union, it did not have a true communist regime. If a real communist regime is to be established, it will be more like Communist Yugoslavia.

what about north Korea they are pure communist and yeah you can say whatever you like... as long as it supports communism

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 12th, 2013, 05:12 AM
what about north Korea they are pure communist and yeah you can say whatever you like... as long as it supports communism

North Korea is hardly communist. Their ideology is called Juche - Self Reliant State. North Korea is more of a nationalist country which has accepted the tiniest parts of communism which serve them best, . Their constitution even omits all mention of the word communism.

Also, I agree with Comrade Mike. Yugoslavia was the closest thing to theoretical communism in history.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 05:33 AM
North Korea is hardly communist. Their ideology is called Juche - Self Reliant State. North Korea is more of a nationalist country which has accepted the tiniest parts of communism which serve them best, . Their constitution even omits all mention of the word communism.

Also, I agree with Comrade Mike. Yugoslavia was the closest thing to theoretical communism in history.

guess so but I've never herd of people having freedom of speech or there rights in a communist country

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 12th, 2013, 05:48 AM
guess so but I've never herd of people having freedom of speech or there rights in a communist country

Then you should read something on the subject of Yugoslavia.

The Soviet Union, or Stalin, rather, is giving communism a bad name. Stalin was as bad as Hitler. He had his own version of communism that you had to adhere or else you'd be locked in a gulag for the rest of your life. Communism in the Soviet Union would have been a great success if there were more people like Lenin. Stalin ruined everything the revolution accomplished.

The others, including China, didn't have real communism. China was, and still is, a communist state. After World War II, it was like the Soviet Union. It's leader had a cult of personality, but luckily for the Chinese, their leader wasn't a madman like Stalin. His rule was prosperous for the country, but not the people. His successors followed Mao's way of leadership for a long time. That's not real communism. The focus should be on the people, not the country.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 05:57 AM
Then you should read something on the subject of Yugoslavia.

The Soviet Union, or Stalin, rather, is giving communism a bad name. Stalin was as bad as Hitler. He had his own version of communism that you had to adhere or else you'd be locked in a gulag for the rest of your life. Communism in the Soviet Union would have been a great success if there were more people like Lenin. Stalin ruined everything the revolution accomplished.

The others, including China, didn't have real communism. China was, and still is, a communist state. After World War II, it was like the Soviet Union. It's leader had a cult of personality, but luckily for the Chinese, their leader wasn't a madman like Stalin. His rule was prosperous for the country, but not the people. His successors followed Mao's way of leadership for a long time. That's not real communism. The focus should be on the people, not the country.

fair enough I still don't agree with communist values I believe if yii have money it's yours and aren't you American?! I thought you guys hated communists

Stronk Serb
May 12th, 2013, 06:09 AM
fair enough I still don't agree with communist values I believe if yii have money it's yours and aren't you American?! I thought you guys hated communists

The working class hates only it's unfair bosses, not political movements where workers get a utopia for themselves. Of many "communist countries", none of them gave the workers the freedom. Better salaries, maybe, but not freedom. That s not real communism. In Stalin's USSR you would get sent to Siberia to work in a gulag if you complained that you were hungry. The only true or closest country which existed was Yugoslavia. There you had freedom, no nationalism, while Tito was alive corruption was not a part of society. You could be of any religion, every nationality, any kind of opinion about the state and speak it so that people know it, nobody would care. You would not be sent to a political prison and lashed to a wall. The only people who went to Goli Otok (Bare Isle) and Sveti Grgur were spies, terrorists and enemies of the state who were working against Yugoslavia and tried to hinder it.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 06:11 AM
The working class hates only it's unfair bosses, not political movements where workers get a utopia for themselves. Of many "communist countries", none of them gave the workers the freedom. Better salaries, maybe, but not freedom. That s not real communism. In Stalin's USSR you would get sent to Siberia to work in a gulag if you complained that you were hungry. The only true or closest country which existed was Yugoslavia. There you had freedom, no nationalism, while Tito was alive corruption was not a part of society. You could be of any religion, every nationality, any kind of opinion about the state and speak it so that people know it, nobody would care. You would not be sent to a political prison and lashed to a wall.

is the bad communism I don't lior then I guess pure communism is ok but I still like Britain:p

Stronk Serb
May 12th, 2013, 06:14 AM
is the bad communism I don't lior then I guess pure communism is ok but I still like Britain:p



The problem was, all Warsaw pact dictators had red flags with sickles and hammers, symbols of communism. That's why communism got a bad name.

Elysium
May 12th, 2013, 06:23 AM
I don't think so and never have. The only possible way I see is if the world was converted into a dystopia so that people wouldn't have the complete ability to think for themselves, but I fail to see the feasibility of achieving that. Not to mention that if anybody actually wanted to advocate for a global dystopia, they'd be the minority.

Hunter_Steel
May 12th, 2013, 06:28 AM
Unfortunately, the world has a way of corrupting any good notion. UN, EU and NATO were all good ideas, but look at them now. EU forces european countries to take on refugees and then the refugees take the work of the local person in that country causing unemployment, EU countries can't retract from the EU because they are heavily indebted to the EU. UN sticks its nose into other country's business where it doesn't belong and wonders why people hate them.

NATO just causes war and then looks like its trying to end it to uphold its peace keeping look. Communism will never, if what you say about Yugoslavia is true, then there won't be another communist leader like that for atleast another few centuries, in which time I hope the idea of liberalism, conservatism, republicanism, communism and socialism are all not thought of anymore and a new world order is established that combines the good of all the ideas but leaves out the bad parts of them all.

And sorry to say this, but... I won't obey any communist leader at all. I won't take the chance of that guy becoming the next big dictator.

~Hunter

Stronk Serb
May 12th, 2013, 06:39 AM
Unfortunately, the world has a way of corrupting any good notion. UN, EU and NATO were all good ideas, but look at them now. EU forces european countries to take on refugees and then the refugees take the work of the local person in that country causing unemployment, EU countries can't retract from the EU because they are heavily indebted to the EU. UN sticks its nose into other country's business where it doesn't belong and wonders why people hate them.

NATO just causes war and then looks like its trying to end it to uphold its peace keeping look. Communism will never, if what you say about Yugoslavia is true, then there won't be another communist leader like that for atleast another few centuries, in which time I hope the idea of liberalism, conservatism, republicanism, communism and socialism are all not thought of anymore and a new world order is established that combines the good of all the ideas but leaves out the bad parts of them all.

And sorry to say this, but... I won't obey any communist leader at all. I won't take the chance of that guy becoming the next big dictator.

~Hunter

The revolution, assuming it starts while we are alive, would go slowly because of prejudices like this. Perhaps a system could be made where the people would be asked about any large change, vote for it. If the voting right would be broken, or the leader would go against it (the decision of the public) the leader is to be executed as an enemy of the revolution and as an enemy of the worker class.

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 12th, 2013, 06:40 AM
fair enough I still don't agree with communist values I believe if yii have money it's yours and aren't you American?! I thought you guys hated communists

Did I ever say I agree with communism? Did I ever say I want to live in a communist country? I don't think so.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 07:24 AM
Did I ever say I agree with communism? Did I ever say I want to live in a communist country? I don't think so.

calm down god is it that time of the month?:p I was just saying Americans are famous for hating communism

Stronk Serb
May 12th, 2013, 07:46 AM
calm down god is it that time of the month?:p

That was a sexist statement.

I was just saying Americans are famous for hating communism



Not really, since there is a communist party in the US.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 07:55 AM
Not really, since there is a communist party in the US.

yes but no one likes them, America is famous for hating and fearing communism

Stronk Serb
May 12th, 2013, 07:56 AM
yes but no one likes them, America is famous for hating and fearing communism

They feared and still fear it. That's true. But I am not sure if everyone hated it.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 07:58 AM
They feared and still fear it. That's true. But I am not sure if everyone hated it.

they do have some support, mostly immigrants

Reanne
May 12th, 2013, 09:08 AM
It's not likely to happen when you have some parents brainwashing their kids to hate certain people/groups/countries and continue that on for hundreds of years.

Some people can't forgive and move on from the past. Violence solves nothing, so there must be a large number of morons who don't realize this and act selfishly.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 09:10 AM
It's not likely to happen when you have some parents brainwashing their kids to hate certain people/groups/countries and continue that on for hundreds of years.

Some people can't forgive and move on from the past. Violence solves nothing, so there must be a large number of morons who don't realize this and act selfishly.

agree with the first part, disagree with the second

Harry Smith
May 12th, 2013, 11:44 AM
Nope, ever heard of the Military Industrial complex that Ike and Kennedy warned about. The arms companies make such a profit of warfare, just like PMC's do.

Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind

survivorguilt
May 12th, 2013, 03:33 PM
calm down god is it that time of the month?:p I was just saying Americans are famous for hating communism

That's because they're misinformed about what communism is...

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 03:46 PM
Nope, ever heard of the Military Industrial complex that Ike and Kennedy warned about. The arms companies make such a profit of warfare, just like PMC's do.

Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind

war has been around forever and can actually be good

tovaris
May 12th, 2013, 04:48 PM
war has been around forever and can actually be good

How can posibly war be good

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 05:29 PM
How can posibly war be good

creates jobs, makes countries think twice about doing bad stuff and can make allies and get oil boosting your economy

tovaris
May 12th, 2013, 05:39 PM
creates jobs, makes countries think twice about doing bad stuff and can make allies and get oil boosting your economy

So basicly destruction, mor war, suffering, destroied nations...

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 05:46 PM
So basicly destruction, mor war, suffering, destroied nations...

how many times has the USA been to war? and they are one of the richest nations on earth and the only current superpower

tovaris
May 12th, 2013, 05:49 PM
how many times has the USA been to war? and they are one of the richest nations on earth and the only current superpower

They are in debt over theyr sky, and non of those wars was faught on theyr land.

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 05:51 PM
They are in debt over theyr sky, and non of those wars was faught on theyr land.

theyre still rich and powerful and war doesn't cause dept and OF COURSE THEY WASNT THEY ARE ALWAYS FOUGHT ON THE WEAKER NATION

tovaris
May 12th, 2013, 05:53 PM
theyre still rich and powerful and war doesn't cause dept and OF COURSE THEY WASNT THEY ARE ALWAYS FOUGHT ON THE WEAKER NATION


So you are saing you get of on the pain and sufering of others?

britishboy
May 12th, 2013, 06:00 PM
So you are saing you get of on the pain and sufering of others?

I wasn't saying that at all. and all wars can and should be avoided, just last week 3 British soilders died in Afghanistan:( wars are terrible I was just saying they can be for the greater good

tovaris
May 12th, 2013, 06:06 PM
I wasn't saying that at all. and all wars can and should be avoided, just last week 3 British soilders died in Afghanistan:( wars are terrible I was just saying they can be for the greater good

the grater good is pece and destruction of wepons.
My fathers generation faught in an armed conflict, my uncle faught on Kosovo, my grandfathers genration saw war, so did my grandfathers (my grandfathe was forced to work for three diferent sides and survived only just) ill be damed if i have to pick up a rifel and will do everithing to prevent that.

Hunter_Steel
May 13th, 2013, 03:34 AM
Here's a thing:

War is bad for humanity as it destroys us and other nations, but what is it good for aswell?

Think of it, without WWI and WWII we wouldn't have had the X-Ray, we wouldn't have brain surgeons, or we would but much later on in our history, like if WWII didn't happen, today might have been the first day a successful brain surgery was performed.

Infact, MOST of our technology comes from the military. The military uses technology for about a year or two, then they release certain schematics to the world so civilians can profit from this new technology. We owe so much of our technology to the people who gave their lives so the 21st century could happen. And even now, more new technology is being created for warfaring purposes, but some of it goes to better mankind in the field of medical sciences and engineering to help us live.

One thing and one reason why I hate Communism, it has the biggest potential to turn anyone into a dictator, democracy and other systems have lower potentials to create dictators, so I wonder why Communism is so great when most of the world's dictators were communists during the 20th century.

~Hunter

survivorguilt
May 13th, 2013, 06:12 AM
Here's a thing:

War is bad for humanity as it destroys us and other nations, but what is it good for aswell?

Think of it, without WWI and WWII we wouldn't have had the X-Ray, we wouldn't have brain surgeons, or we would but much later on in our history, like if WWII didn't happen, today might have been the first day a successful brain surgery was performed.

Infact, MOST of our technology comes from the military. The military uses technology for about a year or two, then they release certain schematics to the world so civilians can profit from this new technology. We owe so much of our technology to the people who gave their lives so the 21st century could happen. And even now, more new technology is being created for warfaring purposes, but some of it goes to better mankind in the field of medical sciences and engineering to help us live.

One thing and one reason why I hate Communism, it has the biggest potential to turn anyone into a dictator, democracy and other systems have lower potentials to create dictators, so I wonder why Communism is so great when most of the world's dictators were communists during the 20th century.

~Hunter

Most of our technology does NOT come from the military. Some of our technology may be used by the military before the citizenry uses it, but most of our technology does not come from the military. Edison, Ford, the Wright Brothers, Philo Farnsworth, the thousands of people working in silicon valley; they weren't military, and they were probably the major players of invention.

Stronk Serb
May 13th, 2013, 09:16 AM
theyre still rich and powerful and war doesn't cause dept and OF COURSE THEY WASNT THEY ARE ALWAYS FOUGHT ON THE WEAKER NATION

So you are stating that the US is a international imperialist bully, attacking and warmongering. The only ones profiting from wars these days are arms manufacturers. Everyone loses money. You do not have to wage war to get oil. Yugoslavian workers were building roads, bridges and hydroelectric dams all over Middle East, in return Yugoslavia got Middle Eastern oil, and our oil refining industry skyrocketed.

I wasn't saying that at all. and all wars can and should be avoided, just last week 3 British soilders died in Afghanistan:( wars are terrible I was just saying they can be for the greater good



Very rarely if it there is lot of money or resources involved, just like Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo etc.

britishboy
May 13th, 2013, 09:48 AM
So you are stating that the US is a international imperialist bully, attacking and warmongering. The only ones profiting from wars these days are arms manufacturers. Everyone loses money. You do not have to wage war to get oil. Yugoslavian workers were building roads, bridges and hydroelectric dams all over Middle East, in return Yugoslavia got Middle Eastern oil, and our oil refining industry skyrocketed.





Very rarely if it there is lot of money or resources involved, just like Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo etc.

3 INNOCENT BRITISH SOILDERS DIED BY STEPPING ON A MIND, REALLY SAD, and we mostly go to war for peace, oil is a bonus

tovaris
May 13th, 2013, 10:25 AM
3 INNOCENT BRITISH SOILDERS DIED BY STEPPING ON A MIND, REALLY SAD, and we mostly go to war for peace, oil is a bonus

How can you wage war ror pece it dosnt do together. War brings pece are you serious?

Stronk Serb
May 13th, 2013, 10:40 AM
3 INNOCENT BRITISH SOILDERS DIED BY STEPPING ON A MIND, REALLY SAD, and we mostly go to war for peace, oil is a bonus



Peace through warmongering? Even Soviet propaganda would not make up something that retarded as an excuse for a war for oil. In whatever country large-scale NATO actions ocur, the affected country becomes more unstable.

britishboy
May 13th, 2013, 10:45 AM
Peace through warmongering? Even Soviet propaganda would not make up something that retarded as an excuse for a war for oil. In whatever country large-scale NATO actions ocur, the affected country becomes more unstable.

you are so ungrateful!! we didn't have to drop them bombs on you! we could have scrapped them!
How can you wage war ror pece it dosnt do together. War brings pece are you serious?

for example the Falklands that conflict saved many people

tovaris
May 13th, 2013, 10:50 AM
you are so ungrateful!! we didn't have to drop them bombs on you! we could have scrapped them!


for example the Falklands that conflict saved many people

How are we ungrateful to you for bombing our countryman? You BOMBED a country for no good reson, and we are suposed to be grateful?

No war bringes pece the falkland clash merly prolonged the agonie and will drag the conflict further until all was is stopped.

Stronk Serb
May 13th, 2013, 10:52 AM
you are so ungrateful!! we didn't have to drop them bombs on you! we could have scrapped them

No, I just don't like NATO meddling in other countries' affairs.

britishboy
May 13th, 2013, 11:04 AM
No, I just don't like NATO meddling in other countries' affairs.

they were trying to wipe out a race!!!!!!!!!

How are we ungrateful to you for bombing our countryman? You BOMBED a country for no good reson, and we are suposed to be grateful?

No war bringes pece the falkland clash merly prolonged the agonie and will drag the conflict further until all was is stopped.

no people in Serbia should be grateful and the Falklands is at peace now but still at threat I agree that threat will be there infill we go to war with Argentina directly or they give up on trying to claim the islands

Double Post Merged~ Red Velvet

tovaris
May 13th, 2013, 11:09 AM
no people in Serbia should be grateful and the Falklands is at peace now but still at threat I agree that threat will be there infill we go to war with Argentina directly or they give up on trying to claim the islands

why shpuld serbians be grateful for being bombed?

britishboy
May 13th, 2013, 11:19 AM
why shpuld serbians be grateful for being bombed?

http:// en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

read it I'm not explaining it again it also talks about serian propaganda

tovaris
May 13th, 2013, 11:28 AM
http:// en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

read it I'm not explaining it again it also talks about serian propaganda

I can write anithing i want on wikipedia i can write an artice hoe ww2was faught by penguins in the goby dezert (alsu your url doesnt work)

britishboy
May 13th, 2013, 11:35 AM
I can write anithing i want on wikipedia i can write an artice hoe ww2was faught by penguins in the goby dezert (alsu your url doesnt work)

really penguins must have been well trained;) and try this
http:// www.google.com/search?q=cluster+bombing&tbm=isch
I don't like cluster bombs but they still are being used and you must admit are great weapons

Stronk Serb
May 13th, 2013, 11:55 AM
they were trying to wipe out a race!!!!!!!!!

You call self-defence from genocidal Albanian terrorists genocide?

no people in Serbia should be grateful and the Falklands is at peace now but still at threat I agree that threat will be there infill we go to war with Argentina directly or they give up on trying to claim the islands



No we are not grateful. And probably will never be since your bombing did not do shit to stop Milosevic's reign. Only we as a people rose and chose the lesser of the two evils, a currupt government, the first evil was Milosevic.

Hunter_Steel
May 13th, 2013, 02:47 PM
Most of our technology does NOT come from the military. Some of our technology may be used by the military before the citizenry uses it, but most of our technology does not come from the military. Edison, Ford, the Wright Brothers, Philo Farnsworth, the thousands of people working in silicon valley; they weren't military, and they were probably the major players of invention.

Sadly, your wrong.

They were not the major players for invention, before the Airplane was given to the public, it went to the military. Thomas edison created the pony express for delivering mail, but military mail and eventually civilian mail.

The military commissions and researches new technology every day, when they deem it not useful for military applications or usefull for military applications but also usefull for civilian it is sent to the public and given to civilian companies to use.

The military has and always will be the largest factor in terms of invention for mankind. Because without the military constantly researching things to be better than the enemy, we would not have the internet and a crap load more stuff that we have today.

~Hunter

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 13th, 2013, 06:54 PM
3 INNOCENT BRITISH SOILDERS DIED BY STEPPING ON A MIND, REALLY SAD, and we mostly go to war for peace, oil is a bonus

They stopped being innocent the moment they put on their uniform and took a rifle in their hands. The term innocent soldiers is an oxymoron.

Peace through warmongering? Even Soviet propaganda would not make up something that retarded as an excuse for a war for oil. In whatever country large-scale NATO actions ocur, the affected country becomes more unstable.

The war we're fighting now, against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda is such a war. Our troops invaded Iraq and Afghanistan so we can feel safe again, to make sure there's never another tragedy like 9/11.

The main objective in the Gulf War was getting oil. No one cared about what happened to Kuwait. Most Americans can't even find it on the map. When the Taliban came to power all over the Middle East, our government was worried that might threaten our oil supplies. So, naturally, oil was another big factor in the decision to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan. But the primary objective this time was locating Bin Laden, overthrowing the Taliban regimes and restoring peace.

The countries in the Middle East have always been unstable. That place has always been a battlefield. If anything, our presence there lowered tensions. As soon as our troops leave Afghanistan, there's going to be another Civil War. That's inevitable. If we keep our men there, that's not going to happen.

I can write anithing i want on wikipedia i can write an artice hoe ww2was faught by penguins in the goby dezert (alsu your url doesnt work)

You can't. Well technically, you can, but it'll be edited in 5 minutes of your posting. Wikipedia has moderators and administrators as well, and most people don't get permission to change articles for things as big as World War II without previously discussing it with other posters who are knowledgeable in that field.

randomnessqueen
May 13th, 2013, 08:59 PM
yes
but it depends on what you see world peace as.
if you think its when nothing ever goes wrong, then no, never.
i see it as life just happens naturally, and the majority knows how to react to situations that arise, without creating excessive problems.

TheBassoonist
May 13th, 2013, 11:26 PM
In theory, world peace works perfectly well. But so do communism and anarchy. But theory fails to factor in human will. If people aren't willing to accept every guideline required for world peace, then it will never happen.

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 01:10 AM
They stopped being innocent the moment they put on their uniform and took a rifle in their hands. The term innocent soldiers is an oxymoron.
.

were on a peace mission! were also building shops and giving locals supplies and they were blown up by a mine

Hunter_Steel
May 14th, 2013, 04:15 AM
3 british soldiers died... wow... thats a huge loss...

Honestly, more Americans are dying on that battlefield every day from RPGs, Snipers and machine gunners than mines. There are no innocent soldiers, everyone who puts on the uniform and picks up the gun resigns their innocence and becomes at peace with the fact that your now a soldier, there is a VERY high chance that you will die.

If you cry over the death of 3 dudes when hundreds more from you allies, civilians and even enemy are dying, then I see how far your care for the world goes.

Honestly, the Taliban if they come back will strike even harder than they did originally. So best of luck in finding them.

Back to the point: World Peace like most people think is not possible. Wars between Countries is what real world peace is like, but other than that. Its not possible. You won't be able to stop murders, robbers, rapists and all that. You won't be able to stop racial discrimination and sexual discrimination if its done in the privacy of one's own home. You won't be able to stop it all. This is the world, and thats how it will be for the next 3 centuries until humanity learns to mature and think past differences and actually look for a brighter future.

~Hunter

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 14th, 2013, 05:30 AM
were on a peace mission! were also building shops and giving locals supplies and they were blown up by a mine

We're not on a peace mission. We're at war.

I have no idea where you got that in your head, but our soldiers don't build shops for the Afghans. Yes, we give them supplies from time to time, but that's only because we bombed every inch of the country 10 years ago. We crippled the country, but it would be bad PR for ISAF to let everyone starve. That's why we give them supplies, not out of the kindness in our hearts.

Those three soldiers you keep crying about knew the likelihood of them going back home in a coffin was high. I'm not saying it's not sad, but they knew the risks going in. They didn't go to Afghanistan to build shops.

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 09:37 AM
We're not on a peace mission. We're at war.

I have no idea where you got that in your head, but our soldiers don't build shops for the Afghans. Yes, we give them supplies from time to time, but that's only because we bombed every inch of the country 10 years ago. We crippled the country, but it would be bad PR for ISAF to let everyone starve. That's why we give them supplies, not out of the kindness in our hearts.

Those three soldiers you keep crying about knew the likelihood of them going back home in a coffin was high. I'm not saying it's not sad, but they knew the risks going in. They didn't go to Afghanistan to build shops.

your a disgrace to America and I'm not crying about the soilders I said that we have casualties to, and were there to stop acid being poured on girls faces who go to school and killing the Taliban that want to kill our civilians, the British soilders do its to make the public want us there you, most of a soilders days now are patrolling and visiting the villagers you clearly no nothing

Stronk Serb
May 14th, 2013, 10:08 AM
your a disgrace to America and I'm not crying about the soilders I said that we have casualties to, and were there to stop acid being poured on girls faces who go to school and killing the Taliban that want to kill our civilians, the British soilders do its to make the public want us there you, most of a soilders days now are patrolling and visiting the villagers you clearly no nothing

Actually she is right. Please provide a source for that much oppression of female education. America does it for PR. If they were helping them, they would've at least rebuilt some of the things they bombed

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 10:25 AM
Actually she is right. Please provide a source for that much oppression of female education. America does it for PR. If they were helping them, they would've at least rebuilt some of the things they bombed

http:// m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUVyoFkXDaw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=eUVyoFkXDaw

ok I admit the Americans don't do that much but they do sometimes help us Brits out and both are Taliban not sure about the country though, but its the Taliban were fighting not the country

http:// edition.cnn.com/2012/11/03/world/asia/pakistan-acid-attack

Stronk Serb
May 14th, 2013, 10:35 AM
http:// m.youtube.com/watch?v=eUVyoFkXDaw&desktop_uri=/watch?v=eUVyoFkXDaw

ok I admit the Americans don't do that much but they do sometimes help us Brits out and both are Taliban not sure about the country though, but its the Taliban were fighting not the country

http:// edition.cnn.com/2012/11/03/world/asia/pakistan-acid-attack

The URLs...
Y U NO WORK?!

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 10:44 AM
The URLs...
Y U NO WORK?!
copy and paste these in google:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo6uRwwnFH0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2MkoTZZ0Ns&feature=youtube_gdata_player


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMlcbBD9qbA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Stronk Serb
May 14th, 2013, 10:56 AM
copy and paste these in google:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo6uRwwnFH0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2MkoTZZ0Ns&feature=youtube_gdata_player


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMlcbBD9qbA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The Talibans better go back to farming instead of spraying girls like that. That is wrong, but not a enough reason to make a whole country suffer. The fact that Reuters published this makes me see it as a more legitimate source since CNN became a propaganda house.

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 11:00 AM
The Talibans better go back to farming instead of spraying girls like that. That is wrong, but not a enough reason to make a whole country suffer. The fact that Reuters published this makes me see it as a more legitimate source since CNN became a propaganda house.

lol us brits are actually helping them rebuild because then theyre more likely to help us and the government will like us more but you must agree that the Taliban must be stopped have you herd of 9/ 11?

Stronk Serb
May 14th, 2013, 11:12 AM
lol us brits are actually helping them rebuild because then theyre more likely to help us and the government will like us more but you must agree that the Taliban must be stopped have you herd of 9/ 11?

That is ignorant, 9/11 was caused by Al-Qaeda. The Talibans were just ruling Afghanistan in a pretty dumb dictatorship.

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 11:59 AM
That is ignorant, 9/11 was caused by Al-Qaeda. The Talibans were just ruling Afghanistan in a pretty dumb dictatorship.
they support each other and al qaeda pour acid over women's faces as well

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 14th, 2013, 12:00 PM
your a disgrace to America and I'm not crying about the soilders I said that we have casualties to, and were there to stop acid being poured on girls faces who go to school and killing the Taliban that want to kill our civilians, the British soilders do its to make the public want us there you, most of a soilders days now are patrolling and visiting the villagers you clearly no nothing

Yup, they're patrolling villages looking for more people to kill. They're soldiers, that's why they're there.

It's not just the Taliban who don't want girls to go to school, it's the majority of Afghans. You can't force them to change. You can try, but you'll ultimately fail.

lol us brits are actually helping them rebuild because then theyre more likely to help us and the government will like us more but you must agree that the Taliban must be stopped have you herd of 9/ 11?

How the hell did stuff like this get in your head? Soldiers who were sent in to kill people building shops? Are you kidding me? :lol:

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. That was Al-Qaeda.

You're saying I clearly no nothing? I'm not even going to respond to that, it would take me an hour to reply to all your ignorant posts in this thread.

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 12:06 PM
Yup, they're patrolling villages looking for more people to kill. They're soldiers, that's why they're there.

It's not just the Taliban who don't want girls to go to school, it's the majority of Afghans. You can't force them to change. You can try, but you'll ultimately fail.



How the hell did stuff like this get in your head? Soldiers who were sent in to kill people building shops? Are you kidding me? :lol:

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9/11. That was Al-Qaeda.

You're saying I clearly no nothing? I'm not even going to respond to that, it would take me an hour to reply to all your ignorant posts in this thread.

yes it's part of our foreign aid and soilders don't just kill your really narrow sighted and ignorant.... but I admit I was wrong about the Taliban and in the UK we have many Muslims and they are happy with us and most girls want to go to school and it is legal, were allowing them there right

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 14th, 2013, 12:12 PM
yes it's part of our foreign aid and soilders don't just kill your really narrow sighted and ignorant.... but I admit I was wrong about the Taliban and in the UK we have many Muslims and they are happy with us and most girls want to go to school and it is legal, were allowing them there right

The soldiers don't build shops. Give me one source that says so. You know, a valid source, like Reuters.

Also, I didn't say that all Muslims forbid girls to go to school. I said the Afghans do. There's a difference. You can't generalize an entire religion.

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 12:14 PM
The soldiers don't build shops. Give me one source that says so. You know, a valid source, like Reuters.

Also, I didn't say that all Muslims forbid girls to go to school. I said the Afghans do. There's a difference. You can't generalize an entire religion.

you do no there are engineers and that in the army? people who have never seen blood and its British soilders not sure about NATO and most Afghanis want to and our scared about when out troops leave.
were also training there police force

Hunter_Steel
May 14th, 2013, 01:51 PM
Uhh... Militaries don't rebuild what they destroy, thats just ridiculous. Britain and America give supplies, the people rebuild what you guys bombed.

Soldiers are there to kill and protect, nothing more nothing less. Your told to shoot your enemy or face court martial, your told to protect your country and people you are fighting and killing for or don't even join the army. Thats how it is. Give a valid source to backup what you are saying or else its just personal opinion of what is happening when I see on the news everyday what is going on in Afghan.

~Hunter

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 02:54 PM
Uhh... Militaries don't rebuild what they destroy, thats just ridiculous. Britain and America give supplies, the people rebuild what you guys bombed.

Soldiers are there to kill and protect, nothing more nothing less. Your told to shoot your enemy or face court martial, your told to protect your country and people you are fighting and killing for or don't even join the army. Thats how it is. Give a valid source to backup what you are saying or else its just personal opinion of what is happening when I see on the news everyday what is going on in Afghan.

~Hunter

I was wrong oops:/ but we do give supplies and train the police I can prove that

Grand Admiral Thrawn
May 14th, 2013, 03:01 PM
you do no there are engineers and that in the army? people who have never seen blood and its British soilders not sure about NATO and most Afghanis want to and our scared about when out troops leave.
were also training there police force

Military engineers set up field medical camps and bridge rivers so the troops can cross. They don't build shops or any other civil structures.

Get off your high horse already. British troops this, British troops that. The UK is in NATO, just like the US. Your soldiers and our soldiers are tasked with the same thing.

The Afghans are scared that another Civil War might start. That's inevitable, and it'll happen as soon as we leave. The only thing that's stopping them from ripping each other's throats now is the fact that there's someone else choking them.

britishboy
May 14th, 2013, 03:06 PM
Military engineers set up field medical camps and bridge rivers so the troops can cross. They don't build shops or any other civil structures.

Get off your high horse already. British troops this, British troops that. The UK is in NATO, just like the US. Your soldiers and our soldiers are tasked with the same thing.

The Afghans are scared that another Civil War might start. That's inevitable, and it'll happen as soon as we leave. The only thing that's stopping them from ripping each other's throats now is the fact that there's someone else choking them.

I'm off the horse haha I was wrong but we do give supplys and train the police and it won't we won't allow it to

SkatingHero
May 14th, 2013, 04:18 PM
Not currently. 1. There will always be communism/capitalism wars. 2. There will always be terrorists that don't give a crap what everyone else thinks.

Lofiel
May 15th, 2013, 07:03 AM
People in this world who think they know things, tend to just be spouting off whatever the highest bidder pays the government to tell them.

Peace is no longer possible, because one man with a few hundred billion can afford to pay for wars against humanity and get away with it.

Synyster Shadows
May 16th, 2013, 02:04 PM
No. Every yin has its yang, and you can't have peace without hate.

this pretty much says it for me

britishboy
May 16th, 2013, 02:08 PM
peace is possible to the Western world, whens the last time we have been at threat? ww2 and Germany's now an ALLIE but world peace? no. people are to different

Bobbyhill
May 20th, 2013, 09:37 PM
There can be no real peace there can only be in temporary peace

Stephan
May 20th, 2013, 09:39 PM
NO. It is human nature to seek conflict because of man's insatiable need and desire for wanting more than what they already have.

Ace of Spades
May 20th, 2013, 09:52 PM
I think world peace is hypothetically possible, theoretically highly unlikely, practically impossible.

riverboy
May 20th, 2013, 09:53 PM
No it will never happen.

Kuurachan
May 20th, 2013, 11:03 PM
Nope. People will always find SOMETHING to argue about and start a war over. If we could just peacefully talk out our problems and stop all this senseless war, as well as put wise people in charge of government, we would. But then again, all cultures have different ideas for thing, Musims and Islamic people are against Christians and there is an eternal tension between Eurapian countries and such. Hate to be a downer, but there will forever be people to make bad choices and start a war :(

britishboy
May 21st, 2013, 01:02 AM
Nope. People will always find SOMETHING to argue about and start a war over. If we could just peacefully talk out our problems and stop all this senseless war, as well as put wise people in charge of government, we would. But then again, all cultures have different ideas for thing, Musims and Islamic people are against Christians and there is an eternal tension between Eurapian countries and such. Hate to be a downer, but there will forever be people to make bad choices and start a war :(

talking doesn't always work just look at ww2

crepesuzette
May 23rd, 2013, 11:02 PM
This is probably better off here.

TWPR :arrow: ROTW

thread closed please.

Emerald Dream
May 23rd, 2013, 11:10 PM
Locked at OP request. :locked: