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likemike
May 4th, 2013, 09:45 PM
A friend of mine recently told me that he thought that people of different races dating, having sex, or marrying was disgusting to him.
I dissagre with that 100%
How do you feel about it and why

Cygnus
May 4th, 2013, 10:25 PM
I personally do not find people of other races attractive (with maybe a few exceptions), however I do not find it disgusting, people can love whoever they want.

Jess
May 4th, 2013, 10:41 PM
Your friend has outdated thinking, no offense.

I find nothing wrong with interracial relationships. Why should the gender, race, etc matter?

chezhans
May 4th, 2013, 11:44 PM
Most of my friends tell me that. Its a pathetic theory.

Jevon
May 4th, 2013, 11:47 PM
Well I personally go for the darker girls so I obviously don't give a shit

Stryker125
May 4th, 2013, 11:54 PM
If two people want to be together, they should be together. That's all there is to it.

Cicero
May 5th, 2013, 12:09 AM
I see that viewpoint, I kinda agree yet disagree.

Like if I see a black guy and a white girl as a couple I think "Hmmm.", if I were to see a black guy and an Asian girl I would be like "Holy fuck!" I'm kinda used of a black guy then white girl couple, but I wouldn't be used of a black guy and Asian girl couple

When you say races, does it mean black, white, or Asian or does it mean black, English. Italian, etc.?

Cause if that's the case, I couldn't imagining marrying the soon to be predominant ethnicity (In the US). I could imagine dating them, but not having kids with them. But I want my wife to be Italian so that my kids can be at least 75% Italian and 25% English, my moms English and a bit German. Another ethnicity I would marry to would be French. Preferably Italian. Cause I want my kids to be a lot Italian (actually, Sicilian), and then my hopes for them would be to have a Sicilian spouse, so then their kids can be 85% Sicilian/Italian, and so on and so forth.

To those wondering, yes, there is a possibility I would never have kids with a woman who isn't of French or Italian Descent. But it depends, if my wife is so beautiful then I would say "Fuck the ethnicity thing" (so basically, if I know I'll never get a hotter wife in my wife I would marry her, but if I knew I would, I wouldn't).

And to those wondering the other question, yes, there are some ethnicities I would absolutely not want my kids to have kids with (hope that made sense :eek:), but those ethnicities will remain top secret, unless you would really want to know :>_>:

chrisawesome
May 5th, 2013, 12:56 AM
Ok before some dubass starts calling me racist, Love cant be broken. If you love someone then you should have that right, no matter if they are black with white, white with white, white with asian, asian with black, black with black, or even asian with mexican. Straight, Gay, or Bisexual.

But being a white guy, I do say that when I see a hot white girl that I could be with and she is with a black/asian/mexican/other... guy I feel a little disappointed. --But I dont see a reason to feel disgusted. Saying that you feel disgusted is a little extreme. I mean what, are you actually scrambling for a trash can because your going to hurl? Come on now!--

I am totally not racist, I just dont see people of other races as sexually attractive as us crusty white folks. I live in an racially diverse area and love being around people of opposite races

Stronk Serb
May 5th, 2013, 03:47 AM
My personal preference is my race, Caucasian. But I find nothing wrong in dating an Asian or black people. Hotness > skin color.

Hunter_Steel
May 5th, 2013, 05:25 AM
Personally, I am not attracted to Black people as much as I am attracted to Japanese people, or Hispanic people, but my biggest attraction is my own race which is Caucasian.

I don't see any problem with people dating who they want.

~Hunter

Left Now
May 5th, 2013, 05:48 AM
Any races are equal.

Gwen
May 5th, 2013, 06:16 AM
If someone loves someone let it be, no matter race nor gender. I don't find other races attractive usually, but I won't intervene if someone does :P

Ryhanna
May 5th, 2013, 07:00 AM
It's up to personal preference.

If I like someone, I like them - regardless of their skin colour or any other 'barrier.'

Southside
May 5th, 2013, 10:40 AM
My grandparents were a interracial couple, my grandpa was a Puerto Rican who spoke little English and came to America and married a African American from Georgia and had 10 kids. I dont see the problem with it..I dont know why, but I am somewhat attracted to Asians..I'm still trying to find my racial idenity personally..I dont know what I am...

Sir Suomi
May 5th, 2013, 10:43 AM
I would have no problem dating anyone of any ethnicity. Gender, Race, Religion, who cares? If you love them, and they love you, nobody should stop that from happening.

tovaris
May 5th, 2013, 05:14 PM
only a good genetick mix can come from a multiracial equasion

Jean Poutine
May 5th, 2013, 05:42 PM
To the people who would reject somebody based on a criterion they cannot help : I hope you never reproduce, knobheads. Humans are humans. Dogs don't go around saying "oh I'll fuck this Poodle but shiiiiiit Labradors are so ugly". When animals without sentience are better beings than you are, it's time to look in the mirror and re-evaluate your life. True love is unconditional, it doesn't depend on skin tone and/or ethnicity. There's beautiful people of every race and there's also ugly as shit people from every race, inside and outside.

Ace of Spades
May 5th, 2013, 06:13 PM
If someone's race is a factor in deciding if you like them, then you have some racist attributes.
Racism is, by definition, the belief that (a) certain race(s) has/have lesser or greater qualities than those of another race. That being said, finding someone less/more attractive because of their race is racist.
That is the problem with saying something along the lines of "I find white people more attractive than black people". This statement is racist because, by saying it, the person is not only implying but flat out stating that white people have superior characteristics to black people.

I'm not calling out anybody in particular, I'm just pointing out that all of us need to watch what we say.

comical
May 5th, 2013, 06:54 PM
If someone's race is a factor in deciding if you like them, then you have some racist attributes.

Agreed.

Love is blind. I don't see anything wrong with dating someone of another race. A girl is a girl, I like them all. lol. Beauty ain't but skin deep. It's the values of the inside that matter.

Desuetude
May 6th, 2013, 06:04 PM
It's up to personal preference.

If I like someone, I like them - regardless of their skin colour or any other 'barrier.'
I agree, you can't help who you fall for and if someone is going to be as shallow minded as to care about their race then it's their lucky escape.

People look at me like I'm crazy when I say I'm not particularly attracted to Indian guys, being Indian myself but it's all down to personal preference. It's not disgusting to be with someone of a different race and nor should mixed race couples be frowned upon in society. Both my parents have had white partners and we've had some funny looks, it's really annoying knowing some people don't 'approve' when it's none of their business.

Erasmus
May 6th, 2013, 06:08 PM
What possible reason is there to back up the idea that interracial marriage/relationships are bad? I mean, come on, it's ridiculous.

TinyDancer
May 6th, 2013, 06:15 PM
It amazes me that race and gender still is an issue when it comes to true love. It's not an issue between the 2 people in love. It becomes an issue when others involve themselves with the two people in love for whatever reason. Can't we just direct that energy to go to Mars?

Elysium
May 6th, 2013, 06:40 PM
I see no problem with interracial relationships because why the hell does it make a difference?

Celtic.
May 7th, 2013, 07:36 AM
i honestly dont care. However some one pointed out if she saw an Asian and black couple she'd freak out. I agree with that point since Being Black i know Most Asians dont like us. (besides japanese) Example. Koreans and Black people hate each other

Bethany
May 7th, 2013, 09:11 PM
i honestly dont care. However some one pointed out if she saw an Asian and black couple she'd freak out. I agree with that point since Being Black i know Most Asians dont like us. (besides japanese) Example. Koreans and Black people hate each other

So you'd freak out if you saw an Asian and black couple because SOME Asians and blacks don't like each other?

Celtic.
May 8th, 2013, 08:00 AM
So you'd freak out if you saw an Asian and black couple because SOME Asians and blacks don't like each other?
not in that way. Not like OMG GET THEM AWAY FROM EACH OTHER!
where im from Its RARE to see an Asian and Black couple

Bethany
May 8th, 2013, 12:51 PM
not in that way. Not like OMG GET THEM AWAY FROM EACH OTHER!
where im from Its RARE to see an Asian and Black couple

Hahaha, okay, that's reasonable. Yeah, same here...Might just be statistically uncommon because Asians are only 5%ish of US population and blacks are only 13%ish.

Human
May 8th, 2013, 02:10 PM
I think naturally it's more common for people to be more attracted to their own race as they're more familiar. (or are racist or something)

I have no problem with interracial relationships at all.

Celtic.
May 8th, 2013, 04:19 PM
I think naturally it's more common for people to be more attracted to their own race as they're more familiar. (or are racist or something)not necessarily. Im attracted to my own race but im also attracted to Latinas.and i mean reaaaaaaaaaalllllllly.......... ok you get the picture

naglfari
May 8th, 2013, 06:23 PM
I see that viewpoint, I kinda agree yet disagree.

Like if I see a black guy and a white girl as a couple I think "Hmmm.", if I were to see a black guy and an Asian girl I would be like "Holy fuck!" I'm kinda used of a black guy then white girl couple, but I wouldn't be used of a black guy and Asian girl couple

When you say races, does it mean black, white, or Asian or does it mean black, English. Italian, etc.?

Cause if that's the case, I couldn't imagining marrying the soon to be predominant ethnicity (In the US). I could imagine dating them, but not having kids with them. But I want my wife to be Italian so that my kids can be at least 75% Italian and 25% English, my moms English and a bit German. Another ethnicity I would marry to would be French. Preferably Italian. Cause I want my kids to be a lot Italian (actually, Sicilian), and then my hopes for them would be to have a Sicilian spouse, so then their kids can be 85% Sicilian/Italian, and so on and so forth.

To those wondering, yes, there is a possibility I would never have kids with a woman who isn't of French or Italian Descent. But it depends, if my wife is so beautiful then I would say "Fuck the ethnicity thing" (so basically, if I know I'll never get a hotter wife in my wife I would marry her, but if I knew I would, I wouldn't).

And to those wondering the other question, yes, there are some ethnicities I would absolutely not want my kids to have kids with (hope that made sense :eek:), but those ethnicities will remain top secret, unless you would really want to know :>_>:
god you are so disgusting

Jess
May 8th, 2013, 07:15 PM
I see that viewpoint, I kinda agree yet disagree.

Like if I see a black guy and a white girl as a couple I think "Hmmm.", if I were to see a black guy and an Asian girl I would be like "Holy fuck!" I'm kinda used of a black guy then white girl couple, but I wouldn't be used of a black guy and Asian girl couple

When you say races, does it mean black, white, or Asian or does it mean black, English. Italian, etc.?

Cause if that's the case, I couldn't imagining marrying the soon to be predominant ethnicity (In the US). I could imagine dating them, but not having kids with them. But I want my wife to be Italian so that my kids can be at least 75% Italian and 25% English, my moms English and a bit German. Another ethnicity I would marry to would be French. Preferably Italian. Cause I want my kids to be a lot Italian (actually, Sicilian), and then my hopes for them would be to have a Sicilian spouse, so then their kids can be 85% Sicilian/Italian, and so on and so forth.

To those wondering, yes, there is a possibility I would never have kids with a woman who isn't of French or Italian Descent. But it depends, if my wife is so beautiful then I would say "Fuck the ethnicity thing" (so basically, if I know I'll never get a hotter wife in my wife I would marry her, but if I knew I would, I wouldn't).

And to those wondering the other question, yes, there are some ethnicities I would absolutely not want my kids to have kids with (hope that made sense :eek:), but those ethnicities will remain top secret, unless you would really want to know :>_>:

Agreeing with naglfari here.

If say, your daughter, fell in love with a person of an ethnicity you don't want her to have kids with...what will you do? Why should it matter what ethnicity the guy she loves is, if he ends up being kind and caring and loving? Are you going to force her to end the relationship?

Cicero
May 8th, 2013, 08:50 PM
Agreeing with naglfari here.

If say, your daughter, fell in love with a person of an ethnicity you don't want her to have kids with...what will you do? Why should it matter what ethnicity the guy she loves is, if he ends up being kind and caring and loving? Are you going to force her to end the relationship?

It depends on what ethnicity they would marry, basically, i wouldn't want it the ethnicities I myself wouldn't marry.

I won't say those ethnicities, but what I will say is it would be ethnicities that would make my kids or grandkids looks completely different from European or Italian. I would be open to marry most ethnicities, but I'd prefer my wife to be of Italian descent, then French.


god you are so disgusting

To the both of you.

It's not really disgusting/racist to want to marry someone of the same ethnicity, just how it's not disgusting for horse breeds to breed with certain horses to make them more powerful and stronger and faster. There is one ethnicity that I wouldn't want to have kids with, because they would look Alien compared to me. Not saying they look alien, but you would probably confuse my kid to be someone else's kid.

Sugaree
May 8th, 2013, 08:59 PM
Cicero has a point. It's actually completely natural to not want your children dating certain people. The only coincidence would be if they happen to be of another racial background. There's nothing wrong with interracial relationships, of course, but it's just the fact that many people are still not comfortable enough with them.

Bethany
May 8th, 2013, 09:11 PM
It depends on what ethnicity they would marry, basically, i wouldn't want it the ethnicities I myself wouldn't marry.

I won't say those ethnicities, but what I will say is it would be ethnicities that would make my kids or grandkids looks completely different from European or Italian. I would be open to marry most ethnicities, but I'd prefer my wife to be of Italian descent, then French.


You do realize, this would sound pretty racist if you replaced "those/the ethnicities" with "black people" or "Asian people"...

There is one ethnicity that I wouldn't want to have kids with, because they would look Alien compared to me. Not saying they look alien, but you would probably confuse my kid to be someone else's kid.

I kinda get what you mean by this...but couldn't they end up looking completely different from you even if they aren't mixed race with a non-European race? I know people who look absolutely nothing like one of their parents.

Cicero
May 8th, 2013, 09:16 PM
You do realize, this would sound pretty racist if you replaced "those/the ethnicities" with "black people" or "Asian people"...



I kinda get what you mean by this...but couldn't they end up looking completely different from you even if they aren't mixed race with a non-European race? I know people who look absolutely nothing like one of their parents.

I have black hair basically, if my kid had blonde, I wouldn't care.

But I would care if they looked way different. I can't say, cause it'd be racist. But I wouldn't care if I had white skin and my kid had dark skin, like brown. I would want to recognize my kid as my own, as a piece of me. That's also why I would never adopt, adoption is for some, yet not for others.

I also wouldn't adopt, because if I ended up having a child, I couldn't help but show favoritism. Which I'd feel terrible about. If my kid wanted to marry a black or Asian, I wouldn't say I hate them or I wouldn't spit in their face. I'd just be a little sad, because the chances of that kid looking like my child would get slimmer. I do find blacks and Asians attractive, well, to a degree. It seems like a lot of Asians look alike, which again, is not racist. Because if you aren't grown around a bunch of Asians, its harder to recognize the different facial features. Whereas in Japan or china, they all look completely different. Just how Asians say a lot of white people look the same.

Bethany
May 8th, 2013, 09:41 PM
I have black hair basically, if my kid had blonde, I wouldn't care.

But I would care if they looked way different. I can't say, cause it'd be racist. But I wouldn't care if I had white skin and my kid had dark skin, like brown. I would want to recognize my kid as my own, as a piece of me. That's also why I would never adopt, adoption is for some, yet not for others.

I also wouldn't adopt, because if I ended up having a child, I couldn't help but show favoritism. Which I'd feel terrible about. If my kid wanted to marry a black or Asian, I wouldn't say I hate them or I wouldn't spit in their face. I'd just be a little sad, because the chances of that kid looking like my child would get slimmer. I do find blacks and Asians attractive, well, to a degree. It seems like a lot of Asians look alike, which again, is not racist. Because if you aren't grown around a bunch of Asians, its harder to recognize the different facial features. Whereas in Japan or china, they all look completely different. Just how Asians say a lot of white people look the same.

Oh, okay, this makes sense. I definitely understand where you're coming from. Thanks for helping me to understand!

BebeFleur.
May 8th, 2013, 10:45 PM
Again, you can't say who someone should love or not.

Why do people not agree? They aren't used to it. For example, I may be temporarily thrown by seeing an African American-Hispanic couple as I am not used to seeing it.

How do I feel? I am Asian and and I feel 0 obligation to marrying Chinese man. Actually, I prefer the looks of men of other races than Chinese, lol.

naglfari
May 8th, 2013, 11:38 PM
It depends on what ethnicity they would marry, basically, i wouldn't want it the ethnicities I myself wouldn't marry.

I won't say those ethnicities, but what I will say is it would be ethnicities that would make my kids or grandkids looks completely different from European or Italian. I would be open to marry most ethnicities, but I'd prefer my wife to be of Italian descent, then French.




To the both of you.

It's not really disgusting/racist to want to marry someone of the same ethnicity, just how it's not disgusting for horse breeds to breed with certain horses to make them more powerful and stronger and faster. There is one ethnicity that I wouldn't want to have kids with, because they would look Alien compared to me. Not saying they look alien, but you would probably confuse my kid to be someone else's kid.
you're extremely racist. that's no surprise to me though.

Cicero
May 8th, 2013, 11:54 PM
you're extremely racist. that's no surprise to me though.

Proof?

Jess
May 8th, 2013, 11:57 PM
Again, you can't say who someone should love or not.

Why do people not agree? They aren't used to it. For example, I may be temporarily thrown by seeing an African American-Hispanic couple as I am not used to seeing it.

How do I feel? I am Asian and and I feel 0 obligation to marrying Chinese man. Actually, I prefer the looks of men of other races than Chinese, lol.

Same here :D (I'm Chinese and rather not marry another Chinese lol)

Ace of Spades
May 9th, 2013, 12:24 AM
Cause if that's the case, I couldn't imagining marrying the soon to be predominant ethnicity (In the US). I could imagine dating them, but not having kids with them. But I want my wife to be Italian so that my kids can be at least 75% Italian and 25% English, my moms English and a bit German. Another ethnicity I would marry to would be French. Preferably Italian. Cause I want my kids to be a lot Italian (actually, Sicilian), and then my hopes for them would be to have a Sicilian spouse, so then their kids can be 85% Sicilian/Italian, and so on and so forth.

To those wondering, yes, there is a possibility I would never have kids with a woman who isn't of French or Italian Descent. But it depends, if my wife is so beautiful then I would say "Fuck the ethnicity thing" (so basically, if I know I'll never get a hotter wife in my wife I would marry her, but if I knew I would, I wouldn't).

And to those wondering the other question, yes, there are some ethnicities I would absolutely not want my kids to have kids with (hope that made sense :eek:), but those ethnicities will remain top secret, unless you would really want to know

This entire thing is exceptionally racist. Especially the last two parts.

It depends on what ethnicity they would marry, basically, i wouldn't want it the ethnicities I myself wouldn't marry.

I won't say those ethnicities, but what I will say is it would be ethnicities that would make my kids or grandkids looks completely different from European or Italian. I would be open to marry most ethnicities, but I'd prefer my wife to be of Italian descent, then French.

It's not really disgusting/racist to want to marry someone of the same ethnicity, just how it's not disgusting for horse breeds to breed with certain horses to make them more powerful and stronger and faster. There is one ethnicity that I wouldn't want to have kids with, because they would look Alien compared to me. Not saying they look alien, but you would probably confuse my kid to be someone else's kid.

Again, xenophobic.

I have black hair basically, if my kid had blonde, I wouldn't care.

But I would care if they looked way different. I can't say, cause it'd be racist. But I wouldn't care if I had white skin and my kid had dark skin, like brown. I would want to recognize my kid as my own, as a piece of me. That's also why I would never adopt, adoption is for some, yet not for others.

I also wouldn't adopt, because if I ended up having a child, I couldn't help but show favoritism. Which I'd feel terrible about. If my kid wanted to marry a black or Asian, I wouldn't say I hate them or I wouldn't spit in their face. I'd just be a little sad, because the chances of that kid looking like my child would get slimmer. I do find blacks and Asians attractive, well, to a degree. It seems like a lot of Asians look alike, which again, is not racist. Because if you aren't grown around a bunch of Asians, its harder to recognize the different facial features. Whereas in Japan or china, they all look completely different. Just how Asians say a lot of white people look the same.

You're a xenophobe and an extreme racist.

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 01:36 AM
This entire thing is exceptionally racist. Especially the last two parts.



Again, xenophobic.



You're a xenophobe and an extreme racist.

It's not racist wanting to have kids with an Italian woman. I'm especially not an xenophobe, especially when I'm saying I'd want an Italian or French wife. If anything, that's the opposite of xenophobe.

Your logic
Wanting a wife from Italy/France = Xenophobe

Normal/Sane logic
Wanting a wife from Italy/France = Xenophile

naglfari
May 9th, 2013, 08:52 AM
Proof?

The post I quoted when I said you're racist is proof you're racist. That's why I quoted it saying you're racist. You're crazy racist

Professional Russian
May 9th, 2013, 09:31 AM
"I find white people more attractive than black people"

That isn't racist. That is stating that person finds white people more attractive for themselve that's a personal opinion. If I say I think black people are more attractive that make me racist?

naglfari
May 9th, 2013, 10:01 AM
But being uncomfortable with interracial couples is the definition of racism

Ace of Spades
May 9th, 2013, 03:21 PM
It's not racist wanting to have kids with an Italian woman. I'm especially not an xenophobe, especially when I'm saying I'd want an Italian or French wife. If anything, that's the opposite of xenophobe.

Your logic
Wanting a wife from Italy/France = Xenophobe

Normal/Sane logic
Wanting a wife from Italy/France = Xenophile

No, that's not what I said. You clearly stated that you would avoid marrying someone because of their ethnicity and where they're from. That is racist and xenophobic.

That isn't racist. That is stating that person finds white people more attractive for themselve that's a personal opinion. If I say I think black people are more attractive that make me racist?

If you said that, yes, it would be racist. You would be saying that you find black people less attractive because of their race. That is racist.

-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

Professional Russian
May 9th, 2013, 03:47 PM
If you said that, yes, it would be racist. You would be saying that you find black people less attractive because of their race. That is racist.

Its called personal preference. Everyone has one. Someone's not racist because they wont marry a black person

Ace of Spades
May 9th, 2013, 04:19 PM
Its called personal preference. Everyone has one. Someone's not racist because they wont marry a black person

Uhhhh... Yeah they are. At the very least extremely prejudiced.

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 04:44 PM
No, that's not what I said. You clearly stated that you would avoid marrying someone because of their ethnicity and where they're from. That is racist and xenophobic.



If you said that, yes, it would be racist. You would be saying that you find black people less attractive because of their race. That is racist.

-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

I never said, "I won't marry someone from Africa/Europe/Asia/etc." so that doesn't make me a xenophobe. I also do not fear them or have an irrational fear toward them, go read what it means in the dictionary. What I said shows no sign of xenophobe. At all. If I were one, I'd fear marrying an Asian, or I'd dislike blacks. I don't fear marrying anyone, I just wouldnt want to marry an Asian or a black person, that's not an irrational fear or dislike. That's called having a preference. Some people prefer brunettes over blondes, or blondes over brunettes, or even red heads over both of those. Just because I'd prefer to marry/date a brunette, doesn't mean I hate or fear red heads or blondes. Just means I find brunettes more attractive.

Ace of Spades
May 9th, 2013, 04:49 PM
I never said, "I won't marry someone from Africa/Europe/Asia/etc." so that doesn't make me a xenophobe. I also do not fear them or have an irrational fear toward them, go read what it means in the dictionary. What I said shows no sign of xenophobe. At all. If I were one, I'd fear marrying an Asian, or I'd dislike blacks. I don't fear marrying anyone, I just wouldnt want to marry an Asian or a black person, that's not an irrational fear or dislike. That's called having a preference. Some people prefer brunettes over blondes, or blondes over brunettes, or even red heads over both of those. Just because I'd prefer to marry/date a brunette, doesn't mean I hate or fear red heads or blondes. Just means I find brunettes more attractive.

I don't even know why I'm discussing this with you.

The racist things you said were when you said that there were races which you would refuse to marry. That was extremely prejudicial and racist.
This doesn't have anything to do with hair color.

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 04:50 PM
The post I quoted when I said you're racist is proof you're racist. That's why I quoted it saying you're racist. You're crazy racist

But being uncomfortable with interracial couples is the definition of racism

Good to know a useless fact.

That post was not at all racist, it's called having a particular preference.

It's not racist wanting my kid to be as much Italian as possible. Racist meanings believing ones race is superior toward another, I don't believe whites or Italians are superior to French or blacks, I just want my kid to be Italian. Doesn't show superiority. It's like how many old fashioned Asians only want their kids to marry Asian, because that person will know the culture and understand it much more than a non Asian. But I'm basically talking to a brick wall, cause you'll think that's racist and wrong, you always have something to complain about.

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 04:53 PM
I don't even know why I'm discussing this with you.

The racist things you said were when you said that there were races which you would refuse to marry. That was extremely prejudicial and racist.
This doesn't have anything to do with hair color.

It's called an analogy :rolleyes: I'm talking to a brick wall it seems (nothing against your haircolor, cause I know you'll find offense in that)

I said I wouldn't want to marry a particular race because I want my kids to be of my families race/ethnicity, Italian.

Ace of Spades
May 9th, 2013, 04:55 PM
It's called an analogy :rolleyes: I'm talking to a brick wall it seems (nothing against your haircolor, cause I know you'll find offense in that)

I said I wouldn't want to marry a particular race because I want my kids to be of my families race/ethnicity, Italian.

Thats prejudice

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 05:01 PM
Thats prejudice

No. It's not. It's having a particular taste, I find the Italian culture much more interesting and rich. Nothing wrong with that.

But I do admit, I am prejudice, but not for these reasons. Sure, Itd be prejudice about hair color, or how someone was raised. But that doesn't matter, I'm certainly not prejudice for these reasons.

Ace of Spades
May 9th, 2013, 05:03 PM
No. It's not. It's having a particular taste, I find the Italian culture much more interesting and rich. Nothing wrong with that.

But I do admit, I am prejudice, but not for these reasons. Sure, I'm prejudice about hair color, or how someone was raised. But that doesn't matter, I'm certainly not prejudice for these reasons.

You just contradicted yourself. Come back when you have your ideas in order. Until then, I'm done with this conversation.

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 05:05 PM
You just contradicted yourself. Come back when you have your ideas in order. Until then, I'm done with this conversation.

No I didn't.


I said I'm prejudice, but certainly not for these reasons that you are claiming.

naglfari
May 9th, 2013, 09:10 PM
Good to know a useless fact.

That post was not at all racist, it's called having a particular preference.

It's not racist wanting my kid to be as much Italian as possible. Racist meanings believing ones race is superior toward another, I don't believe whites or Italians are superior to French or blacks, I just want my kid to be Italian. Doesn't show superiority. It's like how many old fashioned Asians only want their kids to marry Asian, because that person will know the culture and understand it much more than a non Asian. But I'm basically talking to a brick wall, cause you'll think that's racist and wrong, you always have something to complain about.

it is racist.

having a preference in looks based on attraction, ehh not so much although probably a lot of that has to do with what kinds of people media tells us are most attractive.

but saying you want your KID to be the same race because you wouldn't feel as connected to them otherwise, or that you find it weird when you see other interracial couples. that's really f-in racist

AlexBarrett
May 9th, 2013, 09:34 PM
Personal, I wouldn't go out with a black girl. Mainly because I'm just not attracted to black people. But then again, I can be a little racist at times....well.... all the time.... you're right, I'm going to hell.

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 11:28 PM
it is racist.

having a preference in looks based on attraction, ehh not so much although probably a lot of that has to do with what kinds of people media tells us are most attractive.

but saying you want your KID to be the same race because you wouldn't feel as connected to them otherwise, or that you find it weird when you see other interracial couples. that's really f-in racist
Nope.


I don't care what ethnicity, If I had a black wife, I'd feel just as connected to My son. If I had an Asian wife I wouldn't feel so connected with my son cause he'd look opposite of me. It's to racist and I don't go off of what media tells me. I go off of what I find attractive. I already know I won't have a black or Asian wife, cause that's not my style, I like European only. Idk why and Idc

You don't know what racist is, I don't think I'm superior to any other race, and what you described in the bold, does not make me racist. Go back to 6th grade and learn your big boy words. Racist doesn't mean what you said.

Finding it weird doesn't make anyone racist, and I never said it was weird, for a black and white couple, I had no opinion about so I said "hmmm" with a black or Asian I'd be like "holy fuck!" That shows surprise, not racism.


You don't know what you're talking about, so leave if you're going to misquote me. Maybe you're schizophrenic and seeing words that you wanted to see me say.

Cicero
May 9th, 2013, 11:49 PM
Uhhhh... Yeah they are. At the very least extremely prejudiced.

You have trouble with words and definitions.

Racism
noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.
adjective
2.
of or like racists or racism: racist policies; racist attitudes.

No where does having a preference show that you are racist, doesn't matter if you have a preference of black, white, or Asian. It doesn't make you racist. Damn.

There you go
http://i.imgur.com/mHs8PZFl.jpg

Ace of Spades
May 10th, 2013, 12:30 AM
You have trouble with words and definitions.

Racism
noun
1.
a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.
adjective
2.
of or like racists or racism: racist policies; racist attitudes.

No where does having a preference show that you are racist, doesn't matter if you have a preference of black, white, or Asian. It doesn't make you racist. Damn.

There you go
image (http://i.imgur.com/mHs8PZFl.jpg)

Preference
noun
1. a greater liking for one alternative over another or others.

You prefer one race over another, therefore you think that one is better than the other. The word "superior" is a direct synonym and can be used interchangeably with "better". This means that you think that one race is superior or has superior qualities to the other, ergo, you are a flaming racist.

Cicero
May 10th, 2013, 12:42 AM
Preference
noun
1. a greater liking for one alternative over another or others.

You prefer one race over another, therefore you think that one is better than the other. The word "superior" is a direct synonym and can be used interchangeably with "better". This means that you think that one race is superior or has superior qualities to the other, ergo, you are a flaming racist.

Just because e you prefer one race doesn't mean you think one is better or superior. It's a preference, I have a preference for vanilla more than chocolate. Chocolate is not any less than vanilla.

Preference-
A greater liking for one alternative over another

Liking-
A feeling of regard or fondness

Preference does not mean superior, it means greater liking, liking means a feeling of fondness, not superiority.

Ace of Spades
May 10th, 2013, 12:58 AM
Just because e you prefer one race doesn't mean you think one is better or superior. It's a preference, I have a preference for vanilla more than chocolate. Chocolate is not any less than vanilla.

Preference-
A greater liking for one alternative over another

Liking-
A feeling of regard or fondness

Preference does not mean superior, it means greater liking, liking means a feeling of fondness, not superiority.

I posted the dictionary definition of preference. WORD FOR WORD.

Just admit it, you're a racist jerk who's in denial.

Cicero
May 10th, 2013, 01:31 AM
I posted the dictionary definition of preference. WORD FOR WORD.

Just admit it, you're a racist jerk who's in denial.

I'm not a racist jerk because I have a preference. Even others have agreed with me. So you're calling many people on here who have said that they wouldn't personally date a black persona racist jerk.


I personally do not find people of other races attractive (with maybe a few exceptions), however I do not find it disgusting, people can love whoever they want.

My personal preference is my race, Caucasian. But I find nothing wrong in dating an Asian or black people. Hotness > skin color.

Personally, I am not attracted to Black people as much as I am attracted to Japanese people, or Hispanic people, but my biggest attraction is my own race which is Caucasian.

I don't see any problem with people dating who they want.

~Hunter

If someone loves someone let it be, no matter race nor gender. I don't find other races attractive usually, but I won't intervene if someone does :P

I think naturally it's more common for people to be more attracted to their own race as they're more familiar. (or are racist or something)

I have no problem with interracial relationships at all.

Cicero has a point. It's actually completely natural to not want your children dating certain people. The only coincidence would be if they happen to be of another racial background. There's nothing wrong with interracial relationships, of course, but it's just the fact that many people are still not comfortable enough with them.

*everyone I just quoted, this isn't towards you.


Many people up there ^ have either said I have a point, or they have said they wouldn't personally date anyone of another race. So you, ace of spades, are calling them racist jerks, simply for saying "I wouldn't date someone of another race". It's not racist, and there's nothing wrong with it, as it has been pointed out. I find myself more attracted to French and Italian women, and so do other guys. That doesn't make us racist. I want my kids to be Italian, so we can have a common culture and because I love and admire the Italian culture more than any other out there. It's not different than native Americans, who want to keep the bloodline Native American. It's something special to them, and I'd want to make it something special and have my kids be as Italian as possible (which is only 85%).

Just because I want my kids to be Italian, doesn't mean I'm saying "Blacks/Asians are disgusting creatures", it doesn't mean that I feel I'm better than them. It just means that I want my kids to be of the culture I grew up with. Just because I have a preference, doesn't mean I'm a racist. Get that through your head skull. You're probably one of the most uptight of everyone where you live, you're like a 50 year old up tight mom who finds offense with the smallest shit
You: "You wouldn't date an Asian!? You're a racist jerk!"
A non uptight 50 year old mom (not you): "Everyone has their preferences"

Hunter_Steel
May 10th, 2013, 03:36 AM
Racism - Racism involves the belief in racial differences, which acts as a justification for non-equal treatment (which some regard as "discrimination") of members of that race.[11] The term is commonly used negatively and is usually associated with race-based prejudice, violence, dislike, discrimination, or oppression, the term can also have varying and contested definitions. Racialism is a related term, sometimes intended to avoid these negative meanings.

Prejudice - Wikipedia Page for Prejudice (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prejudice)

Liking on race over another in terms of sexual attraction is not racism, it might be a little prejudicial, but its not at all racism, its the fact that you yourself don't fine one race attractive, but can still be good friends with the populace of that race. Like me, I don't find black people attractive, but does that make me racist? NO
Because I have a few black friends, infact one of my family friends is a black person. I have nothing against them, I am just not sexual or romantically attracted to them.

~Hunter

JustAFool
May 10th, 2013, 01:49 PM
If two people want to be together, they should be together. That's all there is to it.

this^ sumes up my point of view on any kind of marriage/dating questions

teen.jpg
May 11th, 2013, 09:56 PM
Psst. Has he seen mixed race people? They're all so beautiful :L

StoppingTime
May 12th, 2013, 08:49 PM
You don't know what you're talking about, so leave if you're going to misquote me. Maybe you're schizophrenic and seeing words that you wanted to see me say.

Are you kidding me. You actually had to go to such a ridiculous point in a debate where you'd say something like this. You clearly know absolutely nothing about schizophrenia - at all. Of course that's not what this debate is about, but I needed to make a point about it because there are people here who are diagnosed schizophrenics, and there's no reason for you to virtually insult them like that.

Croconaw
May 12th, 2013, 09:32 PM
I don't think it really matters... In my experience, I have nevet found anyone of the opposite race attractive though.

naglfari
May 12th, 2013, 09:38 PM
I don't think it really matters... In my experience, I have nevet found anyone of the opposite race attractive though.

lol the opposite race?

Are you kidding me. You actually had to go to such a ridiculous point in a debate where you'd say something like this. You clearly know absolutely nothing about schizophrenia - at all. Of course that's not what this debate is about, but I needed to make a point about it because there are people here who are diagnosed schizophrenics, and there's no reason for you to virtually insult them like that.

you can see why I don't like this guy. everything he says is offensive.

Camazotz
May 12th, 2013, 09:49 PM
I'm not a racist jerk because I have a preference. Even others have agreed with me. So you're calling many people on here who have said that they wouldn't personally date a black persona racist jerk.

But they're not going to the extent you are. They said that they aren't sexually attracted to certain kinds of people. That's normal, that's preference.

You're saying that you would never marry a non-Italian or a non-French woman unless they were a 10/10. And that you would refuse to have a child that didn't look somewhat like you. And that you would be severely disappointed if your child fell in love with someone who was not Italian. You're trying to keep an Italian bloodline, which is so traditional and out-of-date for modern standards. Your reference to Native Americans also falls under this fallacy, although it's more understandable to most people because their culture is on the brink of destruction (and the heavy decline of their people since European/American intervention) while Italians are still going strong.

Yes, you're entitled to your opinions, but you're opening yourself up to criticism with your 1960's logic in 2013 America (where Rachael and a majority of these posters are from). This blood-racial purity idea that you have is just becoming more and more rare because of how closed-minded it sounds. Although you claim it's not for superiority reasons, it comes off that way because you "refuse" to date anyone outside your race; you defend yourself by saying that it's "preference", but it sounds like a weak argument since that's what racists have been claiming since the 50's and 60's. Our perceptions of what is and isn't racist is different, and that's all there is to it.

Cicero
May 12th, 2013, 10:16 PM
But they're not going to the extent you are. They said that they aren't sexually attracted to certain kinds of people. That's normal, that's preference.

You're saying that you would never marry a non-Italian or a non-French woman unless they were a 10/10. And that you would refuse to have a child that didn't look somewhat like you. And that you would be severely disappointed if your child fell in love with someone who was not Italian. You're trying to keep an Italian bloodline, which is so traditional and out-of-date for modern standards. Your reference to Native Americans also falls under this fallacy, although it's more understandable to most people because their culture is on the brink of destruction (and the heavy decline of their people since European/American intervention) while Italians are still going strong.

Yes, you're entitled to your opinions, but you're opening yourself up to criticism with your 1960's logic in 2013 America (where Rachael and a majority of these posters are from). This blood-racial purity idea that you have is just becoming more and more rare because of how closed-minded it sounds. Although you claim it's not for superiority reasons, it comes off that way because you "refuse" to date anyone outside your race; you defend yourself by saying that it's "preference", but it sounds like a weak argument since that's what racists have been claiming since the 50's and 60's. Our perceptions of what is and isn't racist is different, and that's all there is to it.

No, I didn't say I would refuse to have a child that didnt look like me, I said I would refuse to have a child with a certain ethnicity because it wouldn't look like me at all. That ethnicity would be Asian. If my wife were Asian, my child wouldn't look an ounce like me. I said I would be saddened if they married a non Italian. I could give a fuck if its outdated, because it'd be my family. And I want my family to be Italian.

Most Italian Americans are mixed with other races, so technically, it's not going strong. It just seems that way because a lot of people like Italian food. When someone says "I'm Italian too" I ask "how much?" And they're answer typically is "I don't know, my great grandma/grandma is full Italian" and I'm like "oh". There aren't many 50% Italians, let alone 100% Italians, not close to the amount there was in the 40s-50s

It also wouldn't have to be 10/10, it could be 9/10 or even 8/10.

lol the opposite race?



you can see why I don't like this guy. everything he says is offensive.

Opposite of white=black

It's fine, you don't have to like me, I hate you too. So... There, problem solved. Sorry I'm not like you who's "Huggies for everyone! Cause I just lovie love everyone! Yay! Fabulous! Fabulicious! Tree huggers and any other hugger unite!" I hate people who are overly loving/accepting and positive, idk why. Just a pet peeve.


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

likemike
May 12th, 2013, 10:17 PM
I see that viewpoint, I kinda agree yet disagree.

Like if I see a black guy and a white girl as a couple I think "Hmmm.", if I were to see a black guy and an Asian girl I would be like "Holy fuck!" I'm kinda used of a black guy then white girl couple, but I wouldn't be used of a black guy and Asian girl couple

When you say races, does it mean black, white, or Asian or does it mean black, English. Italian, etc.?

Cause if that's the case, I couldn't imagining marrying the soon to be predominant ethnicity (In the US). I could imagine dating them, but not having kids with them. But I want my wife to be Italian so that my kids can be at least 75% Italian and 25% English, my moms English and a bit German. Another ethnicity I would marry to would be French. Preferably Italian. Cause I want my kids to be a lot Italian (actually, Sicilian), and then my hopes for them would be to have a Sicilian spouse, so then their kids can be 85% Sicilian/Italian, and so on and so forth.

To those wondering, yes, there is a possibility I would never have kids with a woman who isn't of French or Italian Descent. But it depends, if my wife is so beautiful then I would say "Fuck the ethnicity thing" (so basically, if I know I'll never get a hotter wife in my wife I would marry her, but if I knew I would, I wouldn't).

And to those wondering the other question, yes, there are some ethnicities I would absolutely not want my kids to have kids with (hope that made sense :eek:), but those ethnicities will remain top secret, unless you would really want to know :>_>:
I mean as in skin color

i honestly dont care. However some one pointed out if she saw an Asian and black couple she'd freak out. I agree with that point since Being Black i know Most Asians dont like us. (besides japanese) Example. Koreans and Black people hate each other

Thats not true

Personal, I wouldn't go out with a black girl. Mainly because I'm just not attracted to black people. But then again, I can be a little racist at times....well.... all the time.... you're right, I'm going to hell.

I think this close minded racism might be specific to tennesse ,thats where i am

Opposite of white=black

It's fine, you don't have to like me, I hate you too. So... There, problem solved. Sorry I'm not like you who's "Huggies for everyone! Cause I just lovie love everyone! Yay! Fabulous! Fabulicious! Tree huggers and any other hugger unite!" I hate people who are overly loving/accepting and positive, idk why. Just a pet peeve.

For the record there are no black people
Only people with brown skin with varying shades of light and dark


-merged multiple posts. -Emerald Dream

naglfari
May 12th, 2013, 11:34 PM
Opposite of white=black

It's fine, you don't have to like me, I hate you too. So... There, problem solved. Sorry I'm not like you who's "Huggies for everyone! Cause I just lovie love everyone! Yay! Fabulous! Fabulicious! Tree huggers and any other hugger unite!" I hate people who are overly loving/accepting and positive, idk why. Just a pet peeve.

I treat people fairly its that simple

Horizon
May 13th, 2013, 03:31 AM
Well, I feel interracial relationships are okay. I mean, I have a small list of 'skin tones' I prefer, that actually center around darker skin tones.

But there is really nothing I can say, I mean you love who you love, you can't change it or help it.

Jean Poutine
May 13th, 2013, 11:54 AM
It also wouldn't have to be 10/10, it could be 9/10 or even 8/10.


You are not only a closet racist but also misogynous, as the only way you could seemingly tolerate a woman that isn't your ethnicity is if she were hot on a scale of 1-10, no other questions asked. I honestly hope that you never reproduce. Women aren't incubators for your dream child. What's next, you're going to stick her in your house raising your spawn and have her cook you a steak when you come back from work?

The seeming fetish you have for your own race is racism, kinda like these limp dicks going crazy for Asians. It doesn't matter what your justifications are, I'd love to see the face of the chick you're rejecting because she isn't Italian or Italian enough. You can keep telling yourself you're not a racist but truth is that you display a preference based on race and that alone, dear, is racism. Hate doesn't need to be involved. Ethnic quotas are racist, an Asian fetish is racist, and your own obsession about the purity of your bloodline is racist.

Anyone here who has said they wouldn't date xyz because of the person's skin color is wrong, period. People aren't chocolate, you don't choose a girl like you choose white, milk or black. If you do, look yourself in the mirror and re-evaluate your life, because something tells me a part of you is stuck in the kiddie pool.

Camazotz
May 13th, 2013, 04:04 PM
No, I didn't say I would refuse to have a child that didnt look like me, I said I would refuse to have a child with a certain ethnicity because it wouldn't look like me at all. That ethnicity would be Asian. If my wife were Asian, my child wouldn't look an ounce like me. I said I would be saddened if they married a non Italian. I could give a fuck if its outdated, because it'd be my family. And I want my family to be Italian.

I could give a fuck if its outdated, because it'd be my family. And I want my family to be Italian.

Well, there you go. That's why people disagree/don't like you. That's why you're being called racist. Because having a non-Italian isn't good enough for you.


Most Italian Americans are mixed with other races, so technically, it's not going strong. It just seems that way because a lot of people like Italian food. When someone says "I'm Italian too" I ask "how much?" And they're answer typically is "I don't know, my great grandma/grandma is full Italian" and I'm like "oh". There aren't many 50% Italians, let alone 100% Italians, not close to the amount there was in the 40s-50s

Italians weren't slaughtered or put onto reservations. When I said "going strong," I meant that there was still an Italian population. And an Italian-American population. There is a VERY small proportion of 25% Native American population, let alone 100%. Italian-Americans are a dime-a-dozen and have not suffered the way Native Americans have throughout America's history, which is why I think most people would agree that the preservation of the Native American culture is more important than preserving a non-dying Italian-American culture.

You are not only a closet racist but also misogynous, as the only way you could seemingly tolerate a woman that isn't your ethnicity is if she were hot on a scale of 1-10, no other questions asked. I honestly hope that you never reproduce. Women aren't incubators for your dream child. What's next, you're going to stick her in your house raising your spawn and have her cook you a steak when you come back from work?

The seeming fetish you have for your own race is racism, kinda like these limp dicks going crazy for Asians. It doesn't matter what your justifications are, I'd love to see the face of the chick you're rejecting because she isn't Italian or Italian enough. You can keep telling yourself you're not a racist but truth is that you display a preference based on race and that alone, dear, is racism. Hate doesn't need to be involved. Ethnic quotas are racist, an Asian fetish is racist, and your own obsession about the purity of your bloodline is racist.

Anyone here who has said they wouldn't date xyz because of the person's skin color is wrong, period. People aren't chocolate, you don't choose a girl like you choose white, milk or black. If you do, look yourself in the mirror and re-evaluate your life, because something tells me a part of you is stuck in the kiddie pool.

I like this guy.

Cicero
May 13th, 2013, 08:46 PM
You are not only a closet racist but also misogynous, as the only way you could seemingly tolerate a woman that isn't your ethnicity is if she were hot on a scale of 1-10, no other questions asked. I honestly hope that you never reproduce. Women aren't incubators for your dream child. What's next, you're going to stick her in your house raising your spawn and have her cook you a steak when you come back from work?

The seeming fetish you have for your own race is racism, kinda like these limp dicks going crazy for Asians. It doesn't matter what your justifications are, I'd love to see the face of the chick you're rejecting because she isn't Italian or Italian enough. You can keep telling yourself you're not a racist but truth is that you display a preference based on race and that alone, dear, is racism. Hate doesn't need to be involved. Ethnic quotas are racist, an Asian fetish is racist, and your own obsession about the purity of your bloodline is racist.

Anyone here who has said they wouldn't date xyz because of the person's skin color is wrong, period. People aren't chocolate, you don't choose a girl like you choose white, milk or black. If you do, look yourself in the mirror and re-evaluate your life, because something tells me a part of you is stuck in the kiddie pool.

I don't hate women, I respect them. There is no difference between me wanting to marry a 100% Italian wife and a Native American marrying another Native American, if its racist for me. It's racist for them. I do not have an Italian of Asian fetish, I do not know where you go that. I said either a French or Italian wife.

She wouldn't know I'd dump her for not being French or Italian. In fact, I'd probably continue dating her, I just would never marry her. I don't care about skin color, my wife could be brown or white as fuck. I don't care. Additionally, I wouldn't marry any woman just cause she's a 10/10. She'd have to have a good personality

It's not racist at all wanting to marry someone of the same ethnicity, my dad wanted to, but didnt.

kinda like these limp dicks going crazy for Asians
I don't get that^? Is it cause Asians have small "equipment" which appears limp?

randomnessqueen
May 13th, 2013, 08:51 PM
i dont see what the problem is, they just look different.
there is as much different between races as there is between neighbours, they were just raised differently and taught different traditions

Jean Poutine
May 14th, 2013, 01:53 PM
I don't hate women, I respect them. There is no difference between me wanting to marry a 100% Italian wife and a Native American marrying another Native American, if its racist for me. It's racist for them. I do not have an Italian of Asian fetish, I do not know where you go that. I said either a French or Italian wife.

First, I am at work right now so imagine the amount of drivel contained in this post needed to drive me to respond. It is considerable, and you have blown off the roof.

Yeah, it's racist for you and it's racist for them. Because they (and Jews and other insular ethnic communities) do it doesn't vindicate you. It's still a fucking shame all around. Still, would it kill you to transfer your culture, assuming you have any, to your children no matter how they look like or where their mother comes from? Do you even fluently speak Italian?

Haha, "I respect women". Yeah, all chauvinists say that, they think that women are dolls and should be protected by and provided to by the inherently stronger man. That's not respect, that's the complete opposite, that's objectification, infantilization. I allow myself to draw this conclusion as you have not even disputed what I said, which seems to be a recurrent thing with you. If you do not dispute, you admit. Those are the rules of the game.

Never said you had an Asian fetish but you do have a fetish for your own ethnicity. Still a fetish no matter how you spin it, bro.

She wouldn't know I'd dump her for not being French or Italian. In fact, I'd probably continue dating her, I just would never marry her.

What an excellent justification to be a closet racist : they won't know about it. Didn't the KKK use the same rationale for their ghost costumes?

I don't care about skin color, my wife could be brown or white as fuck. I don't care. Additionally, I wouldn't marry any woman just cause she's a 10/10. She'd have to have a good personality

Since when is racism based on skin color?

But she would have to be hot, wouldn't she? You have based your marriage criterias on only this one part for the whole topic. You wouldn't marry the sweetest girl you've ever met if she happened to be a 5? You disturb me.

It's not racist at all wanting to marry someone of the same ethnicity, my dad wanted to, but didnt.

It is racist, it is exhibiting preferences according to a completely arbitrary criterion that nobody chooses. Do you think ethnic quotas aren't racist, too? Discrimination based on race = racism, end of.

I don't get that^? Is it cause Asians have small "equipment" which appears limp?

No, it's because guys with Asian fetishes usually do because they seek a tame, submissive woman they can knock around, a perception they have gained of Asian girls by watching too much anime. I once saw a dude attempt to pick up a Chinese girl with "konnichi-wa". That was funny.

Cicero
May 14th, 2013, 05:44 PM
First, I am at work right now so imagine the amount of drivel contained in this post needed to drive me to respond. It is considerable, and you have blown off the roof.

Yeah, it's racist for you and it's racist for them. Because they (and Jews and other insular ethnic communities) do it doesn't vindicate you. It's still a fucking shame all around. Still, would it kill you to transfer your culture, assuming you have any, to your children no matter how they look like or where their mother comes from? Do you even fluently speak Italian?

Haha, "I respect women". Yeah, all chauvinists say that, they think that women are dolls and should be protected by and provided to by the inherently stronger man. That's not respect, that's the complete opposite, that's objectification, infantilization. I allow myself to draw this conclusion as you have not even disputed what I said, which seems to be a recurrent thing with you. If you do not dispute, you admit. Those are the rules of the game.

Never said you had an Asian fetish but you do have a fetish for your own ethnicity. Still a fetish no matter how you spin it, bro.



What an excellent justification to be a closet racist : they won't know about it. Didn't the KKK use the same rationale for their ghost costumes?



Since when is racism based on skin color?

But she would have to be hot, wouldn't she? You have based your marriage criterias on only this one part for the whole topic. You wouldn't marry the sweetest girl you've ever met if she happened to be a 5? You disturb me.



It is racist, it is exhibiting preferences according to a completely arbitrary criterion that nobody chooses. Do you think ethnic quotas aren't racist, too? Discrimination based on race = racism, end of.



No, it's because guys with Asian fetishes usually do because they seek a tame, submissive woman they can knock around, a perception they have gained of Asian girls by watching too much anime. I once saw a dude attempt to pick up a Chinese girl with "konnichi-wa". That was funny.

I'm not even close to your example of the Kkk. But I meant its not like I'm gonna tell her "I'm breaking up with you cause you're not Italian" I'd just say things aren't working out or something like that.

My wife wouldn't be just a doll or trophy, shed be my best friend ,lover ,etc.

I know I'm not at all alone, dating sites ask you if you to check a box of what race /ethnicity you would date. So me saying this isn't all that bad or uncommon, cause it was important enough for dating sites to add

StoppingTime
May 14th, 2013, 06:00 PM
I'm not even close to your example of the Kkk.


He wasn't saying you were the KKK or have anything to do with them. Rather, a parallel to the two situations were being drawn. The KKK wore costumes so their identities would remain secret. You're hiding what you really want from a girl you supposedly like because she isn't of the same bloodline you are (if you are).


But I meant its not like I'm gonna tell her "I'm breaking up with you cause you're not Italian" I'd just say things aren't working out or something like that.


Hark, a liar! And you say you respect women, okay. If you did, than you'd respect that she'd be okay with whatever bullshit you'd say (here's a hint, she won't be, because breaking up with someone because they aren't your ethnicity/race/whatever is in fact racist)


My wife wouldn't be just a doll or trophy, shed be my best friend ,lover ,etc.

k. Except throughout your time here you've said so many things that would prove that untrue. PM me if you want to argue all those.


I know I'm not at all alone,

Nobody said you were. That doesn't make it any less racist, though.

dating sites ask you if you to check a box of what race /ethnicity you would date.

And I'm guessing there's a 'select all' 'n/a' option on some, too.


So me saying this isn't all that bad or uncommon, cause it was important enough for dating sites to add

It may not be uncommon, but it's racist. There's simply no way of getting out of that. it. is. racist. Maybe not how the media shows racism, but still.

Sir Suomi
May 14th, 2013, 06:25 PM
I'm going to back up Cicero here. He's trying to point out the fact that he is more attracted to women of European descent, specifically Italian. He's pointed out the fact that he has no problem with interracial couples, just that he would prefer to not be involved in one over being involved with a women who is of Italian descent. There is nothing wrong with that. Hell, I'm the same way. I'd prefer to be in a relationship with another women who is white, due to the fact that it is what I am most comfortable with, but if I'd find a women who was, for example, black, and I loved her, I wouldn't let it be an issue.

And get off his ass everyone. He's made his opinion clear, there is no reason for name calling. Stopping Time, you should be ashamed of yourself. If I would be another fellow mod, I would have already closed this thread due to you and others comments about Cicero. Calling him "Racist", does nothing to further an argument, and it only is making you look like an ass. So get back on topic, or I'll find a mod to deal with this. PM me if you further wish to discuss this.

Twilly F. Sniper
May 14th, 2013, 06:27 PM
One should love who they want.

StoppingTime
May 14th, 2013, 07:09 PM
I'm going to back up Cicero here. He's trying to point out the fact that he is more attracted to women of European descent, specifically Italian. He's pointed out the fact that he has no problem with interracial couples, just that he would prefer to not be involved in one over being involved with a women who is of Italian descent. There is nothing wrong with that.

Not once in my post did I say he was in the wrong. You can look. There's just no argument to contradict the point that you wouldn't date, be with, or whatever someone because of their ethnicity, race, etc. That is racism. Is it bad? Not necessarily, no.


Hell, I'm the same way. I'd prefer to be in a relationship with another women who is white, due to the fact that it is what I am most comfortable with, but if I'd find a women who was, for example, black, and I loved her, I wouldn't let it be an issue.


And I think a lot of people (myself included, if you care) would agree.


And get off his ass everyone. He's made his opinion clear, there is no reason for name calling.

Name calling?


Stopping Time, you should be ashamed of yourself. If I would be another fellow mod, I would have already closed this thread due to you and others comments about Cicero.

Interesting, let's see why.


Calling him "Racist", does nothing to further an argument, and it only is making you look like an ass.

If I'm looking right, you're the only one who's been name calling recently. (and yes, I called him a liar, but if he's going to lie to someone about why he broke up with them, he would in fact be lying.


So get back on topic, or I'll find a mod to deal with this. PM me if you further wish to discuss this.

Thanks for reminding me, it's appreciated.

Celtic.
May 15th, 2013, 01:38 PM
wait what happened?
Cicero is a closet racist?