View Full Version : 5 year old fatally shoots 2 year old sister
Jess
May 2nd, 2013, 06:12 PM
In Kentucky, child shooting spotlights urban-rural gun debate when 5-year-old kills 2-year-old (http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/coroner-5-year-old-boy-shoots-2-year-old-sister-in-kentucky-with-rifle-he-got-as-a-gift/2013/05/01/7987da80-b2d5-11e2-9fb1-62de9581c946_story.html)
As Stephanie Sparks cleaned the kitchen, her 5-year-old son, Kristian, began playing with a rifle he was given last year. She stepped out onto the front porch, poured grease out of a frying pan for the dogs and “heard the gun go off,” a Kentucky coroner said.
Authorities said the boy had fatally shot his 2-year-old sister, Caroline, in the chest.
In rural southern Kentucky, far removed from the national debate over gun control, where some children get their first guns even before they start first grade, the accident stunned the community.
Kristian’s rifle was kept in a corner of the mobile home, and the family didn’t realize a bullet had been left in it, Cumberland County Coroner Gary White said.
“Down in Kentucky where we’re from, you know, guns are passed down from generation to generation,” White said. “You start at a young age with guns for hunting and everything.”
What is more unusual than a child having a gun, he said, is “that a kid would get shot with it.”
In this case, the rifle was made by a company that sells guns specifically for children — “My first rifle” is the slogan — in colors ranging from plain brown to hot pink to royal blue to multi-color swirls.
“It’s a normal way of life, and it’s not just rural Kentucky, it’s rural America — hunting and shooting and sport fishing. It starts at an early age,” Cumberland County Judge Executive John Phelps said. “There’s probably not a household in this county that doesn’t have a gun.”
In Cumberland County, as elsewhere in Kentucky, local newspapers feature photos of children proudly displaying their kills, including turkey and deer. Even one of the latest reality shows on CMT, “Guntucky,” features a family-owned gun range in Kentucky. The range, Knob Creek, says on its website that it is as a safe place for youngsters to learn about firearms and offers family memberships.
Ruby Wright, who teaches hunter safety classes in Burkesville, said children younger than 9 can sit in, but they can’t get certification. She also coaches 4-H shooting sports, requiring those children to be 9 as well.
Phelps, who is much like a mayor in these parts, said it had been four or five years since there had been a shooting death in the county, which lies along the Cumberland River near the Tennessee state line.
“The whole town is heartbroken,” Phelps said of Burkesville, a farming community of 1,800 about 90 miles northeast of Nashville, Tenn. “This was a total shock. This was totally unexpected.”
Phelps said he knew the family well. He said the father, Chris Sparks, works as a logger at a mill and also shoes horses.
The family lives in a gray mobile home on a long, winding road, surrounded by rolling hills and farmland that’s been in the family since the 1930s. Toys, including a small truck and a basketball goal, were on the front porch, but no one was home Wednesday.
There’s a house across the street, but the next-closest neighbor lives over a hill.
Family friend Logan Wells said he received a frantic call telling him that the little girl was in an accident and to come quickly.
BebeFleur.
May 2nd, 2013, 06:19 PM
Oh my god. That poor little girl. *sigh* People need to be more careful with their children and about their guns.
Atonement
May 2nd, 2013, 06:29 PM
I feel like the following quote sums up my feelings about this pretty well. Why the hell does a company market to children? We don't let alcohol, tobacco, etc. market to children. Why firearms? In this case, the rifle was made by a company that sells guns specifically for children — “My first rifle” is the slogan — in colors ranging from plain brown to hot pink to royal blue to multi-color swirls.
LouBerry
May 2nd, 2013, 06:54 PM
I feel like the following quote sums up my feelings about this pretty well. Why the hell does a company market to children? We don't let alcohol, tobacco, etc. market to children. Why firearms?
Well, I imagine it seems a bit barbaric to some, but that's how we live. We come from people like my granddad, who remembers having to go hunt with is daddy to put food on the table. Sure times have changed, but it's really an important part of our heritage. Of who we are. I mean, I'm not the typical Arkansas Bumpkin myself, but I got my first 22 before I started Pre-K. I have a riffle in my closet. I don't use it, unless a friends wants to borrow it or something, but I've always know, you don't play around with guns. You point 'em at the sky or the ground, never at yourself or anyone else. Even if you know the gun aint loaded, you best be careful anyways. Accidents happen. It's a tragedy when something like this happens, but it's no different then a child running out in front of a car, or getting injured playing on something they shouldn't be. You can't always keep an eye out for them.
Inventor2
May 2nd, 2013, 07:44 PM
I feel like the following quote sums up my feelings about this pretty well. Why the hell does a company market to children? We don't let alcohol, tobacco, etc. market to children. Why firearms?
Although the company can advertise to children, as much as a child wants the firearm they cant have one with ought their parents buying it first. So it doesn't really matter what age they market to, bottom line is it's an age restricted item and it was the parents fault for leaving it out, Not the company's. And yes alcohol and tobacco companies do market to the teenage market. Go look at a Newport add and tell me that doesn't target teens.
Foamy
May 2nd, 2013, 09:16 PM
While the companies are marketing the guns for children, those same children are killing others. Obviously not on purpose, but things need to change. While it is also their mid-south-western area's tradition, the guns that are needed for hunting should be the only guns allowed. And children should not have access to the until they are hunting food on their own. I feel bad for the family, but things gotta change at least a little.
LouBerry
May 2nd, 2013, 09:36 PM
While the companies are marketing the guns for children, those same children are killing others. Obviously not on purpose, but things need to change. While it is also their mid-south-western area's tradition, the guns that are needed for hunting should be the only guns allowed. And children should not have access to the until they are hunting food on their own. I feel bad for the family, but things gotta change at least a little.
Well, I see nothing wrong with the current bill floating around about background checks and banning assault riffles, because why do you really need one, but the thing is, my Daddy has a little pistol that he hides under his bed, just in case. Now, when I was three, what if I had accidentally shot myself with it, because I snuck into my Dads room with he was washing the dishes? You can't take away the peoples right to arms. He has the right to protect himself, and to have a weapon to hunt. It's not the guns fault that I was a nosy three year old, nor is it my dads, cause I mean, kids are tricky little buggers, just can't keep an eye on them all the time.
Now, I'm not trying to be sarcastic, so don't take it that way, but I think it was in early April some body went into a college in Texas and stabbed 14 people. Fourteen. He started with a knife, but if I remember correctly, the last few were stabbed with a pen.
According to this, we should ban all knifes that are not used for cooking purposes right? Like all those fancy pocket knifes and cardboard openers and stuff. And we need ban all pens besides the ones that they give prisoners that you can't stab someone to death with.
That's a big ridicules right? You probably use a pen everyday and never think about stabbing someone in the throat with it.
johnsmith1
May 3rd, 2013, 05:18 AM
I may be the first from the UK to comment here. First off I will say that this is tragic, and the 5 year old will have to live with what happened.
We seem to see so many stories of mass shootings over here from stories in the US, and I don't know if this story is common, and just doesn't make it away from local news normally. The gun laws over here are way tougher than the US, that even some police don't always carry guns.
After a recent school shooting in the US (that sparked off the recent gun debate), a Brittish celebrity (in the US at the time) used the first ammendment (Free speech) to say that the 2nd ammendment (freedom to bear arms - have guns effectively) was stupid, and a number of Americans wanted him chucked out of the country, and I have to say I tend to agree with him (even though the star in question is an idiot!).
Are the Brittish and American culture so different on this topic?
All The Small Things
May 3rd, 2013, 06:19 AM
who the fuck buys a 5 year old a fucken gun im all for the right to bear arms but thease parnets should be trown in jail for life
gothicsanctum
May 3rd, 2013, 01:36 PM
From What ive Gathered The gun was left in a Open area where the child could play with it at any time, and that they hadnt bothered to empty the chamber after they used it. None of the guns in the house that i live in keep a round chambered.
Sounds like the parents didnt take gun safety 101. and yes the death of a 2 year old is sad, but if Fienstien decides to use this as another leverage i swear to god.
Professional Russian
May 5th, 2013, 12:02 PM
From What ive Gathered The gun was left in a Open area where the child could play with it at any time, and that they hadnt bothered to empty the chamber after they used it. None of the guns in the house that i live in keep a round chambered.
Sounds like the parents didnt take gun safety 101. and yes the death of a 2 year old is sad, but if Fienstien decides to use this as another leverage i swear to god.
What she gonna use it for? "A child killed another child because uh.....uh... Let's ban guns they're bad"
Plane And Simple
May 5th, 2013, 03:22 PM
Well, I imagine it seems a bit barbaric to some, but that's how we live. We come from people like my granddad, who remembers having to go hunt with is daddy to put food on the table. Sure times have changed, but it's really an important part of our heritage. Of who we are. I mean, I'm not the typical Arkansas Bumpkin myself, but I got my first 22 before I started Pre-K. I have a riffle in my closet. I don't use it, unless a friends wants to borrow it or something, but I've always know, you don't play around with guns. You point 'em at the sky or the ground, never at yourself or anyone else. Even if you know the gun aint loaded, you best be careful anyways. Accidents happen. It's a tragedy when something like this happens, but it's no different then a child running out in front of a car, or getting injured playing on something they shouldn't be. You can't always keep an eye out for them.
I can understand your point. And i can understand you give a gun to a 10 year old to a certain extent but to a 5 year old? As much as I love America, changes need to happen...
LouBerry
May 6th, 2013, 04:04 PM
^Agreed, but pissing off Americas hillbillys isn't the answer. Gun control laws won't make pshycos stop killing people, and that poor child wouldn't be dead if his mother had put the gun up.
Harry Smith
May 6th, 2013, 04:09 PM
And yet America refuse to have any sort of limit on firearms.
How many more have to die?
SkatingHero
May 14th, 2013, 04:38 PM
*cough* moron *cough* *cough*
Silicate Wielder
May 14th, 2013, 06:30 PM
This is why you don't a 5-year-old a freaking gun, and let him/her play with it at home.
Sugaree
May 15th, 2013, 01:08 AM
I feel like the following quote sums up my feelings about this pretty well. Why the hell does a company market to children? We don't let alcohol, tobacco, etc. market to children. Why firearms?
Because alcohol and tobacco aren't constitutional "rights".
Twilly F. Sniper
May 18th, 2013, 06:45 PM
and kids, thats why you dont play with guns. Their purpose is to harm.
Jess
May 18th, 2013, 09:38 PM
This is why you don't a 5-year-old a freaking gun, and let him/her play with it at home.
Exactly. I admit I was pretty shocked there was a company that made guns for children...
Infidelitas
May 19th, 2013, 03:31 AM
You don't necessarily need to ban guns, you just have to take precautions to make sure accidents don't happen. At least make sure you remove all ammunition and take the bolt out and keep it separate. Or even use a gun safe.
Lofiel
May 19th, 2013, 04:47 AM
Teaching your child to use a gun? That is perfectly okay.
Leaving a 5 and 2 year old with a loaded gun unattended? Horrible parenting that will result in the death of all children involved sooner or later.
I am all for gun use, but not irresponsible gun use and bad parenting.
Hunter_Steel
May 19th, 2013, 09:19 AM
I was trained to use guns, and how to use them appropriately and how to safely store them and to ALWAYS KEEP GUNS AWAY FROM CHILDREN UNDER 13 YEARS OF AGE. First gun I ever shot with was a Paint Ball Gun, second gun was a .22, and a .22 Rifle, last gun was a 12 Gauge Shotgun. But that was when I was lie 14 for the real firearms.
My children will never use a real firearm till they are the same age I was when I first used a real firearm, they can handle an unloaded one, and a paintball gun from the age of 10 - 14, from there on I will teach them to use real firearms. But, I would never let them use it freely until they are old enough to be responsible.
This is just ridiculous -_-
~Hunter
HuntedDom
May 19th, 2013, 12:03 PM
And yet America refuse to have any sort of limit on firearms.
How many more have to die?
As tragic as this is, gun aren't the problem. It's the idiots that own them.
This gun never should have been left in reach of children, be it their gun or not, let alone loaded.
Hopefully I never have kids, but if I did, would I buy a five year old a gun? No. Granted it's a lot harder to get guns in Canada then in the US, the whole idea doesn't make sense to me. I hardly doubt you'd get a company that markets guns for children - but, guns are only as bad as the hands that hold them.
Harry Smith
May 19th, 2013, 12:12 PM
As tragic as this is, gun aren't the problem. It's the idiots that own them.
This gun never should have been left in reach of children, be it their gun or not, let alone loaded.
Hopefully I never have kids, but if I did, would I buy a five year old a gun? No. Granted it's a lot harder to get guns in Canada then in the US, the whole idea doesn't make sense to me. I hardly doubt you'd get a company that markets guns for children - but, guns are only as bad as the hands that hold them.
if you removed guns this story would not of happened would it?
HuntedDom
May 19th, 2013, 12:19 PM
if you removed guns this story would not of happened would it?
If you removed the idiotic mother who left a loaded gun lying around in reach of children it wouldn't have happened, would it?
It can go either way. Guns are inanimate objects - they aren't good or bad. Only so as the hand that holds them. Cars aren't bad either, but they can be killer in the hands of a drunk driver. Do we ban cars because people drive drunk?
Harry Smith
May 19th, 2013, 12:33 PM
If you removed the idiotic mother who left a loaded gun lying around in reach of children it wouldn't have happened, would it?
It can go either way. Guns are inanimate objects - they aren't good or bad. Only so as the hand that holds them. Cars aren't bad either, but they can be killer in the hands of a drunk driver. Do we ban cars because people drive drunk?
what is the purpose of a gun?
HuntedDom
May 19th, 2013, 12:43 PM
what is the purpose of a gun?
Primairly? Self defense.
But like a lot of things - prescription drugs, knifes - get abused because humans are violent by nature.
Harry Smith
May 19th, 2013, 12:50 PM
Primairly? Self defense.
But like a lot of things - prescription drugs, knifes - get abused because humans are violent by nature.
Nope, the purpose of a gun is to wage destruction, hence why armies use it. They were designed to kill, where they not?
HuntedDom
May 19th, 2013, 12:54 PM
Nope, the purpose of a gun is to wage destruction, hence why armies use it. They were designed to kill, where they not?
I can't argue they are not a weapon - I just don't think banning them is the answer.
Now, if we could ban stupidity, we'd be laughing... Unfortunately, there is no law against being stupid.
Sir Suomi
May 20th, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jesus. This is completely the parents's faults. Now I know, this must be tragic for them. And they're in my prayers. But still, why in God's name would you not at least make sure the rifle is unloaded before having it sit around the house, which is also another terrible idea! If you have a firearm, and you have children, you better make sure you've got a secure, locked up place to store them in, along with the ammunition being way out of their reach.
Infidelitas
May 20th, 2013, 10:39 AM
Nope, the purpose of a gun is to wage destruction, hence why armies use it. They were designed to kill, where they not?
Not everyone uses guns inappropriately. For example, I use guns to euthanise sick and injured animals.
Why shouldn't I be able to use a tool in aide of helping a suffering animal? Not everyone has bad intentions by owning a gun. The gun just doesn't kill something just by laying around not being touched by anything. It is the person who picks the gun up that should be to blame.
Magus
May 20th, 2013, 11:43 AM
Not everyone uses guns inappropriately. For example, I use guns to euthanise sick and injured animals.
Why shouldn't I be able to use a tool in aide of helping a suffering animal? Not everyone has bad intentions by owning a gun. The gun just doesn't kill something just by laying around not being touched by anything. It is the person who picks the gun up that should be to blame.
Does gun bring you from one location to another in short amount of time? It doesn't.
What it does is take you from one plane of existence to another. That's what it do basically do.
Whether you have the intention or not, guns are lethal objects capable of incapacitating anyone unlucky that happens to tread in its trajectory.
Never mind that their access will psychologically ease the perpetrator into committing murder or suicide.
HuntedDom
May 20th, 2013, 01:22 PM
Does gun bring you from one location to another in short amount of time? It doesn't.
What it does is take you from one plane of existence to another. That's what it do basically do.
Whether you have the intention or not, guns are lethal objects capable of incapacitating anyone unlucky that happens to tread in its trajectory.
Never mind that their access will psychologically ease the perpetrator into committing murder or suicide.
Yes, they are. So are people trained in Martial Arts - they can kill you with a finger if they wanted. Knifes. Vehicles. Ropes. Baseball bats.
Do we ban them all?
Magus
May 20th, 2013, 01:45 PM
Yes, they are.
Yes they are what?
So are people trained in Martial Arts - they can kill you with a finger if they wanted.Sure. That's cool.
Knifes. Vehicles. Ropes. Baseball bats.
Do we ban them all?
Why would you ban a kitchen utensil, a transportation method, a tightening object and a sport item?
Is there a point you are trying to make?
HuntedDom
May 20th, 2013, 01:49 PM
Weapons. Every one of those things has been used to kill either someone else or themselves.
I don't see the point in banning inanimate objects that have no mind of their own. It is all how the human decides to use it.
Magus
May 20th, 2013, 01:51 PM
Weapons. Every one of those things has been used to kill either someone else or themselves.
I don't see the point in banning inanimate objects that have no mind of their own. It is all how the human decides to use it.
Ahem, but these objects serve other purposes. But guns, do not.
HuntedDom
May 20th, 2013, 02:22 PM
Ahem, but these objects serve other purposes. But guns, do not.
And then what is next? How much right and control do we give away?
I love North America because it is a relatively free land - I would hate to see us end up like North Korea.
Sir Suomi
May 20th, 2013, 02:38 PM
if you removed guns this story would not of happened would it?
And what if it had been a knife? Would you be screaming in outrage over that?
Point here is that a innocent life was loss, due to the parents's irresponsibility with handling firearms. Although this is tragic, it's not a reason to put a ban on firearms, even though it would never happen.
Harry Smith
May 20th, 2013, 06:51 PM
And what if it had been a knife? Would you be screaming in outrage over that?
Point here is that a innocent life was loss, due to the parents's irresponsibility with handling firearms. Although this is tragic, it's not a reason to put a ban on firearms, even though it would never happen.
Say if a man killed his family after his wife left him, he had no mental illness or history of violence but he used a gun,I bet you would say that Guns should still be allowed. How many more will have to die?
Not everyone uses guns inappropriately. For example, I use guns to euthanise sick and injured animals.
Why shouldn't I be able to use a tool in aide of helping a suffering animal? Not everyone has bad intentions by owning a gun. The gun just doesn't kill something just by laying around not being touched by anything. It is the person who picks the gun up that should be to blame.
ahah everyone loves the angel of the Death. The purpose of a gun is to shoot something very fast which will kill the target.
If there was a blanket ban on guns this girl would still be alive, would she not?
Please actually answer, if there were no guns present in America then this specific girl would have lived. Is this statement wrong?
Please use the multi-quote or edit buttons instead of double posting. ~TheMatrix
Professional Russian
May 20th, 2013, 07:15 PM
Say if a man killed his family after his wife left him, he had no mental illness or history of violence but he used a gun,I bet you would say that Guns should still be allowed. How many more will have to die?
Stop saying "How many more have to die?" You make like death is a bad thing. The see shooters are actually doing us a favor. The population is getting to big. We need to even it out. So death is a good thing....now all we have to do I start shooting prisoners that are in life then we'll be getting somewhere.
Infidelitas
May 20th, 2013, 07:37 PM
ahah everyone loves the angel of the Death. The purpose of a gun is to shoot something very fast which will kill the target.
If there was a blanket ban on guns this girl would still be alive, would she not?
Please actually answer, if there were no guns present in America then this specific girl would have lived. Is this statement wrong?
Meth is illegal, yet people still use it and have a way of finding it.
If you ban guns, people are only going to find ways to get them and the only difference it makes is that they have to do it illegally.
If there were no guns, this might of happened with a bow and arrow, then you're back at square one.
I HATE euthanising animals! You're fucked if you think I get enjoyment out of doing it. I actually hate guns, but I see it as a tool to humanly euthanise wildlife without having it die in pain.
If guns were banned, that family still might have it illegally, and the same accident may have happened. People need to take precautions and make sure they keep it locked up away from children. They make gun safes for a reason. Remove the firing pin or bolt, remove the amunition and hide that fucker separately from all the amunition etc.
StoppingTime
May 20th, 2013, 07:43 PM
And what if it had been a knife? Would you be screaming in outrage over that?
I don't understand the "what if" argument. The fact is that she was killed with a gun so it doesn't matter what "would have happened" if there was no gun. That argument proves nothing. It was a gun that killed someone. Guns are designed as a lethal weapon. Those aren't really arguable statements.
Point here is that a innocent life was loss, due to the parents's irresponsibility with handling firearms. Although this is tragic, it's not a reason to put a ban on firearms, even though it would never happen.
I don't think anyone is requesting to ban all firearms?
Stop saying "How many more have to die?" You make like death is a bad thing. The see shooters are actually doing us a favor. The population is getting to big. We need to even it out. So death is a good thing....now all we have to do I start shooting prisoners that are in life then we'll be getting somewhere.
Bert seriously... In this case that argument has no place, and to be honest no place anywhere. She was two.
Anyway, this is becoming a debate (what a surprise) :arrow: ROTW
Sir Suomi
May 20th, 2013, 08:28 PM
Oh really? Try reading a little bit more next time.
[QUOTE=Harry Smith;2283852]ahah everyone loves the angel of the Death. The purpose of a gun is to shoot something very fast which will kill the target.
If there was a blanket ban on guns this girl would still be alive, would she not?
Please actually answer, if there were no guns present in America then this specific girl would have lived. Is this statement wrong?
Stephan
May 20th, 2013, 09:44 PM
Yep..definitely remember reading this article..like I mentioned in the gun control thread..I believe guns should be treated more as a privilege than as a right that can be constituted to everyone/ anyone.
Magus
May 20th, 2013, 11:49 PM
And then what is next? How much right and control do we give away?
I love North America because it is a relatively free land - I would hate to see us end up like North Korea.
Ever heard of Australia? They have some strict gun control, despite it being 1/3 wilderness(hunting ground in your dialect). We don't see it as North Korea.
Trenton_
May 22nd, 2013, 11:27 AM
not very responsible to give 5 year old a gun. Something bad will eventually happen. Accident waiting to happen.
randomnessqueen
May 22nd, 2013, 01:08 PM
i think such violent sports shouldnt be available to children.
ive known kids to get a gun as young as three. and no matter how 'normal' a thing it is, no toddler is an expert of gun safety. so dont even give them a chance.
Professional Russian
May 22nd, 2013, 01:11 PM
i think such violent sports shouldnt be available to children.
ive known kids to get a gun as young as three. and no matter how 'normal' a thing it is, no toddler is an expert of gun safety. so dont even give them a chance.
What's violent about shooting at a target? I've been doing it for years.
randomnessqueen
May 22nd, 2013, 01:15 PM
What's violent about shooting at a target? I've been doing it for years.
its guns that are violent.
and im not saying noone should do it, once youre an adult you can choose to shoot for sport. im saying not for children.
Professional Russian
May 22nd, 2013, 01:17 PM
its guns that are violent.
and im not saying noone should do it, once youre an adult you can choose to shoot for sport. im saying not for children.
How are you going to regulate that? We can't regulate people buying runs. Before you say we can I'm under 18 and have a shit ton of guns.
randomnessqueen
May 22nd, 2013, 01:23 PM
How are you going to regulate that? We can't regulate people buying runs. Before you say we can I'm under 18 and have a shit ton of guns.
all the legal system can do is put an age limit on it.
sure that wont stop certain families just buying one and giving it to a kid, but then its their own fault when somebody dies. its parents that need to become more responsible.
Professional Russian
May 22nd, 2013, 02:49 PM
all the legal system can do is put an age limit on it.
sure that wont stop certain families just buying one and giving it to a kid, but then its their own fault when somebody dies. its parents that need to become more responsible.
That's already what they do though......
Harry Smith
May 22nd, 2013, 02:53 PM
That's already what they do though......
I understand people can obtain them illegally, shall we make child porn legal then?
Professional Russian
May 22nd, 2013, 03:49 PM
I understand people can obtain them illegally, shall we make child porn legal then?
Do you want the hormonal teenager answer or the morally correct answer.
Harry Smith
May 22nd, 2013, 04:58 PM
Do you want the hormonal teenager answer or the morally correct answer.
I want your answer, because the whole 'contraband' argument is stupid. Yes criminals can get there hands on it if they really want to but restrictions help make that a lot harder
Professional Russian
May 22nd, 2013, 05:55 PM
I want your answer, because the whole 'contraband' argument is stupid. Yes criminals can get there hands on it if they really want to but restrictions help make that a lot harder
My answer. Yes it should he legal. why? Its tour decision to send those pictures. If you want to do it. Go do it. If you don't. Don't do it.
pimpin aint easy
May 22nd, 2013, 06:37 PM
I think its just tradition and a tragedy that the bullet was left in
but that shows the parents must take some precautions
like CHECK FOR A BULLET
Harry Smith
May 23rd, 2013, 03:29 AM
I think its just tradition and a tragedy that the bullet was left in
but that shows the parents must take some precautions
like CHECK FOR A BULLET
the rule of firearms is always assume that the Gun is loaded, even if you remove the magazine you should still act that the gun is loaded.
Professional Russian
May 23rd, 2013, 05:28 AM
the rule of firearms is always assume that the Gun is loaded, even if you remove the magazine you should still act that the gun is loaded.
Yeah you should also respect it too. Point in a safe direction. Make sure slide,bolt, cylinder are open for inspection. The list goes on and on.
Harry Smith
May 23rd, 2013, 05:40 AM
Yeah you should also respect it too. Point in a safe direction. Make sure slide,bolt, cylinder are open for inspection. The list goes on and on.
and the problem is that even experienced owners don't follow these rules, I knew someone who lost an eye in Northen Ireland trying to prove he could clean his Browning Hi power in under 45 seconds.
Professional Russian
May 23rd, 2013, 05:45 AM
and the problem is that even experienced owners don't follow these rules, I knew someone who lost an eye in Northen Ireland trying to prove he could clean his Browning Hi power in under 45 seconds.
What dumb fuck leaves the gun loaded when your cleaning? Christ people are stupid.
teen.jpg
May 23rd, 2013, 04:19 PM
I feel like crying right now. What in the actual fuck were these two morons (aka parents) thinking buying a gun for a 5 year old.
Harry Smith
May 25th, 2013, 09:04 AM
What dumb fuck leaves the gun loaded when your cleaning? Christ people are stupid.
A dumb Fuck who served 12 years in the Paras, there was a round in the chamber
Stronk Serb
May 25th, 2013, 10:03 AM
A dumb Fuck who served 12 years in the Paras, there was a round in the chamber
At least he is still alive. Although he should've been more careful and emptied the barrel.
Professional Russian
May 27th, 2013, 01:43 PM
A dumb Fuck who served 12 years in the Paras, there was a round in the chamber
I don't give a fuck what you were in. If you don't rack the slide to make sure there isn't a round in the chamber your an idiot.
britishboy
May 27th, 2013, 01:55 PM
I don't give a fuck what you were in. If you don't rack the slide to make sure there isn't a round in the chamber your an idiot.
ive never fired a gun (im a brit:p) but even I know, cheek cheek and double cheek for a bullet
Professional Russian
May 27th, 2013, 02:27 PM
ive never fired a gun (im a brit:p) but even I know, cheek cheek and double cheek for a bullet
I do it once. Lock the slide. Visually check and disassemble.
britishboy
May 27th, 2013, 02:33 PM
I do it once. Lock the slide. Visually check and disassemble.
well as I said ive never fired a gun but your American so I trust you haha you Americans are the daddys of gun ownership:p
Professional Russian
May 27th, 2013, 03:09 PM
well as I said ive never fired a gun but your American so I trust you haha you Americans are the daddys of gun ownership:p
Don't trust me. I'm one of the most unsafe people on earth. Do what you do and you'll be fine. I do what I do because I'm used to it.
britishboy
May 27th, 2013, 03:13 PM
Don't trust me. I'm one of the most unsafe people on earth. Do what you do and you'll be fine. I do what I do because I'm used to it.
ok haha:p
Stronk Serb
May 27th, 2013, 05:24 PM
I will join the army.
Ok back on topic, what the fuck? Who gives an immature irresponsible untrained child a rifle? That is worse then soldiers playing hot potatoes with a live grenade. At least they know that they might die. I would like the parents behind bars.
fatbro
May 28th, 2013, 01:40 PM
"ban guns because my feelings are hurt! think of the CHILDREN!"
britishboy
May 28th, 2013, 01:48 PM
"ban guns because my feelings are hurt! think of the CHILDREN!"
I dont see your point?
Skyline
May 28th, 2013, 06:40 PM
OP request :locked2:
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