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britishboy
April 30th, 2013, 02:09 PM
well people were arguing about this in another thread so I thought I would make a new thread for it

Harry Smith
April 30th, 2013, 02:11 PM
YES it is

Jess
April 30th, 2013, 02:11 PM
Of course it is.

ItsJustJack
April 30th, 2013, 02:16 PM
Well its natural and of course its ok

Iron Man
April 30th, 2013, 02:22 PM
Well, seeing as being gay isn't like a localized incident in some foreign country with an unpronouncable name, I would say that it is natural. I laugh at those that say it isn't. Seriously people, it happens every day. You have to be brain dead to label that as unnatural.

Fiction
April 30th, 2013, 02:26 PM
Like the above said, it happens everywhere and throughout history. Even if it wasn't natural would it matter? It doesn't harm anyone so live and let live.

RedViper
April 30th, 2013, 02:49 PM
Most certainly is.

Elysium
April 30th, 2013, 03:11 PM
Yes, it's natural, and yes, it's okay.

Erasmus
April 30th, 2013, 03:11 PM
Of course it is, this shouldn't even be a debate.

Ace of Spades
April 30th, 2013, 03:20 PM
100% natural. 100% ok.

Donkey
April 30th, 2013, 03:24 PM
No one is really providing any evidence to support their views here, I don't like to see that this forum is intellectually regressive. Perhaps the OP's question poses whether homosexuality may be more due to environmental or genetic factors, however this is strangely proposed as both could indeed be deemed 'natural'. I fail to see any way in which human sexuality could be seen as 'unnatural' on the basis that it is an instinctive desire, and hence would ask the OP to clarify the purpose of his question.

PinkFloyd
April 30th, 2013, 03:27 PM
It's Okay to be any sexual orientation without a doubt. In my opinion it is natural for some people. I mean you don't just say "I want to be gay, straight, bi, whatever today!" It's just who you are.

comical
April 30th, 2013, 03:44 PM
Even as a Christian I believe that it's natural and okay. Maybe my Christian views let me see how some can say it's not ok, but my Christian morals tell me not to judge someone.

Troy35216
April 30th, 2013, 03:50 PM
"Natural" Adjective --Existing in nature; not made or caused by humankind.

Homosexuality occurs in Nature. There are hundreds of documented cases of animals engaging in gay sex. Therefore by definition Homosexuality is Natural.

Left Now
April 30th, 2013, 03:53 PM
Unnatural...Sex is for completing not just satisfy a person from love and gay won't complete anything.

Jess
April 30th, 2013, 03:56 PM
Unnatural...Sex is for completing not just satisfy a person from love and gay won't complete anything.

So what? It doesn't have to involve having children. By your logic, people that can't and don't want children are unnatural.

Left Now
April 30th, 2013, 04:01 PM
Their bodies are or will be not themselves.Also it is a telling opinion thread not a place for argument,so PM me.and go on.

Jess
April 30th, 2013, 04:02 PM
Also it is a telling opinion thread not a place for argument,so PM me.and go on.

ROTW (Ramblings of the Wise) is for DEBATES

Their bodies are or will be not themselves.

Where's the evidence/How do you know that they will not be "themselves"?

Left Now
April 30th, 2013, 04:13 PM
Because it is something which is related to the body,however it can change themselves too if it last for too long!
It is unnatural but it is okay until it is just between the guys and not declared in the public.

Stronk Serb
April 30th, 2013, 04:15 PM
I dun really care. It is not the sexuality that defines a whole man.

drew6
April 30th, 2013, 04:47 PM
I don't think most people would choose to be gay, so it's just they way they are and if that's the way they are, it's as natural as anything else that occurs in nature. Like someone being 6'9" tall. Not a lot of people that tall, but it's just part range of things people can be. I happen to be straight and close to 6' tall. I don't dislike gay people or really tall people. Why would I?

So it's not only natural, it's completely okay. Imagine how boring life would be if we all looked and thought the same.

Harry Smith
April 30th, 2013, 04:53 PM
I don't think most people would choose to be gay, so it's just they way they are and if that's the way they are, it's as natural as anything else that occurs in nature. Like someone being 6'9" tall. Not a lot of people that tall, but it's just part range of things people can be. I happen to be straight and close to 6' tall. I don't dislike gay people or really tall people. Why would I?

So it's not only natural, it's completely okay. Imagine how boring life would be if we all looked and thought the same.

This pretty much sums it up nicely, it's just part of the range. I'm proud of the fact that I'm gay

Because it is something which is related to the body,however it can change themselves too if it last for too long!
It is unnatural but it is okay until it is just between the guys and not declared in the public.

why... in the west it's perfectly fine for it to be declared in public, we don't live in the 1940's anymore

Troy35216
April 30th, 2013, 05:06 PM
i still say i don't understand how you can say that something that occurs in Nature isn't Natural. that's like saying that something that is burning isn't flammable. what DOESN'T occur in Nature is homophobia. and i don't know what you mean when you say being gay isn't complete. do their legs stop at the knees or something?

Celtic.
April 30th, 2013, 05:45 PM
what do you mean by natural? By natural do you mean being born gay? nope. otherwise yea its natural and its ok to me.

workingatperfect
April 30th, 2013, 09:09 PM
I think it's natural and don't really see how it can be seen as unnatural. It occurs in nature. Animals do it. In fact, I have seven cats and even they try it haha. Not just the boys either, I've seen one of the females humping another girl. And it's not, in my opinion, a matter of "nurture" - meaning it's nature. I kind of get the reproduction thing, but it doesn't necessarily make it unnatural just because that's the main function of sex. The fact is, it wasn't created by humankind, it occurs in nature, therefore it's natural.

Bethany
April 30th, 2013, 09:16 PM
It's definitely natural. Considering people from cultures all over the world are homosexual, it seems extraordinarily unlikely that homosexuality is a result of a specific environmental influence. Therefore, it's likely that it's innate.

And...as an LGBT person I have to say...I definitely didn't choose this. To the people who think homosexuality is a choice: when did you choose to be straight?

Pure Innocent Nun
April 30th, 2013, 09:24 PM
It is very natural :]

dusman77
April 30th, 2013, 10:18 PM
It absolutely is. It's natural and unchangeable, it's not like you're just going to be born "wrong". It has to be ok.

IAMWILL
April 30th, 2013, 10:34 PM
According to the American Psychological Association and the American Medical Association:

APA:
There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.

AMA: had it but can't find it, will edit in in a sec.

I agree with there statements. And of course being gay is okay.

As a side note: Some people on here keep saying, "Well I'm Christian, but I don't hate gays" like all Christianity hates homosexuals. That is completely contrary to 99% of the teachings of every Christian sect.

likemike
April 30th, 2013, 11:55 PM
The way i see it, the more gay guys the more girls for me

Sugaree
May 1st, 2013, 12:41 AM
No one is really providing any evidence to support their views here, I don't like to see that this forum is intellectually regressive.

That's how it is in ROTW. Keep saying the same thing until everyone believes it. It's the hivemind that keeps this happy train moving along.

Twilly F. Sniper
May 2nd, 2013, 08:33 PM
Yes to both. I should know.

If it were a choice, I wouldn't choose to torture myself.

xmojox
May 2nd, 2013, 11:59 PM
Because it is something which is related to the body,however it can change themselves too if it last for too long!
It is unnatural but it is okay until it is just between the guys and not declared in the public.

I don't understand what you mean. Would you please clarify?

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 12:27 AM
By Unnatural i mean the marriage is for completing the human while gay marriage doesn't do this and just can provide something like "Love" for partners.
And by ok but not in Public i mean if they really want to be gay it is okay for me but i plead them just not declare it in public.

xmojox
May 3rd, 2013, 12:41 AM
By Unnatural i mean the marriage is for completing the human while gay marriage doesn't do this and just can provide something like "Love" for partners.
And by ok but not in Public i mean if they really want to be gay it is okay for me but i plead them just not declare it in public.

By completing the human do you mean reproducing?

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 12:52 AM
Partly yes.And also completing the personalities of that couple.

xmojox
May 3rd, 2013, 04:24 AM
Partly yes.And also completing the personalities of that couple.

There are heterosexual couples who, for one reason or another, can't reproduce. Would you classify them as unnatural? As far as completing the personality, that's just love, and gender isn't important to love. In my country, it used to be unnatural for people of different races to marry. Now, bi-racial couples are so commonplace that most people don't even notice. My point is, that love can transcend race, gender, or any other obstacle.

As to keeping it secret as opposed to out in the open: why? People want equality and acceptance so they don't need to do that. This is 2013, shouldn't we be beyond all the inequality?

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 04:37 AM
Those couples are not unnatural because because they just cannot do this.Also,with the advanced technology of this era any couple can have a child.Also it is your decision,want to be gay?none of my business,but do not declare it when you are in my country.
Society cannot accept it so cannot law.

fcoftheuk
May 3rd, 2013, 08:55 AM
Unnatural...Sex is for completing not just satisfy a person from love and gay won't complete anything.

I'd just like to say, I'm not gay (i'm openly bisexual) but their couples are just as natural as anyone else's. First of all, if your not happy about it, fuck you. Secondly, maybe it doesn't create a physical human being but their's something called LOVE behind it!

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 09:07 AM
I'd just like to say, I'm not gay (i'm openly bisexual) but their couples are just as natural as anyone else's. First of all, if your not happy about it, fuck you. Secondly, maybe it doesn't create a physical human being but their's something called LOVE behind it!

First of all,Watch your mouth!
And in the second,maybe it is love and i do not have any problem with something in the name of Love.

But i have some bad feelings about homosexuality,if it is declared in the public.
But if a person tells me he is homosexual,i will treat with him like a friend(if he is my friend)or like a normal person.

Jess
May 3rd, 2013, 09:53 AM
Those couples are not unnatural because because they just cannot do this.Also,with the advanced technology of this era any couple can have a child.Also it is your decision,want to be gay?none of my business,but do not declare it when you are in my country.
Society cannot accept it so cannot law.

It's not a decision to be gay. I'm sure most gays would not have chosen to be gay since they are bullied and such if they could chose.

Harry Smith
May 3rd, 2013, 12:35 PM
First of all,Watch your mouth!
And in the second,maybe it is love and i do not have any problem with something in the name of Love.

But i have some bad feelings about homosexuality,if it is declared in the public.
But if a person tells me he is homosexual,i will treat with him like a friend(if he is my friend)or like a normal person.

That's called Fascism, your trying to repress people's civil rights.

LunarScorpio
May 3rd, 2013, 12:37 PM
I just say "and"

Absolutely fine. Some are, some are not, it is your choice, just don't embarrass others if they are not, even if you fancy them

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 01:02 PM
That's called Fascism, your trying to repress people's civil rights.

Civil rights are for a nation not for whole world.You never can have a world with a united culture and civil rights,
Even you western countries,or as you call"21th century countries",have differences in their civil rights.Because of your cultures!

Harry Smith
May 3rd, 2013, 01:09 PM
Civil rights are for a nation not for whole world.You never can have a world with a united culture and civil rights,
Even you western countries,or as you call"21th century countries",have differences in their civil rights.Because of your cultures!

You are attempting to force a group of people e.g homosexuals to repress there views, this is the foundation of Fascism.

To be honest you keep going on about your glamorous culture but it sounds like a religious fanatics day dream. Homosexuality is perfectly normal and perfectly fine, no matter where you come from. The middle east need to accept that

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 01:17 PM
First of all,according to your own language grammar:"The Middle East needs to accept that."
And in the second:The Middle East doesn't need to accept that.Have you ever accept our right culture about not using massive destructive weapons?
No,still you are ready to use all of your available weapons to destroy your rivals.So why should we accept your cultures?

Harry Smith
May 3rd, 2013, 01:24 PM
First of all,according to your own language grammar:"The Middle East needs to accept that."
And in the second:The Middle East doesn't need to accept that.Have you ever accept our right culture about not using massive destructive weapons?
No,still you are ready to use all of your available weapons to destroy your rivals.So why should we accept your cultures?

Because LGBT is not a culture issue, it's like saying that when america introduced civil rights in the '60's that it was cultural decision, it wasn't... it was a guarantee of an universal set of rights for all racial groups. Gay rights is not to do with culture, it's to do with the fact that gays and lesbians in Iran and the middle east are being unfairly and illegally treated. I know your blessed holy book says it is correct but I'll quote you something that a Muslim said which always moves me.

Ive got my god,he speaks to me every day. Some things I just cant work out,so I leave them be. Okay? Even if I think they're wrong. Because I know, one day hell make me understand. I've got that trust; its called belief. I'm a lucky man.

The world is moving in a direction towards large scale approval of LGBT rights and it's beautiful, you can try and fight the power of love but you will never be able to stop the fact that both I and many others are gay despite what you wish to believe.

britishboy
May 3rd, 2013, 01:26 PM
we dont want to use our nukes and nukes and deterrents they help peace and broken pen if you guys are so against it why are you trying to develop then? but I agree with broken pen on the fact that we should not force our culture on the middle east

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 01:31 PM
Man,You are serious?
Please go an wash your own socks(i mean live with your own beliefs)
I will do with my own.

However,still they are just below 1% of my country's male population,like what they were in the reign of Shah(Era of sexual freedom in Iran).So still i believe it is cultural meanwhile it is genetic.

Harry Smith
May 3rd, 2013, 01:32 PM
we dont want to use our nukes and nukes and deterrents they help peace and broken pen if you guys are so against it why are you trying to develop then? but I agree with broken pen on the fact that we should not force our culture on the middle east

it's not about forcing our culture, it's about making sure that people's fundamental rights are upheld

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 01:35 PM
we dont want to use our nukes and nukes and deterrents they help peace and broken pen if you guys are so against it why are you trying to develop then? but I agree with broken pen on the fact that we should not force our culture on the middle east
Dear Jack!
If we wanted to develop one,we had done it about 10 years ago.But we need medics from Nuclear power not weapon!So we are not looking for nuclear weapon.

britishboy
May 3rd, 2013, 01:39 PM
Dear Jack!
If we wanted to develop one,we had done it about 10 years ago.But we need medics from Nuclear power not weapon!So we are not looking for nuclear weapon.

guess so it is really unfair to not allow you nuclear power

britishboy
May 3rd, 2013, 01:44 PM
it's not about forcing our culture, it's about making sure that people's fundamental rights are upheld

Iran is an Islamic state it's different everyone has the same views etc so gay people really are hated. and of course I am not agreeing with it, I'm British! but we must realise we dont live in a perfect world and if we did we would all live forever, no poverty, no wars see what I mean?

Left Now
May 3rd, 2013, 01:44 PM
Yes,it is unfair.
The Western countries like US,do not fear about nuclear weapons about Iran;
They just want Islamic Republic's medical industries to be dependent on their own nuclear medical industries.This is why they are trying to convince you Iran is going to make a nuclear weapon.
This is a money thing.However let us get back to topic.

LunarScorpio
May 3rd, 2013, 01:50 PM
Gay is absolutly fine.

No issues with it, and support people who are when they get teased.

I am str8 but am perfectly ok with gays

Danny_boi 16
May 22nd, 2013, 07:39 PM
if it is your personal nature then it is natural, and of course there's nothing wrong with it and it is OK

Jake Morgan
May 22nd, 2013, 08:38 PM
It's a question that's usually given a subjective answer. All the most are able to do here is answer whether or not it's okay or not with them personally.

gladiator528
May 22nd, 2013, 09:19 PM
It's natural in the sense that it occurs in nature, but there is no "gay" gene. Being gay is a choice, you aren't born that way.

Jess
May 22nd, 2013, 10:25 PM
It's natural in the sense that it occurs in nature, but there is no "gay" gene. Being gay is a choice, you aren't born that way.

It is not a choice. Why would someone choose to be something that some people find disgusting/unnatural, why would someone choose to be something that they'll get bullied for by those who think being gay is wrong?

Straights didn't choose to be straight.

gladiator528
May 22nd, 2013, 11:02 PM
It is not a choice. Why would someone choose to be something that some people find disgusting/unnatural, why would someone choose to be something that they'll get bullied for by those who think being gay is wrong?

Straights didn't choose to be straight.

You can't just blatantly deny scientific fact to support your argument. No one is born gay. It is their psychological choice to go against the natural function of their bodies.

TheDeepestDepths
May 23rd, 2013, 09:58 AM
You can't just blatantly deny scientific fact to support your argument. No one is born gay. It is their psychological choice to go against the natural function of their bodies.

You say you have 'Scientific Proof' that people choose to be gay? Yet you have no links, quotes etc. to back up your claim.

Well, I have Scientific Proof that people are born gay.

October 2004 (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6519)
November 2004 (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6612)
January 2005 (http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20050128/is-there-gay-gene)
June 2006 (http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Pregnancy/3641)
June 2008 (http://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html)

Here's (http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx) an article by APA on LGBT.

randomnessqueen
May 23rd, 2013, 10:48 AM
unless you think the purpose of life is to reproduce, then there is nothing unnatural about homosexuality.

jayyy-lmao
May 23rd, 2013, 01:51 PM
Natural... Well, I may be bi, but I still don't think it's 100% natural. The reason humans feel attraction is to procreate. To procreate, one must have sex with someone of [b]the opposite sex[b]. Therefore, I don't think being gay is "Natural", as it doesn't support the continuation of the species. But I do think it's okay. The only way being gay would ever be a problem is if the percentage of the population that is gay overtook the percentage that is straight. There wouldn't be enough people born. It would be slow, but we would dwindle in our numbers.

Mob Boss
May 23rd, 2013, 02:15 PM
Why are people so obsessed with what makes others who they are? It's just something that happens - why can't we be satisfied with that answer? What about it isn't natural? The whole reproduction part? Well, there are plenty of people that aren't able to have children because of certain medical issues. I guess they're unnatural, too. Animals. I know this comes up a LOT, but it is one of the best arguments for the whole Nature v.s. Nurture debate. If it was so unnatural would nearly 1,500 species in the animal kingdom practice same-sex sex? We are of the animal kingdom. We share most of the same genetic material and our bodies are very similar to that of mammals. The dwarf chimpanzee is one of the most well-known homosexual animals, it just so happens to also be one of humanity's closest relatives. As for natural, what does the human race do anymore that is natural, whatsoever? Any kind of body modification is unnatural, the diets 90 percent of people have are unnatural, technology that we used today, well, you could say that's unnatural, too. This whole "natural" argument is BS. Nothing we do is natural anymore - and sexuality, no matter the kind, is one of the more natural things. Sexuality is innate and something that we are born with. Just because you don't have an open mind, doesn't give you the right to call someone unnatural because of what they like. They can't help who they fall for and what their taste is anymore than anyone else can. What you like is what you like. And if it's procreation you're concerned with, look around. We are becoming over-crowded. The entire world is over-populated. We're not going extinct anytime soon, I can guarantee you that. This subject is getting so tired and worn, with half-brained remarks and just plain rude answers from some. Sexual orientation is immutable, regardless of how bad you want to call someone a "freak" or "unnatural", they can't change anymore than you can. So trying to decipher it's origin is useless. Here's a few words of wisdom; Accept others just the way they are.

Twilly F. Sniper
May 23rd, 2013, 06:45 PM
It is natural.

Trenton_
May 24th, 2013, 02:32 PM
Sure, it's fine. If babies are born that way, does it mean it's in their dna?

Croconaw
May 24th, 2013, 02:46 PM
You can't choose to be gay. It's ok to be gay but some people think otherwise

darthearth
May 26th, 2013, 09:38 AM
totally natural, I never chose, but even if I did it wouldn't be a wrong one.

Appypollylogges
May 26th, 2013, 03:55 PM
i dun really care. It is not the sexuality that defines a whole man.

yes!!

britishboy
May 26th, 2013, 04:04 PM
I would much rather be straight but have nothing against gays

The LOLer
May 26th, 2013, 09:53 PM
Yeah your not hurting anyone. Yolo

britishboy
May 27th, 2013, 06:57 AM
being gay is not natural in the sence they cant naturally reproduce but they deserve the same rights

Harry Smith
May 27th, 2013, 07:37 AM
being gay is not natural in the sence they cant naturally reproduce but they deserve the same rights

So then is it unnatural for a couple that can't have children to be together?

britishboy
May 27th, 2013, 09:05 AM
So then is it unnatural for a couple that can't have children to be together?

penis goes in vigina wether you have a baby or not thats how its ment to be and gays should have equal rights though and have the right to fathet a child they just wont do it naturally

Harry Smith
May 27th, 2013, 09:12 AM
penis goes in vigina wether you have a baby or not thats how its ment to be and gays should have equal rights though and have the right to fathet a child they just wont do it naturally

no, that's not how it's meant to be. You can't just make grand statements like that. There is no universal law which states that heterosexual intercourse is how it's meant to be is there?

britishboy
May 27th, 2013, 09:20 AM
no, that's not how it's meant to be. You can't just make grand statements like that. There is no universal law which states that heterosexual intercourse is how it's meant to be is there?

im pro gay rights lol and wether or not something is natural is opinion not fact

Xandle
May 27th, 2013, 02:26 PM
You can't just blatantly deny scientific fact to support your argument. No one is born gay. It is their psychological choice to go against the natural function of their bodies.

I'm not gay, but support gay rights. This film was amazing, and I think really helps to illustrate the fact that being gay is not a choice. It also highlights the horrors of gay bullying very well, not that that's what we're talking about. It's 20 mins long but please watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCoFoKvfc6Y

jayyy-lmao
May 28th, 2013, 11:28 AM
I'm not gay, but support gay rights. This film was amazing, and I think really helps to illustrate the fact that being gay is not a choice. It also highlights the horrors of gay bullying very well, not that that's what we're talking about. It's 20 mins long but please watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCoFoKvfc6Y

Watched this video in school. It's phenomenal.

britishboy
May 28th, 2013, 12:46 PM
You can't just blatantly deny scientific fact to support your argument. No one is born gay. It is their psychological choice to go against the natural function of their bodies.

do you think being gay is fun? and you can just 'choose' it?! firstly there is no real proof for either argument but many gay people are bullied, social out casts and many feel bad about them selves, obviously this is not the case with all gays, but ive seen a gay. guy being bullied and gay celebrities say stuff like 'im proud of my self now but hatted my self when I was younger' also as there is no real proof the only reliable source is people like harry smith (gay people) as they have experienced it them selves

Mob Boss
May 28th, 2013, 01:44 PM
penis goes in vigina wether you have a baby or not thats how its ment to be and gays should have equal rights though and have the right to fathet a child they just wont do it naturally

What? I have no clue what that means....


You can't just blatantly deny scientific fact to support your argument. No one is born gay. It is their psychological choice to go against the natural function of their bodies.

I'm all for scientific facts, except I don't see any. Do you have any facts that show that homosexuality is, in fact, a choice? No, because if you did, and if that were even the slightest bit true, practically everyone would be straight. There wouldn't even be discussions or debates about this. You can't turn feelings on and off. It doesn't work that way. Psychological choice? You can't re-program your brain, either. What you are emotionally and sexually attracted to is no different than skin or eye color. It's inherent and immutable. Yes, as people develop and age, attractions may change over time, but it has absolutely nothing to do with choice; rather self-discovery and sexual development. It's a combination of hormonal, social and genetic factors, not a switch you can turn on and off whenever you please. It's been shown that there are epigenetic molecules in our brain that are like the control center for sexuality. It may not be genes, per se, but the molecules that regulate our genes, i.e. it's not a choice . If you looked at the scientific fact instead of choosing to "blatantly deny" them, you'd probably realize that studies clearly show that homosexuality runs in families, with an increased rate among siblings. That has nothing to do with choice, rather inherent nature. There are countless studies on the occurrence of homosexuality in identical twins, where not just one is homosexual, but both. My best friend is gay and he didn't just one day consciously make the decision to be attracted to guys. It happened. He couldn't change it, yet was always trying to suppress it. So tell me, again, why would anyone choose to be homosexual if they get ridicule from every shmuck that thinks they know how others feel? Exactly, they wouldn't.

Stronk Serb
May 28th, 2013, 04:36 PM
I guess it is natural. I think that most of your sexuality is in your DNA, but you can be forcefully influenced, to some extent. It is OK. I thijg they should have equal rights as us straights.

britishboy
May 28th, 2013, 05:22 PM
I think it might be both, dna and influence

Korashk
May 29th, 2013, 03:50 AM
wether or not something is natural is opinion not fact
Umm...no it isn't. In this context whether or not something is natural has nothing to do with anyone's opinion. It's objectively true that homosexuality is natural, it's not an opinion.

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 03:53 AM
Umm...no it isn't. In this context whether or not something is natural has nothing to do with anyone's opinion. It's objectively true that homosexuality is natural, it's not an opinion.

its a opinion:/ and being gay in my opinion is natural but anal isnt (with a girl or guy) but I dont think its wrong and when im older I might try anal my self (with a girl)

fallenLethal
May 29th, 2013, 05:03 AM
Life does not revolve around reproduction.

The LOLer
May 29th, 2013, 01:25 PM
Yes. Period

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 01:58 PM
its a opinion:/ and being gay in my opinion is natural but anal isnt (with a girl or guy) but I dont think its wrong and when im older I might try anal my self (with a girl)

It is Natural, you see it in the wild.

Also don't jump to the conclusion that just because your gay you engage in Anal sex

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 02:02 PM
It is Natural, you see it in the wild.

Also don't jump to the conclusion that just because your gay you engage in Anal sex

haha I have no problem with anal in fact its a nice idea(with a girl with me) I just believe everybody part has a function and anal goes against this is why I believe it ti be unnatural but its not wrong and its the sex im talking about not the sexuality, this is decided in the womb it must be natural

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 02:04 PM
haha I have no problem with anal in fact its a nice idea(with a girl with me) I just believe everybody part has a function and anal goes against this is why I believe it ti be unnatural but its not wrong and its the sex im talking about not the sexuality, this is decided in the womb it must be natural

So by that theory is it unnatural to touch a girl boobs during sex? Also if anal sex is unnatural then why is the prostate there? This is commonly known as the male g-spot

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 02:11 PM
So by that theory is it unnatural to touch a girl boobs during sex? Also if anal sex is unnatural then why is the prostate there? This is commonly known as the male g-spot

ew ew ew please dont tell me I dont want to know about male sex and no its nit unnatural to touch a girls tits, virginias take cock, asses shit, its this going against nature that make it in my opinion unnatural

Mob Boss
May 29th, 2013, 02:18 PM
ew ew ew please dont tell me I dont want to know about male sex and no its nit unnatural to touch a girls tits, virginias take cock, asses shit, its this going against nature that make it in my opinion unnatural

Do you even know what you're blubbering about anymore? Stop being so vulgar, it's definitely not helping your cause any. The male G-spot is the prostate gland, which is found in the bum (for lack of a better word). How is anal unnatural if that's one of the only ways to stimulate it? Meaning you're wrong....again. Homosexuality is natural, period.

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 02:21 PM
Do you even know what you're blubbering about anymore? Stop being so vulgar, it's definitely not helping your cause any.

yes I do being gay is natural, but anal is not but is fine and I like the idea

Rayquaza
May 29th, 2013, 02:23 PM
ew ew ew please dont tell me I dont want to know about male sex and no its nit unnatural to touch a girls tits, virginias take cock, asses shit, its this going against nature that make it in my opinion unnatural

So what if it's unnatural? We wear clothes, nature didn't intend for us to wear them, we choose to because it doesn't affect anyone and makes us feel comfortable. That's exactly like homosexuality. It doesn't affect anyone and makes other people feel comfortable.

Where's your argument against that?

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 02:58 PM
ew ew ew please dont tell me I dont want to know about male sex and no its nit unnatural to touch a girls tits, virginias take cock, asses shit, its this going against nature that make it in my opinion unnatural

You say EW EW EW then proceed to talk about sex, hypocritical much?

1) By your theory of what is natural the mammary gland ( Breasts) are designed to produce milk, yet through western and human sexual tendecies it has became a secondary sex organ, but by your theory it's unnatural because it wasn't created for sex. Please explain to me, is your theory wrong or is the idea of touching a girl breast unnatural?

Also could you BE anymore idiotic

Los Frijoles
May 29th, 2013, 03:01 PM
As touchy a topic as this is, I really have to say I don't think being gay is natural or ok. The body is biologically geared towards passing on its own genes. Aanything going against that is thus not natural, as it defies a natural, primal urge. It is then not ok by extension, as defying one of the most basic primal instincts is to defy a big part of what it means to live.

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 03:04 PM
As touchy a topic as this is, I really have to say I don't think being gay is natural or ok. The body is biologically geared towards passing on its own genes. Aanything going against that is thus not natural, as it defies a natural, primal urge. It is then not ok by extension, as defying one of the most basic primal instincts is to defy a big part of what it means to live.

Ok, I'm completely unnatural aren't I? I'm not ok by your standards, how am I going to live?

Also by your theory if a couple can't have kids does that mean that when they have sex it is unnatural?

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 03:06 PM
You say EW EW EW then proceed to talk about sex, hypocritical much?

1) By your theory of what is natural the mammary gland ( Breasts) are designed to produce milk, yet through western and human sexual tendecies it has became a secondary sex organ, but by your theory it's unnatural because it wasn't created for sex. Please explain to me, is your theory wrong or is the idea of touching a girl breast unnatural?

Also could you BE anymore idiotic

im not being idiotic, gay sex makes me want to throw up, im also not a fan of blood and attraction ti the female body is natural, its the same as you being attracted to asses, its the anal that is unnatural

Los Frijoles
May 29th, 2013, 03:09 PM
Ok, I'm completely unnatural aren't I? I'm not ok by your standards, how am I going to live?

Also by your theory if a couple can't have kids does that mean that when they have sex it is unnatural?

Homosexuality is absolutely unnatural. However, it does not prevent anyone from living, it only prevents them from living in the way they were intended to. Its like using a knife to eat pudding, it still sort of works, but knives still were not made to be used in pudding-eating. As for sterile couples, there you also have more unnatural behaviour. It is not biologically correct to be attracted to a sterile mate, they are equally incapable of passing on genes. So yes, you are completely unnatural, but you still live, as are couples wh are unable to have children.

LunarScorpio
May 29th, 2013, 03:11 PM
I hate seeing in the news these HUGE arguments and law cases over Gays.

They are normal people, they have eyes, ears nose etc.

I feel it is like banning people from being themselves, and am really happy that governments are now seeing this and making gay marriage legal.

Seriously, Gays are absolutely fine, I have NOTHING against them.

Mob Boss
May 29th, 2013, 05:09 PM
im not being idiotic, gay sex makes me want to throw up, im also not a fan of blood and attraction ti the female body is natural, its the same as you being attracted to asses, its the anal that is unnatural

Your indecisive bigotry makes me want to vomit, but you don't see me calling you unnatural. Earlier you said what is natural is matter of opinion, but now you're on your soapbox about anal sex. Honestly, guy, choose a side before you hurt your brain. Yes, homosexual sex is natural. It's found amongst many, many other animals in the animal kingdom - albeit some do it for reasons such as to show dominance, while others are truly attracted to the same sex and engage in same-sex behavior. It's found in nature, thus it appears to be natural. :rolleyes:


I hate seeing in the news these HUGE arguments and law cases over Gays.

They are normal people, they have eyes, ears nose etc.

I feel it is like banning people from being themselves, and am really happy that governments are now seeing this and making gay marriage legal.

Seriously, Gays are absolutely fine, I have NOTHING against them.

^ Amen. Maybe instead of worrying about who is natural and who isn't, we should be looking for a cure for this bigotry that seems to be running rampant. *shrugs*

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 05:27 PM
Homosexuality is absolutely unnatural. However, it does not prevent anyone from living, it only prevents them from living in the way they were intended to. Its like using a knife to eat pudding, it still sort of works, but knives still were not made to be used in pudding-eating. As for sterile couples, there you also have more unnatural behaviour. It is not biologically correct to be attracted to a sterile mate, they are equally incapable of passing on genes. So yes, you are completely unnatural, but you still live, as are couples wh are unable to have children.

Ok, I'm completely unnatural. You've changed my life around

A bit of advice, you've been here for about what a day. The best way to get on with people on this forum is to be friendly, going up to someone and saying that they are unnatural isn't very polite. Your not going to get very far holding such offensive views on a teen website where a large number of people are gay. Me included.

A lot of people in the world don't want to have children, including straight couples. But I'm sure now that you've said that it's unnatural everyone will start mating like rabits


im not being idiotic, gay sex makes me want to throw up, im also not a fan of blood and attraction ti the female body is natural, its the same as you being attracted to asses, its the anal that is unnatural

I'm not attracted to boys anals. But I wouldn't want to spread my gayness to you unless you throw up.

Jess
May 29th, 2013, 05:34 PM
Homosexuality is absolutely unnatural. However, it does not prevent anyone from living, it only prevents them from living in the way they were intended to. Its like using a knife to eat pudding, it still sort of works, but knives still were not made to be used in pudding-eating. As for sterile couples, there you also have more unnatural behaviour. It is not biologically correct to be attracted to a sterile mate, they are equally incapable of passing on genes. So yes, you are completely unnatural, but you still live, as are couples wh are unable to have children.

And so it's also unnatural to NOT want children? I don't want children.

Ace of Spades
May 29th, 2013, 05:57 PM
Homosexuality is absolutely unnatural. However, it does not prevent anyone from living, it only prevents them from living in the way they were intended to. Its like using a knife to eat pudding, it still sort of works, but knives still were not made to be used in pudding-eating. As for sterile couples, there you also have more unnatural behaviour. It is not biologically correct to be attracted to a sterile mate, they are equally incapable of passing on genes. So yes, you are completely unnatural, but you still live, as are couples wh are unable to have children.

Did you ever take a biology class?
Also, you have yet to explain how any of that makes homosexuality unnatural.
"Mating" and mariage are two veeeeery different things.
Attraction and sterility have nothing to do with each other. Do you go up to somebody and ask if they're sterile before you decide to be attracted to them?

Trenton_
May 29th, 2013, 05:59 PM
I'm not attracted to boys anals. But I wouldn't want to spread my gayness to you unless you throw up.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if you're un-natural, but how do you spread your gayness? If you spread it, do you lose some and become more natural? Why would you spread it? I don't think we can change our naturalness.

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 06:04 PM
I'm not attracted to boys anals. But I wouldn't want to spread my gayness to you unless you throw up.

I don't know if you're un-natural, but how do you spread your gayness? If you spread it, do you lose some and become more natural? Why would you spread it? I don't think we can change our naturalness.[/QUOTE]

it was a joke on my part, due to the fact that many straight guys fear that by being around or thinking about gay people that they could potentially catch it

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 06:08 PM
I don't know if you're un-natural, but how do you spread your gayness? If you spread it, do you lose some and become more natural? Why would you spread it? I don't think we can change our naturalness.

it was a joke on my part, due to the fact that many straight guys fear that by being around or thinking about gay people that they could potentially catch it[/QUOTE]

I know I wont catch it (you cant) but it is disgusting and makes me sick the same as blood or other people throwing up and would be really nice if you didn't go into any real detail such as male g spots :eek:

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 06:12 PM
it was a joke on my part, due to the fact that many straight guys fear that by being around or thinking about gay people that they could potentially catch it

I know I wont catch it (you cant) but it is disgusting and makes me sick the same as blood or other people throwing up and would be really nice if you didn't go into any real detail such as male g spots :eek:[/QUOTE]

it was a joke, how old are you?

You enter a debate about homosexuality, you insult my sexuality. Surely I'm going to use the human body and the relevant language to defend my views. You mentioned penis and vagina, did I saw eww, no. Because I like to think of myself as slightly mature and able to enter a debate. Don't debate on homosexuality and then complain when I talk about it

Grow up

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 06:17 PM
I know I wont catch it (you cant) but it is disgusting and makes me sick the same as blood or other people throwing up and would be really nice if you didn't go into any real detail such as male g spots :eek:

it was a joke, how old are you?

You enter a debate about homosexuality, you insult my sexuality. Surely I'm going to use the human body and the relevant language to defend my views. You mentioned penis and vagina, did I saw eww, no. Because I like to think of myself as slightly mature and able to enter a debate. Don't debate on homosexuality and then complain when I talk about it. Fuck knows how you've got 1000 posts in what 40 days, saying that the amount of drab that you say is rather high.

Grow up[/QUOTE]

I can almost hear the steam coming out of your ears:D and im one of the tallist in my class (yeah bitch) and its cos I have quote convos like this one and it just makes me feel sick, and we can talk about it I just dont want to hear what turns you on and male g spots, is that to much to ask?

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 06:21 PM
I can almost hear the steam coming out of your ears:D and im one of the tallist in my class (yeah bitch) and its cos I have quote convos like this one and it just makes me feel sick, and we can talk about it I just dont want to hear what turns you on and male g spots, is that to much to ask?

If you read what I said, it was that all men, not just me have a certain place in there body which feels very good. If you simulate this place you will feel very good. The only way to access this good place is through your bum hole, which shows that anal sex is natural,despite what you think

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 06:24 PM
If you read what I said, it was that all men, not just me have a certain place in there body which feels very good. If you simulate this place you will feel very good. The only way to access this good place is through your bum hole, which shows that anal sex is natural,despite what you think

it means theres a sensitive nerve, AND THANKS! IVE THROWN UP EVERYWHERE!:D

Trenton_
May 29th, 2013, 06:25 PM
I don't know if you're un-natural, but how do you spread your gayness? If you spread it, do you lose some and become more natural? Why would you spread it? I don't think we can change our naturalness.


Yeah, that's why I asked. Ya can't spread it. I think they'd have to be extra stupid to think you could spread it and why would you want to because it could take away from your overall gayness and that would be a shame to switch teams or shift teams or substitute for a team or however that would work at this point in your life. i'm straight and not worried about gettin' gay cooties.

A lot of Str8 guys got it all wrong on the gay dudes and hating them. Gay guys kinda help straight guys that way. If there were more gay dudes at my school there'd be less competition for girls. haha. Maybe that's why everyone is calling other guys gay. haha

Rayquaza
May 29th, 2013, 06:30 PM
im not being idiotic, gay sex makes me want to throw up, im also not a fan of blood and attraction ti the female body is natural, its the same as you being attracted to asses, its the anal that is unnatural

it was a joke on my part, due to the fact that many straight guys fear that by being around or thinking about gay people that they could potentially catch it

I know I wont catch it (you cant) but it is disgusting and makes me sick the same as blood or other people throwing up and would be really nice if you didn't go into any real detail such as male g spots :eek:

Wow, that is by far one of the most offensive comments I've seen. Really. "Catch it" makes it seem like homosexuality is some sort of disease, like people that are with this "disease" should be avoided and left alone. You say you're not idiotic but there's one massive problem I have with that statement, the fact that you say gay sex makes you want to throw up. So what? You're not gay, that's none of your concern, and what two consenting adults do in their own bedroom is their business, not yours. Some homosexual men might think that straight sex is gross, but they're not going to discourage you from doing it, because it's not their business, so why should what two gay people do in a room be yours?

And which part of Britain do you live in exactly, because to be honest Britain is such a LGBT-accepting place, and that is one of the most far-fetched things I've heard, to say that people "fear" it. If they fear that, it's their business. What you need to do is to sit down and realise what's your business and what's not.

And as I said before, so what if it's unnatural? How is that a bad thing?



I can almost hear the steam coming out of your ears:D and im one of the tallist in my class (yeah bitch) and its cos I have quote convos like this one and it just makes me feel sick, and we can talk about it I just dont want to hear what turns you on and male g spots, is that to much to ask?

Well obviously, it seems like you came hear to piss people off rather than actually form logical conversations and make valid arguments. People are going to get pissed at you. Who cares if you're the tallest in the class? That's completely off topic and shows that you're entire argument is flawed and useless. And normal conversations like that shouldn't make you feel sick, otherwise perhaps it might have been your fault for even getting involved in this ROTW discussion if you clearly are not able to handle the the topic. He only touched upon some of the biology as it supported his statement. No one is actually dwelling upon the issue, so if you think that's your scapegoat you've definitely lost the plot.

it means theres a sensitive nerve, AND THANKS! IVE THROWN UP EVERYWHERE!:D

HAHAHAHAH OMG SO FUNNY LOL I PISS MYSELF LAUGHING!

britishboy
May 29th, 2013, 06:34 PM
Wow, that is by far one of the most offensive comments I've seen. Really. "Catch it" makes it seem like homosexuality is some sort of disease, like people that are with this "disease" should be avoided and left alone. You say you're not idiotic but there's one massive problem I have with that statement, the fact that you say gay sex makes you want to throw up. So what? You're not gay, that's none of your concern, and what two consenting adults do in their own bedroom is their business, not yours. Some homosexual men might think that straight sex is gross, but they're not going to discourage you from doing it, because it's not their business, so why should what two gay people do in a room be yours?

And which part of Britain do you live in exactly, because to be honest Britain is such a LGBT-accepting place, and that is one of the most far-fetched things I've heard, to say that people "fear" it. If they fear that, it's their business. What you need to do is to sit down and realise what's your business and what's not.

And as I said before, so what if it's unnatural? How is that a bad thing?



Well obviously, it seems like you came hear to piss people off rather than actually form logical conversations and make valid arguments. People are going to get pissed at you. Who cares if you're the tallest in the class? That's completely off topic and shows that you're entire argument is flawed and useless. And normal conversations like that shouldn't make you feel sick, otherwise perhaps it might have been your fault for even getting involved in this ROTW discussion if you clearly are not able to handle the the topic. He only touched upon some of the biology as it supported his statement. No one is actually dwelling upon the issue, so if you think that's your scapegoat you've definitely lost the plot.



HAHAHAHAH OMG SO FUNNY LOL I PISS MYSELF LAUGHING!

wooow you write loads, ill read and reply later

Harry Smith
May 29th, 2013, 06:35 PM
wooow you write loads, ill read and reply later

The hallmark of a genius

Fanta_Lover44
May 30th, 2013, 06:16 AM
well people were arguing about this in another thread so I thought I would make a new thread for it

Ok this is my opinion,

I don't care if people are gay/bi , not the same tan or skin colour (Don't mean in the offensive way) why should they be treated differently? We are all humans at the end of the day and should always respect one another.

I think that being gay is fine. :)

Los Frijoles
May 30th, 2013, 03:38 PM
[QUOTE=Harry Smith;2301782]Ok, I'm completely unnatural. You've changed my life around

A bit of advice, you've been here for about what a day. The best way to get on with people on this forum is to be friendly, going up to someone and saying that they are unnatural isn't very polite. Your not going to get very far holding such offensive views on a teen website where a large number of people are gay. Me included.

A lot of people in the world don't want to have children, including straight couples. But I'm sure now that you've said that it's unnatural everyone will start mating like rabits

While I apologize if I may have offended you, the topic is about whether or not being gay is natural, and you did directly ask me if I thought you were unnatural. I gave my honest view on both counts. I don't intend to start a mating frenzy, only to present why I believe homosexuality or any other thing hindering reproduction and passing of genes is unnatural from my stand point.

Once more, I don't intend at all to attack anyone personally, only to present and defend my views on this topic.

britishboy
May 30th, 2013, 05:18 PM
Wow, that is by far one of the most offensive comments I've seen. Really. "Catch it" makes it seem like homosexuality is some sort of disease, like people that are with this "disease" should be avoided and left alone. You say you're not idiotic but there's one massive problem I have with that statement, the fact that you say gay sex makes you want to throw up. So what? You're not gay, that's none of your concern, and what two consenting adults do in their own bedroom is their business, not yours. Some homosexual men might think that straight sex is gross, but they're not going to discourage you from doing it, because it's not their business, so why should what two gay people do in a room be yours?

And which part of Britain do you live in exactly, because to be honest Britain is such a LGBT-accepting place, and that is one of the most far-fetched things I've heard, to say that people "fear" it. If they fear that, it's their business. What you need to do is to sit down and realise what's your business and what's not.

And as I said before, so what if it's unnatural? How is that a bad thing?



Well obviously, it seems like you came hear to piss people off rather than actually form logical conversations and make valid arguments. People are going to get pissed at you. Who cares if you're the tallest in the class? That's completely off topic and shows that you're entire argument is flawed and useless. And normal conversations like that shouldn't make you feel sick, otherwise perhaps it might have been your fault for even getting involved in this ROTW discussion if you clearly are not able to handle the the topic. He only touched upon some of the biology as it supported his statement. No one is actually dwelling upon the issue, so if you think that's your scapegoat you've definitely lost the plot.



HAHAHAHAH OMG SO FUNNY LOL I PISS MYSELF LAUGHING!

firstly im not here to piss anyone off, ill try to answer this in points
I said I know you cant catch it, I was not referencing it to a disease.
gay sex does make me want to throw up, the same as blood, and no its my buissness and I didnt see why harry smith felt the need to tell me about male g spots,

my main home is in London but have a larger home in Sussex and its a common opinion that gay sex is unnatural as it goes against the function of your body, but being gay is natural in my opinion and yeah most brits, me included are happy with gays.

TheDeepestDepths
May 30th, 2013, 07:00 PM
firstly im not here to piss anyone off, ill try to answer this in points
I said I know you cant catch it, I was not referencing it to a disease.
gay sex does make me want to throw up, the same as blood, and no its my buissness and I didnt see why harry smith felt the need to tell me about male g spots,

my main home is in London but have a larger home in Sussex and its a common opinion that gay sex is unnatural as it goes against the function of your body, but being gay is natural in my opinion and yeah most brits, me included are happy with gays.

He "felt the need to tell you" as it backs up his argument.

Why would there be a spot of intense pleasure in people's anus' if only straight people were supposed to have sex and only to reproduce?

So you are only happy with gays on the surface, but when it gets to the point where you have to think about it it's disgusting? Honestly, even if it's not true, you sound like you are just saying you are okay with gay people.

britishboy
May 30th, 2013, 07:04 PM
He "felt the need to tell you" as it backs up his argument.

Why would there be a spot of intense pleasure in people's anus' if only straight people were supposed to have sex and only to reproduce?

So you are only happy with gays on the surface, but when it gets to the point where you have to think about it it's disgusting? Honestly, even if it's not true, you sound like you are just saying you are okay with gay people.

im fine with gays and gay sex, I just dont want to know about the sex

NzForever
May 30th, 2013, 07:04 PM
Yes its normal.

Rayquaza
May 31st, 2013, 04:13 AM
im fine with gays and gay sex, I just dont want to know about the sex

Seems like you didn't even bother to read my post.

The fact is, the sex has nothing to do with you. You, as someone who is not gay, but sees other gay people, should only concern yourself with the two men being together. The sex is not your business. Some gay men might consider being abstinent. Have you even considered that?

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 04:39 AM
Seems like you didn't even bother to read my post.

The fact is, the sex has nothing to do with you. You, as someone who is not gay, but sees other gay people, should only concern yourself with the two men being together. The sex is not your business. Some gay men might consider being abstinent. Have you even considered that?

I did read your post haha it taken forever:p and I dont care about gays being together, and fucking till they cant walk I just dont wanna be told the details

Rayquaza
May 31st, 2013, 06:15 AM
I did read your post haha it taken forever:p and I dont care about gays being together, and fucking till they cant walk I just dont wanna be told the details

You obviously do care. No one's talking about sex here, one person mentioned a g-spot. So what? Are you that immature to go "ewww g-spot biology gross"

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 06:20 AM
You obviously do care. No one's talking about sex here, one person mentioned a g-spot. So what? Are you that immature to go "ewww g-spot biology gross"

it just makes me feel sick:p bloods the same:p and I dont care, homosexuals are just a different sexuality, its like sexaual preference, and lets not talk about it then:o

Rayquaza
May 31st, 2013, 06:37 AM
it just makes me feel sick:p bloods the same:p and I dont care, homosexuals are just a different sexuality, its like sexaual preference, and lets not talk about it then:o

Sounds like homophobia.

Oh well, you just can't change some people.

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 06:47 AM
Sounds like homophobia.

Oh well, you just can't change some people.

im not homophobic!! im fine with gays and am pro gay marriage, thats a big statement to make, I just dont wanna know about gay sex... thats pretty normal and I think your other reacting

Harry Smith
May 31st, 2013, 06:50 AM
I did read your post haha it taken forever:p and I dont care about gays being together, and fucking till they cant walk I just dont wanna be told the details

don't enter a debate about homosexuality because it's likely that I'm going to use the human body to further my debate. Grow up.

Also it isn't a preference, it's an orientation

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 06:54 AM
don't enter a debate about homosexuality because it's likely that I'm going to use the human body to further my debate. Grow up

and why would you need to use the human body?, I just dobt wanna know details, im pro gay marriage and am for equality. remember that im just saying I dont wanna know about the sex when theres counties out there who legally hang gay people. I am completely for gays but would rather not having the details if gay sex

Rayquaza
May 31st, 2013, 06:56 AM
im not homophobic!! im fine with gays and am pro gay marriage, thats a big statement to make, I just dont wanna know about gay sex... thats pretty normal and I think your other reacting

What are you on? Of course you're homophobic. All you think about is what they do when they have sex. You've made literally no good point here and your entire argument is flawed. I have to repeat myself three or four times because you seem to just go round in circles and literally see in black and white. Homophobic people are the ones that say "ewww". And you're just like that. You want to believe you're not homophobic but through the comments you made in this thread you really are. No one is talking about gay sex. No one is talking about blood. Shut the hell up and talk about the actual issue, not dwelling on something else. Sex does not equal sexuality. And you've repeated yourself so many times, we know you don't like talking about gay sex, but no one is talking about it.

Harry Smith
May 31st, 2013, 06:58 AM
and why would you need to use the human body?, I just dobt wanna know details, im pro gay marriage and am for equality. remember that im just saying I dont wanna know about the sex when theres counties out there who legally hang gay people. I am completely for gays but would rather not having the details if gay sex

what? We live in Britain, it's legal for be to be gay and to have sex. Don't try and justify your own views by saying it's worse in other countries

You claim to be pro-gay marriage and for equality but I can tell it's just a front. You only became pro-gay marriage after about 10 people disagreed with you on a thread, you keep calling it a preference which makes it sound like a choice and you enter a debate and then complain about gay sex.

I don't care if it makes you feel sick, that's your own problem. Don't try and insult my sexuality by ridiculing it and then complain when I try and defend it

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 09:14 AM
what? We live in Britain, it's legal for be to be gay and to have sex. Don't try and justify your own views by saying it's worse in other countries

You claim to be pro-gay marriage and for equality but I can tell it's just a front. You only became pro-gay marriage after about 10 people disagreed with you on a thread, you keep calling it a preference which makes it sound like a choice and you enter a debate and then complain about gay sex.

I don't care if it makes you feel sick, that's your own problem. Don't try and insult my sexuality by ridiculing it and then complain when I try and defend it

yeah I was against it because civil partnerships are praticly the same and were a christian country but changed my mind because it dosent affect me and I dont wanna be like one of them dick heads making decisions about others that dont affect them, and im not insulting your sexuality, just saying that all anal wether with a boy or girl is unnatural as it is not what your ass is designed for, however there is nothing wrong with it, and I will probley try anal with a girl when im older. and I know you cant chose it so stop putting words in my mouth, I ment it being gay is as harmless as a sexual preference

Harry Smith
May 31st, 2013, 10:05 AM
yeah I was against it because civil partnerships are praticly the same and were a christian country but changed my mind because it dosent affect me and I dont wanna be like one of them dick heads making decisions about others that dont affect them, and im not insulting your sexuality, just saying that all anal wether with a boy or girl is unnatural as it is not what your ass is designed for, however there is nothing wrong with it, and I will probley try anal with a girl when im older. and I know you cant chose it so stop putting words in my mouth, I ment it being gay is as harmless as a sexual preference

if it's unnatural then why is there an area which is a secondary sex organ?

sexual preference

It's not a preference, it's an orientation. You can't pick it for lunch

Rayquaza
May 31st, 2013, 10:06 AM
yeah I was against it because civil partnerships are praticly the same and were a christian country but changed my mind because it dosent affect me and I dont wanna be like one of them dick heads making decisions about others that dont affect them, and im not insulting your sexuality, just saying that all anal wether with a boy or girl is unnatural as it is not what your ass is designed for, however there is nothing wrong with it, and I will probley try anal with a girl when im older. and I know you cant chose it so stop putting words in my mouth, I ment it being gay is as harmless as a sexual preference

Civil partnership and marriage aren't the same thing. Why else do you think a lot of gay people are protesting to legalise gay marriage?

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 10:16 AM
if it's unnatural then why is there an area which is a secondary sex organ?



It's not a preference, it's an orientation. You can't pick it for lunch

1) its sensitive nerves but makes it enjoyable for receiver so is good
2) I know you cant pick it, otherwise there would be many stories of people converting

Harry Smith
May 31st, 2013, 11:44 AM
1) its sensitive nerves but makes it enjoyable for receiver so is good
2) I know you cant pick it, otherwise there would be many stories of people converting

it's not to do with the sensitivity, many areas in the body have heightened sensitivity. There's a specific gland called the prostate, which disproves your whole argument that anal sex is not natural

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 11:50 AM
it's not to do with the sensitivity, many areas in the body have heightened sensitivity. There's a specific gland called the prostate, which disproves your whole argument that anal sex is not natural

harry... asses are for shitting anything ekes goes against your bodies design and is unnatural

Harry Smith
May 31st, 2013, 12:05 PM
harry... asses are for shitting anything ekes goes against your bodies design and is unnatural

Really?

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 12:08 PM
Really?

yepp

Rayquaza
May 31st, 2013, 12:43 PM
yepp

Wow, that's 1,068 productive posts(!)

Didn't you say yourself you would have anal sex with a girl? Make your bloody mind up!

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 12:49 PM
Wow, that's 1,068 productive posts(!)

Didn't you say yourself you would have anal sex with a girl? Make your bloody mind up!

yeah there's nothing wrong with anal, just in my opinion is unnatural

Rayquaza
May 31st, 2013, 12:55 PM
yeah there's nothing wrong with anal, just in my opinion is unnatural

So what if it's unnatural?

(3rd time asking)

britishboy
May 31st, 2013, 12:57 PM
So what if it's unnatural?

(3rd time asking)

are you incapable of reading I SAID IT IS NO PROBLEM

Harry Smith
May 31st, 2013, 01:13 PM
are you incapable of reading I SAID IT IS NO PROBLEM

Then why did you bring it up?

Snookers
May 31st, 2013, 02:50 PM
y u start riot?

Okay, so I'm going to state my opinion about sexuality, if you feel offended I am very sorry, but I ran out of fucks to give. So:

Am I the only sane person? Why does everyone make sexuality sound like a big deal? IS that what really matters in life??
~No.
Just because you are straight, homosexual, pansexual, demisexual, whateversexual, it doesn't mean you need a certain treatment from the society.

What truly matters in life is what you have in your head. Intelligence, charisma and independence are the things that will make you someone in this world.

Someone's sexual orientation does not define him as person ~ it's just a trait, that cannot be changed. We must learn to focus on more important things.

For me, honestly, sexuality means zero. I don;t care of you are straight or homosexual, if you are an asshole I won't hesitate to treat you like one.

Trenton_
May 31st, 2013, 03:21 PM
Maybe because we are natural creatures, it's natural that some people have a preference to be gay.

Gigablue
May 31st, 2013, 03:50 PM
Whether or not homosexuality is natural depends on how you define natural. If you call anything that occurs in nature natural, then obviously homosexuality is natural. If you base the definition on reproduction, then it's unnatural. I personally don't really care whether or not its natural. Plenty of natural things are bad, and plenty of artificial things are good.

As for whether its okay, I think the answer is much simpler. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone in any way. Society is no worse off because homosexuals exist. Simply put, we should allow maximum freedom as long as that freedom doesn't hurt anyone else. Since homosexuality hurts no one, I see nothing wrong with it.

Luke257
June 2nd, 2013, 01:53 PM
Of course its a natural thing, :)

britishboy
June 2nd, 2013, 02:09 PM
Whether or not homosexuality is natural depends on how you define natural. If you call anything that occurs in nature natural, then obviously homosexuality is natural. If you base the definition on reproduction, then it's unnatural. I personally don't really care whether or not its natural. Plenty of natural things are bad, and plenty of artificial things are good.

As for whether its okay, I think the answer is much simpler. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone in any way. Society is no worse off because homosexuals exist. Simply put, we should allow maximum freedom as long as that freedom doesn't hurt anyone else. Since homosexuality hurts no one, I see nothing wrong with it.

the most intelligent thing anyone on here has said

teen.jpg
June 2nd, 2013, 03:00 PM
the most intelligent thing anyone on here has said

Yes, because it definitely wasn't anything you said.

jacktheawesome
June 2nd, 2013, 03:01 PM
Being gay is great