Marijuana

[kolte]

Should Marijuana be legal? Why or why not?

It is my belief that marijuana should be legal. I have regularly used marijuana for many years now, and have observed no negative effects on my health as a result. To me the real issue is weather it is marijuana or the current marijuana legislation that causes more harm to society(ies). If the laws are more harmful then the substance, the laws should be changed, if marijuana is more harmful to society then the laws, the laws should be retained.

Views?

I'll elaborate once there is some opposition.

[Whisper]

hey man long time no see

It should be decriminalized hands down
it does no harm
Its putting allot of innocent people in jail
its costing billions in the fight to clamp down on it
and then billions more to build more unnecessary jails
etc...

its retarded
i think the gov's just stubborn my way or the highway kinda thing

[Archduke Robert of France]

I am going to have to say no. But, if it does get legalized I demand an age limit on of probably 21. I don't see why I should have to endure the stench of smelling like pot after I come off the school bus, or have to sit next to the person who just came back from his drug session and won't stop being annoying.

[kolte]

Care to elaborate?

[Archduke Robert of France]

Elaborate on what?

[kolte]

Surely your not serious. If you don't know what I want you to elaborate then I don't want you to elaborate.

[Archduke Robert of France]

Elaborate that I don't want to smell like pot when I got to work and have to take a drug test? Elaborate that someone might put pot in food that they'll give to me and ruin my career? Elaborate that people I've seen on drugs are violent or extremely annoying? Elaborate that most drug sellers don't care what they put in the drugs and that almost none of them are going to care about quality control if it means they make more money? Elaborate that marijuana depresses the immune system? Elaborate that is can act as a gateway drug for youth? Elaborate that it can impair youth mental development and lead to a less-than-splendid generation? Elaborate that people who do marijuana and drive are less able to respond to the need to make sudden decisions, potentially ruining the lives of entire families?

[kolte]

Yes, elaborate on that. Indeed.

Elaborate that I don't want to smell like pot when I got to work and have to take a drug test?


I can understand this.


Elaborate that someone might put pot in food that they'll give to me and ruin my career?


Well it if was legal then this wouldn't be a problem.


Elaborate that people I've seen on drugs are violent or extremely annoying?


Have you ever been under the influence of marijuana? I have, and almost all of my friends, acquaintance, and family have. And most do it regularly. I have been exposed to a great deal of “high” individuals, and never before have I encountered an instance of violence associated with marijuana use. In fact, I would have to take the opposite view on this, and say that marijuana mellows, and subdues violent individuals.


Elaborate that most drug sellers don't care what they put in the drugs and that almost none of them are going to care about quality control if it means they make more money?


It it were legal, then it could be regulated by the market and therefor be required to meet the FDA's standards of safety.


Elaborate that marijuana depresses the immune system?


I'm quite healthy, and experience only mild lung irritation. I don't run short of breath easily and would go on to say that I'm actually quite physically active. Rock Climbing, cycling, hiking, basketball; these are all activities that my friends and I enjoy, often times under the influence of marijuana, with out any negative effects.


Elaborate that is can act as a gateway drug for youth?


This is a very important topic that I think we should discuss. You see, your seem to be under the impression that marijuana is a drug. Now, of course, we can both agree it is a 'drug' in the sense of the literal definition. However, I would have to say that compared cocaine, speed, xtc, heroin and other opiates, meth, crack, etc. Marijuana is not a drug. You see, children are under the influence that marijuana is equal in 'badness' as these other drugs. However, once they try marijuana and discern for themselves it there are no adverse effects to there health or mental state, they start to question weather or not these other, “dangerous” drugs aren't also benign. Of course, they are not benign, and thus, we can conclude that if marijuana was decriminalize or legalized completely the association would disappear. In conclusion, marijuana is not a gateway drug.


Elaborate that it can impair youth mental development and lead to a less-than-splendid generation?


I have been smoking marijuana regularly since the age of 11. Though we may disagree, surly you wouldn't claim that I'm mentally impaired? (don't mean to sound arrogant here)


Elaborate that people who do marijuana and drive are less able to respond to the need to make sudden decisions, potentially ruining the lives of entire families?


I never said that one should drive under the influence of Marijuana. Of course, other LEGAL drugs become criminal if the person drives. Alcohol for example.

[Archduke Robert of France]

Well I typed this out and then saw you added your own response. So please forgive me if some of what you point out is conflicting. I omited some questions because I have to leave soon.

Elaborate that I don't want to smell like pot when I got to work and have to take a drug test?

If cannabis were to be legalized, then I’m sure they would be as common as smokers are today. They would be smoking in restaurants, on street corners and their smoke would invade every corner of my house. I recently had the misfortune of passing nearby an area where people were smoking. A significant amount of time later, I smelled the clothes that I had worn on that day and it smelled like drugs. At the hotel where I work, that would be more than enough cause to warrant a drug test, if not an immediate termination.

Elaborate that someone might put pot in food that they'll give to me and ruin my career?

Frankly, I’m sure this occurs a lot more often than people think. Some people seem to think that it’s “funny” and part of the “burst of creativity” associated with the use of that particular drug. So I take a brownie from a friend and suddenly I’m feeling very strange. Not too long later, time for a random drug test! I didn’t know I had consumed drugs (since I’ve never done them, and never will). Suddenly I’m faced with a meeting with the Executive Chef, General Manager and everyone else. Do you honestly think they’ll buy the excuse of, “I don’t know what happened?”

Elaborate that most drug sellers don't care what they put in the drugs and that almost none of them are going to care about quality control if it means they make more money?

I’m certain that dealers of marijuana aren’t going to adopt a “100% organic, 100% safe” approach to selling drugs. With millions of dollars now being spent on drugs, the familiar bane of greed is certain to take hold of the hearts of many. Suddenly, they’re putting in chemicals not normally found in marijuana, potentially more harmful products. Now we have teens dying across the board because of the deadly chemicals put in the product that they are selling.

Elaborate that marijuana depresses the immune system?

I can see how this could be a good thing in certain MEDICAL situation. I’m willing to concede that medical marijuana, as long as it’s used for legitimate purposes, can be beneficial. But people who are doing it for fun will have their immune systems depressed. Since marijuana increases libido, they’ll have more sex. STDs will become more of an epidemic than they are now and AIDS and HIV will be diagnosed in more people.

Elaborate that is can act as a gateway drug for youth?

Although it MIGHT not be addictive (although I honestly think it is), youth who do it and get away without ill effects will be more likely to do other drugs. “Hey, I did marijuana without any problems, surely I can try LSD, amphetamines and every other drug there is without any ill effects!”

Elaborate that people who do marijuana and drive are less able to respond to the need to make sudden decisions, potentially ruining the lives of entire families?

Accidents happen, and cannabis reduces one’s motor skills. If a person who just did marijuana got in a car, and was following another car, which was following another car. The first car crashes into another car (probably because of marijuana), the second car breaks. However, the last car containing the person who just used drugs is in a haze. All they see is a red light. They push down on the pedal and, shockingly, they didn’t do it fast enough (and / or they hit the clutch or even the gas) and slam into the car in front. People die, lives are ruined.

[kolte]

well, I'll let you reiterate at a different time, since I answered those questions. But if you want a deeper explanation, sourced facts and things of that nature, I don't mind. I'm here to try and relieve what I consider misunderstandings associated with fear and feed by lies from governments *particularly the justice department* because of great deals of money to be made if its illegal.

And I don't know about you. But I've had to many family member alienated by the police, as well as myself, for what I consider a harmless plant. Can you understand my distress? I great friend of mine has now been in jail for 2 years, though he will be released shortly. Was he harming society? no. Its no different then tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, etc.

[Archduke Robert of France]

Well, I'll let you reiterate at a different time, since I answered those questions. But if you want a deeper explanation, sourced facts and things of that nature, I don't mind. I'm here to try and relieve what I consider misunderstandings associated with fear and feed by lies from governments *particularly the justice department* because of great deals of money to be made if it’s illegal.

Frankly, I’m getting the impression that you think that the government is in on some big conspiracy. I have a cautious faith in the government. They banned lead from paint because it’s harmful, even though extracting titanium dioxide is more costly. If they ban something, they usually have a good reason for it.

And I don't know about you. But I've had too many family member alienated by the police, as well as myself, for what I consider a harmless plant. Can you understand my distress? I great friend of mine has now been in jail for 2 years, though he will be released shortly. Was he harming society? No. Its no different then tobacco, alcohol, caffeine, etc.

As for this, I have to disagree. Just people one person proclaims that “The Holocaust didn’t happen”, doesn’t mean “The Holocaust didn’t happen.” Was your friend harming society? I’m my opinion, yes. Do you think that money he spent on drugs is going to an “All American Family”? No, it’s probably leaving the country to line the pockets of a drug lord in Mexico. Was your friend being a productive member of society? I don’t think so. He decided to enter an unproductive state in which he was, well, unproductive. Although I didn’t think he should have been sent to prison, he knew what he was doing was wrong. He accepted responsibility for his actions the moment he took that hit.

[kolte]

It is the obligation of every American citizen to challenge laws when they feel they violate there civil liberties. All things are imperfect, including the government. I do not think there is a government conspiracy, I'm simply implying that the government has plenty motive to keep marijuana illegal. The department of justice is enjoying a magnificent budget to apprehend and try marijuana users, and most law makers oppose marijuana on moral and religious grounds instead of considering facts.

My friend was arrested for growing marijuana for personal use. However, it was concluded by the government that the 4 plants warranted possession with intent to sell, witch is not the truth. And I would ask you to reserve your judgments.

Define productive member of society. I am an anarchist communist. What is productive to society in my view, and what is productive to society to you, I'm sure, are totally different things.

[Archduke Robert of France]

It is the obligation of every American citizen to challenge laws when they feel they violate there civil liberties. All things are imperfect, including the government. I do not think there is a government conspiracy; I'm simply implying that the government has plenty motive to keep marijuana illegal. The department of justice is enjoying a magnificent budget to apprehend and try marijuana users, and most law makers oppose marijuana on moral and religious grounds instead of considering facts.

I’m not objecting to your right to question laws and I certainly do not think the government is infallible. I am not sure that the Justice Department is keeping marijuana illegal just to burn money. Lawmakers also consider facts, although I am willing to admit that political and moral views do play roles.

My friend was arrested for growing marijuana for personal use. However, it was concluded by the government that the 4 plants warranted possession with intent to sell, witch is not the truth. And I would ask you to reserve your judgments.

Ok, but where did he get the seeds to germinate those marijuana plants come from? Although I don’t know how much marijuana those four plants of his would yield, I believe that it’s probable cause. Someone walking into a bank with a loaded shotgun, even though he told his friends he wouldn’t rob a bank, is probable cause to be arrested.

Define productive member of society. I am an anarchist communist. What is productive to society in my view, and what is productive to society to you, I'm sure, are totally different things.

I’m sure we can both agree that being a productive member of society means being productive. By doing marijuana and being impaired, I cannot function effectively at work. I cannot run machinery without losing a limb; I cannot function as a member of the government to make decisions. Unless being an Anarchist Communist means that everybody has free reign without ANY government controls whatsoever, I’m sure that my above conclusions would be reasonable.

[kolte]

Yes, but if marijuana was legal then people wouldn't have to get it illegally. It would literally stop the marijuana trade from Mexico. It would stimulate growth in the economy.( a projected 17 billion dollar industry.) Look at countries with relaxed marijuana laws. The Netherlands for example is a highly successful country and marijuana is a very widespread drug. America, by capitalist standards is also very successful, with an estimated 20 million + users. Its not likely that many people will suddenly start smoking marijuana just because its legalized. So there will be no more use then there is now.

[Archduke Robert of France]

Yes, but if marijuana was legal then people wouldn't have to get it illegally. It would literally stop the marijuana trade from Mexico. It would stimulate growth in the economy. (a projected 17 billion dollar industry.) Look at countries with relaxed marijuana laws. The Netherlands for example is a highly successful country and marijuana is a very widespread drug. America, by capitalist standards is also very successful, with an estimated 20 million + users. It’s not likely that many people will suddenly start smoking marijuana just because it’s legalized. So there will be no more use then there is now.

I doubt it would “literally stop the marijuana trade from Mexico.” If anything, we would just “legally” import it from them anyways since it would probably be cheaper to grow it outside the country than from within. Money would still be leaving the country.

Also, you cannot possibly compare America with Denmark. Both are completely different countries with different cultures, politics and problems. What worked for Denmark may not work for America.

As for your theory that the amount of users will stay the same, I have to disagree with that. If anything, that number will increase. People who wanted to “experiment” with the drug, but were afraid to do so because it was illegal will probably try it. The number of users will therefore increase.


I had a wonderful time debating with you, but unfortunately I must go. I look forward to further debate with you and seeing what other people have to say on this very controversial subject.

[kolte]

Yes but if the amount of users increased it wouldn't be a bad thing. Marijuana is not detrimental to your health. Of course smoke inhalation is harmful no matter what smoke it is, but marijuana doesn't have to be smoked. Marijuana is know to be one of the most benign substances know to science, and it is impossible to overdose. In fact, you would od on water sooner then you would OD on THC. And the Netherlands is not Denmark. They are neighboring countries. And though they differ greatly, I think it could be consider precedent to the legalization of marijuana. Its simply evidence that supports the case that marijuana does not harm society.

[Hyper]

Hmm I think it would be positive if it was legal everywhere..

Simply it would slowly remove the illusion that its just cool, atleast in the ''drug'' sense..

And I don't see people affected by alcohol being ''productive members of society'' but that doesn't matter if their doing it on their free time.. Meaning.. On what grounds did you bring that up? I doubt people would get jacked up in work time and if they did they'd be fired..

And smokes mess with your mind either way since they become mentally addictive. Ever seen a true smoke addict who hasn't smoked for a few days? They'll be as pissy as you can get and they will be fucking annoying..


And about the driving.. I actually saw an amateru test once where a dude under the effects of marijuana drove better than without it, while being compeltly sober..

Though I am not saying it should be legal for driving, things have slightly different effects on people.


I just think it would rather be positive to legalize it concerning the culture evolving around marijuana..

[thesphinx]

I am for legalizing medical marijuana, but no for recreational use. because people who are going through a hard time or are depressed or sad or whatever can use marijuana as a drug to cover up the emotions. and for that fact alone I don't see the need to completely legalize, except for Medical purposes.

[0=]

Using marijuana on a Saturday night with your buds when you could be getting drunk and destroying your liver makes you less productive? Marijuana users are typically going to use good judgment, just as alcohol users. It wouldn't be fun to be stoned all day every day, so why would legalization cause this? There's a time and place for everything, and people generally have enough common sense to know when to use a recreational substance.

As for the cost, I did a report on this subject for school a couple years ago, and here are some facts I gathered (these are tidbits from a seventh grade report, so some of the statistics may be higher now):


Enforcement of marijuana prohibition is very costly and time consuming. It costs between 10 billion and 12 billion dollars every year.

Prohibition has also led to the arrests of millions of Americans.

45% of all drug arrests are for marijuana. Over 30,000 people are in prison for marijuana use, growing, possession, or selling.


Now, benefits anyone?:


It can be used to relieve pain and headaches, and has even been shown to help with asthma and epilepsy.

The hemp plant can be used to make paper, rope, and clothing, and grows easily.

Over 4 billion trees are used annually worldwide to make paper, that’s 35% of all the trees that are cut down. Using marijuana for this purpose would reduce deforestation.


The reason it's illegal:


It’s all about money, if marijuana were legalized it could not be regulated and taxed easily, and would take away from the sales of acetaminophen (Tylenol), ibuprofen (Advil), acetylsalicylic acid (Aspirin), caffeine pills, and anxiety drugs.

[need_of_help]

Before you say marijuana has no negative affect read this
http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/marijuana.html
please people do more research before you claim a drug isn't dangerous it took me two seconds to find this

[0=]

Congratulations, you found a government website. The government is biased in its review of the drug as it is prohibited. Pretty much every negative effect on that site has been contradicted. No independent study has shown marijuana to have long-term effects, other than possible ash in the lungs, which is true of anything that is smoked.

[need_of_help]

Here's a study done by University of Iowa
http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2000/E/200004545.html
no gov besides your 14 i'm 17 just about everyone in my family except me smokes marijuana and i see how it affects them. All of them that smoke and are still in school are failing out or have failed already, all of them are having more trouble with their short term memory, and all of them are starting to show other negative affects i choose not to smoke because how they act but i do believe that certain people could benefit from marijuana just not me or my family

[Whisper]

Congratulations, you found a government website. The government is biased in its review of the drug as it is prohibited. Pretty much every negative effect on that site has been contradicted. No independent study has shown marijuana to have long-term effects, other than possible ash in the lungs, which is true of anything that is smoked.

which can be avoided simply by using a vapour instead


I still dont see how its worse the liquor or ciggs

[need_of_help]

liquor and cigs are worse but just about everyone who does smoke marijuana also drinks or smokes

[Whisper]

liquor and cigs are worse but just about everyone who does smoke marijuana also drinks or smokes
You're point?

out of the three its still the least dangerous and the only one thats not chemically addictive

[0=]

besides your 14 i'm 17

That's nice. Apparently I also have a better mastery of the English language. You really should not bring age into a debate, as it merely makes you look desperate.

[thesphinx]

But my question is why do you feel the need to smoke marijuana ?

[0=]

It's relaxing, fun, and nowhere near as harmful as alcohol.

I agree that marijuana should not be smoked all the time. While under its effects your ability to form memories is impaired, therefore it would make you fail in school, but only if you go to school stoned.

[thesphinx]

I'm not trying to compare marijuana to alcohol I have no doubt that alcohol is more harmful. Usually when someone is using a drug to "relax" or have "fun" they are trying to get away from something they don't want to deal with be it stress,pain,whatever. So when you say "relaxing" define that.

[0=]

It's the same as listening to music or eating a sweet snack. It feels good and relieves the stress inherent to modern life.

[kolte]

Well, I'm not in school anymore, so what I do on my own time shouldn't be the business of anyone else. America is defied by the promise that each citizen is alowed to do whatever they want as long as what they do doesn't effect the rights of other people. Enlighten me as to how smoking marijuana effects any body's rights?

[thesphinx]

it would effect a lot of people. do you know how many kids would show up to school high?

[need_of_help]

That's nice. Apparently I also have a better mastery of the English language. You really should not bring age into a debate, as it merely makes you look desperate.

Actually I do have an impressive mastery of the English language i just choose not to use it so everyone can understand what I am writing and if you read the rest of it you would have noticed that I was merely pointing out that I have a longer experience around marijuana I wasn't saying just because your fourteen you don't know. Now back on subject marijuana is mainly a gateway drug leading to other more harmful drugs like cocaine, methamphetamine's, and other more harmful drugs including cigs and alchohol and if you don't belive me ask anyone who has been smoking marijuana for years if they do or have ever done any other drugs.

[Whisper]

Okay going from pot to other drugs does happen
but you don't jump from pot to meth, that just....ya from like Pot to shrooms or special K ya I can see that but nothing like Meth or cocaine

But again why should everyone be punished and forbidden to use it because they might one day decide to try something stronger
thats like banning people from ever driving because the more they become comfortable in the vehicle the higher the risk of speeding!!

[R_master]

personally i'm fine with current marijuana laws. i would rather be able to grab the bud i can now instead of paying triple the price at a gas station for sub par thc content.

although from a medical perspective it should be completely legal in all ways for those who need it

and if it did become legal it would be treated exactly the same as alcohol/cigarettes. there would be no chaos and smoking in public places like some of you are thinking.

[need_of_help]

Okay going from pot to other drugs does happen
but you don't jump from pot to meth, that just....ya from like Pot to shrooms or special K ya I can see that but nothing like Meth or cocaine

But again why should everyone be punished and forbidden to use it because they might one day decide to try something stronger
thats like banning people from ever driving because the more they become comfortable in the vehicle the higher the risk of speeding!!

some places its easier to get cocaine and meth instead of shrooms and special k and i don't have a problem with smoking for medical reasons its just when you do it just to fit in or you do it around people who don't like it to me marijuana is just as bad as cigarettes because i hate smoke but for nerves and stuff like that then light up but don't pass it for someone who just wants to get high

[Mannequin]

it would effect a lot of people. do you know how many kids would show up to school high?

Not really,the people that really want to o pot have already done it. It's the same kids that would do it if it was legalized. In fact, pot wouldn't even be so cool anymore if it were so common (although it really is)

[Whisper]

some places its easier to get cocaine and meth instead of shrooms and special k and i don't have a problem with smoking for medical reasons its just when you do it just to fit in or you do it around people who don't like it to me marijuana is just as bad as cigarettes because i hate smoke but for nerves and stuff like that then light up but don't pass it for someone who just wants to get high

Okay I was born and spent a good half my life on Vancouver Island Pot has been planted in the woods there so many times that it now just kinda grows in areas if you know what to look for
I was born in what at the time was the drug capital of Canada BC still supplies over 40% of canadas pot

I now live in Alberta where Meth and cocaine are extremely easy to get a hold of because of the oil boom ALLOT of money in the hands of the youngest population in Canada

I know allot about drugs

and EVERYONE that smokes pot dosent just wake up one day and go hmmmm pot...meth hmmmm
no it does NOT happen
Yes I'm sure there is a small percentage of people that will try it and get hooked on harder drugs
but don't let a VERY tiny minority decide your actions for the majority
okay

Theres nothing wrong with pot
I've been around it my entire life
I've only smoked twice
it doesn't interest me
I like hard liquor
that doesn't mean pots evil

[thesphinx]

well I still take my stance that it is not needed by the general public. for the people who need it im all for it. but for people just looking for a way to relax, or have fun I just don't think it is necessary

[kolte]

http://www.mpp.org/site/c.glKZLeMQIsG/b.1123895/

Check it out. Make sure your forming an educated opinion

[thesphinx]

http://www.mpp.org/site/c.glKZLeMQIsG/b.1123895/

Check it out. Make sure your forming an educated opinion

Your point? I have already said Medical marijuana can help a lot of people. the state I live in medical marijuana is Legal. as long as its prescribed by a doctor. So I am for Medical marijuana but thats it.

[kolte]

Your point? I have already said Medical marijuana can help a lot of people. the state I live in medical marijuana is Legal. as long as its prescribed by a doctor. So I am for Medical marijuana but thats it.

Oh your right I'm sorry. I forgot I was only debating you. :rolleyes:

[thesphinx]

lol its fine :P

[*Dissident*]

Havent read the whole thread, but here are my views:

I can give you several essay's worth of information on why Pot should be legal. All of them objective. you can give me a handful of reasons it shouldnt be, most of them subjective, an occasional few objective to the point of qualifying as a reason.

The plain and simple truth is that fear has caused weed and many other drugs from being legal. I could give you a conspiracy theory that I personally believe in, but just to save you time: dont listen to the shit people like DARE (which is funded by tobacco companies, I believe) and Above the Influence (Choose above the ignorance instead) say about Marijuana. And then ask yourself one question: is it really that dangerous? You will arrive at the conclusion that It is not. then consider this statement and question: "I do not wish to smoke or ingest Marijuana (or other drugs). Does this give me the right to say that you cannot do so, even if it does not have any negative effects on me?"

For marijuana (short of driving under the influence, which is still not nearly the same as driving drunk), it causes no third party harm. plain and simple.

So there.

[thesphinx]

And again I will say this, I've seen many a times when people smoke pot because of depression,anxiety or other mental illnesses that cause pain.

[0=]

So? I a lot of people drink or cut themselves. It's something you can't avoid.

[Hyper]

And again I will say this, I've seen many a times when people smoke pot because of depression,anxiety or other mental illnesses that cause pain.

Hmm illegalize sex, only make it allowed for producing offspring..

No more drinking, best outlaw driving too I know some fucked up ppl who like to drive when their depressed.. They might choose to slam themselves in a building so in overall lets just not allow anyone to drive, sober or not, under drugs or not.

Lets see what else to ban!... We should ban the free sale of food.. Just make it so people have to go to a certain facility to receive their daily consumption.. Cuz depressed ppl might eat too much :D and harm their health..

Well w/e.. That was hope you get the point. Your view on the issue is stupid, why do you only adapt that view on 1 ''thing'' instead of all of them?

[thesphinx]

What other view do you want me to take? that its "fun"?

[0=]

Yeah, pretty much.

[thesphinx]

ok it might be fun, but I think its more damaging then beneficial.
and would everyone stop comparing pot to alcohol!

[Hyper]

What I meant by my examples is.. That you take 1 thing that is possibly bad and ridicule that while ignoring the other ones..

EDIT: Hell drinking can be good and bad.. Many things are good but can be bad.. If you have such a ''moral'' then apply it to all of those things.

To consider, you couldn't do anything in life if you put that stamp on all the things that could be bad for you.

[0=]

Chocolate can be bad for you. Let's outlaw that. Hamburgers are bad. Outlawed. Ice cream? Outlawed. Don't like it? Too bad. Some people might damage their own bodies with those things.

[thesphinx]

All I'm saying is I don't think its necessary, neither is drinking, chocolate, cigarettes, sugar, and heck a lot of things. but thats not my point.
EDIT: Heck maybe we need to make it legal just so people will realize what a waste it is. I just can't stand the thought of my friends just sitting around smoking all day though it would be such a waste of time.

[0=]

Just because a few people would abuse it doesn't mean you can't legalize it for legitimate purposes. You can't outlaw something just because a few people might harm themselves.

[thesphinx]

Well I've said what I wanted to say and no one here really understands my opinion on it so I'm going to leave it at that.

[0=]

Agreement and understanding are different things.

[A.J.]

I think being high off from marijuana is just like being drunk. Marijuana isnt addictive, and its less harmful from smoking cigerettes. I think it should be legal

[*Dissident*]

definatly not like being drunk. To me at least, being drunk sucks. I get nauseous and tipsy and sad, unless im at a party or something. being high is completely different. its like your floating and everything is awesome.