View Full Version : West Fertilizer Plant, terrorism or accident
TheBigUnit
April 18th, 2013, 07:14 PM
Hey just wanted to know what you guys think
Was this explosion done purposely or accidentally?
At first (this morning) I firmly believed this was an accident because of the ingredients used in fertilizer such as ammonia nitrate is a major explosive used actually in some bombs, basically I thought it was a fire in a fireworks shop were everything explodes
As for the reasons why I'm starting to believe this was done on purpose, on google maps a comment was posted calling for destruction and ashes pretty creepy right?
.........By the way did I mention tomorrow is the 20th anniv. Of the Waco Massacre...
PinkFloyd
April 18th, 2013, 07:20 PM
I think it was an accident because what terrorist would target a rural place likr that? I mean look back at all the other major terrorist attacks. Government building explosion in Oklahoma City in 1995, 9/11, 2001 which were obviously 2 very tall buildings and the pentagon being hit by commercial jets. How about the bomb that went off at a security checkpoint last July in an airport in Baghdad, Iraq? My point is that there is no reason for a rural place in Texas to be targeted. A crowded place in Boston fits better...
TheBigUnit
April 18th, 2013, 07:26 PM
Its really close to the Waco massacre site
TheBassoonist
April 18th, 2013, 07:37 PM
Fertilizer is essentially an explosive. The components used to make fertilizer are explosives, at least. If something happened inside the plant, like an electrical spark, and landed on something flammable, you get an explosion. I don't think it was a terrorist attack. It's not a very sensible target. Most likely just an accident.
TheBigUnit
April 18th, 2013, 07:38 PM
Fertilizer is essentially an explosive. The components used to make fertilizer are explosives, at least. If something happened inside the plant, like an electrical spark, and landed on something flammable, you get an explosion. I don't think it was a terrorist attack. It's not a very sensible target. Most likely just an accident.
Define sensible
Sugaree
April 18th, 2013, 07:46 PM
I think it was an accident because what terrorist would target a rural place likr that?
Because they can. It doesn't matter if its in a big city or small town, they can hit us where ever they damn well want.
Bethany
April 18th, 2013, 07:55 PM
I am leaning towards it being a terrorist attack because of the comment on google maps and the fact that tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of the end of Waco. Oklahoma City, Columbine - all were intentionally scheduled around April 19th. It doesn't seem too far-fetched to me.
Sugaree
April 18th, 2013, 08:00 PM
I am leaning towards it being a terrorist attack because of the comment on google maps and the fact that tomorrow is the 20th anniversary of the end of Waco. Oklahoma City, Columbine - all were intentionally scheduled around April 19th. It doesn't seem too far-fetched to me.
The Waco siege ended on April 19th, not April 17th when the explosion occurred. Face it, there's no evidence to call this a terrorist attack other than speculation.
Bethany
April 18th, 2013, 08:04 PM
The Waco siege ended on April 19th, not April 17th when the explosion occurred. Face it, there's no evidence to call this a terrorist attack other than speculation.
The Waco siege was ongoing though, and it's close. It's a weird time coincidence.
There's no reason to call it not a terrorist attack - the cause is still unknown. It seems good to stay open-minded towards various possibilities at this point.
Southside
April 18th, 2013, 08:04 PM
Accident..A small Texas town of 2000 people isnt the most "ideal" place for terrorism dont you think?
Sugaree
April 18th, 2013, 08:08 PM
The Waco siege was ongoing though, and it's close. It's a weird time coincidence.
There's no reason to call it not a terrorist attack - the cause is still unknown. It seems good to stay open-minded towards various possibilities at this point.
No. No it is NOT good to stay open-minded for this. With any type of investigation, you can't claim to be open-minded and then label it a POSSIBLE terrorist attack. It makes no sense for a terrorist, domestic or foreign, to set fire to a fertilizer plant. Fertilizer itself is an explosive material; for all we know, it might have been set off by a lit cigarette.
On top of that, saying you need to be open-minded to various possibilities is just ridiculous. That's like having a gas line explosion and then say someone was making bombs. Open-mindedness has nothing to do with this, and until the authorities are able to start scouting the scene, we shouldn't be speculating.
PinkFloyd
April 18th, 2013, 08:08 PM
Because they can. It doesn't matter if its in a big city or small town, they can hit us where ever they damn well want.
Yeah... I see how that works. It's really too bad it's like this.
Bethany
April 18th, 2013, 08:14 PM
No. No it is NOT good to stay open-minded for this. With any type of investigation, you can't claim to be open-minded and then label it a POSSIBLE terrorist attack. It makes no sense for a terrorist, domestic or foreign, to set fire to a fertilizer plant. Fertilizer itself is an explosive material; for all we know, it might have been set off by a lit cigarette.
On top of that, saying you need to be open-minded to various possibilities is just ridiculous. That's like having a gas line explosion and then say someone was making bombs. Open-mindedness has nothing to do with this, and until the authorities are able to start scouting the scene, we shouldn't be speculating.
But we don't know the cause yet. You can't shut the door to various possibilities so early, especially considering the interesting circumstances. You have to consider different possibilities - is it worse to consider terrorism and crime at first and be wrong or to never consider crime or terrorism and find out years later that it WAS crime or terrorism (and the offender never be caught)?
It could be an accident. It could be arson. It could be terrorism. We don't know yet.
xmojox
April 18th, 2013, 09:46 PM
As of now it was an explosion in a fertilizer plant. Until the investigation is complete that's all it will be. The Feds are really good at figuring this stuff out, I'm sure they will. It's easy to speculate terrorism in light of the date, the location, and the bombing in Boston. I'm gonna wait and see.
TheBigUnit
April 18th, 2013, 09:53 PM
Accident..A small Texas town of 2000 people isnt the most "ideal" place for terrorism dont you think?
I think Fisk already explained why it maybe possible
It is speculation but extremely ironic, tht comment a week before, and the Waco 20th anniv and a fertilizer fire few miles down, to tell you the truth in this particular circumstance they both have the same chances of happening, its just as likely terrorism as an accident but really weird
Hopefully this doesn't encourage other idiots out there
Taryn98
April 18th, 2013, 10:13 PM
It sounds like an accident from what I've read. But you never know, it's been a scary couple of weeks.
Southside
April 18th, 2013, 10:16 PM
I think Fisk already explained why it maybe possible
It is speculation but extremely ironic, tht comment a week before, and the Waco 20th anniv and a fertilizer fire few miles down, to tell you the truth in this particular circumstance they both have the same chances of happening, its just as likely terrorism as an accident but really weird
Hopefully this doesn't encourage other idiots out there
How is it "just as likely terrorism"? Honestly, if your were a terrorist would you strike in the middle of rural Texas or some big metropolis like Boston or NYC? In this post 9/11 world people speculate terrorism on every, some things are truly just accidents...
TheBigUnit
April 18th, 2013, 10:24 PM
How is it "just as likely terrorism"? Honestly, if your were a terrorist would you strike in the middle of rural Texas or some big metropolis like Boston or NYC? In this post 9/11 world people speculate terrorism on every, some things are truly just accidents...
Well if you really want to go there, the Sandy Hook shooting happened in middle of nowhere conneticut, you re right now thinking about a terrorist who goal is to kill as many people possible, this one if it is related to Waco, is for revenge,
Also if it was terrorism, most criminal first start in places they are more comfortable in
Southside
April 18th, 2013, 11:44 PM
Well if you really want to go there, the Sandy Hook shooting happened in middle of nowhere conneticut, you re right now thinking about a terrorist who goal is to kill as many people possible, this one if it is related to Waco, is for revenge,
Also if it was terrorism, most criminal first start in places they are more comfortable in
You just said it "to kill as many people possible". Where would a terrorist be most sucessful in killing as many people as possible, rural Texas or a urban metropolis?
Ryhanna
April 19th, 2013, 12:04 AM
Accident. A terrible accident, yes, but I see no reason to believe it was an intentional act of malice.
TheBigUnit
April 19th, 2013, 05:59 AM
You just said it "to kill as many people possible". Where would a terrorist be most sucessful in killing as many people as possible, rural Texas or a urban metropolis?
Its not just that, half the county apparently worked there and if it means anything, for some reason they built a high school and a middle school right next to a toxic fertilizer plant, if this was terrorism tht suspect put it there for a reason
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