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BebeFleur.
April 18th, 2013, 03:18 PM
I'm really sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I didn't know where to put it.

So anyways, me and a group of my friends were talking. We are the "weaker" girls, the ones that would probably be publicly attacked/kidnapped more than others. So we were thinking about defense. You know, ever since 2nd grade we all get the "scream as loud as you can, kick, run, and don't take candy from strangers" talk/video. Anywho, we were thinking about mainly attacks from men. We know that either men or women can both attack someone, but we are mainly focused on men. We would obviously scream and fight and kick, but we (of course, thinking about every possible solution) came up with some questions. Please do not make fun of our questions or whatnot, we were never really taught. All they told us was "kick and run", literally.

So if we were to kick (a man) in the groin area:
>Is that truly a very sensitive area and a good place to hit?
>So, sometimes we have heard to kick, sometimes we have heard to knee him. Which should we do? I mean, wouldn't kneeing him just bring him closer to our bodies and make it easier for him to grab us?
>What if he wears a jock strap?
>It is the penis, testicles, or just the general area that is sensitive and reacts with the extreme pain?
>Would he double over, or what?

Other information on defense you would like to add? (Either gender)

Left Now
April 18th, 2013, 03:23 PM
Men are not as sensitive as you are thinking about certain places...I myself am a good example..But of course will never to something like this...But one of the man's weaknesses is their armpit...Carry a piece of not really short staff with yourself to hit there in the first chance you get...hit it really hard!

BebeFleur.
April 18th, 2013, 03:31 PM
Okay, thank you! That is...very interesting, lol.

Left Now
April 18th, 2013, 03:34 PM
Your welcome

CptZaph
April 18th, 2013, 04:12 PM
In most cases, a man's testicles are the most sensitive part of his body. Kicking his dick hurts too, but not nearly as much as his testicles. Some men are very pain tolerant, so it won't always be effective. But 9 times out of 10 it'll usually make him keel over, if only for one second; Plenty of time for you to sprint the other direction.

Your knee is a lot more solid than your foot, so naturally, it would hurt more. Plus, kicking his groin with your foot leaves your leg extended and vulnerable; They can grab your leg, and once they do that, they have total control.

Not everybody reacts the same to a blow to the balls though, and anyone intent on attacking you isn't exactly the average man. Always have a backup plan, and avoid getting close enough to knee him in the balls if you can help it.

Left Now
April 18th, 2013, 04:19 PM
Chris also gave good ideas...thanks friend

BebeFleur.
April 18th, 2013, 04:32 PM
Thank you, Chris! That is the type of information I was looking for. :)

Left Now
April 18th, 2013, 04:33 PM
I hope it never happens to you Delaney

CptZaph
April 18th, 2013, 04:54 PM
Anytime :) Hopefully you'll never need that advice.

Gwen
April 18th, 2013, 06:12 PM
In between you leg, like the opposite of you knee is a soft point, kick that and they fall to their knees.
Also it's best to travel in groups wherever you go, they don't go for groups 99 times out of 100.

TheBigUnit
April 18th, 2013, 06:33 PM
I'm really sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I didn't know where to put it.

So if we were to kick (a man) in the groin area:
>Is that truly a very sensitive area and a good place to hit?
>So, sometimes we have heard to kick, sometimes we have heard to knee him. Which should we do? I mean, wouldn't kneeing him just bring him closer to our bodies and make it easier for him to grab us?
>What if he wears a jock strap?
>It is the penis, testicles, or just the general area that is sensitive and reacts with the extreme pain?
>Would he double over, or what?

Other information on defense you would like to add? (Either gender)

In my opinion it depends on the type of guy ur faced with, most guys who kidnapp prob has a gun or knife. he would be retarded if he didnt, also it depends on his size if he's "not at all strong" or "avg/muscular"

I don't recommend kicking him straight away in the balls cuz it won't be like the movies where he ll pass out, I think u should find the right time to kick there don't think too much tho and do it fast bc he could just catch ur leg and it will be all over after tht,

If he's fat punch him in the gut cuz he will already have less muscle there and also bc fat on his thighs will block you

If the guy does bend over (and if he isn't muscular) maybe you should chop both sides of his neck at the same time bc of all the arteries you could knock him out

Really I recommend you ust carry pepper spray if your worried, and aim straight for his eyes there's no stopping tht

Anyway thts all I can think of right now....btw most men don't wear cups way too uncomfortable

The LOLer
April 18th, 2013, 06:44 PM
If your gonna attack a guy then you better be attacking where it hurts. Generally the whole groin area hurts really bad. But if you want some major damage get him in the balls (testicles).

So once you kick him in the stuff, RUN! The pain will give you enough time to make a run for it.Go to the nearest house, you don't care if a space alien lives there. Stay until the police arrive.

Horatio Nelson
April 18th, 2013, 06:47 PM
A solid blow to the groin would make most men double over. Kneeing hurts a heck of a lot more than being kicked. While he is bent over in pain best thing is an elbow right down the neck, although I'd recommend running, running is your best bet. A large heavy man would never be able to catch a small girl if she knew where to go.

Cygnus
April 18th, 2013, 07:36 PM
There are certain things that would give you victory in a fight, I know a martial arts technique where, with enough distance and strength you can reach for their neck and rip their trachea out, but I believe killing is not your intention. A solid press in their jugular should weaken them more than enough for you to either run or finish him since your pressure lowers and you do not feel good at all. If you have distance use your knee and give a solid strike to either the testicles or stomach. A sideways strike using your elbow to the face can be enough to break their nose, you need little distance and strength to do that if performed right, just remember to use your body to add extra strength.

BebeFleur.
April 18th, 2013, 10:11 PM
Thank you all for your help. :)

And yes, I would not like to rip body parts of him...I'd rather run, lol.

TheBigUnit
April 18th, 2013, 10:20 PM
If u had to run, don't run to a house instead go to a store preferably a pub where big buzzed tough men have nothing better to do,

likemike
April 18th, 2013, 10:53 PM
Take a martial arts class hammering at a guys groin doesnt help if you cant capitalize on it

PinkFloyd
April 18th, 2013, 11:03 PM
>Is that truly a very sensitive area and a good place to hit? YES. It hurts A LOT. I know... I have experience...
>So, sometimes we have heard to kick, sometimes we have heard to knee him. Which should we do? I mean, wouldn't kneeing him just bring him closer to our bodies and make it easier for him to grab us? I would kick if I were you. I mean if you are about his height and weight within like 30 pounds, then you can smash his face into your knee.
>What if he wears a jock strap? go for the face.
>It is the penis, testicles, or just the general area that is sensitive and reacts with the extreme pain? Yes. Absolutely.
>Would he double over, or what? If the hit was powerful enough, he would fall onto his knees. This is where you deliver a devestating kick to the front of the face that will do some serious damage.

Other information on defense you would like to add? (Either gender)
Weapons are always good. I carry a knife and sometimes a handgun on me in case I get attacked. Well not in school for obvious reasons... If you can even get like a pocket knife, it;ll help a lot.

MAN: groin and face and windpipe
women: face and windpipe
If you can, get help. I mean shooting or stabbing someone is literally one of the last things I would do. Only try to fatally hurt someone if your life or someone else's life is in immediate danger.

Synyster Shadows
April 27th, 2013, 08:19 AM
>Is that truly a very sensitive area and a good place to hit? Yeah. Playing tennis once, I got hit in the groin and it hurt a lot
>So, sometimes we have heard to kick, sometimes we have heard to knee him. Which should we do? I mean, wouldn't kneeing him just bring him closer to our bodies and make it easier for him to grab us? Yeah, I'd personally kick him
>What if he wears a jock strap? Punch him in the face
>It is the penis, testicles, or just the general area that is sensitive and reacts with the extreme pain? the whole area
>Would he double over, or what? I know I did, when hit with that tennis ball. I collapsed in pain and couldn't move for a minute. a good kick will be just as, if not more, effective

Other information on defense you would like to add? (Either gender) learn about pressure points and use those to your advantage.

Atonement
April 27th, 2013, 08:57 AM
So if we were to kick (a man) in the groin area:
>Is that truly a very sensitive area and a good place to hit?
Yes. Not a good place to hit just like, playing around with friends, but if you're being assaulted, yes.
>So, sometimes we have heard to kick, sometimes we have heard to knee him. Which should we do? I mean, wouldn't kneeing him just bring him closer to our bodies and make it easier for him to grab us?
You do what you can. If you're too close, a kick won't do anything. Kneeing requires closer proximity. Kicking you can do from farther. Do whichever is feasible from your position in the moment. Really, do anything you can to make him let go so you can run.
>What if he wears a jock strap?
Correction: jock straps are just underwear. If he has a nut cup, he's well-prepared, I suppose. It's unlikely for that to be the truth. However, then I would suggest biting, scratching, hair pulling, everything to give him hell. Also, if he has a nut cup on, a good kick to the groin will still be unpleasant for him.
>It is the penis, testicles, or just the general area that is sensitive and reacts with the extreme pain?
Testicles are what hurt. Sure, a penis can hurt, but the nerves that are so sensitive to pain that they can make men vomit with relatively little force are located in the testicles. Aim between the legs, not into the pelvis.
>Would he double over, or what?
Probably. All depends on the man, the hit, and some other circumstances. Chances are that if you're being attacked by a common criminal, he won't be prepared and a good hit to the groin will distract him enough that you can run.
Other information on defense you would like to add? (Either gender)
Uh, actually. I'll share a piece of advice I learned at university. If you're ever actively being forceably raped remember the 3 -ates. Defecate, regurgitate, urinate. No one wants to have sex with someone covered in bodily waste. Do what it takes, I guess.

Stronk Serb
April 27th, 2013, 09:25 AM
Ok, I trained martial arts, this is applicable on both genders.Do not get closer, if he is in the 100% knee kick area, kick him with the knee, if he is farther, kick him with the foot. If he pins you on the ground, bury your pointing (the next finger after the thumb) and middle finger into his lower parts of the eye holes, try to do it so that it the finger enters the eye sockets, that is ought to make him see badly and in the middle of the struggle give you more control, and press upwards, or bury the aforementioned fingers into his eyes. He will focus more on shrugging your hand off his face then on continuing what he planned with you. A gentle touch on the eyeball hurts, but combined with nails, and agressive pushing, you can make him regret he messed with you because of the massive pain and probable bleeding of his eyeballs which will cause him to have even more problems with his eyesight.

norcaldude18
April 27th, 2013, 04:20 PM
>Is that truly a very sensitive area and a good place to hit? YES. It hurts A LOT. I know... I have experience...
>So, sometimes we have heard to kick, sometimes we have heard to knee him. Which should we do? I mean, wouldn't kneeing him just bring him closer to our bodies and make it easier for him to grab us? I would kick if I were you. I mean if you are about his height and weight within like 30 pounds, then you can smash his face into your knee.
>What if he wears a jock strap? go for the face.
>It is the penis, testicles, or just the general area that is sensitive and reacts with the extreme pain? Yes. Absolutely.
>Would he double over, or what? If the hit was powerful enough, he would fall onto his knees. This is where you deliver a devestating kick to the front of the face that will do some serious damage.

Other information on defense you would like to add? (Either gender)
Weapons are always good. I carry a knife and sometimes a handgun on me in case I get attacked. Well not in school for obvious reasons... If you can even get like a pocket knife, it;ll help a lot.

MAN: groin and face and windpipe
women: face and windpipe
If you can, get help. I mean shooting or stabbing someone is literally one of the last things I would do. Only try to fatally hurt someone if your life or someone else's life is in immediate danger.

Why the fuck are you carrying a handgun? Do you know how illegal and dangerous that is?

PinkFloyd
April 27th, 2013, 06:09 PM
Why the fuck are you carrying a handgun? Do you know how illegal and dangerous that is?

I don't carry it everywhere. As you said, that is stupid and dangerous. I have it with me when I am done with my shift at work and I have to walk 2 miles home in dark places with an infamous crime rate at like 11 PM. Sorry, I know that came across wrong...

nice
April 27th, 2013, 10:50 PM
Ever guy has a different tolerance to pain when it comes to being hit there but yeah it's the balls that cause the most pain so hit him there as hard as you can and sprint like hell.

norcaldude18
April 28th, 2013, 03:44 AM
I don't carry it everywhere. As you said, that is stupid and dangerous. I have it with me when I am done with my shift at work and I have to walk 2 miles home in dark places with an infamous crime rate at like 11 PM. Sorry, I know that came across wrong...

Even if you are only carrying it 2 miles from work to home, you shouldn't do it. It's not work it. Who's gun is it? How often do you go to the range and shoot? Just to let you know, if you get caught with that handgun, you're going to be in big trouble. It's not worth it.

PinkFloyd
April 28th, 2013, 04:07 AM
Even if you are only carrying it 2 miles from work to home, you shouldn't do it. It's not work it. Who's gun is it? How often do you go to the range and shoot? Just to let you know, if you get caught with that handgun, you're going to be in big trouble. It's not worth it.

Yeah, I guess you do have a point. I have told my boss, and she's okay with it; but nonetheless, it is still against the law because I don't have a CC licence. I must tell you that it is my gun. I paid for it, and my parents approved of me having it as my own. I go to the range when I can. That means 2-5 times a month.

norcaldude18
April 28th, 2013, 04:26 AM
Yeah, I guess you do have a point. I have told my boss, and she's okay with it; but nonetheless, it is still against the law because I don't have a CC licence. I must tell you that it is my gun. I paid for it, and my parents approved of me having it as my own. I go to the range when I can. That means 2-5 times a month.

Oh okay, so you're carrying your parents gun. Not only will you get in trouble, but so will they. I'm pro-gun, pro-carry, but it's very irresponsible for a parent to let their 15 year old son carry a gun off their property. You are not old enough to be able to handle the stress of everything going on in a situation where you would need to identify, draw, aim, and shoot. If you do continue to carry which I hope you don't, make sure you have the gun holstered and a shirt covering it when you practice drawing it and shooting at the range so you get comfortable and quick with the motions like in a real life situation.

Harry Smith
April 28th, 2013, 04:29 AM
Oh okay, so you're carrying your parents gun. Not only will you get in trouble, but so will they. I'm pro-gun, pro-carry, but it's very irresponsible for a parent to let their 15 year old son carry a gun off their property. You are not old enough to be able to handle the stress of everything going on in a situation where you would need to identify, draw, aim, and shoot. If you do continue to carry which I hope you don't, make sure you have the gun holstered and a shirt covering it when you practice drawing it and shooting at the range so you get comfortable and quick with the motions like in a real life situation.

Calm down, as rob said he takes it to the range to shot and his parents approve of it.

PinkFloyd
April 28th, 2013, 04:32 AM
Oh okay, so you're carrying your parents gun. Not only will you get in trouble, but so will they. I'm pro-gun, pro-carry, but it's very irresponsible for a parent to let their 15 year old son carry a gun off their property. You are not old enough to be able to handle the stress of everything going on in a situation where you would need to identify, draw, aim, and shoot. If you do continue to carry which I hope you don't, make sure you have the gun holstered and a shirt covering it when you practice drawing it and shooting at the range so you get comfortable and quick with the motions like in a real life situation.

I think you're right, man. The fact that I'm walking through a really sketchy neighborhood still remains though... The whole reason I started carrying was because I got mugged walking through there at night.

norcaldude18
April 28th, 2013, 04:34 AM
Calm down, as rob said he takes it to the range to shot and his parents approve of it.

So you think that makes him qualified to carry? Cause he goes to the range and his parents said okay. Have you ever shot a gun yourself?

norcaldude18
April 28th, 2013, 04:37 AM
I think you're right, man. The fact that I'm walking through a really sketchy neighborhood still remains though... The whole reason I started carrying was because I got mugged walking through there at night.

Have your parents buy you a stun gun, taser, and/or pepper spray. all of those are totally legal for you to carry.

Harry Smith
April 28th, 2013, 05:25 AM
So you think that makes him qualified to carry? Cause he goes to the range and his parents said okay. Have you ever shot a gun yourself?

Yes I have, I've shot an air pistol, an air rifle and a 12 bore shotgun.

PinkFloyd
April 28th, 2013, 01:04 PM
Have your parents buy you a stun gun, taser, and/or pepper spray. all of those are totally legal for you to carry.

Wow, do I feel stupid... I never thought of a stun gun.

norcaldude18
April 28th, 2013, 03:59 PM
Wow, do I feel stupid... I never thought of a stun gun.

Don't feel stupid! I actually tried doing some research about legal age to carry a stun gun in minnesota, and it looks like it also may be illegal for people under 17, but I'm not positive. I would have your parents call the local police department to find out for sure. If they say it is illegal, have your parents ask them what they recommend you carry on your walk home from work. They will know more than I do about the legality of things.

norcaldude18
April 28th, 2013, 04:16 PM
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norcaldude18
April 28th, 2013, 04:28 PM
Yes I have, I've shot an air pistol, an air rifle and a 12 bore shotgun.

Is an air pistol and rifle like a pellet gun then? If so, it not the same thing as a real gun. If he decides to keep carrying, that's up to him and I can't do anything about it. But it's a lot different going to the range in a controlled environment where you are relaxed, opposed to what goes on in a real life situation. If he was ever in that situation, he would have so much adrenaline pumping, he wouldn't be thinking straight, he would lose control of his fine motor skills, and simple things like drawing his gun, remembering if the safety is off, and pulling the trigger would be harder to do. And what happens if the guy goes for his gun first? Or if rob thinks the man was going for a gun but he ends up killing an unarmed man, then he goes away for a long time. I'm just saying he's too young to be carrying a handgun, that's a huge responsibility for someone so young.

PinkFloyd
April 28th, 2013, 05:54 PM
Don't feel stupid! I actually tried doing some research about legal age to carry a stun gun in minnesota, and it looks like it also may be illegal for people under 17, but I'm not positive. I would have your parents call the local police department to find out for sure. If they say it is illegal, have your parents ask them what they recommend you carry on your walk home from work. They will know more than I do about the legality of things.

I could also just carry a knife too.