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HunterSteele
April 4th, 2013, 03:20 AM
Hey everyone. There’s something I’ve been really upset about lately and I wanted to tell you guys to see what you think. This one is pretty long, since it’s a real mess and I wanted to explain things clearly and in detail so you would all understand what’s happening. I thought some of you might be able to help, but it may be a bit late for that so I just wanted to tell someone about it.

The story starts back in 2006. I had just moved to a new city with my mom after she broke up with my dad and was starting grade 4 at a new school. Back then, I wasn’t so self-conscious and felt free to talk to anyone I met at school who I liked. It wasn’t long before I met Cody, a boy in the grade below mine who seemed friendly, kind, and surely someone with who I could make friends.

I was wrong. Cody disliked me from the first time I talked to him. I wanted to play with him at recess time every day, but he didn’t want to. I never found out what I’d done since it was my first year at that school and I had never talked to him before that. But that didn’t stop me. I was determined to make friends at this school since I hadn’t had any at my old school.

My efforts didn’t become fruitful until four years later. It turns out I was right all along. Cody hadn’t hated me after all. He messaged me on Facebook one day in January 2010 and asked if I wanted to hang out and go geocaching together. By then, I was in high school and I’d long forgotten about him. But I remembered how much I had liked him in elementary school and was glad he didn’t dislike me for no reason anymore and we could finally be friends.

When you hear that I live in Canada, you might think we get so much snow we live in igloos and ride polar bears to get around. While that might be true for the rest of Canada, it sure isn’t the case in my little town of Vancouver. While the rest of BC and Canada basks in snow and its beautiful bright white glory ^_^, only a few snowflakes drift down to Vancouver each year. Sometimes the snowflakes stick and we get entire millimeters of snow.

My mom is highly protective of me. I get it, all mothers love their children and want to keep them safe. That’s normal, so I won’t fault her for that per se. Some parents are stricter than others. I get that too. The problem is my mom takes it quite far and she has an exceedingly bad temper. :evil2: If anything doesn’t fit her liking or she doesn’t get her way, she starts yelling, swearing, and name-calling without listening to any reasoning. :headbonk: She doesn’t feel comfortable letting me go out without her, and especially not with other kids. She doesn’t flat out say, “You must never talk to or make friends with other kids,” since even she realizes that would be ridiculous, but her body language does convey that fact. Up until now this had never been a problem since I’ve never had a close friend to hang out with outside of school. Ever. :hmm:

When Cody wanted to hang out with me, it became a problem for the first time in eight years. It was a problem because my mom didn’t want me to go out with Cody, but she didn’t have a good reason. Unfortunately, it just so happened there was a light dusting of snow on the ground outside at the time. She capitalized on the opportunity to use the millimeter or so of snow as an excuse to keep me from going, saying it was unsafe. I told her there was hardly any snow on the ground, but she didn’t care. She started yelling and screaming about how stupid I was to try to go out in the snow. The snow disappeared in less than 24 hours, but she still said no.

Later, she asked me for Cody’s phone number. I gave it to her and she wanted his address. I told her I didn’t have his address and that she’d have to wait until I got a chance to go to his house since it didn’t seem fitting for me to just ask him out of the blue. I explained as I got to know him better over time I’d learn more about him, but it would take time. She started yelling at me for going out with a stranger and how stupid I was since she’d have no one to contact if I was killed while were were hanging out. (Her exact words.) Eventually I found it for her on Canada411.ca (like Spokeo.com for Canada) and told her she could’ve found it herself in one minute if she learned to use a computer instead of yelling and swearing at me all day. Of course, she didn’t really care about the address. She was done with all that at this point. She just didn’t want me to go.

By the time winter had passed and everything had blown over, Cody had moved to another city. I was mad that my mom had taken away my only chance to hang out with the one person I’d wanted to be friends with the longest. I tried talking to her about it, but all she ever said was how dangerous it was to go outside in the snow. She never even acknowledged how upset I was and if I tried to tell her, she just yelled at me.

Over time, I started to forget about it. The city Cody lived in was only about a 20 minute drive away, but I couldn’t drive and there was no way my mom was taking me there. I could’ve taken the bus, but my mom had made such a mess and I was so distraught over what happened last time, I was afraid of starting it all over again. Remember, all of our discussions about Cody were not calm, peaceful conferences. Every time I mentioned Cody it was yelling, screaming, name-calling, swearing, and insulting.

Also, Cody is hardly ever on Facebook (I see him online literally only once every couple of months) and honestly, I was worried as more time passed he wouldn’t like me anymore. I thought maybe he had felt bad about what he did in elementary school for a while, but after that had passed, he’d go back to hating me again, or maybe he was just messing with me in the first place. Take my word for it, he had been real mean in elementary school, and if there was one thing I wanted to avoid more than my mom’s temper, it was Cody hating me again.

Two years passed, and over time I got over it. I didn’t hear from Cody again until December 2012. He messaged me on Facebook during winter break and told me he was in Hawaii. Apparently he remembered me and he still liked me. I was relived. Since he was hardly ever on Facebook, I decided to just ask him then if he wanted to hang out again when he got back since otherwise it might be two more years before I got another chance. Even though he was being nice, I knew I was pushing my luck. I held my breath for a moment, and then he said yes.

I watched out for him on Facebook and didn’t see him online until the end of February. I knew if I didn’t take this chance it could be months, or even two more years, before he was online again, so I went for it. I messaged him and he asked if I wanted to talk on Skype. I did.

It was nice to talk to him again. We talked about elementary school, me getting a new laptop, paintballing, video games, iPads, geocaching, and more. It felt good to talk to someone who was nice and funny and who seemed like they genuinely cared about me for the first time in a while. Cody wanted to play Runescape together so I renewed my membership and we did. I was relieved. Everything had worked out eventually, even if it did take 2 years (7 if you count when I first met him in 2006).

You might want to stop reading at this point. You can hit the back button on your browser and go along your merry way thinking that Cody and I got together, hung out, and my mom apologized for not letting us meet up two years ago. Go ahead, do it. It’s not too late to escape this misery and read a nice topic about cookies (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168951). Just because there’s more text down there doesn’t mean you need to read it. Mmm, cookies.

For those of the slow kids who haven’t figured it out already, Cody and I did not end up hanging out, riding off into the sunset, and living happily ever after. “Goddamit!” you might say. “I was really hoping things would work out.” Not a chance. It turns out, Cody liked playing Runescape a lot. For hours. We played three more times over the next three days and each time lasted for over three hours. I liked Runescape too, but he always wanted to play into the early hours of the morning. And it got to the point where all we’d do is play Runescape and not talk much. It was even worse since Cody was around level 150 and I was around level 47. He had all these ideas for making money for high leveled players that involved killing high level monsters while I tagged along and felt useless, bored and tired at 3 AM. Even though he shared all the drops with me, (I finally have over 1 million GP in Runescape) it was not how I expected I’d be spending my time with my new friend. So I gently suggested we do something other than play Runescape. He said we could play Battlefield as well. I told him we didn’t always have to play a game and we could just try talking as we had the first time, but he just shrugged (or rather made a noise equivalent to shrugging.)

While this was extremely frustrating, I knew I had to be patient with Cody. He’d agreed to hang out with me during spring break, so if he wanted to play Runescape now, then that’s what we’d do. I’d--for lack of a better term--suffer through these sessions and reap the rewards later. The second time we played, I wasn’t so good at this and I’d lashed out at Cody in frustration. I felt awful after and apologized the next day for snapping at him and explained I was tired and bored. He said it was fine and he understood. It made me wonder that if I felt guilty just for snapping at Cody, how my mom could live with herself at all by practically making a living out of swearing and insulting.

Speaking of which, my mom was not happy Cody and I were getting in touch again. She thought she’d seen the last of Cody when he moved away. She hadn’t counted on her snow pretext working and was thrilled Cody moved away out of my reach just in the nick of time. And when my mom’s not happy, she likes to throw one of her temper tantrums with her in-famed world-class swearing and insults.

Obviously while Cody and I were Skyping was not a good time for one of these tantrums. This was the fourth day and we’d played over 12 hours of Runescape in the past 3 days. We’d been playing Runescape for three hours so far and I was trying my hardest to keep it together. Unfortunately, my mom does not operate on a schedule, nor does she care remotely about what’s convenient for me, so she decided it was a fine time to fire off some power-insults while I was concentrating my hardest on what to do to make Cody see things my way.

After hearing more of her excessive, irrational, and slanderous insults and curses, I lost it. I ended up yelling at Cody and taking my frustrations, Runescape and otherwise, out on him while my mom yelled at me. She told me about what a terrible person I was for fraternizing with Cody and never following her orders. The more she yelled at me, the more I swore and insulted Cody. I thought she was going to go upstairs to her computer and start a conference call so she could insult both Cody and I simultaneously.

Needless to say, I felt terrible after. I’d hurt the only person who had ever wanted to be friends with me in 16 years when he had done nothing wrong and demonstrated to my mom that she could get me to do anything with screaming and insults.

The next day I decided to talk to my mom about what happened. I told her about how important this was to me and I explained how upset I felt about the snow disaster back in 2010. She didn’t want to talk to me and she yelled at me to stop talking to her. I told her about how I felt and she said she would call the police if I didn’t stop trying to talk to her. I told her that it wasn’t illegal for me to talk to her or try to make friends and asked what she expected the police to do. She said they’d “take [me] away for good” and that she’d be rid of me so she could live her life normally. I asked why the police would take away an innocent person forever and she said “You’ll see, you’ll see.”

Cody called me twice the next day. I wanted to talk to him, but I didn’t answer because I didn’t want my mom finding out and going through what happened the previous night all over again. Between the fighting back in 2010 and what happened just last night, I couldn’t take more of her abuse. Even worse, I was worried Cody would want to play Runescape again. I couldn’t take any more of that either.

Now that I’ve calmed down and sorted everything else, I’d like to try talking to him again but I don’t know if I even have a chance. First, he’s still hardly ever on Skype or Facebook. I saw him online last week and was going to ask him if he still wanted to Skype, but I chickened out. I just don’t know how to ask without sounding like a jerk after what happened. If I see him online again I’m going to ask anyway, since what do I have to lose? He's pretty naive and might not notice.

If you made it this far and actually comprehended what I wrote, thank you for reading. Got any ideas? If not, you probably went over to the cookie topic. Can’t say I blame you.

TapDancer
April 4th, 2013, 04:09 AM
Hey everyone. There’s something I’ve been really upset about lately and I wanted to tell you guys to see what you think. This one is pretty long, since it’s a real mess and I wanted to explain things clearly and in detail so you would all understand what’s happening. I thought some of you might be able to help, but it may be a bit late for that so I just wanted to tell someone about it.

The story starts back in 2006. I had just moved to a new city with my mom after she broke up with my dad and was starting grade 4 at a new school. Back then, I wasn’t so self-conscious and felt free to talk to anyone I met at school who I liked. It wasn’t long before I met Cody, a boy in the grade below mine who seemed friendly, kind, and surely someone with who I could make friends.

I was wrong. Cody disliked me from the first time I talked to him. I wanted to play with him at recess time every day, but he didn’t want to. I never found out what I’d done since it was my first year at that school and I had never talked to him before that. But that didn’t stop me. I was determined to make friends at this school since I hadn’t had any at my old school.

My efforts didn’t become fruitful until four years later. It turns out I was right all along. Cody hadn’t hated me after all. He messaged me on Facebook one day in January 2010 and asked if I wanted to hang out and go geocaching together. By then, I was in high school and I’d long forgotten about him. But I remembered how much I had liked him in elementary school and was glad he didn’t dislike me for no reason anymore and we could finally be friends.

When you hear that I live in Canada, you might think we get so much snow we live in igloos and ride polar bears to get around. While that might be true for the rest of Canada, it sure isn’t the case in my little town of Vancouver. While the rest of BC and Canada basks in snow and its beautiful bright white glory ^_^, only a few snowflakes drift down to Vancouver each year. Sometimes the snowflakes stick and we get entire millimeters of snow.

My mom is highly protective of me. I get it, all mothers love their children and want to keep them safe. That’s normal, so I won’t fault her for that per se. Some parents are stricter than others. I get that too. The problem is my mom takes it quite far and she has an exceedingly bad temper. :evil2: If anything doesn’t fit her liking or she doesn’t get her way, she starts yelling, swearing, and name-calling without listening to any reasoning. :headbonk: She doesn’t feel comfortable letting me go out without her, and especially not with other kids. She doesn’t flat out say, “You must never talk to or make friends with other kids,” since even she realizes that would be ridiculous, but her body language does convey that fact. Up until now this had never been a problem since I’ve never had a close friend to hang out with outside of school. Ever. :hmm:

When Cody wanted to hang out with me, it became a problem for the first time in eight years. It was a problem because my mom didn’t want me to go out with Cody, but she didn’t have a good reason. Unfortunately, it just so happened there was a light dusting of snow on the ground outside at the time. She capitalized on the opportunity to use the millimeter or so of snow as an excuse to keep me from going, saying it was unsafe. I told her there was hardly any snow on the ground, but she didn’t care. She started yelling and screaming about how stupid I was to try to go out in the snow. The snow disappeared in less than 24 hours, but she still said no.

Later, she asked me for Cody’s phone number. I gave it to her and she wanted his address. I told her I didn’t have his address and that she’d have to wait until I got a chance to go to his house since it didn’t seem fitting for me to just ask him out of the blue. I explained as I got to know him better over time I’d learn more about him, but it would take time. She started yelling at me for going out with a stranger and how stupid I was since she’d have no one to contact if I was killed while were were hanging out. (Her exact words.) Eventually I found it for her on Canada411.ca (like Spokeo.com for Canada) and told her she could’ve found it herself in one minute if she learned to use a computer instead of yelling and swearing at me all day. Of course, she didn’t really care about the address. She was done with all that at this point. She just didn’t want me to go.

By the time winter had passed and everything had blown over, Cody had moved to another city. I was mad that my mom had taken away my only chance to hang out with the one person I’d wanted to be friends with the longest. I tried talking to her about it, but all she ever said was how dangerous it was to go outside in the snow. She never even acknowledged how upset I was and if I tried to tell her, she just yelled at me.

Over time, I started to forget about it. The city Cody lived in was only about a 20 minute drive away, but I couldn’t drive and there was no way my mom was taking me there. I could’ve taken the bus, but my mom had made such a mess and I was so distraught over what happened last time, I was afraid of starting it all over again. Remember, all of our discussions about Cody were not calm, peaceful conferences. Every time I mentioned Cody it was yelling, screaming, name-calling, swearing, and insulting.

Also, Cody is hardly ever on Facebook (I see him online literally only once every couple of months) and honestly, I was worried as more time passed he wouldn’t like me anymore. I thought maybe he had felt bad about what he did in elementary school for a while, but after that had passed, he’d go back to hating me again, or maybe he was just messing with me in the first place. Take my word for it, he had been real mean in elementary school, and if there was one thing I wanted to avoid more than my mom’s temper, it was Cody hating me again.

Two years passed, and over time I got over it. I didn’t hear from Cody again until December 2012. He messaged me on Facebook during winter break and told me he was in Hawaii. Apparently he remembered me and he still liked me. I was relived. Since he was hardly ever on Facebook, I decided to just ask him then if he wanted to hang out again when he got back since otherwise it might be two more years before I got another chance. Even though he was being nice, I knew I was pushing my luck. I held my breath for a moment, and then he said yes.

I watched out for him on Facebook and didn’t see him online until the end of February. I knew if I didn’t take this chance it could be months, or even two more years, before he was online again, so I went for it. I messaged him and he asked if I wanted to talk on Skype. I did.

It was nice to talk to him again. We talked about elementary school, me getting a new laptop, paintballing, video games, iPads, geocaching, and more. It felt good to talk to someone who was nice and funny and who seemed like they genuinely cared about me for the first time in a while. Cody wanted to play Runescape together so I renewed my membership and we did. I was relieved. Everything had worked out eventually, even if it did take 2 years (7 if you count when I first met him in 2006).

You might want to stop reading at this point. You can hit the back button on your browser and go along your merry way thinking that Cody and I got together, hung out, and my mom apologized for not letting us meet up two years ago. Go ahead, do it. It’s not too late to escape this misery and read a nice topic about cookies (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=168951). Just because there’s more text down there doesn’t mean you need to read it. Mmm, cookies.

For those of the slow kids who haven’t figured it out already, Cody and I did not end up hanging out, riding off into the sunset, and living happily ever after. “Goddamit!” you might say. “I was really hoping things would work out.” Not a chance. It turns out, Cody liked playing Runescape a lot. For hours. We played three more times over the next three days and each time lasted for over three hours. I liked Runescape too, but he always wanted to play into the early hours of the morning. And it got to the point where all we’d do is play Runescape and not talk much. It was even worse since Cody was around level 150 and I was around level 47. He had all these ideas for making money for high leveled players that involved killing high level monsters while I tagged along and felt useless, bored and tired at 3 AM. Even though he shared all the drops with me, (I finally have over 1 million GP in Runescape) it was not how I expected I’d be spending my time with my new friend. So I gently suggested we do something other than play Runescape. He said we could play Battlefield as well. I told him we didn’t always have to play a game and we could just try talking as we had the first time, but he just shrugged (or rather made a noise equivalent to shrugging.)

While this was extremely frustrating, I knew I had to be patient with Cody. He’d agreed to hang out with me during spring break, so if he wanted to play Runescape now, then that’s what we’d do. I’d--for lack of a better term--suffer through these sessions and reap the rewards later. The second time we played, I wasn’t so good at this and I’d lashed out at Cody in frustration. I felt awful after and apologized the next day for snapping at him and explained I was tired and bored. He said it was fine and he understood. It made me wonder that if I felt guilty just for snapping at Cody, how my mom could live with herself at all by practically making a living out of swearing and insulting.

Speaking of which, my mom was not happy Cody and I were getting in touch again. She thought she’d seen the last of Cody when he moved away. She hadn’t counted on her snow pretext working and was thrilled Cody moved away out of my reach just in the nick of time. And when my mom’s not happy, she likes to throw one of her temper tantrums with her in-famed world-class swearing and insults.

Obviously while Cody and I were Skyping was not a good time for one of these tantrums. This was the fourth day and we’d played over 12 hours of Runescape in the past 3 days. We’d been playing Runescape for three hours so far and I was trying my hardest to keep it together. Unfortunately, my mom does not operate on a schedule, nor does she care remotely about what’s convenient for me, so she decided it was a fine time to fire off some power-insults while I was concentrating my hardest on what to do to make Cody see things my way.

After hearing more of her excessive, irrational, and slanderous insults and curses, I lost it. I ended up yelling at Cody and taking my frustrations, Runescape and otherwise, out on him while my mom yelled at me. She told me about what a terrible person I was for fraternizing with Cody and never following her orders. The more she yelled at me, the more I swore and insulted Cody. I thought she was going to go upstairs to her computer and start a conference call so she could insult both Cody and I simultaneously.

Needless to say, I felt terrible after. I’d hurt the only person who had ever wanted to be friends with me in 16 years when he had done nothing wrong and demonstrated to my mom that she could get me to do anything with screaming and insults.

The next day I decided to talk to my mom about what happened. I told her about how important this was to me and I explained how upset I felt about the snow disaster back in 2010. She didn’t want to talk to me and she yelled at me to stop talking to her. I told her about how I felt and she said she would call the police if I didn’t stop trying to talk to her. I told her that it wasn’t illegal for me to talk to her or try to make friends and asked what she expected the police to do. She said they’d “take [me] away for good” and that she’d be rid of me so she could live her life normally. I asked why the police would take away an innocent person forever and she said “You’ll see, you’ll see.”

Cody called me twice the next day. I wanted to talk to him, but I didn’t answer because I didn’t want my mom finding out and going through what happened the previous night all over again. Between the fighting back in 2010 and what happened just last night, I couldn’t take more of her abuse. Even worse, I was worried Cody would want to play Runescape again. I couldn’t take any more of that either.

Now that I’ve calmed down and sorted everything else, I’d like to try talking to him again but I don’t know if I even have a chance. First, he’s still hardly ever on Skype or Facebook. I saw him online last week and was going to ask him if he still wanted to Skype, but I chickened out. I just don’t know how to ask without sounding like a jerk after what happened. If I see him online again I’m going to ask anyway, since what do I have to lose? He's pretty naive and might not notice.

If you made it this far and actually comprehended what I wrote, thank you for reading. Got any ideas? If not, you probably went over to the cookie topic. Can’t say I blame you.

Wow! That is a long story. Well, I think you should not contact him, let him come to you. If he wants to be friends with you, he will realize that you were stressed when you took it all out on him, and, that there must have been outside factors. Play some more RuneScape maybe? Make sure he can see you are online (I am assuming he is on your friends list) and maybe do some stuff near him, if you can. Buy some anchovy pizzas, then, you can go into high-level areas and defeat high-level monsters, and, you can regenerate your health with the pizzas. They are high in health, and you only eat half at a time, so, its good. You can buy them off the exchange, so, you don't have to worry about no having the level to make them. I believe he will come around. Talk to him when he does, and maybe when you are a little older, take the bus ride down, and say you were hanging with someone else (maybe organize with another friend to corroborate this). I don't like lying to people, but your mother needs to realize you are not a kid anymore, and that you need your freedom. A 20 min bus ride is a reasonable distance. But if that doesn't work, make him come to you? Go to the movies or something, I dunno. Or your house, your mum isn't around 24/7, is she? I mean, that is if you don't want to lie. I mean, I hate lying to my mum, but, I'm 16, I need to be a teenager, and she is protective of me, understandably, because, same-sex couples aren't as accepted where I am. (I have a partner, but, we go to different schools, so, we mostly go to the movies and stuff) Feel free to message me if you need more advice, I hope I have helped. :)

HunterSteele
April 4th, 2013, 05:39 PM
Wow! That is a long story. Well, I think you should not contact him, let him come to you. If he wants to be friends with you, he will realize that you were stressed when you took it all out on him, and, that there must have been outside factors. Play some more RuneScape maybe? Make sure he can see you are online (I am assuming he is on your friends list) and maybe do some stuff near him, if you can. Buy some anchovy pizzas, then, you can go into high-level areas and defeat high-level monsters, and, you can regenerate your health with the pizzas. They are high in health, and you only eat half at a time, so, its good. You can buy them off the exchange, so, you don't have to worry about no having the level to make them. I believe he will come around. Talk to him when he does, and maybe when you are a little older, take the bus ride down, and say you were hanging with someone else (maybe organize with another friend to corroborate this). I don't like lying to people, but your mother needs to realize you are not a kid anymore, and that you need your freedom. A 20 min bus ride is a reasonable distance. But if that doesn't work, make him come to you? Go to the movies or something, I dunno. Or your house, your mum isn't around 24/7, is she? I mean, that is if you don't want to lie. I mean, I hate lying to my mum, but, I'm 16, I need to be a teenager, and she is protective of me, understandably, because, same-sex couples aren't as accepted where I am. (I have a partner, but, we go to different schools, so, we mostly go to the movies and stuff) Feel free to message me if you need more advice, I hope I have helped. :)
Thanks for the reply.

Playing RuneScape to get him to notice me was also the first thing I thought of. The problem is he's probably not going to be on RuneScape. I left this out of my original post since I didn't think it was relevant, but Cody didn't have a membership when we started and I renewed his at the same time when I renewed mine. He doesn't have any money, so he can't get one for himself. I was expecting him to contact me last week when it expired asking me if I would renew it again, but he didn't.

I understand what you mean about waiting for him to contact me. That way, I have the psychological upper-hand. Unfortunately, we are talking about a matter of months and years here, not days and weeks. Remember, this only happened two years after he first wanted to hang out, and 7 years after I met him. I don't think I can wait another two years.

Ever since what happened, I've been living with my dad. I have no more tolerance left for my mom's apathetic temper and bigoted attitude. My dad is OK with me going out without him, although he's under the impression I'm trying to avoid making friends. And yeah, Cody did offer to come here. I just thought it would be nice to go to him just to go somewhere new.

Right now, it's a matter of playing the waiting game. I looked up his phone number but I don't really want to use it since I don't want to explain how I got it. If I don't see him online again in the next few months I will and whatever happens happens.

TapDancer
April 5th, 2013, 01:08 AM
Thanks for the reply.

Playing RuneScape to get him to notice me was also the first thing I thought of. The problem is he's probably not going to be on RuneScape. I left this out of my original post since I didn't think it was relevant, but Cody didn't have a membership when we started and I renewed his at the same time when I renewed mine. He doesn't have any money, so he can't get one for himself. I was expecting him to contact me last week when it expired asking me if I would renew it again, but he didn't.

I understand what you mean about waiting for him to contact me. That way, I have the psychological upper-hand. Unfortunately, we are talking about a matter of months and years here, not days and weeks. Remember, this only happened two years after he first wanted to hang out, and 7 years after I met him. I don't think I can wait another two years.

Ever since what happened, I've been living with my dad. I have no more tolerance left for my mom's apathetic temper and bigoted attitude. My dad is OK with me going out without him, although he's under the impression I'm trying to avoid making friends. And yeah, Cody did offer to come here. I just thought it would be nice to go to him just to go somewhere new.

Right now, it's a matter of playing the waiting game. I looked up his phone number but I don't really want to use it since I don't want to explain how I got it. If I don't see him online again in the next few months I will and whatever happens happens.

Wait a week or two, then contact him. It might be a bit awkward, but, I see no reason why you can't see him. As for your mother, she will realise in time. He could be too proud to take your money, when it comes to the runescape thing. You said he offered to come to you, I suspect he wants to see you, he is just a bit unknowing what you're like at the moment, considering you kind of went off at him. Or, if you have his mobile, text him and be like "Sorry I've been a dick". I see what you mean about the years thing, so, perhaps it is best for you to make contact. But, I think you should do it because it sounds like something is there, and, I don't think you have anything to lose. I mean, otherwise it could be years. But good luck with it. :)

Captain Who
April 5th, 2013, 10:29 AM
Wow, I actually read that all, If he ever does come online again, I think you should just go for it and talk to him because, you never know when your next chance will be, and if you try and chicken out, just forget all the bad thoughts about the situation and send him a message. Its what I do ^-^ and it near enough always turns out good

Second Chance
April 6th, 2013, 02:26 AM
In a nutshell you found a person you really liked as a friend, but he did not turn out as you had expected, and your mum seems to have tried to sabatouge your friendship as the icing on the cake.

I don't mean to sound rude here, but your signature lists your being gay. Is it a fair guess that maybe you like Cody more than a friend which is why you were willing to bend over backwards to do what he wanted? If you ask me, it really does not seem like you and Cody have much in common, and my impression is that you are trying your best to be someone you're not to make Cody like you which is probably why you were getting short with the guy. I am sure Cody is a great guy, but it really does not seem like it is worth all of the effort to make yourself someone you're not to please the guy. It sure does not seem like playing Runscape for hours at a time is something that you like, and it really seems like you wanted to be around Cody at any cost even if it came at your own happiness.

As for Cody, I think you need to ask yourself why you're trying to be around him. What I mean is that if you like him as more than a friend, then be honest about it and see if you two have anything in common. If the guy has a nice looking body but nothing else of substance, then he's just not worth your time. I mean this is a guy who has been in and out of your life for several years, and it just does not seem like he is making the same effort you are to make this friendship work. I strongly believe you should move on and find someone else who shares your interests and is someone who is like you rather than going after this guy who is most likely straight and doesn't seem like he has much of life outside of computer games. Again, I am sure Cody is a great guy, but he just doesn't seem like a good match for you based upon everything you had described above.

As for your Mum, I think that is a totally different issue. I think your Mum has every right to know who you're hanging out with and to know their information including who their parents are BEFORE you go out with the person. It is one thing if the person wants to come over to your house, but if you're going over there, then your Mum should know who and where you're going. I guess your Mum is a bit overprotective, but if you work with her, then I am sure she'll back off. If you fight her and give her attitude about giving her information, then you both will be at each others' throats.

I think the relationship you have with your Mum has issues especially because she is trying to control who your friends are which is crazy at your age. It is one thing if you're in junior high or younger because kids that age need guidance, but at your age you almost an adult and are way too old for playdates. Maybe your Mum is afraid of loosing you because your all she has in her life now that your Father is not around, but she has to accept the fact that you're growing and will eventually be on your own. I am not saying you have to be rude to her and tell her to leave you alone, but she has to let you make your own decisions. If you mess up, which probably is going to happen, then she has to let you learn from your mistakes. At the same time, you should learn from your Mum's advice while also being able to make your own decisions. All because you think differently doesn't mean you're doing something wrong as long as we are not talking about you doing something illegal or immoral. Again, your Mum has to accept that your not a little kid anymore, and at your age she has to start letting you do stuff on your own.

Basically, be realistic about this Cody guy and don't try to be something you're not, and don't expect him to be more than what he really is. For your Mum, you have to keep her in the loop with information, but she has to respect the fact that you're getting older and can't be treated like a little kid who needs to be constantly watched. At your age you know right from wrong, and I am sure you're smart enough to know what you should and shouldn't do.

HunterSteele
April 8th, 2013, 12:05 AM
Wow, I actually read that all, If he ever does come online again, I think you should just go for it and talk to him because, you never know when your next chance will be, and if you try and chicken out, just forget all the bad thoughts about the situation and send him a message. Its what I do ^-^ and it near enough always turns out good
That's probably what I'm going to do. Sounds much better than Second Chance's advice.

In a nutshell you found a person you really liked as a friend, but he did not turn out as you had expected, and your mum seems to have tried to sabatouge your friendship as the icing on the cake.

I don't mean to sound rude here, but your signature lists your being gay. Is it a fair guess that maybe you like Cody more than a friend which is why you were willing to bend over backwards to do what he wanted? If you ask me, it really does not seem like you and Cody have much in common, and my impression is that you are trying your best to be someone you're not to make Cody like you which is probably why you were getting short with the guy. I am sure Cody is a great guy, but it really does not seem like it is worth all of the effort to make yourself someone you're not to please the guy. It sure does not seem like playing Runscape for hours at a time is something that you like, and it really seems like you wanted to be around Cody at any cost even if it came at your own happiness.

As for Cody, I think you need to ask yourself why you're trying to be around him. What I mean is that if you like him as more than a friend, then be honest about it and see if you two have anything in common. If the guy has a nice looking body but nothing else of substance, then he's just not worth your time. I mean this is a guy who has been in and out of your life for several years, and it just does not seem like he is making the same effort you are to make this friendship work. I strongly believe you should move on and find someone else who shares your interests and is someone who is like you rather than going after this guy who is most likely straight and doesn't seem like he has much of life outside of computer games. Again, I am sure Cody is a great guy, but he just doesn't seem like a good match for you based upon everything you had described above.

As for your Mum, I think that is a totally different issue. I think your Mum has every right to know who you're hanging out with and to know their information including who their parents are BEFORE you go out with the person. It is one thing if the person wants to come over to your house, but if you're going over there, then your Mum should know who and where you're going. I guess your Mum is a bit overprotective, but if you work with her, then I am sure she'll back off. If you fight her and give her attitude about giving her information, then you both will be at each others' throats.

I think the relationship you have with your Mum has issues especially because she is trying to control who your friends are which is crazy at your age. It is one thing if you're in junior high or younger because kids that age need guidance, but at your age you almost an adult and are way too old for playdates. Maybe your Mum is afraid of loosing you because your all she has in her life now that your Father is not around, but she has to accept the fact that you're growing and will eventually be on your own. I am not saying you have to be rude to her and tell her to leave you alone, but she has to let you make your own decisions. If you mess up, which probably is going to happen, then she has to let you learn from your mistakes. At the same time, you should learn from your Mum's advice while also being able to make your own decisions. All because you think differently doesn't mean you're doing something wrong as long as we are not talking about you doing something illegal or immoral. Again, your Mum has to accept that your not a little kid anymore, and at your age she has to start letting you do stuff on your own.

Basically, be realistic about this Cody guy and don't try to be something you're not, and don't expect him to be more than what he really is. For your Mum, you have to keep her in the loop with information, but she has to respect the fact that you're getting older and can't be treated like a little kid who needs to be constantly watched. At your age you know right from wrong, and I am sure you're smart enough to know what you should and shouldn't do.
No, it is not fair to assume that just because I am gay and trying to make friends that I like Cody as more than a friend. A gay person can have a platonic relationship with another boy just as a a straight person can be friends with a girl. I was trying to be accommodating since since it seemed like the right thing to do. Also, my mom told me I was too fussy and demanding when it came to getting along with people, so I wanted to demonstrate that I could do what someone else wanted without complaining.

You are wrong about Cody and I not having much in common. When he asked to hang out in 2010, he wanted to go geocaching because he knew I liked the activity too. That's something in common. We also both like video games. It's not like I hate Runescape and was only playing it with him to make him happy. I only got frustrated because he wanted to play until 2 o'clock in the morning AND he never wanted to do what I wanted to do in the game. I didn't think it was fair to force him to do what I wanted to just because I wanted to do it. Besides, he was being generous and sharing the drops with me. At that point we'd only been talking and playing Runescape for 4 days, and I thought if we stayed friends we'd have lots of time to do what I wanted to do in the coming months and years.

Cody does very much have a life outside of computer games. If you had read my post carefully, you'd know that Cody had invited me to hang out once three years ago, and he agreed to hang out this spring break. I did in fact talk to him briefly two weeks ago (after the incident), and he told me he was going paintballing and off roading with a friend of his. I did think about asking if I could come, but thought it might sound too desperate after what I had said during my meltdown earlier.

As I also said in my post, I do not have a problem with my mom trying to keep me safe. I have a problem with her using that as a pretext to sabotage a legitimate relationship with a great person, especially when said relationship is the result of 6+ years of effort and on the verge of fruitfulness. She did not for a moment expect me to give her the information she wanted. She knew I didn't know where Cody lived and was waiting for me to tell her that so she had an excuse to not let me go. If she had any right to know who I was with like you said, she waived it when she decided to abuse it that way. I also have a problem with her abuse. When you yell profanities and insults all day, that is abuse. Not "advice" as you call it, or "discipline" as she calls it. She is not going to back off just because I am trying to work with her anymore than an attacking dog would back off just because you're trying to pet it.

Cody and I were going geocaching in 2010. We were not going to his house. I told my mom that having his address (even though I provided it) when we would not even be there would not help her and printed out a list of the geocaches we were looking for. The list contained a map, description, and coordinates of all the places we would be going, but her choice to spend her time hassling me instead of learning to understand English and read a map prevented her from comprehending any of the information I provided. She probably just wanted to find Cody's house on Google Street View so that she could feel better if her house was nicer than his. (It wasn't.) In any case, her wishes-- or rather delusions-- are not relevant at this point because I'm done listening to her.

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5353&stc=1&d=1365397357

HunterSteele
April 13th, 2013, 02:48 AM
I called Cody on the phone today (with the phone number I looked up) and he didn't answer. I just noticed he deleted me from Skype, so I will try calling a few more times. If I still can't get him, then I may just drop by his house sometime since I have his address. It's not a good first resort since it's impolite to go to someone's house without calling first, but if I've called many times and there was no answer there's not much else I can do.

HunterSteele
April 16th, 2013, 12:23 AM
I messaged Cody on Facebook today. I wasn't able to fix things like I hoped. I can understand why he's upset, although his response seemed over the top.

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5396&stc=1&d=1366087915

It does raise the question of whether he really liked me in the first place, or if he was just going through a phase. If that was the case, then he would've stopped wanting to be friends sooner or later even if my mom hadn't chucked a spaz for no reason. Even so, I was the one who talked to him those three nights and I feel like his efforts were genuine. I doubt someone playing a prank could have kept an act up for that long, nor would they suggest we hang out.

I'm disappointed. This is an ugly end to an incident that could've been easily avoided if my mom could control her temper like a human being. Speaking of my mom, she still denies disliking Cody or trying to sabotage our friendship and says it was my fault for upsetting him. She doesn't see what the big deal is and she says I can just make friends with someone else. Just stop the first stranger I see and make friends with them.

As a last-ditch attempt to fix things, I'm mailing Cody an apologetic post card with three golden retriever puppies on it. Probably a waste of a stamp, but oh well. It's all up to the puppies now.

http://rlv.zcache.ca/isapi/designall.dll?rlvnet=1&realview=113443160207323201&design=a5fe75c5-cfba-417c-a128-bbb28f2d655b&type=standard_postcard&pending=false&pdt=zazzle_postcard&hide=bleed%2Csafe%2CvisibleMask&r=1366087075388&bg=0xdddddd&max_dim=1024

HunterSteele
May 5th, 2013, 08:47 PM
It looks like no one else has anything to add so I am talking to myself here.

I called Cody a bunch of times the other day and he finally answered. We worked everything out. Hopefully my mom won't cause any more trouble, although I'm not counting on it.

HunterSteele
May 22nd, 2013, 02:20 AM
I don't wanna panic, but I messaged Cody a bunch of times over the past week and he hasn't responded.

I'm guessing he's probably busy. But I really, really hope we're not going through this again, because I literally didn't do anything this time.

Axw_JD
May 22nd, 2013, 11:44 PM
I did read, hope it all goes well :)

Horatio Nelson
May 23rd, 2013, 12:09 AM
Read it all. (Might I add you are quite articulate with your words. :)) I feel like this Cody guy is a waste of time. But that's coming from an outsider who knows nothing. I wish you luck in your endeavors though friend.