Religion v Gay Marriage

[JoeHillsTSD]

Anyone here pro-gay marriage and devout Christian/Catholic? I've heard the "god made marriage for men and women, not men and men" argument too many times, and very little religious background to argue against it. Anyone have a counter to these arguments, because they annoy the hell out of me, and it's about time that some of the people with this view be educated.

[Cicero]

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. We should give gay marriage a different name but the same rights, marriage is originally a Holy matrimony between man and woman. Marriage has religious roots, not secular.

[StoppingTime]

Seperate & Equal ≠ Equality.
Marriage doesn't have to be religious - it can be. So why not call it marriage, and let religious institutions decide whether or not they will marry gays

[Smeagol]

I believe that Holy Matrimony and a marriage are two different things. Gay marriage should be legal because we have a separation of church and state. However, churches should be able to decide who they join spiritually.

[JoeHillsTSD]

I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. We should give gay marriage a different name but the same rights, marriage is originally a Holy matrimony between man and woman. Marriage has religious roots, not secular.

My dad literally said that exact thing an hour ago.

[Cicero]

My dad literally said that exact thing an hour ago.

What if i told you I am he you speak of?









Cause that'd be crazy :P lol

[JoeHillsTSD]

But marriage isn't a religious practice. It is a civil right. My friend posted a picture describing marriage (religious practice v civil right) on Facebook let me see if I can find t

Edit: found it!

What if i told you I am he you speak of?









Cause that'd be crazy :P lol

Lmfao mind=blown!

Please use multi-quote instead of double posting. ~TheMatrix

[xmojox]

But marriage isn't a religious practice. It is a civil right. My friend posted a picture describing marriage (religious practice v civil right) on Facebook let me see if I can find t

Edit: found it!



Lmfao mind=blown!

Please use multi-quote instead of double posting. ~TheMatrix

You just posted your counter-arguments. :)

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Religious people need to get over their butthurtness.

[Jess]

Marriage doesn't belong to religion...I agree with Maevelyn...holy matrimony and a marriage are two different things...

[Sir Suomi]

What bugs me is when people who call themselves "devote" Christians, yet bash on homosexuals. That's just wrong, and quite frankly annoying as hell.

Heh, annoying as hell, Christianity. Get it? No? Tough crowd :P

[Bethany]

It's irrelevant in the US who the christian god made marriage for, because the beliefs of deities don't determine the laws.

Plus, it's difficult to decipher what the Bible intends. What about David and Jonathan in the Bible? Some portions of the Bible seem to support homosexuality.

[Taurus]

Click on the link below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X-YCdcnf_P8#t=4s

[IAMWILL]

Marriage has always been a religious ceremony. There are two types of marriage as it is defined today however, that being Holy Matrimony and legal marriage. Under the definition of Holy Matrimony, gay marriage is impossible. The separation of Church and state when it comes to marriage is relatively new, which is one of the reasons why gay marriage is illegal in all but 8 (?) states. Religion isn't the only reason states have decided this, although it is undeniably a large part.

Personally I am a practicing Catholic (not devout, although I agree with their ethical and most political views), and I have mixed views on gay marriage. I believe gays should have equal rights, but I don't believe changing the traditional definition of marriage is the way to achieve those rights. I would rather see the rules that govern things like hospital visitation rights and inheritance rights et cetera be changed to accompany gay couples.

[randomnessqueen]

not strictly christian, but very spiritually religious. and i am pro gay marriage

[workingatperfect]

Secular marriages are perfectly legal, so I don't see why it matters.

[xmojox]

The thing about Holy Matrimony is this: it wouldn't mean a thing if it aren't accompanied by a marriage certificate issued by the state. Without this state issued certificate, Holy Matrimony would carry no more weight than the civil-partnerships proposed by those who seem to believe that the institution of marriage was created for them to own and define.

All marriage should be recognized by the state. Whether or not a particular religious institution wants to join 2 people is entirely the prerogative of that institution. Nobody, at least in the US can force a church to perform any ceremony that church doesn't want to perform. Churches even turn away hetero couples who want to be married. It's their right to do so.