Christian struggling with bisexuality, automatically damned, no hope, no peace, or is

[Lovelife090994]

Christian struggling with bisexuality, automatically damned, no hope, no peace, or is it a phase?:

This is very long but serious, if you read, please respond fairly and justly.
This is me again... I know that as a Christian homosexuality, bisexuality, and deviant sexuality is perverse, but one problem, yeah I'm dealing with it. Now problem is that I have been dealing with this for years, yes I am young, 18 in fact but (sniffs) I can't come to terms with this! I find this stuff wrong I do but I have it and do not wish to change who I am or how I am, and other Christians just say I might as well be atheist, that I'm damned, can have no peace. I told my mother, an ordained Christian minister she said she won't agree with my choice but will love me, she's my mother she says. But I literally cry on this. Because I love God and my family too much to leave either and I know that anything LGBT is very much so wrong and frowned upon, and I do not align with the LGBT. But to me, who is so Christian that the person can question my faith and degrade me?

I love God, I love my family but I know I've had these feelings like crazy, and no I am not abandoning God. But is it so terrible for me to be bisexual? Am I now so foul that even a Christian may spit at my feet? Am I so foul that God shan't love me, that I can no longer be called, "Christian?"

Ugh when will it end, I feel so confused on the whole issue, I cry and feel near suicidal at times.
I am praying... but God Bless. He's all I have right now.

[steellord321]

Would you care about this if you werent bi? Would you have any sympathy for it? A lot of us dont struggle with this cause we simply dont believe the same. Your 18...gonna be miserable if u continue like this much longer. How u feel about it won't change your sexuality, only it will change how you enjoy life. Its not a phase sheesh. You will have to embrace it at some point hopefully soon.

You should know theres like 6000 churches out there that accept LGBT so u might want to join one, or and no offense but therapy might be appropriate at this point. Sounds like people are being cruel and u need to get away from them, other than family anyway. Telling u that its the same as atheist or a choice is so ignorant. This is not a accept gay and reject God decision. Theres *many* gay christians and many str8 christians who accept LGBT. You just need to find them and become one of them. If your suicidal, time for a change.

[Lovelife090994]

Would you care about this if you werent bi? Would you have any sympathy for it? A lot of us dont struggle with this cause we simply dont believe the same. Your 18...gonna be miserable if u continue like this much longer. How u feel about it won't change your sexuality, only it will change how you enjoy life. Its not a phase sheesh. You will have to embrace it at some point hopefully soon.

You should know theres like 6000 churches out there that accept LGBT so u might want to join one, or and no offense but therapy might be appropriate at this point. Sounds like people are being cruel and u need to get away from them, other than family anyway. Telling u that its the same as atheist or a choice is so ignorant. This is not a accept gay and reject God decision. Theres *many* gay christians and many str8 christians who accept LGBT. You just need to find them and become one of them. If your suicidal, time for a change.

fair enough thanks though

[Pierce]

Please do not listen to the church's teaching of homosexuality is a sin. I know of some priests and even bishop's in the Christian church who accept homosexuality. A bishop in the Episcopal church is actually gay. Check out the Episcopal church. They are a big church and preach equality. Women can be ordained minister's, gays can get married, and they say homosexuality is not a sin. They recognize that homosexuals are created by god and therefore are flawless. I'm gay, and although I wouldn't call myself religious, I pray every morning and night. Maybe you're in the wrong church. I dislike the Catholic church very much. Many other Christian's dislike the Roman Catholic Church because it preaches signaling people out and rejecting others who are different. Christopher, you are born gay, I think you can agree with that. You didn't ask to like men and be hated by so many, you were born gay. If you were born gay, doesn't that mean that god made you gay? If you were meant to be straight god would have made you straight. You can message me and I can talk to you more about this. It's so sad to see religious youth hating themselves because they are gay. You've been listening to the wrong church and the wrong people. Best of luck!

[Lovelife090994]

Please do not listen to the church's teaching of homosexuality is a sin. I know of some priests and even bishop's in the Christian church who accept homosexuality. A bishop in the Episcopal church is actually gay. Check out the Episcopal church. They are a big church and preach equality. Women can be ordained minister's, gays can get married, and they say homosexuality is not a sin. They recognize that homosexuals are created by god and therefore are flawless. I'm gay, and although I wouldn't call myself religious, I pray every morning and night. Maybe you're in the wrong church. I dislike the Catholic church very much. Many other Christian's dislike the Roman Catholic Church because it preaches signaling people out and rejecting others who are different. Christopher, you are born gay, I think you can agree with that. You didn't ask to like men and be hated by so many, you were born gay. If you were born gay, doesn't that mean that god made you gay? If you were meant to be straight god would have made you straight. You can message me and I can talk to you more about this. It's so sad to see religious youth hating themselves because they are gay. You've been listening to the wrong church and the wrong people. Best of luck!

Thank you dearly but I wish you were right. No one will believe I was born this way and besides that's goes against logic itself and my faith. Can we talk? Of course but I believe sexuality is still a choice even though it is not something most ask for. I didn't ask to like guys and girls with a preference to guys. But I do...

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Of course but I believe sexuality is still a choice even though it is not something most ask for. I didn't ask to like guys and girls with a preference to guys.

You're kind of contradicting yourself.

[Lovelife090994]

You kind of contradicting yourself.

Yes I see... all the more proof of my confusion.

[steellord321]

Episcopal or unitarian would welcome u, but u refuse. Why i can't figure out. I really think u need therapy, again no offense. What your talking about is beyond most teenage advice.

[Lovelife090994]

Episcopal or unitarian would welcome u, but u refuse. Why i can't figure out. I really think u need therapy, again no offense. What your talking about is beyond most teenage advice.

Therapy? Too expensive and I can't let my mom truly know. And I'm no Episcopalian.
Thanks but sorry. Obviously I am never going to get over this. I may just try and live as straight as I can.

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I may just try and live as straight as I can.

I'm sorry, do you hear yourself right now? You'll never be enjoy life that way.

What is better, your religion or your happiness?

[Pierce]

I don't believe he needs therapy, although it never hurts. You should look into other churches though. For example the Episcopal church. A LOT of members of the Catholic church believe gays should be able to marry since they are children of God like everyone else. Even some priests and bishops in the ROMAN CATHOLIC church believe gays should be treated equally.

[Lovelife090994]

I'm sorry, do you hear yourself right now? You'll never be enjoy life that way.

What is better, your religion or your happiness?

My faith. I don't want to live in filth and besides being so confused I might as well ignore this and push it under the table.

[Lovelife090994]

I don't believe he needs therapy, although it never hurts. You should look into other churches though. For example the Episcopal church. A LOT of members of the Catholic church believe gays should be able to marry since they are children of God like everyone else. Even some priests and bishops in the ROMAN CATHOLIC church believe gays should be treated equally.

Thanks but no thanks, I'll be fine, I'll just keep my sexuality a secret. Not a church subject anyway.

[LouBerry]

My best friend is one of the strongest Christians I know, and she battled with bisexual feelings for years. She knew that the Bible said it was wrong, and she prayed and eventually worked through it. Just listen to your heart and pray.

[Pierce]

My best friend is one of the strongest Christians I know, and she battled with bisexual feelings for years. She knew that the Bible said it was wrong, and she prayed and eventually worked through it. Just listen to your heart and pray.

You cannot pray gay away. If she was having bisexual feelings it might have just been hormones and that's why it went away. I know priests who although might not agree with letting gays get married, understand that you cannot pray gay away. I also know priests who preach the true message of Christianity (acceptance and love) and they accept gays. Again you cannot pray gay away.

[LouBerry]

I think gays should be able to get married. I have never said an angry nor judgmental word to any gay or lesbian individual. If you look, I've recently been posting a lot of stuff in defense of my gay friends on here. Please keep in mind, my personal opinion comes from the Bible, which is clear on the subject. That does not in any way mean that the people who practice homosexuality are bad people. Most of my gay friends are better Christians than I've ever been. So, I believe that you can pray and change. But, hey, I've never been gay, so I don't know.

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Dude, get a hold of yourself. You are going to hate yourself because you've been taught to hate others? What happened to putting yourself first? In the end, you get one life. You can't make yourself straight. Believing in your faith will just make you feel worse.

Im in no way trying to change you, but I hope you see the major flaw in your logic.

[crepesuzette]

i don't think that you should hate yourself for being bi. No, not everybody in the church believes that homosexuality is a sin.

[crepesuzette]

Please do not listen to the church's teaching of homosexuality is a sin. I know of some priests and even bishop's in the Christian church who accept homosexuality. A bishop in the Episcopal church is actually gay. Check out the Episcopal church. They are a big church and preach equality. Women can be ordained minister's, gays can get married, and they say homosexuality is not a sin. They recognize that homosexuals are created by god and therefore are flawless. I'm gay, and although I wouldn't call myself [email protected]#$%^&*, I pray every morning and night. Maybe you're in the wrong church. I dislike the Catholic church very much. Many other Christian's dislike the Roman Catholic Church because it preaches signaling people out and rejecting others who are different. Christopher, you are born gay, I think you can agree with that. You didn't ask to like men and be hated by so many, you were born gay. If you were born gay, doesn't that mean that god made you gay? If you were meant to be straight god would have made you straight. You can message me and I can talk to you more about this. It's so sad to see [email protected]#$%^&* youth hating themselves because they are gay. You've been listening to the wrong church and the wrong people. Best of luck!
I know that my answer will probably get a bunch of negative responses, but when I was young, I had a lot of feelings for females. But then when females started to bully me all the time, I began to draw towards men. So does that mean I'm born gay or am I just going through a phase or am I bisexual? My sexual attraction for women kind of died away but now it's being revived and yes I still have feelings for men. So what do you think I am?

[Lovelife090994]

I know that my answer will probably get a bunch of negative responses, but when I was young, I had a lot of feelings for females. But then when females started to bully me all the time, I began to draw towards men. So does that mean I'm born gay or am I just going through a phase or am I bisexual? My sexual attraction for women kind of died away but now it's being revived and yes I still have feelings for men. So what do you think I am?


I was bullied by girls with comments that hurt mentally and I am not sure how to class you if possible.

[crepesuzette]

so which christian denominations are pro gay?

[Pierce]

I know that my answer will probably get a bunch of negative responses, but when I was young, I had a lot of feelings for females. But then when females started to bully me all the time, I began to draw towards men. So does that mean I'm born gay or am I just going through a phase or am I bisexual? My sexual attraction for women kind of died away but now it's being revived and yes I still have feelings for men. So what do you think I am?

It might just be hormones and that's why you're attracted to men. You did not make clear if you have emotional feelings for males so idk. It might be a phase. Only you can find out, the answer might come soon, it might take forever, but the truth will reveal itself in due time. Best of luck! and sorry for the cliché-ness.

[crepesuzette]

You cannot pray gay away. If she was having bisexual feelings it might have just been hormones and that's why it went away. I know priests who although might not agree with letting gays get married, understand that you cannot pray gay away. I also know priests who preach the true message of Christianity (acceptance and love) and they accept gays. Again you cannot pray gay away.

oh really? so you're saying that she might have been going through a gay phase?

[crepesuzette]

It might just be hormones and that's why you're attracted to men. You did not make clear if you have emotional feelings for males so idk. It might be a phase. Only you can find out, the answer might come soon, it might take forever, but the truth will reveal itself in due time. Best of luck! and sorry for the cliché-ness.

what makes you so sure that it could have been my hormones that did it? when do people actually know if they're gay or not?

[Pierce]

I think gays should be able to get married. I have never said an angry nor judgmental word to any gay or lesbian individual. If you look, I've recently been posting a lot of stuff in defense of my gay friends on here. Please keep in mind, my personal opinion comes from the Bible, which is clear on the subject. That does not in any way mean that the people who practice homosexuality are bad people. Most of my gay friends are better Christians than I've ever been. So, I believe that you can pray and change. But, hey, I've never been gay, so I don't know.

I appreciate your openness but I have to say even the language you use is uncomforting to me. You say your friend "battled" with bisexual feelings. You are insinuating that homosexuality and bisexuality must be fought to overcome. You believe that gays should be able to get married and they are not bad people but I'm pretty sure you believe they are sinners and that they are not born gay. It is very hard to be a strict interpreter of the bible. It was written a very long time ago and things were different then. You can not interpret things such as the bible, or the American Constitution, (sorry for getting political there) literally. Only take the message from the bible. God loves all, accepts all, and creates all. Therefore you should love and accept your neighbor no matter what. Although it may be hard sometimes to accept those different than you, you must try. That's what it means to be a Christian. Love EVERYONE and embrace and accept EVERYONE no matter what. I don't like the Vatican and I dislike many members of the Catholic/Christian church but I LOVE Christianity and what it preaches.

[Pierce]

what makes you so sure that it could have been my hormones that did it? when do people actually know if they're gay or not?

I'm not sure it was your hormones. I said I don't know. I think it's less about knowing you're gay and more about when you come to accept it. I'm not sure when I knew I was gay, but one day taking the train I saw a gay man with a purse and although some people might not like him, he knew who he was and wasn't afraid. I cried and finally came to terms with the fact that I was gay. Also I think that people can go through a phase in which they are attracted to the same sex. It happens. I believe many go through a "bisexual" phase.

[crepesuzette]

I'm not sure it was your hormones. I said I don't know. I think it's less about knowing you're gay and more about when you come to accept it. I'm not sure when I knew I was gay, but one day taking the train I saw a gay man with a purse and although some people might not like him, he knew who he was and wasn't afraid. I cried and finally came to terms with the fact that I was gay. Also I think that people can go through a phase in which they are attracted to the same sex. It happens. I believe many go through a "bisexual" phase.

were you raised in a very conservative christian household?

[Pierce]

were you raised in a very conservative christian household?

Not at all. My family is extremely liberal, we are the exact opposite of conservatives lol. It just is hard to accept it at first. I know my family would be behind me, but realizing a good portion of the world hates you and you've done nothing deliberately to deserve that hate is a little unsettling. I did just want to be like everyone else when it came to relationships. I never really had a desire to be like everyone else other than relationships. I had went through a few years of major depression before I came to terms with myself and I think now that the not coming to terms with myself might have been a factor. I live in an extremely liberal place as well. It still is hard, I can't imagine how hard it is for teens growing up in a conservative are or household where they are taught that they are sinners.

[Lovelife090994]

Not at all. My family is extremely liberal, we are the exact opposite of conservatives lol. It just is hard to accept it at first. I know my family would be behind me, but realizing a good portion of the world hates you and you've done nothing deliberately to deserve that hate is a little unsettling. I did just want to be like everyone else when it came to relationships. I never really had a desire to be like everyone else other than relationships. I had went through a few years of major depression before I came to terms with myself and I think now that the not coming to terms with myself might have been a factor. I live in an extremely liberal place as well. It still is hard, I can't imagine how hard it is for teens growing up in a conservative are or household where they are taught that they are sinners.

This is why I may switch to republican, I am very conservative

[crepesuzette]

This is why I may switch to republican, I am very conservative

how can you be a conservative and gay at the same time? usually a gay person would side with the democrats. I on the other hand am a moderate.

[Lovelife090994]

how can you be a conservative and gay at the same time? usually a gay person would side with the democrats. I on the other hand am a moderate.

Good point, then again I'm not exactly gay.

[crepesuzette]

so you're bisexual.

[Pierce]

how can you be a conservative and gay at the same time? usually a gay person would side with the democrats. I on the other hand am a moderate.

I know gay republicans/conservatives. Although they may not be conservative on social issues, specifically the issue of gay marriage, they are conservative when it comes to economics and international relations/affairs. You can be gay conservative/republican. Conservatism/Republicanism is not exactly "evil", and I can understand and respect some of the views of conservatism (mostly when it comes to foreign affairs, and sometimes economic), modern day Republicans are jokes. I'm not saying all of them but many , too many, are. Republicans in office need to learn that they can adapt to modern times without loosing what they believe in. If Republicans don't change soon, Conservatism might die. Again, I think Conservatism has a lot of good things to bring to the table, many more bad things, but still some good things. I agree with some points to conservatism (Especially in international relations) and it would be sad to see it die. However it might not be so sad to see some of the Republicans in office die (Jk......ish)

[Jasperf]

Christian struggling with bisexuality, automatically damned, no hope, no peace, or is it a phase?:

This is very long but serious, if you read, please respond fairly and justly.
This is me again... I know that as a Christian homosexuality, bisexuality, and deviant sexuality is perverse, but one problem, yeah I'm dealing with it. Now problem is that I have been dealing with this for years, yes I am young, 18 in fact but (sniffs) I can't come to terms with this! I find this stuff wrong I do but I have it and do not wish to change who I am or how I am, and other Christians just say I might as well be atheist, that I'm damned, can have no peace. I told my mother, an ordained Christian minister she said she won't agree with my choice but will love me, she's my mother she says. But I literally cry on this. Because I love God and my family too much to leave either and I know that anything LGBT is very much so wrong and frowned upon, and I do not align with the LGBT. But to me, who is so Christian that the person can question my faith and degrade me?

I love God, I love my family but I know I've had these feelings like crazy, and no I am not abandoning God. But is it so terrible for me to be bisexual? Am I now so foul that even a Christian may spit at my feet? Am I so foul that God shan't love me, that I can no longer be called, "Christian?"

Ugh when will it end, I feel so confused on the whole issue, I cry and feel near suicidal at times.
I am praying... but God Bless. He's all I have right now.

i think that it is verry wrong for believers in Christ, Christians to not think that homosexuality is ok. After all God loves us all doesnt he? he created us all didnt he? God created love, did he not? and by creating love he gave us the right to love who we want with no bounds! There is a passage in the bible 1 Corinthians 13:4, that pretty much sums up that love has no bounds, no limits! I am a catholic and i believe that God would not condemn something that he created

[Lovelife090994]

i think that it is verry wrong for believers in Christ, Christians to not think that homosexuality is ok. After all God loves us all doesnt he? he created us all didnt he? God created love, did he not? and by creating love he gave us the right to love who we want with no bounds! There is a passage in the bible 1 Corinthians 13:4, that pretty much sums up that love has no bounds, no limits! I am a catholic and i believe that God would not condemn something that he created

Fair enough, thanks.

[Jasperf]

Fair enough, thanks.

No probs :) i think that God, the father... would love you who ever you choose to love just like any father should

[double_dthatsme]

I strongly believe God has a love for all of his children. He created each and everyone of us from the colir of our hair to our sexual orientation. I have come to realisation that I am gay and I am a follower of God. He loves me and he loved you also. Even if you view being gay as a sin, Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins so we could be forgiven of them. God lovrs you and he could not an righteous and all loving Lord if he did not love all his children equally.

[xmojox]

Judge not. It applies to yourself as well as to others. Being straight won't get someone into heaven, so being gay or bi won't doom someone to hell. The people who have told you these things aren't following the teaching. They are judging, and to judge does not belong to us. Accept yourself for who God made you to be and live a good and happy life. That's the best praise you could offer.

[raptor13]

I know I'm relatively new and don't post often, but listen right now. I am a conservative Christian myself, and I want you to know you are in fact NOT automatically damned. The Bible points it out as a sin, but also points out we are all sinners. It also points out that its not an unforgivable sin, as it specifically points out which sins are unforgivable, and that is not among them. Life is hard, faith is hard, living a Christian life is hard. Regardless, God loves you, He loves you despite anything because He made you, and because you are precious to Him. If He didn't love you He wouldn't have sent His own Son to die for you, in order to set you free from all sins. If you need to talk or anything send me a message, you are a wonderful creation of God and I will be praying for you

[steellord321]

I know that my answer will probably get a bunch of negative responses, but when I was young, I had a lot of feelings for females. But then when females started to bully me all the time, I began to draw towards men. So does that mean I'm born gay or am I just going through a phase or am I bisexual? My sexual attraction for women kind of died away but now it's being revived and yes I still have feelings for men. So what do you think I am?

I realize the confusing hormone stage exists for many but at 18? Puberty is over. I dunno about u but The reason he's posting is he cant deny it any more. He's not str8 and thats not going to change.

[Lovelife090994]

I know I'm relatively new and don't post often, but listen right now. I am a conservative Christian myself, and I want you to know you are in fact NOT automatically damned. The Bible points it out as a sin, but also points out we are all sinners. It also points out that its not an unforgivable sin, as it specifically points out which sins are unforgivable, and that is not among them. Life is hard, faith is hard, living a Christian life is hard. Regardless, God loves you, He loves you despite anything because He made you, and because you are precious to Him. If He didn't love you He wouldn't have sent His own Son to die for you, in order to set you free from all sins. If you need to talk or anything send me a message, you are a wonderful creation of God and I will be praying for you

God Bless You!

Judge not. It applies to yourself as well as to others. Being straight won't get someone into heaven, so being gay or bi won't doom someone to hell. The people who have told you these things aren't following the teaching. They are judging, and to judge does not belong to us. Accept yourself for who God made you to be and live a good and happy life. That's the best praise you could offer.

You are right and honest, I thank you. God Bless!

I strongly believe God has a love for all of his children. He created each and everyone of us from the colir of our hair to our sexual orientation. I have come to realisation that I am gay and I am a follower of God. He loves me and he loved you also. Even if you view being gay as a sin, Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins so we could be forgiven of them. God lovrs you and he could not an righteous and all loving Lord if he did not love all his children equally.

I guess I should not feel ashamed... God loves all and damnation comes by acts not sexuality. Thanks, God Bless.

[ChrisA1998]

This is very long but serious, if you read, please respond fairly and justly.
This is me again... I know that as a Christian homosexuality, bisexuality, and deviant sexuality is perverse

You get it all wrong. People who have ruled this are people who still think like in middle ages.
You have the right to do what what you like, and love who you want, even if some people dont like it. After all, this is your life, not theirs. You're not going to let people controle your life as they see fit. WHo are they to judge what is wrong, what is right, and tell you what you should do...

If you ask me, as long as it doesn't cause harmful to anyone, this is not a sin, and certainly not perverse.

You love a guy and he loves you back ? thats fine, whats wrong with that ?

[Danny_boi 16]

It is normal to be a little curious, bisexual, or even homosexual. I am a curious guy, and when I have the chance I go and confess it as a sin. I do count it as a sin. But you don't need to beat yourself up over it. And I confess most if not all my sins at a different Parish; where the priest doesn’t know me.

[Lovelife090994]

You get it all wrong. People who have ruled this are people who still think like in middle ages.
You have the right to do what what you like, and love who you want, even if some people dont like it. After all, this is your life, not theirs. You're not going to let people controle your life as they see fit. WHo are they to judge what is wrong, what is right, and tell you what you should do...

If you ask me, as long as it doesn't cause harmful to anyone, this is not a sin, and certainly not perverse.

You love a guy and he loves you back ? thats fine, whats wrong with that ?

I believe that both Leviticus and Romans says what is wrong with it.

[LouBerry]

I appreciate your openness but I have to say even the language you use is uncomforting to me. You say your friend "battled" with bisexual feelings. You are insinuating that homosexuality and bisexuality must be fought to overcome. You believe that gays should be able to get married and they are not bad people but I'm pretty sure you believe they are sinners and that they are not born gay. .


All that's true. I guess that makes me sound like a bad guy and all, but it's what I was taught. And, sometimes I don't believe it all. But, it comes down to, I believe the Bible. Do I follow it all? Hell no. That's why I don't two shits if you're gay or have a drinking problem or have sex before marriage. We aren't perfect. Also, my mother believed all those things, and taught them to me. She died when I was young, and I've just never questioned the things she taught me. You seem to be forgetting, I am just as entitled to have my opinion as you. I do not in any way want to be rude, but, that is my opinion.

[Avenida105]

Christian struggling with bisexuality, automatically damned, no hope, no peace, or is it a phase?:

This is very long but serious, if you read, please respond fairly and justly.
This is me again... I know that as a Christian homosexuality, bisexuality, and deviant sexuality is perverse, but one problem, yeah I'm dealing with it. Now problem is that I have been dealing with this for years, yes I am young, 18 in fact but (sniffs) I can't come to terms with this! I find this stuff wrong I do but I have it and do not wish to change who I am or how I am, and other Christians just say I might as well be atheist, that I'm damned, can have no peace. I told my mother, an ordained Christian minister she said she won't agree with my choice but will love me, she's my mother she says. But I literally cry on this. Because I love God and my family too much to leave either and I know that anything LGBT is very much so wrong and frowned upon, and I do not align with the LGBT. But to me, who is so Christian that the person can question my faith and degrade me?

I love God, I love my family but I know I've had these feelings like crazy, and no I am not abandoning God. But is it so terrible for me to be bisexual? Am I now so foul that even a Christian may spit at my feet? Am I so foul that God shan't love me, that I can no longer be called, "Christian?"

Ugh when will it end, I feel so confused on the whole issue, I cry and feel near suicidal at times.
I am praying... but God Bless. He's all I have right now.

I know it is very confusing, I come from a very I would say bible family, rather than Christian, because we usually read what the bible says, not what the minister thinks. For instance many disagree but at least in our family we do believe the earth is millions of years old, and that there is other life forms in the universe. But when it comes to sexuality I guess since it's almost like a fear people never want to learn about it on their own, all I know is that there are only two parts in the bible were you could say is the one with the how we stretched out God's truth and the man became a woman and so on, but it could literally mean many things, it could be even bias to the period of time in which men were dominant in the household and people were concerned that men could be "subduing" to women. It could also mean that Men were not protecting their families and that God had sent men as a protector. See that portion could be stretched out.

Then people in the Christian churches, well in all of the abrahamic religions put homosexuality, bisexuality etc. as a higher sin, when in reality the bible says that all sin (In case this was an actual sin) are all equal in his eyes, therefore you could even argue and win by saying that homosexuality is indeed as bad as a lie. Yet people lie every single day, but they don't lose their salvation. If people don't feel bad about lying than we shouldn't feel bad about our sexuality.

I am bisexual and well that's all I have found out so far, I kinda helps me, and I hope it can somehow help you.

[Castle of Glass]

This is from a christian also.

So yea, I maybe bi, not sure, yea i know all of the bad things about it, going to hell, yadadada. What ever. Don't take me the wrong way though. Does the holy father, love everyone? be it straight, bi, gay, what ever? yes he does, even if you sin, Romans 5:8. Also, Jesus, son of the Holy Father, will help you cleanse your sins, but you do not need to let go of your sexuality. my local christian pastor is gay himself. no one cares. he is a strong believer.

You said I love God, I love my family but I know I've had these feelings like crazy, and no I am not abandoning God. But is it so terrible for me to be bisexual? Am I now so foul that even a Christian may spit at my feet? Am I so foul that God shan't love me, that I can no longer be called, "Christian?"

It is not terrible to be bi, and you are not abandoning god. No christian(unless they are of old, will spit at your feet). God loves all his children. And yes shall still be called a christian.


If you ever want to talk with a christian who is in a similar spot as you, just PM me. :)

God Bless Thee.

[ChrisA1998]

I believe that both Leviticus and Romans says what is wrong with it.

are you talking about people who lived 2 000 years ago and said the earth was flat and would burn you if you thought otherwise ?

OK... so relevant today ...

[Lovelife090994]

are you talking about people who lived 2 000 years ago and said the earth was flat and would burn you if you thought otherwise ?

OK... so relevant today ...

Well that's at all harsh and vindictive.

[Lovelife090994]

This is from a christian also.

So yea, I maybe bi, not sure, yea i know all of the bad things about it, going to hell, yadadada. What ever. Don't take me the wrong way though. Does the holy father, love everyone? be it straight, bi, gay, what ever? yes he does, even if you sin, Romans 5:8. Also, Jesus, son of the Holy Father, will help you cleanse your sins, but you do not need to let go of your sexuality. my local christian pastor is gay himself. no one cares. he is a strong believer.

You said

It is not terrible to be bi, and you are not abandoning god. No christian(unless they are of old, will spit at your feet). God loves all his children. And yes shall still be called a christian.




If you ever want to talk with a christian who is in a similar spot as you, just PM me. :)

God Bless Thee.

Thank you, I might, and I appreciate your words.

[Lovelife090994]

I know it is very confusing, I come from a very I would say bible family, rather than Christian, because we usually read what the bible says, not what the minister thinks. For instance many disagree but at least in our family we do believe the earth is millions of years old, and that there is other life forms in the universe. But when it comes to sexuality I guess since it's almost like a fear people never want to learn about it on their own, all I know is that there are only two parts in the bible were you could say is the one with the how we stretched out God's truth and the man became a woman and so on, but it could literally mean many things, it could be even bias to the period of time in which men were dominant in the household and people were concerned that men could be "subduing" to women. It could also mean that Men were not protecting their families and that God had sent men as a protector. See that portion could be stretched out.

Then people in the Christian churches, well in all of the abrahamic religions put homosexuality, bisexuality etc. as a higher sin, when in reality the bible says that all sin (In case this was an actual sin) are all equal in his eyes, therefore you could even argue and win by saying that homosexuality is indeed as bad as a lie. Yet people lie every single day, but they don't lose their salvation. If people don't feel bad about lying than we shouldn't feel bad about our sexuality.

I am bisexual and well that's all I have found out so far, I kinda helps me, and I hope it can somehow help you.



Thank you, this helped more than you may think, I thank thee.

[Lovelife090994]

All that's true. I guess that makes me sound like a bad guy and all, but it's what I was taught. And, sometimes I don't believe it all. But, it comes down to, I believe the Bible. Do I follow it all? Hell no. That's why I don't two shits if you're gay or have a drinking problem or have sex before marriage. We aren't perfect. Also, my mother believed all those things, and taught them to me. She died when I was young, and I've just never questioned the things she taught me. You seem to be forgetting, I am just as entitled to have my opinion as you. I do not in any way want to be rude, but, that is my opinion.

I value your sincerity and honesty, bless you LouBerry!

[steellord321]

Well that's at all harsh and vindictive.

Not as harsh as burning people alive. I don't know why u expect sympathy here when even looking at the thread title. Im sure we all appreciate it.

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and she battled with bisexual feelings for years.

Sexuality isn't a battle. No matter how much you fight it, it won't go away. Because it IS you.

. If you look, I've recently been posting a lot of stuff in defense of my gay friends on here.

There goes that arguement again. "Oh, I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends!" Save it.

[Lovelife090994]

Sexuality isn't a battle. No matter how much you fight it, it won't go away. Because it IS you.



There goes that arguement again. "Oh, I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends!" Save it.

A bit harsh, I notice only angry LGBTs use homophobic, usually as an insult but certainly that is not the case.

[Lovelife090994]

Not as harsh as burning people alive. I don't know why u expect sympathy here when even looking at the thread title. Im sure we all appreciate it.

No need to get into a quarrel with me, and no one is burning people alive, that I know of. Yes it is a brutal punishment in some societies and yes people burn in Hell, I am condemning someone to it... no.

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A bit harsh, I notice only angry LGBTs use homophobic, usually as an insult but certainly that is not the case.

It is the case. If you're trying to say how much you accept LGBT people by saying you have gay friends, that doesn't mean anything.

[Lovelife090994]

It is the case. If you're trying to say how much you accept LGBT people by saying you have gay friends, that doesn't mean anything.

No, and yes. Because obviously it doesn't bother her if they are her friend right? You can't be a person's friend if you do not tolerate them. You can love and tolerate a person and not accept their ways. Yes you accept the facts like, "he is gay," or, "she is strongly Christian," you may not like it but you tolerate it and accept it as fact.

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No, and yes. Because obviously it doesn't bother her if they are her friend right? You can't be a person's friend if you do not tolerate them. You can love and tolerate a person and not accept their ways. Yes you accept the facts like, "he is gay," or, "she is strongly Christian," you may not like it but you tolerate it and accept it as fact.

I know from personal experience not everyone will accept you, which is obvious.

But the point is that it's easier for a straight person to say they accept someone not being straight, than to actually accept it. The fake people exist, and the soonee you realize that, the better.

There is a chance she is geniune, but it's better safe then sorry.

[Nellerin]

Christian struggling with bisexuality, automatically damned, no hope, no peace, or is it a phase?:

This is very long but serious, if you read, please respond fairly and justly.
This is me again... I know that as a Christian homosexuality, bisexuality, and deviant sexuality is perverse, but one problem, yeah I'm dealing with it. Now problem is that I have been dealing with this for years, yes I am young, 18 in fact but (sniffs) I can't come to terms with this! I find this stuff wrong I do but I have it and do not wish to change who I am or how I am, and other Christians just say I might as well be atheist, that I'm damned, can have no peace. I told my mother, an ordained Christian minister she said she won't agree with my choice but will love me, she's my mother she says. But I literally cry on this. Because I love God and my family too much to leave either and I know that anything LGBT is very much so wrong and frowned upon, and I do not align with the LGBT. But to me, who is so Christian that the person can question my faith and degrade me?

I love God, I love my family but I know I've had these feelings like crazy, and no I am not abandoning God. But is it so terrible for me to be bisexual? Am I now so foul that even a Christian may spit at my feet? Am I so foul that God shan't love me, that I can no longer be called, "Christian?"

Ugh when will it end, I feel so confused on the whole issue, I cry and feel near suicidal at times.
I am praying... but God Bless. He's all I have right now.

Jesus/God never said anything about homosexuality or bisexuals. The Bible mentions it but not because Jesus or God said anything about it.

You're fine, any Church teaching that it is a sin is wrong in my opinion. You are fine.

[LouBerry]

Sexuality isn't a battle. No matter how much you fight it, it won't go away. Because it IS you.



There goes that arguement again. "Oh, I'm not homophobic, I have gay friends!" Save it.

Well, like I said, that's my opinion, and I'm allowed to have it.

And, okay, so if I hate gays think they should not get married, I'm a homophob and bad, right?

If I like gays and think that they have the right to get married, but don't necessarily believe in their lifestyle, I'm what? Still a mean homophob?

[Lovelife090994]

Well, like I said, that's my opinion, and I'm allowed to have it.

And, okay, so if I hate gays think they should not get married, I'm a homophob and bad, right?

If I like gays and think that they have the right to get married, but don't necessarily believe in their lifestyle, I'm what? Still a mean homophob?

I am with you on that very subject LouAnne, it's as if the LGBT issue is black and white, "with us or against, no gray." A bit primitive, plus homophobe means phobia of homosexuals, technically anything the same by "homo's" meaning. This issue stirs many emotions. I too have gay friends who like me and they know I'm conservative and know that I do not really feel too keen on gay marriage, but do they care? No, they accept me and are okay with that.

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I too have gay friends who like me and they know I'm conservative and know that I do not really feel too keen on gay marriage, but do they care? No, they accept me and are okay with that.

Sounds like they are more accepting then you are. (Of course for all they know they could be hateful against you because you're conservative, but I'm speaking off of what I read.) So you say that they can look past the fact that you don't entirely believe in or agree with their life style? Mhm, makes sense.



But anyway, back to the op. All this self-hate you're putting on yourself because of your faith isn't good. I don't know if you noticed, but there is a 99% chance you aren't straight, and the sooner you accept that the better.

So why stick to a faith that makes you hate yourself? You don't even have to change your religion. But I think you should be more accepting of LGBT people and you wouldn't feel the way you do now.

[LouBerry]

I am with you on that very subject LouAnne, it's as if the LGBT issue is black and white, "with us or against, no gray." A bit primitive, plus homophobe means phobia of homosexuals, technically anything the same by "homo's" meaning. This issue stirs many emotions. I too have gay friends who like me and they know I'm conservative and know that I do not really feel too keen on gay marriage, but do they care? No, they accept me and are okay with that.

I know! It's like how everyone says Christians are all hypocrites and judgmental and crap, when the people saying it are way more cruel and judgmental than any Christian I know. Some of the LGBT supporters bash straight people so hard, they can't see that they are becoming the exact thing they are fighting against.

[Lovelife090994]

Sounds like they are more accepting then you are. (Of course for all they know they could be hateful against you because you're conservative, but I'm speaking off of what I read.) So you say that they can look past the fact that you don't entirely believe in or agree with their life style? Mhm, makes sense.



But anyway, back to the op. All this self-hate you're putting on yourself because of your faith isn't good. I don't know if you noticed, but there is a 99% chance you aren't straight, and the sooner you accept that the better.

So why stick to a faith that makes you hate yourself? You don't even have to change your religion. But I think you should be more accepting of LGBT people and you wouldn't feel the way you do now.


One, and let me make this extremely plain, I for one and accepting but you have no right to combat people who post their opinion on this thread.
Two, and this shall be blatantly honest, sir, I do not hate myself, I am happy in fact now.
Three, why act as if faith is something to cast aside. God is real, God is love, God is in my heart, I refuse to abandon him and stay in inquity. And if you are LGBT why the anger and hate? Why on the defense? Where's your open-mind and tolerance? Haven't we all right to our say and opinion? Oops guess not if it involves faith and sexuality, hmm?

[Lovelife090994]

I know! It's like how everyone says Christians are all hypocrites and judgmental and crap, when the people saying it are way more cruel and judgmental than any Christian I know. Some of the LGBT supporters bash straight people so hard, they can't see that they are becoming the exact thing they are fighting against.

And this is why I support you! We share the same wisdom which is lacking in our generation, one thing is clear, Jesus is definitely on his way back. I have seeked prayer and help, my confusion is fading... I have always wanted the right girl and I feel as if she is just around the corner. Thanks for your wisdom and valor in your words, I thank you, God Bless You LouBerry!

[crepesuzette]

I realize the confusing hormone stage exists for many but at 18? Puberty is over. I dunno about u but The reason he's posting is he cant deny it any more. He's not str8 and thats not going to change.

well i'm only 17.

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Yes, because suicidal thoughts over your sexuality isn't self-hate? I'm not entirely sure you read over what you originally posted, but you basically said that you wish you could change yourself because your religion isn't the most welcoming of your sexuality. Or am I wrong?

And you say I'm being defensive? Well sure, I can respect the fact that you have a completely different opinion then mine. But that doesn't mean I can't say how I feel about it. Don't complain about a comment you receive on a thread you posted.

[Lovelife090994]

Yes, because suicidal thoughts over your sexuality isn't self-hate? I'm not entirely sure you read over what you originally posted, but you basically said that you wish you could change yourself because your religion isn't the most welcoming of your sexuality. Or am I wrong?

And you say I'm being defensive? Well sure, I can respect the fact that you have a completely different opinion then mine. But that doesn't mean I can't say how I feel about it. Don't complain about a comment you receive on a thread you posted.

Wow, insulting me by throwing at me what I wrote? Fair played, you'd win many debates and arguments but this one I do not wish to entertain. True, Christianity is not always accepting yet the world is not accepting of it, we Christians always lower ourselves and rearrange our beliefs to make others happy, sometimes good, sometimes bad. Self-hate? Yeah I didn't specify all that makes me feel suicidal sometimes, if you only knew. Besides just because one feels suicidal or as I do, alone, does not mean we hate ourselves. Now true, there is much about myself I wish was different but I tell others and my mom and get, "someone doesn't have it so lucky, do not complain, God made you as he sees fit." So last time and as the French say when their words have been said and loose ends tied for now and ever until I feel like we can have a civil chat Shyy Gui so Adieu! And as it means, Take this to God, not me.

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Wow, insulting me by throwing at me what I wrote? Fair played, you'd win many debates and arguments but this one I do not wish to entertain. True, Christianity is not always accepting yet the world is not accepting of it, we Christians always lower ourselves and rearrange our beliefs to make others happy, sometimes good, sometimes bad. Self-hate? Yeah I didn't specify all that makes me feel suicidal sometimes, if you only knew. Besides just because one feels suicidal or as I do, alone, does not mean we hate ourselves. Now true, there is much about myself I wish was different but I tell others and my mom and get, "someone doesn't have it so lucky, do not complain, God made you as he sees fit." So last time and as the French say when their words have been said and loose ends tied for now and ever until I feel like we can have a civil chat Shyy Gui so Adieu! And as it means, Take this to God, not eme.

Why are you completely changing the subject? I have two points right now.

First of all, the original post on this thread said that your sexuality clashed with your religion. So why are you making an arguement against me that has nothing to do with that original post? Or have you completely forgot about tha and just want to make me out as the Devil?

Second, and most important, I don't think your getting the right idea. This is not supposed to be arguement over religion, but helping with your confusion that you suddenly lost. There were people who have tried to help you on this thread, but I don't really think you took their opinion into consideration. Just acted like you did.

If you keep rejecting opinions, you aren't going to get anywhere in life. You may think I'm some raging asshole and an internet troll, but if cannot even hold up a conversation with me, how will you ever deal with the Christian people who DON'T accept you. Good luck with that.

[Lovelife090994]

Why are you completely changing the subject? I have two points right now.

First of all, the original post on this thread said that your sexuality clashed with your religion. So why are you making an arguement against me that has nothing to do with that original post? Or have you completely forgot about tha and just want to make me out as the Devil?

Second, and most important, I don't think your getting the right idea. This is not supposed to be arguement over religion, but helping with your confusion that you suddenly lost. There were people who have tried to help you on this thread, but I don't really think you took their opinion into consideration. Just acted like you did.

If you keep rejecting opinions, you aren't going to get anywhere in life. You may think I'm some raging asshole and an internet troll, but if cannot even hold up a conversation with me, how will you ever deal with the Christian people who DON'T accept you. Good luck with that.

I have taken people's options into consideration but the minute I saw berading on the thread and post I replied back to defend those who made a good point. By the way I have talked to many Christians just today this Easter and do not wish to argue with you, my confusion is wavering now that I am accepting. Troll or argumentive commentator neither crossed my mind. I understand your frustration but I am just trying to make a truce. I feel as if the subject of religion and sexuality angers you, if it does, sorry, but my thread did have a fair warning. So before you spout at me with belligerent words and me try and calm you down again I am bidding you a long Adieu and Fairwell because this Easter, yeah I don't feel like debating.

[raptor13]

I'm sorry shy if you've had bad experiences with Christians who didn't understand that Jesus loves and blesses all, but please understand that if they acted out of spite that is in fact not anywheres near representative of what Christianity is supposed to be. God is real, God is love and God, through the forgiveness o our sins let on by the sacrifice of His Son, is the only way to eternal happiness. Not trying to derail I simply wanted to point out that Jesus said to love everyone, and that real conservative Christians, even if they stumble now and again, are not evil and unaccepting.

Lovelife, I'm exceptionally glad to see that you are apparently at least a little better and on the right track. Always keep the faith an know thy you are not alone, I am working on a similar problem to your first post myself and I know it's hard and confusing at times, and sometimes you just lose hope and break down (at least I know I have). Once again I'm glad to see you've stuck to your faith, as that is the only thing that could truly help you. I'll reiterate, never hesitate to send me a message sometime if you need anything. Ive been through a lot and know that a little help can go a long way.

Happy Easter!

[ChrisA1998]

Well that's at all harsh and vindictive.

this is not harsh at all, I just say things frankly and directly.

but once again my main point is : if it doesn't cause harm to anyone, why would it be a sin ?

[Lovelife090994]

this is not harsh at all, I just say things frankly and directly.

but once again my main point is : if it doesn't cause harm to anyone, why would it be a sin ?

Didn't I answer that earlier?

[Lovelife090994]

I'm sorry shy if you've had bad experiences with Christians who didn't understand that Jesus loves and blesses all, but please understand that if they acted out of spite that is in fact not anywheres near representative of what Christianity is supposed to be. God is real, God is love and God, through the forgiveness o our sins let on by the sacrifice of His Son, is the only way to eternal happiness. Not trying to derail I simply wanted to point out that Jesus said to love everyone, and that real conservative Christians, even if they stumble now and again, are not evil and unaccepting.

Lovelife, I'm exceptionally glad to see that you are apparently at least a little better and on the right track. Always keep the faith an know thy you are not alone, I am working on a similar problem to your first post myself and I know it's hard and confusing at times, and sometimes you just lose hope and break down (at least I know I have). Once again I'm glad to see you've stuck to your faith, as that is the only thing that could truly help you. I'll reiterate, never hesitate to send me a message sometime if you need anything. Ive been through a lot and know that a little help can go a long way.

Happy Easter!

I will be sure to send a message to you, thanks! And my faith is important. I would do anything for God even if it meant abandoning my possible bisexuality. I am fine and fair and Shyy does seem to have a slight problem to Christians, best let him cool off correct?
I don't want to fight on the holiest day of the year that marks Jesus' rise.

Happy Easter Brother!

[double_dthatsme]

I will be sure to send a message to you, thanks! And my faith is important. I would do anything for God even if it meant abandoning my possible bisexuality. I am fine and fair and Shyy does seem to have a slight problem to Christians, best let him cool off correct?
I don't want to fight on the holiest day of the year that marks Jesus' rise.

Happy Easter Brother!

With all due respect why would you abandon your sexuality? Dont get me wrong I understand that you are devoted to God as you should be, but why would you abandon your bisexuality if that is the way God made you. He is the one who made you bi so why would you deny the way God made you? God loves all his children no matter what their sexuality is because that is the way he programmed us. I mean this in all respect and I am just trying to figure out where you're coming from. Thanks

[Lovelife090994]

With all due respect why would you abandon your sexuality? Dont get me wrong I understand that you are devoted to God as you should be, but why would you abandon your bisexuality if that is the way God made you. He is the one who made you bi so why would you deny the way God made you? God loves all his children no matter what their sexuality is because that is the way he programmed us. I mean this in all respect and I am just trying to figure out where you're coming from. Thanks

But you see, that's another of Satan's greatest lies that many especially the younger generation believes in, that if you are gay, bi, even straight, you are born that way by the order of God. I'm sorry but why would God have a person born a way that is an abomination to him? The Bible says that the sin of homosexuality since bisexuality and others weren't even terms during the Biblical Era are perverse and deep sins punishable by damnation regardless the faith. I cannot accept what goes against not only what I was taught but what is written in the Bible. I thank you, I do, and you're right, why abandon your sexuality, but for me, sorry it just runs against so much of what I believe in. Even my mother hates the idea of me being anything less than straight. And my MIA dad would really cast me aside and he's atheist! I just wish things weren't so complicated, but I notice that when I ignore my sexuality which has never been explored, I am fine, and there is no confusion. True I stay static in sexuality and want to one but I'd rather be asexual moreless than confused and conflicted.

[ChrisA1998]

I would do anything for God even if it meant abandoning my possible bisexuality.!

ok... so you prefer letting down things you love because of an hypothetic god who we are not sure it exists, and because its in a book that was written 2 000 years ago, a book about a story which we're not even sure its true, and even if its true, between how it was orally told until it was actually written, and between how it was translated to other languages, i guess a bunch of things must have been mistranslated and misinterprated...

so if you prefer turning to what an hypothetic god supposedly tell you to do, rather than accepting the real reality and do things you love, ... well ok thats your life.

but if you're so sure about your choice, why are you making this thread in the first place ?

[Lovelife090994]

ok... so you prefer letting down things you love because of an hypothetic god who we are not sure it exists, and because its in a book that was written 2 000 years ago, a book about a story which we're not even sure its true, and even if its true, between how it was orally told until it was actually written, and between how it was translated to other languages, i guess a bunch of things must have been mistranslated and misinterprated...

so if you prefer turning to what an hypothetic god supposedly tell you to do, rather than accepting the real reality and do things you love, ... well ok thats your life.

but if you're so sure about your choice, why are you making this thread in the first place ?

I made the thread days ago and why question my faith? I questioned not yours. God can be proven but man refuses to acknowledge the signs then and now. And true many things in the Bible were lost in translation, some things like my dilemma were not. Even the Torah speaks against it. Adieu!

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But you see, that's another of Satan's greatest lies that many especially the younger generation believes in, that if you are gay, bi, even straight, you are born that way by the order of God. I'm sorry but why would God have a person born a way that is an abomination to him? The Bible says that the sin of homosexuality since bisexuality and others weren't even terms during the Biblical Era are perverse and deep sins punishable by damnation regardless the faith. I cannot accept what goes against not only what I was taught but what is written in the Bible. I thank you, I do, and you're right, why abandon your sexuality, but for me, sorry it just runs against so much of what I believe in. Even my mother hates the idea of me being anything less than straight. And my MIA dad would really cast me aside and he's atheist! I just wish things weren't so complicated, but I notice that when I ignore my sexuality which has never been explored, I am fine, and there is no confusion. True I stay static in sexuality and want to one but I'd rather be asexual moreless than confused and conflicted.

You can try all you like to ignore your sexualitym but you can't deny it. It doesn't work like that. You can pray all you want, rrad the bible ALL YOU WANT, but you will not be straight. That's just how it is.

You're going to give up your whole life for something that has no real effect on your life. God won't give you another life. So you better make the best of this one.

[double_dthatsme]

But it also states in the Bible that all sins are equal. It does not matter if it is killing someone, lying, or being gay it is all the same in God's eyes. It also states that the lord sent his one and only son to die on the cross for our sins so we can be forgiven of them. I do not believe I am doing Satan's bidding by being a homosexual. I am living by whats in my jeart whether I want to accept it or not and I have a good relationship with God.

[Lovelife090994]

You can try all you like to ignore your sexualitym but you can't deny it. It doesn't work like that. You can pray all you want, rrad the bible ALL YOU WANT, but you will not be straight. That's just how it is.

You're going to give up your whole life for something that has no real effect on your life. God won't give you another life. So you better make the best of this one.

I see what you mean or can't changing who you are, and thanks, but true, you only live once...

[Lovelife090994]

But it also states in the Bible that all sins are equal. It does not matter if it is killing someone, lying, or being gay it is all the same in God's eyes. It also states that the lord sent his one and only son to die on the cross for our sins so we can be forgiven of them. I do not believe I am doing Satan's bidding by being a homosexual. I am living by whats in my jeart whether I want to accept it or not and I have a good relationship with God.

I suppose that can be right. But I'm almost certain that living in sin can bring guilt...

[Captain Crush]

I'm not religous and i'm not going to pretend like I am. But, you can't help that you are bisexual nor should you try to change the way you are. You can be attracted to other men without being an activist for equal rights or abandoning your faith. Guilt is a part of being human and perfection is impossible. So, living your life should never be dominated by one belief but rather a culmination of things that make you yourself. The way I see it is that you can either maintain your sanctity or your sanity/true happiness based on how you chose to live a faithful yet bisexual lifestyle.

I respect your faith and opinion and again it is your natural right to live as you please :)

[ChrisA1998]

I made the thread days ago and why question my faith? I questioned not yours. God can be proven but man refuses to acknowledge the signs then and now. And true many things in the Bible were lost in translation, some things like my dilemma were not. Even the Torah speaks against it. Adieu!

I would be curious to hear your so called evidence that god exists, but I guess that will be for another topic ...

You're so funny...
apparently you have already made your decision that you favor what the bible says rather than doing things you like.

So I ask again : since you're so sure about what you favor the most, whats the point of this thread ?

[Lovelife090994]

I would be curious to hear your so called evidence that god exists, but I guess that will be for another topic ...

You're so funny...
apparently you have already made your decision that you favor what the bible says rather than doing things you like.

So I ask again : since you're so sure about what you favor the most, whats the point of this thread ?

The point was and I'm breaking my Adieu here, is that, I was and still am a bit confused and hurt on the issue of my sexuality and I wanted to hear what others had to say. I've received numorous helpful comments and I've contacted those people privately. But nevertheless I wanted a Christian perspective or at least someone who is not an antitheist like yourself. Be civil, because I find it amusing that those like you who think people like me are Biblical Nutcases want to go to logic and earn respect yet you denouce the faith's of others as lunacy and act as if the theists of the world have some issue. Now does that answer it? If not, contact me, do not junk up the thread. God Bless you and go in peace brother. Adieu, Adieu to you!

[Lovelife090994]

I'm not religous and i'm not going to pretend like I am. But, you can't help that you are bisexual nor should you try to change the way you are. You can be attracted to other men without being an activist for equal rights or abandoning your faith. Guilt is a part of being human and perfection is impossible. So, living your life should never be dominated by one belief but rather a culmination of things that make you yourself. The way I see it is that you can either maintain your sanctity or your sanity/true happiness based on how you chose to live a faithful yet bisexual lifestyle.

I respect your faith and opinion and again it is your natural right to live as you please :)

Thank you!